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Title: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: CC27 on January 12, 2010, 01:31:48 PM
President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors

Executive Order will Strengthen Further Partnership Between the Federal and State and Local Governments to Better Protect Our Nation

The President today signed an Executive Order (attached) establishing a Council of Governors to strengthen further the partnership between the Federal Government and State Governments to protect our Nation against all types of hazards.  When appointed, the Council will be reviewing such matters as involving the National Guard of the various States; homeland defense; civil support; synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7203/162394-40887-grand-moff-tarkin_super.jpg)  "The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us.  I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently... The regional governors now have direct control over their systems.  Fear will keep the local systems in line.  Fear of this battlestation."
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: ConservativeMobster on January 12, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
OH. SHIT.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 12, 2010, 01:53:09 PM
It can serve some valuable purposes, as long as it isn't dominated by Democrats.  If that happened, it would be indistinguishable from a Mafia Don's war council with his Capos and Consiglieri.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: SilverOrchid on January 12, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
The Emperor: [to the Senate]:  In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society which I assure you will last for ten thousand years.

[Senate fills with enormous applause]

Padmé: [to Bail Organa]:  So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: IassaFTots on January 12, 2010, 02:25:34 PM
]:  So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

You said it sister.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: rich_t on January 12, 2010, 02:49:23 PM
Another nail in the coffin of the United States of America.

A council of 10 governors out of 50, appointed by the President?

Same party or not they will all be from Blue states having governors with distict liberal leanings.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 12, 2010, 03:28:16 PM
5 liberals and 5 blue state RINO's.....the camps must just about ready, huh?
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 12, 2010, 04:00:07 PM
It can serve some valuable purposes, as long as it isn't dominated by Democrats.  If that happened, it would be indistinguishable from a Mafia Don's war council with his Capos and Consiglieri.

DAT, as I see it, the chances of that are exactly two:

1) Slim
2) None

Slim's from Australia, and he's going back there.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Traveshamockery on January 12, 2010, 05:15:44 PM
I wonder if Rick Perry is up for consideration...............I kind of doubt it. 

Come on down to Texas - we've got plenty of room and we're lobbying to put up a border fence - along the northern and eastern borders! 

 :hyper:
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: longview on January 12, 2010, 05:48:30 PM
"By the authority vested in me as President by theConstitution..."

Where in the Constitution?

"(e)
The Council may establish a charter that is consistent with the terms of this order to refine further its purpose, scope, and objectives and to allocate duties, as appropriate, among members."

Refine it's scope?  That's pretty vague.  What's already in there is bad.

"(c)
This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person."

He thinks this will keep it from being challenged? 

The quote about liberty dying to thunderous applause is sad, but it seems to fit.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 06:22:20 PM
if you're surprised, you're dumb.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: TheSarge on January 12, 2010, 06:40:55 PM
(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/img/movie_bg.jpg)

It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love democracy. I love the Republic. The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has be abated! My first act, with this new authority, is to create a Grand Army of the Republic, to counter the increasing threat of the Separatists.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on January 12, 2010, 07:03:30 PM
“(d) synchronization and integration of State and Federalmilitary activities in the United States; and”

“(e) other matters of mutual interest pertaining toNational Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.”


Sounds like a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act which was passed to substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 07:11:19 PM
“(d) synchronization and integration of State and Federalmilitary activities in the United States; and”

“(e) other matters of mutual interest pertaining toNational Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.”


Sounds like a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act which was passed to substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.


to which I respond... "so? why does that matter?"
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
to which I respond... "so? why does that matter?"

It matters, because it used to stand in the way of an out of control federal government using the military in ways the founders never intended, against the civilian populace.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Pat on January 12, 2010, 07:21:50 PM
It matters, because it used to stand in the way of an out of control federal government using the military in ways the founders never intended, against the civilian populace.


http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 07:23:30 PM
It matters, because it used to stand in the way of an out of control federal government using the military in ways the founders never intended, against the civilian populace.

Actually, no... it doesn't matter. They don't care about violating COTUS, so why would they care about PC? They don't. Very few people in the country care about it or even know about it... so in the end, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 07:40:38 PM
Actually, no... it doesn't matter. They don't care about violating COTUS, so why would they care about PC? They don't. Very few people in the country care about it or even know about it... so in the end, it doesn't matter.

It matters because when Lord Zero plunges this country into chaos the likes of which few of us have ever known before, it will be one more charge for him to defend against at his trial for treason.  One more knot in the proverbial hangman's rope.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
It matters because when Lord Zero plunges this country into chaos the likes of which few of us have ever known before, it will be one more charge against him at his trial for treason.

Nice pipe dream. No offense, I would love to see that, but this is meaningless. Nobody cares. Your congress doesn't care. Your state reps don't care. 90% of the citizens don't care about this. It doesn't matter anymore.

And if you honestly think they'll charge Obama with treason, I think you'll be disappointed.

Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
Nice pipe dream. No offense, I would love to see that, but this is meaningless. Nobody cares. Your congress doesn't care. Your state reps don't care. 90% of the citizens don't care about this. It doesn't matter anymore.

And if you honestly think they'll charge Obama with treason, I think you'll be disappointed.



I honestly believe the majority of them will be standing trial with him for treason.  You don't plunge this country into the kind of chaos that Lord Zero and his gang have been driving us to without consequences.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: bkg on January 12, 2010, 07:47:37 PM
I honestly believe the majority of them will be standing trial with him for treason.  You don't plunge this country into the kind of chaos that Lord Zero and his gang have been driving us to without consequences.

Hope you're right, believe you're wrong.

Every generation says the one before fawked this place up. Truth to that. We are more fawked up than we were 10 years ago, sure, but it's all relative, so it frankly doesn't mean anything anymore. Cynical? perhaps. Realistic? Well.. look at history.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on January 12, 2010, 07:54:58 PM
Hope you're right, believe you're wrong.

Every generation says the one before fawked this place up. Truth to that. We are more fawked up than we were 10 years ago, sure, but it's all relative, so it frankly doesn't mean anything anymore. Cynical? perhaps. Realistic? Well.. look at history.

Tell me about it.  I pray every night that the country doesn't go down that road, because we'll all see some awful ugly shit before it's over.  Unfortunately, being a christian, I know that the scriptures say that before the Lord comes again, Israel must stand alone against the whole world, and since we - the United States - have been Israel's strongest ally since damned near her inception, the insanity I believe Lord Zero is driving us to is just about the one sure way to take us out of the picture and permit prophesy to be fulfilled.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Airwolf on January 12, 2010, 11:41:40 PM
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7203/162394-40887-grand-moff-tarkin_super.jpg)  "The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us.  I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently... The regional governors now have direct control over their systems.  Fear will keep the local systems in line.  Fear of this battlestation."

This was my thought exactly when I saw the thread title.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 14, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
Isn't there a line in Revelations about The Beast having 10 crowns?

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Alpha Mare on February 07, 2010, 02:34:57 AM
Quote
WASHINGTON – Today, President Barack Obama announced his intent to appoint the following individuals to the Council of Governors.  The Council, created January 11 of this year by Executive Order, will work closely with the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and other defense and national security advisors to exchange views, information and advice on matters of mutual interest pertaining to the National Guard, homeland defense, synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States, and civil support activities. 

Governor James H. Douglas, Co-Chair, Council of Governors
Governor Chris Gregoire, Co-Chair, Council of Governors
Governor Janice K. Brewer, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Luis G. Fortuño, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Brad Henry, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Robert F. McDonnell, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Jeremiah W. (Jay) Nixon, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Martin O’Malley, Member, Council of Governors
Governor Beverly Eaves Perdue, Member, Council of Governors
Governor M. Michael Rounds, Member, Council of Governors

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-announces-more-key-administration-posts-2410-0

I'm hearing some serious rumbles about this 'council' and Posse Comitatus.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 07, 2010, 09:23:17 AM
Nixon is actually not a bad guy, for a Democrat anyway, and everyone knows Gregoire is a trainwreck.  I'm not familiar with the rest of them. 
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Mike220 on February 07, 2010, 10:11:08 AM
Governor James H. Douglas, Co-Chair, Council of Governors R-Vermont
Governor Chris Gregoire, Co-Chair, Council of Governors D-Washington
Governor Janice K. Brewer, Member, Council of Governors R-Arizona, took over for Incompitano
Governor Luis G. Fortuño, Member, Council of Governors R- Puerto Rico...
Governor Brad Henry, Member, Council of Governors D-Oklahoma
Governor Robert F. McDonnell, Member, Council of Governors R-Virginia
Governor Jeremiah W. (Jay) Nixon, Member, Council of Governors D-Missouri
Governor Martin O’Malley, Member, Council of Governors D-Maryland
Governor Beverly Eaves Perdue, Member, Council of Governors D-North Carolina
Governor M. Michael Rounds, Member, Council of Governors R-South Dakota

Five of each. What's the over/under on Obambi pulling the Repubs aside and saying some form of "I won. Get over it" to try and browbeat them?
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 07, 2010, 10:26:04 AM
Beverly Eaves Perdue is Democrat governor of NORTH CAROLINA.....we got enough crazy democrats in SC without borrowing any from NC.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Mike220 on February 07, 2010, 10:39:37 AM
Beverly Eaves Perdue is Democrat governor of NORTH CAROLINA.....we got enough crazy democrats in SC without borrowing any from NC.

My bad. Still a little hung over. You have to deal with Bauer, so my apologies.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Thor on February 07, 2010, 11:31:26 AM
I merged these two topics.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: Crazy Horse on February 07, 2010, 01:07:25 PM
Beverly Eaves Perdue is Democrat governor of NORTH CAROLINA.....we got enough crazy democrats in SC without borrowing any from NC.

Only thing I can say about Bev is she's pro military
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: thundley4 on February 07, 2010, 03:50:28 PM
No governors from border states? 
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: DefiantSix on February 07, 2010, 04:24:33 PM
No governors from border states? 

Unless they border the Atlantic or Pacific oceans, or Lake Michigan, Lord Zero isn't interested in the 'Outer Rim' Governors and what they might have to say.
Title: Re: President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Post by: thundley4 on February 07, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
Unless they border the Atlantic or Pacific oceans, or Lake Michigan, Lord Zero isn't interested in the 'Outer Rim' Governors and what they might have to say.

Yeah it's not like there's a big concern about terrorist crossing our porous land borders, and maybe bering a couple of nukes or dirty bombs in with them.