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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on April 20, 2010, 08:22:40 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:21 PM
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Arizona lawmakers pass bill to CRIMINALIZE illegal immigration
Arizona lawmakers on Monday approved one of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the United States.
The immigration bill now heads to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who has five days to sign it, veto it or do nothing and allow it to become law. Brewer said she'd be reviewing the legislation over the next several days, indicating that she will likely take the maximum time allowed to her before taking action.
Senate Bill 1070 would, among other things, make it a state crime to be in the country illegally and require local police to enforce federal-immigration laws. If the governor signs it, Arizona would be the first state to criminalize illegal immigrants...
Nearly 30 people gathered for a candlelight vigil in front of Brewer's Glendale home Sunday night in a bid to convince her to veto the bill. Dozens more carried signs opposing the bill in front of her office Monday morning. The protesters said the bill could increase racial profiling in Arizona...
U.S. Sen. John McCain threw his support toward the measure on Monday.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/arti...
Jaw dropping.
Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:22 PM
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1. Arapaio's wet dream.
**** him and his ilk. I hope the progressives can sweep out the AZ Legislature this year... any chance (in hell or otherwise?)
Brewer's gotta go too.
Hawkeye-X
You will be a fat,lazy veterinarian before that happens.
BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:25 PM
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3. Surely there will be court challenge....
Yeah...a court should make illegals non criminals.
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:36 PM
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5. This is just sad.
No,you being a teacher is what is sad Anne.
virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:43 PM
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6. There are 49 other states. They will be wecomed there.
Only in the bankrupt ones.
Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-19-10 09:47 PM
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8. This could backfire. If illegal immigration is criminalized, and
a person/company has hired them, they could be in just as much trouble.
Good.
harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr-20-10 08:51 PM
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42. Arizona already passed that law a couple years ago.
Quite a few Hispanics left the state at the time because they couldn't find work.
In other words it worked and saved taxpayers probably millions.
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr-20-10 12:40 AM
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12. What part of "illegal" is difficult to understand? n/t
It seems all of it.
KonaKane (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr-20-10 12:56 AM
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13. Lots of things are illegal.
Like, say for instance, starting an entire war based on lies and placing our troops wrongly in harms way (see Treason). But I haven't seen a state outlaw Bush yet.
I guess it depends on your priorities.
You can`t be a mole...just too damn stupid.
anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr-20-10 07:23 PM
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33. It won't survive a court challenge
It's unconstitutional on a number of grounds. then again the main purpose is to whip up political support among conservatives, who will duly deride the courts as being stuffed with 'activist judges' for sticking to the constitution.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
The idiocy...
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How is it unconstitutional? Name of those "numerous" grounds?
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You will be a fat,lazy veterinarian before that happens.
A cross-eyed, terminally fat, partially deaf, simple-minded veterinarian who cannot do math or understand chemistry.
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Nearly 30 people gathered for a candlelight vigil in front of Brewer's Glendale home
Nearly 30? Was the hoard too great to get an accurate count? The counter had to take off his shoes and got to 20 and then ran out of digits.
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A cross-eyed, terminally fat, partially deaf, simple-minded veterinarian who cannot do math or understand chemistry.
...and thinks a medical degree of any kind is just something you do while scamming SSI for your day to day living.
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr-20-10 12:56 AM
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13. Lots of things are illegal.
Like, say for instance, starting an entire war based on lies and placing our troops wrongly in harms way (see Treason). But I haven't seen a state outlaw Bush yet.
I guess it depends on your priorities.
Man, they just can't get over Bush can they? Every damn thing that has happened or ever will happen is his fault. :mental:
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How is it unconstitutional? Name of those "numerous" grounds?
IIRC: A Texas law has been zotted on numerous incarnations because it was said to infringe on federal purview to set immigration policy.
I'm not saying I like it, I'm just saying that is what was rendered.
Kinda ironic though that courts can seem to find things that infringe of the fed's right but never any infringements of what has been relegated to persons or the several states.
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Good point, MSB.
Hawkeye X has the permanent mindset of an 8 year old girl. Anybody who's had a daughter recognizes this phase...little girl loves animals to pieces, and so announces that she wants to be a vet when she grows up. Eventually the little girl grows up and makes her way in the world. Not Hawkeye X.
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IIRC: A Texas law has been zotted on numerous incarnations because it was said to infringe on federal purview to set immigration policy.
I didn't say if it was found to be unconstitutional by some judge, I mean actually unconstitutional.
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Good point, MSB.
Hawkeye X has the permanent mindset of an 8 year old girl. Anybody who's had a daughter recognizes this phase...little girl loves animals to pieces, and so announces that she wants to be a vet when she grows up. Eventually the little girl grows up and makes her way in the world. Not Hawkeye X.
I wasn't content with wanting to be a vet. I wanted to be a zoo veterinarian :cheersmate:
Back on topic, I've heard discussion about challenging the law based on the fact that it is discriminatory to Hispanics. Really, what it does as far as I understand, is give law enforcement the ability to request evidence of legal status if they have reason to believe that somebody is an illegal alien, ie, they are caught driving without a driver's license.
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U.S. Sen. John McCain threw his support toward the measure on Monday.
You can tell we have an election coming up, screw you McCain.... :banghead:
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I wasn't content with wanting to be a vet. I wanted to be a zoo veterinarian :cheersmate:
Let me guess, specializing in baby animals.
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Great. I know where they are all going.......
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Great. I know where they are all going.......
They already own the state of Kalifornia anyway....sorry but it's true.
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Unfortunely, yes. I cant wait to get out.
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They already own the state of Kalifornia anyway....sorry but it's true.
35% of all USA welfare cases are in Kalifornia. Could be some kind of correlation.
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Man, they just can't get over Bush can they? Every damn thing that has happened or ever will happen is his fault. :mental:
They also keep using words like "Treason" they do not understand the meaning of.