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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: The Village Idiot on February 23, 2010, 12:57:35 PM
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Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?
"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??
They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!
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Why is this in the lounge? :-)
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because flg is a ****ing retard?
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Why is this in the lounge? :-)
because nobody reads General Duscussion
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Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.
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Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.
It could be, after its RINO's get neutered
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Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.
I don't believe there is any SINGLE solution to the goat**** that two of the three branches of gubmint have become.
That said, the GOP is probably one of many potential solutions to an incredibly vexing and annoying problem -- the problem of extreme liberalism and the nanny state that it fosters.
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I don't believe there is any SINGLE solution to the goat**** that two of the three branches of gubmint have become.
That said, the GOP is probably one of many potential solutions to an incredibly vexing and annoying problem -- the problem of extreme liberalism and the nanny state that it fosters.
That 3rd branch of government can be a goat**** also. They did give new powers to states for taking private property.
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It could be, if RINO's ever get neutered
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but again, what's their motivation to do so? Outside of Honor, there is none.
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That 3rd branch of government can be a goat**** also. They did give new powers to states for taking private property.
agreed, but for the most part, the judicial branch has stayed out of the fray that characterizes Lord Zero's apoplectic, maniacal stupidity.
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Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?
"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??
They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!
Instead of ensuring permanent Democrat Party rule by advocating a third party movement, Rush is opting for the Reagan strategery of taking back the GOP from the RINOs. When he says, "The Republican Party is not the problem..." he usually follows it up pretty quickly by saying something akin to "the RINOs are."
If you want less RINOs then get out the vote in the primaries for the more conservative candidate and get as many people to go with you as possible.
Also, and this is very important, always vote in local elections. Here in Madison, about 12% of the population controls who is on the school boards and central committee. If there isn't enough information on the individual candidates, it may be helpful to see who your local teacher's union and other liberal organizations are endorsing and vote for the other guy. Not ideal but better than nothing.
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Instead of ensuring permanent Democrat Party rule by advocating a third party movement, Rush is opting for the Reagan strategery of taking back the GOP from the RINOs. When he says, "The Republican Party is not the problem..." he usually follows it up pretty quickly by saying something akin to "the RINOs are."
If you want less RINOs then get out the vote in the primaries for the more conservative candidate and get as many people to go with you as possible.
Also, and this is very important, always vote in local elections. Here in Madison, about 12% of the population controls who is on the school boards and central committee. If there isn't enough information on the individual candidates, it may be helpful to see who your local teacher's union and other liberal organizations are endorsing and vote for the other guy. Not ideal but better than nothing.
Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals. His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.
The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people. Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light". Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.
Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t. Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is. The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this :waisis: and then move on.
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Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals. His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.
The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people. Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light". Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.
Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t. Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is. The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this :waisis: and then move on.
I'm sure a new third party will work as well as the rest. We should just bring back Perot.
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I'm sure a new third party will work as well as the rest. We should just bring back Perot.
Who said anything about a 3rd party? If it would work, sure why not. How about we just actually start with some damn accountability that actually means something. How? Start locally and take our states back from the Federal Government and then make them squeal like the pigs they are. It wouldnt be so hard if people would actually put up the effort instead of simply running mouths. The whole Tea Party thing being hijacked by the republican party is a joke and an insult. Now people who worshiped the whole Scott Brown thing are upset... well I wonder why...
Its about more than a pompom show and it certainly is about more than voting for the best of the worst in showing. Our political system is a frieking circus show.
Vote for Perot if you wish, worship the republican gods if you wish, either way your going to end up with a clown in the end juggling your balls while you cry about the pain like we now have with Obama. If the past 100 years of this teeter totter joke is not enough to prove it what makes anyone in their right mind believe that a party will do anything to improve the next 100 years? Yet the people who talk about 3rd parties are called crazy? Whatever... Last time I heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. At least those who want a 3rd party and are willing to consider the option wouldnt fall into the classification of insanity. Rush... now that man I call insane or the GOP coolaid spout, whichever you choose.
If more people actually got involved in a meaningful way perhaps things would change.
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Hi,
From what I heard today some caller asked him about some remarks Glenn Beck made and the fact Romney endorsed McCain. Rush stated his policy is not to discuss others in his business, saying that while he may not always agree with them, they are not the problem, the far wacko left is the problem.
He mentioned he did not agree with Romney endorsing McCain, that is part of the problem, but there is not point in starting a civil war among republicans, they are not the real problem.
Rush is like Palin, he is practical enough to know they have to get the Republican leadership to get their head out of their collective asses and get and stay conservative movement. A third party will just ensure the libs win even bigger.
regards,
5412
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Hi,
From what I heard today some caller asked him about some remarks Glenn Beck made and the fact Romney endorsed McCain. Rush stated his policy is not to discuss others in his business, saying that while he may not always agree with them, they are not the problem, the far wacko left is the problem.
He mentioned he did not agree with Romney endorsing McCain, that is part of the problem, but there is not point in starting a civil war among republicans, they are not the real problem.
Rush is like Palin, he is practical enough to know they have to get the Republican leadership to get their head out of their collective asses and get and stay conservative movement. A third party will just ensure the libs win even bigger.
regards,
5412
5412 you like me are a Marine. You understand the concept of combat effectiveness. That is what I am looking for. Show me a leader and I will vote for him if he is a leader that is not a lib in sheeps clothing. I have no problem with that.
So my whole point to my rant, the problem is within the republican party just as much as the democrat party. There is no denying it. Show me the leader that stands for right and true conservative values. There is not one. Its not about starting a civil war. The republicans have been proven ineffective repeatedly just the same as the democrats. So in truth, the republican party is in a "revolution" if you will, perhaps emerging from its "civil war" after the fallout last year. No matter, the point is mute. Perception is everything and if the perception people choose colors the picture a rosy color rather than truth, perhaps we deserve what we are getting.
If there is not change we will one day find ourselves inside of another kind of civil war and no matter of sticking our heads in the sand will fix it. At this moment the republican party is "combat ineffective" and they will remain so until a leader does emerge that is a true leader. Until that time, its all partisan talk. Quite honestly show me a leader on any side that stands for what is right, Republican, Democrat or 3rd party and he gets my vote. There was once upon a time when the name Democrat did not mean Communist and Republican did not mean a sellout.
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Who said anything about a 3rd party? If it would work, sure why not. How about we just actually start with some damn accountability that actually means something. How? Start locally and take our states back from the Federal Government and then make them squeal like the pigs they are. It wouldnt be so hard if people would actually put up the effort instead of simply running mouths. The whole Tea Party thing being hijacked by the republican party is a joke and an insult. Now people who worshiped the whole Scott Brown thing are upset... well I wonder why...
Its about more than a pompom show and it certainly is about more than voting for the best of the worst in showing. Our political system is a frieking circus show.
Vote for Perot if you wish, worship the republican gods if you wish, either way your going to end up with a clown in the end juggling your balls while you cry about the pain like we now have with Obama. If the past 100 years of this teeter totter joke is not enough to prove it what makes anyone in their right mind believe that a party will do anything to improve the next 100 years? Yet the people who talk about 3rd parties are called crazy? Whatever... Last time I heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. At least those who want a 3rd party and are willing to consider the option wouldnt fall into the classification of insanity. Rush... now that man I call insane or the GOP coolaid spout, whichever you choose.
If more people actually got involved in a meaningful way perhaps things would change.
Yeah, the part about starting locally and also voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, I said that in my first post you responded to.
Whining about the Republican Party is not productive. Saying "I told you so" over and over and over again about Scott Brown or John McCain or Mitt Romney is not productive. Either work on taking back the GOP or start a third party or stay at home and sit on your hands because Scott Brown, et al. isn't conservative enough for you.
And if people don't think primaries or local elections are important then be the leader. Be the one people can come to for answers. And if it's choice between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley then you have to be leader enough to know the limitations of what you have to work with. For myself, faced with a Scott Brown vs. a Tammy Baldwin, I'm going to go with the Scott Brown.
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Nobody has been talking about a third party. Glenn Beck said third parties are stupid. BTW- Don't believe half the attacks on Beck.
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Nobody has been talking about a third party. Glenn Beck said third parties are stupid. BTW- Don't believe half the attacks on Beck.
Then what are we talking about? If the Republican Party is the the problem then what solution is being proposed? Or is it just a bitch session? If you have a choice between a Scott Brown and a Martha Coakley and a third party Ron Paul type, who are you going to vote for?
Are you going to just ceaselessly point out, "Scott Brown's a RINO" and vote for him anyway and then just come back a month later and say "I told you so" over and over? Or what? Or sit on your hands and hope Coakely wins and if Brown does win in spite of your best RINO'ing then you just play the "i told you so" card?
What? What is it all about?
What is your solution? Is it only about having bragging rights on the InterWebs?
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Then what are we talking about? If the Republican Party is the the problem then what solution is being proposed? Or is it just a bitch session? If you have a choice between a Scott Brown and a Martha Coakley and a third party Ron Paul type, who are you going to vote for?
The answer is to stop attacking the conservatives who want to make the GOP more conservative.
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The answer is to stop attacking the conservatives who want to make the GOP more conservative.
And who are you talking about here? Are you talking about the RINO's? Because they aren't going to stop. Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO? Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?
Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?
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5412 you like me are a Marine. You understand the concept of combat effectiveness. That is what I am looking for. Show me a leader and I will vote for him if he is a leader that is not a lib in sheeps clothing. I have no problem with that.
So my whole point to my rant, the problem is within the republican party just as much as the democrat party. There is no denying it. Show me the leader that stands for right and true conservative values. There is not one. Its not about starting a civil war. The republicans have been proven ineffective repeatedly just the same as the democrats. So in truth, the republican party is in a "revolution" if you will, perhaps emerging from its "civil war" after the fallout last year. No matter, the point is mute. Perception is everything and if the perception people choose colors the picture a rosy color rather than truth, perhaps we deserve what we are getting.
If there is not change we will one day find ourselves inside of another kind of civil war and no matter of sticking our heads in the sand will fix it. At this moment the republican party is "combat ineffective" and they will remain so until a leader does emerge that is a true leader. Until that time, its all partisan talk. Quite honestly show me a leader on any side that stands for what is right, Republican, Democrat or 3rd party and he gets my vote. There was once upon a time when the name Democrat did not mean Communist and Republican did not mean a sellout.
Hi,
I totally agree with you. I am a registered independent. Where the hell is Ronald Reagan when you need him?
I like Marco Rubio but it is too soon. He says the right things but time will tell. The libs have done a good job of killing off a lot of young shoots, Allen in VA, JC Watts and others. They have a habit of realizing who the stars are and doing everything they can to discredit them, much like they have done Palin.
There is an old saying, "When the student is ready to learn, the teacher shall appear!" The public is ripe for a young conservative to emerge and make the tough decisions to get the country where it needs to be. At the same time that person better be very skilled at sales and talking directly to the population like Reagan did because the media is going to do nothing but try to distort and destroy. My wife thinks it could be that Michelle lady from MN who seems to be biding her time at the moment and getting a lot of good conservative face time. I am not so sure we have seen that leader just yet.
regards,
5412
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And who are you talking about here? Are you talking about the RINO's? Because they aren't going to stop. Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO? Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?
Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?
This is what I love about republicans, they are about as brain dead as democrats when it comes to this. They simply cannot see the flaws within their own debate. If there is discussion within about change then there is "civil war" or b*tching or worse yet, someone is claiming to be desiring a 3rd party or even worse a Ronulian Revolution.
The point is very simple. Republicans are socialist from where I sit, ok its that simple. There needs to be a shakeup within the party, a major one. Democrats are damn Communists these days. I hate both your parties, that easy. No where have I seen anyone stand up for constitutional rights, period.
I tell people to get involved and then I am told to get involved. Damn if I was any more involved I would be running for president myself.
Your solution is simple. Dont take what they give you on the platter at the booth, you design the platter. Thats what I am doing.
The whole point to me posting on this thread to begin with as dealing with Rush and his partisan republican attitude that I hate. At least it was about that until it was degraded into 3rd party talk. And by the way, whoever says a 3rd party is a bad idea is approaching it from a COMPLETELY WRONG PERSPECTIVE. POLITICS ALWAYS STARTS LOCALLY AND SO SHOULD A 3RD PARTY, IT DOESNT START FROM THE HIGHEST POSITION IN THE COUNTRY! Sometimes I wonder who is the bigger idiot, Republicans or Libertarians.
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Hi,
I totally agree with you. I am a registered independent. Where the hell is Ronald Reagan when you need him?
I like Marco Rubio but it is too soon. He says the right things but time will tell. The libs have done a good job of killing off a lot of young shoots, Allen in VA, JC Watts and others. They have a habit of realizing who the stars are and doing everything they can to discredit them, much like they have done Palin.
There is an old saying, "When the student is ready to learn, the teacher shall appear!" The public is ripe for a young conservative to emerge and make the tough decisions to get the country where it needs to be. At the same time that person better be very skilled at sales and talking directly to the population like Reagan did because the media is going to do nothing but try to distort and destroy. My wife thinks it could be that Michelle lady from MN who seems to be biding her time at the moment and getting a lot of good conservative face time. I am not so sure we have seen that leader just yet.
regards,
5412
If I had my choice, it would be Michelle B. Everyone focuses so much on Palin, and while I like her she does not have the fire Michelle has. Notice something though, there are no men left to stand up and fight a mans fight. Interesting isnt it.
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And who are you talking about here? Are you talking about the RINO's? Because they aren't going to stop. Are you talking about the people who wouldn't heed the great wisdom that Scott Brown would turn out to be a RINO? Well, what good does that do when it comes down to a choice between Brown and Coakley?
Who is being attacked and who is doing the attacking?
Bill Bennett, Mark Levin and others have launched attacks on Glenn Beck for being too critical of the GOP
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Bill Bennett, Mark Levin and others have launched attacks on Glenn Beck for being too critical of the GOP
Okay then, and do any of these attacks have any merit? In other words, are they attacks or criticisms?
And even if they are unfair attacks, then what is the solution? Does it makes Rush and Levin not conservative? Then I would have to assume the world has gone insane. I don't think there is anybody more conservative than Levin. Certainly nobody more able to articulately express the core principles of conservatism. And Rush's conservative credentials are above reproach.
So, again, I can't really figure out what this whole thing is about.
Your unhappy with the Republican Party because of RINOs and unhappy with stalwart conservatives like Levin and Limbaugh because they "attack" Beck. So, then, where does that leave you?
What practical action can you take if you don't like Republicans, Democrats and are against a third party?
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Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?
"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??
They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!
The RINO's don't define the Party.
He's saying don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Careful FGL, there are people here who think the GOP is the solution.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight and putting our support behind a singe issue no chance of winning fringe party no one has heard of is the better idea?
Ask how well that's working for oh I dunno..the Libetarians or the Constitution party.
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Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals. His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.
The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people. Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light". Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.
Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t. Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is. The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this :waisis: and then move on.
And like a typical shallow thinking knee jerker...you're long on bashing and criticizing and very short on anwers or solutions.
Maybe that is your lot in life...start a new political party...call it the Knee Jerk Party...you'd have several members here that would sign up.
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The answer is to stop attacking the conservatives who want to make the GOP more conservative.
He's not and neither am I.
But all we've heard from you and the back slapper is throw them all out...Republicans suck etc.
If that's NOT what you're trying to say clarify your point.
Becuase all it sounds like you and the back slapper are blabbering about is a call for a third party.
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Becuase all it sounds like you and the back slapper are blabbering about is a call for a third party.
I'm not calling for a third party, I'm call for an organized conservative faction inside the GOP to take it over.
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I'm not calling for a third party, I'm call for an organized conservative faction inside the GOP to take it over.
Then maybe you should work on that. That is what Rush and Levin have been saying for some time.
And what happens when it is a choice between a Brown and a Coakley? Do you not vote for Brown even if he is the best you can get in that situation? Do you just go online when the RINO reveals his RINO tendencies and talk about how much you were attacked for saying a RINO was a RINO? Fine. But when do you stop?
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I would be happy if a RINO like Brown could get elected as senator in Illinois.
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I would be happy if a RINO like Brown could get elected as senator in Illinois.
If you can't elect RINO's after the biggest tax hike in state history, then you might never elect one
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If you can't elect RINO's after the biggest tax hike in state history, then you might never elect one
I have a feeling that tax hike will be after the elections this year. I just read that Illinois is in the red by over half of the budget, something like $13B out of a $26B budget.
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And like a typical shallow thinking knee jerker...you're long on bashing and criticizing and very short on anwers or solutions.
Maybe that is your lot in life...start a new political party...call it the Knee Jerk Party...you'd have several members here that would sign up.
You know what the problems with most republicans is, they forgot how to vote the man but now pull for the party line. What ever happened to the constitution? Oh I forgot they replaced it with Republicans and Democrats... how stupid of me to think otherwise.
And by the way, what the **** is up with everyone assuming anyone who is conservative bashing the republicans assuming that they want to start a damn third party?
Oh, one more thing, I am doing something and I am not short on solutions whatsoever. Perhaps you should come over to my part of the country and take a look at what we are doing. Never know, you might actually learn something.
The rest of your comment is nothing but dribble knee jerk pissed attitude because someone called the republican party.... bad. Oh , wow, how dare he.
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This is what I love about republicans, they are about as brain dead as democrats when it comes to this. They simply cannot see the flaws within their own debate. If there is discussion within about change then there is "civil war" or b*tching or worse yet, someone is claiming to be desiring a 3rd party or even worse a Ronulian Revolution.
The point is very simple. Republicans are socialist from where I sit, ok its that simple. There needs to be a shakeup within the party, a major one. Democrats are damn Communists these days. I hate both your parties, that easy. No where have I seen anyone stand up for constitutional rights, period.
I tell people to get involved and then I am told to get involved. Damn if I was any more involved I would be running for president myself.
Your solution is simple. Dont take what they give you on the platter at the booth, you design the platter. Thats what I am doing.
The whole point to me posting on this thread to begin with as dealing with Rush and his partisan republican attitude that I hate. At least it was about that until it was degraded into 3rd party talk. And by the way, whoever says a 3rd party is a bad idea is approaching it from a COMPLETELY WRONG PERSPECTIVE. POLITICS ALWAYS STARTS LOCALLY AND SO SHOULD A 3RD PARTY, IT DOESNT START FROM THE HIGHEST POSITION IN THE COUNTRY! Sometimes I wonder who is the bigger idiot, Republicans or Libertarians.
AMEN!!!
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The RINO's don't define the Party.
He's saying don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
They are starting to. And they will succeed if we do not stay vigilant and active to prevent it.
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You know what the problems with most republicans is, they forgot how to vote the man but now pull for the party line. What ever happened to the constitution? Oh I forgot they replaced it with Republicans and Democrats... how stupid of me to think otherwise.
And by the way, what the **** is up with everyone assuming anyone who is conservative bashing the republicans assuming that they want to start a damn third party?
Oh, one more thing, I am doing something and I am not short on solutions whatsoever. Perhaps you should come over to my part of the country and take a look at what we are doing. Never know, you might actually learn something.
The rest of your comment is nothing but dribble knee jerk pissed attitude because someone called the republican party.... bad. Oh , wow, how dare he.
It's a knee jerk reaction by those who can't stand it when folks won't drink the kool-aide offered by their side.
They are perpetually content to settle for the lessor of two evils. Oh,and they get pretty insulting in the process when their views are challanged. Instead of actually dicussing the points made by others, they opt to attack the person making it. Much like DUers do.
Ain't political forums fun?
I too am pretty fed up with both major political parties right now at the national level.
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It's a knee jerk reaction by those who can't stand it when folks won't drink the kool-aide offered by their side.
They are perpetually content to settle for the lessor of two evils. Oh,and they get pretty insulting in the process when their views are challanged. Instead of actually dicussing the points made by others, they opt to attack the person making it. Much like DUers do.
Ain't political forums fun?
I too am pretty fed up with both major political parties right now at the national level.
The way I see it, it is people getting fed up with knee-jerk complaining while not offering any solution. Probably nobody here is happy with Brown voting for cloture on something called a jobs bill. OTOH, who would you have voted for in Brown Vs. Coakly? Or any RINO vs. Far Left Progressive Dane-type? There are certain realities to deal with and if you are not happy with the current realities, what are you doing to change them other than calling people who recognize the current realities "Kool-aide drinkers?"
So, if you don't like the GOP, you don't like the Democrat Party and you say you aren't for a third party, then what are you suggesting?
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Duke,
What I am suggesting and have been for a while now it for conservatives to take back the GOP, to reform the party into something we can feel good about supporting. That means insisting on actual conservatives, not lib-lite like we have been seeing far too often from the GOP in recent years. If a person looks good from your own political POV then vote for them. If they don't live up to your expectations them fire him during the next election cycle.
Do I expect to agree 100% of the time with any politician, even one that I voted for? Of course not. Is Brown going to better in the long run than Coakley? Only time will tell. The good people of MA. need to keep an eye on his voting record and not his party affiliation.
I've met some southern democrats that are just as conservative as I am on many issues. I have also met some northern republican that are down right liberal.
I don't have the option of voting for Senators from other states, but I sure do get stuck having to live with the crap they vote for.
Do I expect everyone to be as or more conservative than I am? No. But that doesn't stop me from wishing it were so and for voting for people that are.
It seems that far too often these days, people aren't voting FOR anyone, they are voting AGAINST the other person.
Why does the GOP keep running and supoorting RINOs? Because they have learned that the people will tolerate it. Some of these republicans are just as progressive as their democrat counterparts; they are merely driving the bus to socialism at a slower speed.
This county didn't get as screwed up as it is overnight. It has been incremental changes spread out over decades, often voted on the wee hours of the morning.
Well, IMO we don't have decades to correct it. Do I have all the answers? Nope.
But I do know that unless things change drastically and very soon, America will become nothing more than another banana republic.
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The issue quite simple to remedy. Vote Republican, and, if they don't deserve it, not incumbent Republican.
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I'm not calling for a third party, I'm call for an organized conservative faction inside the GOP to take it over.
And they are trying. But it won't happen overnight...it won't happen by proclaiming Ron Paul as our savior and it won't happen as long as the RINO's and the Libtards see that there is division among our ranks.
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And by the way, what the **** is up with everyone assuming anyone who is conservative bashing the republicans assuming that they want to start a damn third party?
Could be all of that bullshit blather we keep hearing from you disgruntled types about how Dems and Republicans are no different.
It's disingenuious...displays a shallow level of thinking and is so knee jerk that I'm surprised you don't have TBI.
Oh, one more thing, I am doing something and I am not short on solutions whatsoever. Perhaps you should come over to my part of the country and take a look at what we are doing. Never know, you might actually learn something.
Couldn't teach me anything I haven't learned from my state.
The rest of your comment is nothing but dribble knee jerk pissed attitude because someone called the republican party.... bad. Oh , wow, how dare he.
GFYS....and I mean that with all sincerity. You've been nothing but a bombastic asshat since you showed up here.
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The issue quite simple to remedy. Vote Republican, and, if they don't deserve it, not incumbent Republican.
Simple and easy. Too bad the reactionaries on this thread can't see the simplicity in that.
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Simple and easy. Too bad the reactionaries on this thread can't see the simplicity in that.
Yeah its so easy a caveman could do it and thats why we have ended up in the bull shit that we have today. Thank you for your in depth auto vote little participation for an R that requires little to no brainpower to facilitate the degradation of our rights and our childrens future. Hell, maybe next time they will take the Patriot Act and actually do something invasive on the American public right?
And to think you call people like me shallow... Some people here have some serious mental issues. But your right about one thing. Its always easier to vote R, not get involved to change anything because you sitting on your ass crying about no one presenting a solution. Good job.
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Simple and easy. Too bad the reactionaries on this thread can't see the simplicity in that.
I'm not surprised. An Assshat is an Asshat.
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I'm not surprised. An Assshat is an Asshat.
Well said coming from an Asshat. I find it absolutely amazing that the ass is so blind to see the double standard.
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I have been watching the meter.. its climbing the more you speak :bsmeter:
And if I ever found an application for this.. its here with you and your friend.
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Why does the GOP keep running and supoorting RINOs? Because they have learned that the people will tolerate it. Some of these republicans are just as progressive as their democrat counterparts; they are merely driving the bus to socialism at a slower speed.
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They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
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They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
Like Florida, Texas, Arizona, Arkansas, South Carolina
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They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
Bingo. As much as it pains me to say it, LC is absolutely right.
It'd be nice if all those folks hadn't forgotten about conservatism, but I fear they have.
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The issue quite simple to remedy. Vote Republican, and, if they don't deserve it, not incumbent Republican.
I have a better idea.
Vote Conservative, and if they don't deserve it, not an incumbent that merely campaigned as one but acted otherwise once in office.
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Yeah its so easy a caveman could do it and thats why we have ended up in the bull shit that we have today. Thank you for your in depth auto vote little participation for an R that requires little to no brainpower to facilitate the degradation of our rights and our childrens future. Hell, maybe next time they will take the Patriot Act and actually do something invasive on the American public right?
And to think you call people like me shallow... Some people here have some serious mental issues. But your right about one thing. Its always easier to vote R, not get involved to change anything because you sitting on your ass crying about no one presenting a solution. Good job.
I was a member of another board a year or so ago where one moderator referred to herself as a broken glass republican.
I had never heard that term and asked her what she meant.
She told me that she would rather crawl over a field of broken glass rather than vote for someone that didn't have an R behind their name. Or words to that effect.
I was absolutely stunned that a person that I had found, until that point, to be a reasonable, intelligent, politically astute individual.
This was a woman that I had grown to have a fair amount of respect for, based on her previously posted conservative views.
She turned plumb viscious when I started questioning her about her "GOP and only GOP" attitude.
I am coming to the conclusion that we have a few of the "broken glass" type here too.
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They keep running and supporting RINO's because there are many districts where the voting demographic means that a hardline candidate of either stripe cannot win. For the GOP this is especially true in marginal or heavily blue parts of the country.
And thus we end up with politicians that blur the line between conservative and liberal and as a result folks like me have a tendancy to point out that there is a slim difference between the GOP and the DEM party these days.
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Why is Rush sounding like he is defending RINO's?
"The Republican Party is NOT the problem.."??
They are definitely PART OF the problem. TOO many RINOs!
I didn't hear him say that, so I can't comment specifically on it but, I have heard him say that when they do the right thing that he will support them. Right now he thinks they are acting right. He was impressed with how the reacted to Obama at the HC summit.
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Actually the Republican Party is a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Rush is far too partisan for me despite the fact that he does get much right when it comes to conservative ideals. His partisan blood that flows through his veins blinds him just like it does many Republicans.
The whole Republican problem is that the party is more important than the people. Hence they are also infected with socialist or as Glenn Beck likes to put it, "progressive light". Either way you cut it, the majority of them are useless.
Personally I am sick of the partisan bullsh*t. Sorry, sue me for being a constitutionalist I call it like it is. The republican party has FAR more problems than RINO's and anyone who wants to play the libtard card can go ahead and flame like the libs do with this :waisis: and then move on.
And they will be, if we don't wrest control from the frikkin' idiots who think they "just have to get along"! That's Rush's whole point! Take back the party like Reaguns did!
I'm a Reagan Conservative. Back when that actually meant something. We were fightin' the Cold War Commies, cuttin' taxes left and right, and increasing revenue!
A third party does nothing more than ensure DemonRats win elections! Sorry, that has been the cold hard facts for better than a century! Wake up and smell the manure!
ETA: Ask Teddy Roosevelt, Ross Perot, or Bill, "what does "is" mean", Clintoon! Sorry to say I was young and naive enough to think like you when the last one happened. The first time a pres ever got elected with under 50% of the popular vote! Gave me 8 years of cringing every time that DipStick opened his mouth! And uncountable years so far, listening to his Bitch!
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Yeah, the part about starting locally and also voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, I said that in my first post you responded to.
Whining about the Republican Party is not productive. Saying "I told you so" over and over and over again about Scott Brown or John McCain or Mitt Romney is not productive. Either work on taking back the GOP or start a third party or stay at home and sit on your hands because Scott Brown, et al. isn't conservative enough for you.
And if people don't think primaries or local elections are important then be the leader. Be the one people can come to for answers. And if it's choice between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley then you have to be leader enough to know the limitations of what you have to work with. For myself, faced with a Scott Brown vs. a Tammy Baldwin, I'm going to go with the Scott Brown.
Ya know Duke, you hit the nail right on the head! What did these people think Scott Brown was going to be? He's from Massataxes, for cripes sake! 'Probly the most liberal state in the frikkin union!
These guys crack me up! I live in a state where there are nothing but conservatives! At least in my immediate vicinity. I think we have one, count 'im one, DemonRat elected somewhere down around Boise. Even he knows what side his bread is buttered on! You idiots that are complaining, you did it to yourselves!
Quit cryin' in your soup and get off your ass! Being a keyboard warrior on a conservative site, is not going to win you any popularity contest!
ETA: Oh yea, and Rich, me thinks "you doth protest too much"! ( is that how it's written, Coach? Been a long time since I have heard it. )
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Ya know Duke, you hit the nail right on the head! What did these people think Scott Brown was going to be? He's from Massataxes, for cripes sake! 'Probly the most liberal state in the frikkin union!
These guys crack me up! I live in a state where there are nothing but conservatives! At least in my immediate vicinity. I think we have one, count 'im one, DemonRat elected somewhere down around Boise. Even he knows what side his bread is buttered on! You idiots that are complaining, you did it to yourselves!
Quit cryin' in your soup and get off your ass! Being a keyboard warrior on a conservative site, is not going to win you any popularity contest!
ETA: Oh yea, and Rich, me thinks "you doth protest too much"! ( is that how it's written, Coach? Been a long time since I have heard it. )
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You are entitled to your opinion. As am I.
Have nice day.
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You are entitled to your opinion. As am I.
Have nice day.
Jim Bunning gave in. The $15 billion FRAUD bill will now get UNANIMOUS CONSENT. That means every single Republican and every single Democrat thinks its just peachy to hold hands and spend another $10 billion in deficit spending without even having a recorded vote on the matter.
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Jim Bunning gave in. The $15 billion FRAUD bill will now get UNANIMOUS CONSENT. That means every single Republican and every single Democrat thinks its just peachy to hold hands and spend another $10 billion in deficit spending without even having a recorded vote on the matter.
I ain't said a damn word about Bunning.
So what does my comment have to do with yours?
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I ain't said a damn word about Bunning.
So what does my comment have to do with yours?
Nothing.
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Nothing.
Little touchy, ain't he, FG?
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Little touchy, ain't he, FG?
I wonder how much more debt we'll see passed with "Unanimous" consent?? Which means the GOP and Democrats are voting identically. Gee, I do believe that was sort of the topic of conversation on this here thread.
Was I wrong about that Allo?
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I wonder how much more debt we'll see passed with "Unanimous" consent?? Which means the GOP and Democrats are voting identically. Gee, I do believe that was sort of the topic of conversation on this here thread.
Was I wrong about that Allo?
Naw, but it kinda evolved into "I gotta bigger one than you" pissin' match. Heh, heh!
Edited 'cause I confused rich with somebody else!
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Bunning did get them to agree to a recorded vote and it was 78-19. KBH and 2 others weren't there.
MOST GOP Senators voted to add $10 billion to the debt.
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Bunning did get them to agree to a recorded vote and it was 78-19. KBH and 2 others weren't there.
MOST GOP Senators voted to add $10 billion to the debt.
I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds. No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.
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I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds. No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.
This is EXACTLY what Rich is talkin' 'bout! Rush, Beck Hannity, Levin, Ingram, Coulter.... too! We have to take back our party, the Republican party! The party of Lincoln, the party of Reagan!
Until we kick these spendthrifts out, we're in deep doo doo! Having said that, even Levin acknowledges it cannot happen overnight. We're all praying we can do enough to keep America solvent long enough to effect change!
A third party will never, I repeat, never accomplish what needs to be done! We just don't have the time to establish what it would take to elect reps! We have to grab the Repubs by the nutz and force them to our way, period! In my opinion, it's the only thing that will save America for my grand kids!
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Little touchy, ain't he, FG?
Wasn't being touchy. I was pretty tired and thought that I had maybe missed something.
No big deal.
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Wasn't being touchy. I was pretty tired and thought that I had maybe missed something.
No big deal.
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Ah don't sweat it. Creating 3rd party candidates is a hot topic on many boards. I just think it will defeat the purpose. I think we have a better chance of turning the Republican party back to conservatism in the short time we have before everything goes to shirt.
I firmly believe "the Bummer" and his minions would like nothing better than to take this country down to the point we are no longer the leader of the free world. He sure seems hell bent on destroying our currency!
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I really can not understand why these idiots did not use part of the unspent stimulus from last year, or some of the returned TARP funds. No, they had to add another $10B in unfunded debt. This vote should be used against all incumbent in their respective upcoming elections.
If Bunning hadn't made this an issue it would have passed unanimous consent, which is what they wanted. 18 of those who voted NAY are lying their rear ends off.