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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kimberly on February 08, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
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Will must be craving the adulation of his DU glory days and figured this would be the most successful way back in by playing on their sympathies. Or maybe he needs more hits on his truthout drivel. So we get this fictitious sob story about the poor little rich boy who's mercilessly bullied which proves he understands their misery and a kindred spirit of the permanently unable to get past junior high. Actually, this is a not a bad idea to worm his way back into the hearts of the DUmmies and it might work.
I have a livid scar in the center of the back of my right hand. It is clearly visible, so I see it every day, and every time I see it, I am reminded of how I got it. One day, several boys in my junior high school class grabbed me and pinned me to the floor. They extended my right arm and held my hand flat to the floor. One of them took out a pencil and began violently rubbing it against the skin of that hand, until the skin broke, until little balls of my flesh stuck to the eraser, until the blood poured.
I did not cry, I did not scream, and with four larger boys crushing down on me, I could not fight back. See, that was the thing. They wanted to see how long I could go before I wept or cried out. These boys, and several of their friends, had been attacking me on a daily basis for more than two years at this point, and I had stopped giving them the satisfaction of my tears. They didn't like that, so the eraser was meant to elicit the response they desired. They never got it, so they finally stopped ripping my hand open with the eraser, and the four of them settled for beating me up again.
For five long years, this was my life. It began toward the end of grammar school, when the first stirrings of puberty began to manifest itself within my classmates and me. To this day, I don't know exactly what the catalyst was; one day, I was just another kid in the group, and the next day I was the outcast, the butt of the joke, the loser. I changed schools after sixth grade, opting for a small private boy's school instead of continuing in public school with the same group that had made the last two years of my life a living hell. Within two months at the new school, however, the same pattern of harassment and rejection emerged once again, but with a far harsher edge.
There's more but it's way too long to bring all of it over (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7669873#7671117)
However, mother Raven's not too pleased with this new soul baring disclosure.
Raven (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:00 PM
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83. Where were your parents through all of this?
WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #83
87. Working 18-hour days to keep the lights on
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 06:06 PM by WilliamPitt
The parents of kids who get bullied, especially mine, deserve no censure because of this. Ask anyone on this thread; no matter how good parents are, they can't be in the school to keep it from happening. The girl who committed suicide last week had, by all reports, a total Norman Rockwell life. It doesn't matter.
The fault lies with the little bastards who did it, the parents of those little bastards who failed to raise them properly, and the school personnel who allowed it to happen under their noses.
Not talking about it allows it to continue.
Raven (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #87
93. Just for the record: would have liked a "heads up" before you plublished
this. It was a shock and it says to me that no matter what I did, I couldn't reach you on this. No matter how many talks...no matter how many "Mom, everything's ok" didn't matter. So now, 25 years later, I'm reading this on Truthout and DU....for the first time.
Guess you didn't notice that "livid scar" in the middle of his right hand.
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weird. Raven is mom... where were your parents?...
:o
BTW- It bears a little resemblance to that Harry Potter scene where the teacher forces him to write on his hand until it bled.
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Uh, when and where was the Bostonian Drunkard ever a "dean"?
I'm sure he would've mentioned it on his self-published biography on wikipedia.
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Is anyone aware of any cartoon characters named "Dean"?
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:rotf: :rotf:
lol. Pitt forgot all about mom being on DU. I'm sure he got a chill when he saw her post, hoping she won't screw things up for his big comeback.
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I was bullied.
A LOT.
Then one day I busted the shit bag in the face. We trade blows for no few number of seconds.
I never got bullied much after that.
Whoever says violence never solved anything needs to get his teeth rapped.
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I was bullied.
A LOT.
Then one day I busted the shit bag in the face. We trade blows for no few number of seconds.
I never got bullied much after that.
Whoever says violence never solved anything needs to get his teeth rapped.
Exactly. They don't call it survival of the fittest for no reason.
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I was bullied.
A LOT.
Then one day I busted the shit bag in the face. We trade blows for no few number of seconds.
I never got bullied much after that.
Whoever says violence never solved anything needs to get his teeth rapped.
Simple rules of the playground. We do our children a disservice with this "conflict resolution" crap, unless that conflict resolution includes physical self defense.
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They tried to erase Pitt? They should have used White-out.
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They tried to erase Pitt? They should have used White-out.
:rofl:
you win. best reply evah!
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Once a loser, always a loser. And now, on top of that, at the DUmp he's a looser.
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Once a loser, always a loser. And now, on top of that, at the DUmp he's a looser.
And even his mom is forced to publicly acknowledge he's a loser. How sad. How pathetic.
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He got bullied, moved to a different school for a fresh start and got bullied there. I guess some people are just meant to be victims and then they grow into liberals.
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I was bullied.
A LOT.
Then one day I busted the shit bag in the face. We trade blows for no few number of seconds.
I never got bullied much after that.
Whoever says violence never solved anything needs to get his teeth rapped.
I wasn't physically bullied in school..due to one incident on the school bus. A kid that was 3 or 4 years older than me used to bully the very small kids horribly. He'd lost an arm in a farm accident, and used the pinchers on his hook to pinch little boys' ears until they cried. One day, he did it to my baby brother. I marched to the back of the bus and punched him. Of course, I got in trouble, not the older kid. ::)
A couple days later, he sat right behind me on the bus. At one point, my books fell off the seat, and he decided to kick me in the head when I bent down to get them. I came over the back of the seat at him, slapped him 4 times across the face. I got in trouble again, but he never hit me or harrassed my brothers again. :-)
The bigger they are, the more cowardly. It takes quite a coward to back down to a girl 4 years younger.
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will, you're an effin' p*ssy.
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To this day, I don't know exactly what the catalyst was; one day, I was just another kid in the group, and the next day I was the outcast, the butt of the joke, the loser.
Was that the day you claimed Rove would be indicted within 24 "business" hours?
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 08:47 PM
129. I was also constantly bullied from first through tenth grade
It's part of the legacy of Reaganism and I don't think that the trend will reverse any time soon.
Lorien (1000+ posts)
142. The more vicious and cruel a person is the further the get ahead-just like the BFEE.
A two-for!
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 09:17 PM
143. Thanks.
For saying it. I have too many scars to count.Some were made by taking a razor to my own skin.Why do I do this? I do it to rewrite,to learn how to nurture this body,to remember, because the body keeps the score.
Uh, filet=nurture?
Blue Texas Voter (13 posts) Mon Feb-08-10 10:13 PM
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172. My Grandson has Systemic Lupus and is a victim of Bullying
If you are caught fighting you receive a ticket of $700.00 whether your guilty or not, this is a Texas law so the shool district does not discourage fighting because they are racking in the money.
:bs: Not in my part of Texas.
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Guess it never occurred to Will that if he has the same problem at 2 very different schools, perhaps the problem is his personality. In high school I found the best way to not be bullied was to date bikers.
Cindie
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Will & Gang are all nincompoops
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I did not cry, I did not scream, and with four larger boys crushing down on me, I could not fight back. See, that was the thing. They wanted to see how long I could go before I wept or cried out. These boys, and several of their friends, had been attacking me on a daily basis for more than two years at this point, and I had stopped giving them the satisfaction of my tears.
Hell. I'm betting those couple of days in the Texas sun made him cry. Wasn't he whining about fire ants? I know they would make him cry.
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Raven (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #87
93. Just for the record: would have liked a "heads up" before you plublished
this. It was a shock and it says to me that no matter what I did, I couldn't reach you on this. No matter how many talks...no matter how many "Mom, everything's ok" didn't matter. So now, 25 years later, I'm reading this on Truthout and DU....for the first time.
He'll get back to you in 24 Business Hours, Mom. :-)
Javaman (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 09:11 AM
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232. Chipped teeth, broken hand, scars on my hands, arms and face.
Lord of the flies junior and senior high.
Thankfully, most of those bastards are now in prison or dead.
As for the teachers, they live with their guilt anytime one of us confronts them on their past evils. I no longer live in my hometown or anywhere near it, but my close friends, who still do, make sure when they bump into these teachers, that these classroom stalin's remember the evil they did by allowing these things to happen
AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 04:09 PM
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7. The only difference between me and Dylan Klebold
was that I didn't have access to guns. If I did, I would have shot a couple of the kids who bullied me for being fat.
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
158. God, I hear ya.
In my case...not just fat...try fat, short, with glasses, not good at sports, but with a big vocabulary. It's amazing I got out of Junior High alive
CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 04:19 PM
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18. My God, Will...
What a horrific story. My heart goes out to you, for all you have suffered. It makes me weep...
I hope that you will find peace at last...
And that this epidemic of abuse, given and taken, will finally end.
K&R
:rolleyes: FFS. Dear Gawd yes it must have been absolutely BRUTAL growing up as an alchoholic halfwit trust fund baby failed journalist, failed poitical campaign staffer who has to play the victim card to get some attention. You should addopt him Peg. Maybe you could nurse him daily. It might do both of you some good. JHC.
Gman2 (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 04:21 PM
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20. I was the skinniest kid in Jr high, and had gangs chase me home every day.
I told my parents about one guy that threw bricks at me. I had a comference with the pronciple. He finally, after hearing the whole story said, Yknow, sticks and stones etc. My parents said that to deal with this, I will get a beating, unless I fight back. So, I started fighting. I fought about 2-3 times a week. usually one grade up. I have beat the shit outta likely two hundred punks. Were that not the case, I would still suffer from that. Teachers dont want trouble. Now, both get expelled. My education was shit, of course.
TrogL (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #73
86. So what do you do about the sexual stuff?
The endless homophobic taunts?
Having your pants pulled down to your ankles in the middle of the hall during rush hour?
Being swarmed in the washroom?
TrogL (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #29
55. Where are the parents?
Bullies/sociopaths themselves
Drunk
In jail
Watching professional wrestling on TV
TrogL (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #78
89. No point. That just makes it worse
My parents went to the principal. The principal retaliated in class saying I shouldn't have dragged my parents into it and should stand up for myself
Ladies and gentlemen... I give you the focus of the "But he was so QUIET" reference when they finally find the tenth or eleventh missing hooker...
Holy Hell what a bunch of ****ing rejects.
Hey DU?
[youtube=425,350]KAZgZ-JyzjI[/youtube]
libodem (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 04:15 PM
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13. Thanks, Will
Your story certainly humanizes you. It's very touching and I can relate. I grew up in a very small town with a hierarchical mentality. I was on a pretty low rung of the ladder. Sensitive, smart and shy. What a hellish combo. Thanks for sharing.
tXr (223 posts) Mon Feb-08-10 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
123. It is a terribly sad commentary on our society that sensitive, smart, and shy is
considered a "hellish combo".
<hugs>for what you went through.
:rolleyes:
As for the rest of you jackholes...
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/asdf2231/Motivational/633513302188911283-unrequited-love-.jpg)
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Too bad Young Will didn't have his trusty can of Chef Boyardee at the time.The bully would have felt his fury for sure! :-)
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By the time I got to middle school and high school people were so busy in their own little cliques, I honestly didn't notice a lot of teasing. Granted, I was never a target but word gets around about these kinds of things.
Cindie
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Guess it never occurred to Will that if he has the same problem at 2 very different schools, perhaps the problem is his personality. In high school I found the best way to not be bullied was to date bikers.
Cindie
It is a kind of ugly biological fact that kids will pick out the weak link or links and behave badly toward them. Adults do it too, of course, but usually in more socially-acceptable ways. In his case I can certainly see how it ended up being him.
By high school, he may have started dating bikers too.
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Will Pitt can tell it to the proverbial hand...
I was born and raised a Navy brat. That means that every 18 months - 30 at the outside - I had a new home, new school, new neighborhood and new kids to play with as a yute. I have been an "outsider" for as long as I can remember. I got "bullied" every time I showed up at a new school. I learned I had two options: I could toughen up, strike back and deal with whatever consequences there might have been, or I could toughen up and take/ignore the abuse. Either way, it required me to toughen up, grow a pair and get on with the business of living.
Pitt is what? 40? 45? 55? And this ****er is still traumatized by a bully who probably doesn't even remember this pathetic cowardly ****? Cry me a ****in' river DUmbass.
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I was bullied.
A LOT.
Then one day I busted the shit bag in the face. We trade blows for no few number of seconds.
I never got bullied much after that.
Whoever says violence never solved anything needs to get his teeth rapped.
Same here, to some extent. My family moved to a new school district in 7th grade, and some little mouthy kid was constantly blowing me shit. I finally told him to **** off, and he challenged me to a fight. I beat the crap out of him, and never got bullied again.
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Guess it never occurred to Will that if he has the same problem at 2 very different schools, perhaps the problem is his personality. In high school I found the best way to not be bullied was to date bikers.
Cindie
Will Pitt tried that. He got beat up by bikers.
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Will Pitt tried that. He got beat up by bikers.
sad part was they were toddlers riding trikes. :lmao:
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-08-10 04:21 PM
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20. I had a comference with the pronciple.
Did you know that Gman2, one of the stupidest people on the internets, reproduced?
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Wee Willie just got pwned by his own Mama.... lol!! tears of joys.
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sad part was they were toddlers riding trikes. :lmao:
Now that's funny right thar!!! :cheersmate:
Cindie
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I see his peers had the loser figured out way back when.
And he not only gets to play the victim card, he gets to blame his parents on being neglectful. I say Mom gets to beat him up next.
The only ones I remember getting beat up all the time in school where the kids who had little smart-a**ed mouths and didn't know when to shut up. My guess is this was no different.
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Okay, who has the Pic of Wee Willy and his ten gallon hat from Cindy the Ditch Witch's little outing in Crawford?
One look at that Pic, and it's all the reason you need to understand why the little prick got his butt kicked on a daily basis.
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After Pitt's testimony of how this ruined his life, his MOM encourages the DUmmies to ridicule others.
Raven (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-10-10 08:50 PM
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We have to start laughing at these people...laughing and pushing back.
Somebody making fun of Sarah? Horrors! Someone like Rachael calling these guys on the stim money...rattling the names off with a bright smile on her face? Horrors.Everyday, day after day, make fun of them and push back. Do it with a smile and a sharp jab. Shame on us that we won't play fair...in my life I've found that the meanest people have the thinnest skin and they are cowards when confronted.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7687274
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Do it with a smile and a sharp jab.
She overestimates her audience's intelligence and skill. Most moonbats that try this usually come off looking like the unhinged nuts they are.
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Bouncy.
Physical scars wouldn't be vivid after 25 years. The mental ones, well they turn you into a 24 business hour DUmmie. :-)
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Bouncy.
Physical scars wouldn't be vivid after 25 years. The mental ones, well they turn you into a 24 business hour DUmmie. :-)
Especially this one. We used to do this to ourselves. It was like a rite of passage to show how tough you were. My scar faded to nothing before I got into high school. pitt's a p*ssy.
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Exactly. They don't call it survival of the fittest for no reason.
This is actually the only reason for public schools both in my experience and as far as I can tell.
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Raven (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-10-10 08:50 PM
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in my life I've found that the meanest people have the thinnest skin and they are cowards when confronted.
In my experience, DUmmy Raven is as full of shit as her unemployable, alcoholic, wreck of a son. As a yute, I was neither a bully nor the victim of bullies, but from my personal playground observations, most of the victims, had they struck back, would have been beaten within an inch of their lives, repeatedly. I'm sure that would have been the fate of a spineless, worthless shitstain like William Rivers Pitt.
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Raven
We have to start laughing at these people...laughing and pushing back.
Somebody making fun of Sarah? Horrors! Someone like Rachael calling these guys on the stim money...rattling the names off with a bright smile on her face? Horrors.Everyday, day after day, make fun of them and push back. Do it with a smile and a sharp jab. Shame on us that we won't play fair...in my life I've found that the meanest people have the thinnest skin and they are cowards when confronted.
Exactly why would a group of insignificant peons "laughing and pushing back" have any effect on conservatives? For 8 years they spent 24/7 doing their best to ruin Bush and now we're barely pusing back and they get into this "You can't do that to to *our* president." Pftttt. Whatever.
Truth be told, libs are thin skinned and don't believe anyone should ever question them, much less make fun of them. Case in point, just look at (1) Dear Leader and how insecure he is, and (2) look at how this forum alone drives the primitives bonkers.
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Exactly why would a group of insignificant peons "laughing and pushing back" have any effect on conservatives? For 8 years they spent 24/7 doing their best to ruin Bush and now were barely pusing back and they get into this "You can't do that to to *our* president." Pftttt. Whatever.
Truth be told, libs are thin skinned and don't believe anyone should ever question them, much less make fun of them. Case in point, just look at (1) Dear Leader and how insecure he is, and (2) look at how this forum alone drives the primitives bonkers.
Remember the SNL skit about Obama, when CNN fact checked it the left was so horrified someone had poked fun at Obama?
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Will Pitt can tell it to the proverbial hand...
I was born and raised a Navy brat. That means that every 18 months - 30 at the outside - I had a new home, new school, new neighborhood and new kids to play with as a yute. I have been an "outsider" for as long as I can remember. I got "bullied" every time I showed up at a new school. I learned I had two options: I could toughen up, strike back and deal with whatever consequences there might have been, or I could toughen up and take/ignore the abuse. Either way, it required me to toughen up, grow a pair and get on with the business of living.
Pitt is what? 40? 45? 55? And this ****er is still traumatized by a bully who probably doesn't even remember this pathetic cowardly ****? Cry me a ******' river DUmbass.
Same here Navy Brat all ways the outsider. I learned to ignore everyone as in a year or 2, I would never see them again.
Lots of hypocrisy back then from parents and teachers. I also got the sticks and stones lecture yet when I callled a class mate 4 eyes I got punished.
Adults refused to recognize that a broken leg will heal but names can destroy ones life, commie, red, fag, thief, slut, town idiot, cry baby, snob, trailer trash, any kind of label, handy capped, to learning disabled.
Some people are just born shy, and afraid of the things they believe they cannot control. Some as adults have become down right mean and adult bully's to cope.
Sad, I knew a woman that committed suicide at age 26 because she became of her own personality, unhinged and invited, almost encouraged everyone to dislike her. It became a threat to her when anyone tried to befriend her and she delighted in the misfortunes of others. Hell she FEED on trouble for others and came as close to a really Evil person I have yet to meet. Her death was called a suicide but I know of at least 3 people who she had spread down right lies about, they had lost jobs or family's to her meanness. HMMMMM.
Bully's know who is ripe for the picking, both as kids and adults. Like a dog they can smell fear 100 feet away. Those that walk with down cast eyes, those that do not step lively with confidence, they have a big V for victim all over them.
Alike the motorcycle gangs, those that join one are sure to come into conflict with a rival gang at some point. More and more riders are opting to remaining independents and avoid trouble as far as possible.
Kids that only hang out with those of their kind are in the same situation. I encouraged my kids to join the science club and go into some kind of sport, theater and art class to get a feel for everything, they were never bullied as they moved too fast to be really noticed.
We all have to face bully's in life, the grouchy old man that calls the cops everytime a tree limb falls off your tree into their yard, calls city inspection to inquire if you have a permit to build a deck on your home.
However kids learn to deal with bully's in childhood is a excellent lesson in how to deal with them as an adult, one cannot as an adult beat them up, so one has to use their brain to outwit them.