Damn, that 30-point nosedive in the polls must be a BITCH, eh Ben?
Go fcuk yourself, Nelson. You should have thought about how costly were the wages of political sin before you sinned, not after. He who pays the piper, calls the tune - so you're stuck dancing with Herr-y Reid and the rest of the New Fascists.
Apparently Senator nelson is ignorant of the history that South Carolina has of telling the Federal Government to GFYS.
Apparently Senator nelson is ignorant of the history that South Carolina has of telling the Federal Government to GFYS.
Really, I never knew South Carolina to take States Rights serious..............sorry channeling Nelson
I can imagine the AG laughing during and after that phone call
:lmao:
Isn't this just the saddest face you ever saw? Its the face of a man who political career is ruined by not just accepting a bribe, but by betraying his own stated beliefs. Its the face of a man who's constituents know he is a liar. Its the face of a man who's son will never be trusted to follow in his footsteps.
Its the face we're gonna see more of in 2010.
(http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Politics/Ben-Nelson_monster_397x224.jpg)
Isn't this just the saddest face you ever saw? Its the face of a man who political career is ruined by not just accepting a bribe, but by betraying his own stated beliefs. Its the face of a man who's constituents know he is a liar. Its the face of a man who's son will never be trusted to follow in his footsteps.
Its the face we're gonna see more of in 2010.
(http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Politics/Ben-Nelson_monster_397x224.jpg)
He is a lying sack of sh!t when he says that the deal offered him will apply to other states. Read the bill; it says no such thing. Maybe he will get religion and vote against it the second time around. I doubt it though because these DC turkeys think they know best, and that we are stupid.
I can imagine the AG laughing during and after that phone call
Even if he did it won`t matter now as a simple majority is all that will be required for final passage of the reconciled bill from the House.
If I am wrong there forgive and please correct me.
“But Nelson told McMaster that the deal wasn’t his idea...â€
This is like watching a bad soap opera, on a daily basis! Geez, Nelson - a least “man†up about it!! His face looks worried, and it should cause he’s gone and pissed off the devil now too... :evil:
The devil went down to Nebraska
He was lookin’ for a soul to steal
He was in a bind
‘Cause he was way behind
And he was willin’ to make a deal
When he came upon Senator Ben Nelson
Chewin’ on a 2000+ page bill...
Bless his heart
:rotf: A Texan taught my kids that the interpretation of this would be, "What an idiot!" :rotf:
“But Nelson told McMaster that the deal wasn’t his idea...”
This is like watching a bad soap opera, on a daily basis! Geez, Nelson - a least “man” up about it!! His face looks worried, and it should cause he’s gone and pissed off the devil now too... :evil:
The devil went down to Nebraska
He was lookin’ for a soul to steal
He was in a bind
‘Cause he was way behind
And he was willin’ to make a deal
When he came upon Senator Ben Nelson
Chewin’ on a 2000+ page bill...
Even if he did it won`t matter now as a simple majority is all that will be required for final passage of the reconciled bill from the House.
If I am wrong there forgive and please correct me.
Hee, hee! Good lyrics; I'm sure Charlie Daniels would approve.
Really, I never knew South Carolina to take States Rights serious..............sorry channeling Nelson
I can imagine the AG laughing during and after that phone call
:lmao:
Around where I live we already had one guy kill two sheriffs deputies due to the State taking part of his land for road construction, no joke. People take this stuff seriously here.
I hope you do not think that this was justified. The sheriff deputies were only following orders. This kind of crap does not end well for anyone.
I suspect we will be seeing more of such if things keep progressing as they have been for the past several decades.
People eventually reach a point where they say enough is enough and are willing to kill to stop what they see as wrong.
Two major points in US history show this. The US Revolution and the Civil War.
Now we can debate the finer point of both occassions until the cows come home. But the bottom line IMO is that folks had had enough and opted to fight back.
I suspect that we will see another such major turning point for the US Republic within another generation or so.
I hope you do not think that this was justified. The sheriff deputies were only following orders. This kind of crap does not end well for anyone.
I suspect we will be seeing more of such if things keep progressing as they have been for the past several decades.
People eventually reach a point where they say enough is enough and are willing to kill to stop what they see as wrong.
Two major points in US history show this. The US Revolution and the Civil War.
Now we can debate the finer point of both occassions until the cows come home. But the bottom line IMO is that folks had had enough and opted to fight back.
I suspect that we will see another such major turning point for the US Republic within another generation or so.
I think you are correct but I heard from one of the Repub Senators that some type of parliamentary procedure could force the final vote to have 60 votes.
I hope you do not think that this was justified. The sheriff deputies were only following orders. This kind of crap does not end well for anyone.
Ive been gone for a bit.. but when I come back I find this....
Now... Lacarnut... Where in my statement do I suggest that anything is justified on either side? I would like for you to point out where I said I justify anything?
What did I say... People take things seriously where I am from and apparently this guy did as well when his land was to be taken.
Now can you imagine some old grandma raiding the doctors office with an AK47 because she was put on a waiting list to see a doctor... if you want to see it move to where I am. Coming to a theater near you.
I don't have a problem fighting back thru legal and peacfull means; however, in this case, the man that killed the two sheriff deputies is bat shit crazy. He should be executed for murder. What the hell do you think about that?
For many, many, many, many years the state has the right to confiscate and pay you for property if they are building a road. What part of that fact do you not understand. My parents owned a rent house in the 60's that the state took to build an interstate.
I didn't say I approved of this guys actions.
I stated that I expect to see more of that type of thing if more folks feel that they have had enough from an abusive government.
I don't think taking your land because of a road crossing it qualifies as abusive. The government has been doing it for over 50 years that I know about.
Like I said, this guy is guilty of murder. There is no justification for what he did.
Just because the government declares something as legal doesn't mean that the people see such actions by the government as just, fair or non-abusive.
Life is not just, fair or nonabusive. I am a right winger from the word go. However, I do not see that hatred that everything the government stands for as helpfull to conservatives. It just gives screwballs in this administration and Nappy ammunition.
Dude...
I ain't talking about conservatives. I am talking about people in general.
Of course life isn't fair. But I do expect our Republic form of government to act in a just and non-abusive manner.
Otherwise it is merely tyranny under color of law. Just like our Founders had under dear ole King George.
Well, Dude, I am talking about conservatives. This is a conservative site. However, let me make it plain and clear. Anarchy will result in disastrous results for all concerned. Plus, it does seem we have nuts that want to go that route. As a conservative, that is not my bag.
I'll grant you that this site membership is more conservative than not.See Javelin posts above. Grandma's with AK47's shooting up a doctors office and that just the way it is here. This is coming to where you live. I do not know what that sounds like to you but it sounds like anarchy (lawlessness) to me. Like I said, this type of talk just gives ammo to O and his administration. If you want them to pass more gun laws, keep this kind of stupid talk up. BTW, this is directed at everyone. So don't get your diapers in a wad.
Who besides you, mentioned anything about anarchy?
It looks to me like you are reading into things not posted.
I expressed an opinion that "I" expect to see more of such actions in the future.
No more, no less.
See Javelin posts above. Grandma's with AK47's shooting up a doctors office and that just the way it is here. This is coming to where you live. I do not know what that sounds like to you but it sounds like anarchy (lawlessness) to me. Like I said, this type of talk just gives ammo to O and his administration. If you want them to pass more gun laws, keep this kind of stupid talk up. BTW, this is directed at everyone. So don't get your diapers in a wad.
There is a bit of satire in my post, just in case your actually so ignorant that you cannot see that Lacar.... come on man.
In all seriousness though, I dont know where your from, but there are some people that are more than willing to uphold the oath that we took. You know, to defend our nation from all enemies forign and domestic. Within civilizations there are periods when the rubber just meets the road and all the talk is over. For our founding fathers it was a letter sent to the Congress by King George informing them that no matter the peaceful measures they were seeking, they would all be branded as traitors and killed. I do see the potential for this kind of extreme in our time. If one cannot, then they better take another close hard look at Washington today.
I for one will defend my family, home and rights. First I will exhaust every peaceful means available, but when they are done talking and we are informed that its put up or shut up... well... I simply cannot shut up.
I do not expect everyone to be in the same mindset that I am on this by any means. A three percenter is not called a three percenter for nothing.
Oh and by the way, they will pass whatever gun laws they wish despite whatever is said. I surely hope you do not live inside of that kind of delusion... or if you do, perhaps you could be more politically correct to please them or better yet, join their side.
I am from south Louisiana. Your satire is who the nuts at H.S. are referring to as home grown terrorists. Your big mouth can get you in a lot trouble. That's what I call ignorant.
You think you are some kinda of bad ass. Got news for you; there are just as many people that will defend their their family here as where you live. You might think you have a patent on that but you don't.
Oh, and by the way, you give the government ammunition and they will pass more gun laws. So keep running your mouth off. You are doing a lot of good. Not. Big brother might show up on your doorsteps with all your yakking. FYI, I am a right winger with a few guns and plenty of ammo.
I'd like to see every single incumbant replaced this November. From both parties.
That would definitely be something I would love to see.
That would definitely be something I would love to see.
No, instead of throwing all the asshats out, I think there ought to be some extremely rigid and publicly acknowledged requirements for serving in the Congress. These are a few of my thoughts:There's more but that'll do for now.
- Term limits of NMT 8 years for a House member and 12 years for a senator
- No arrest record of any kind, for any reason
- Once identified as the subject of an investigation, the congresscritter is not eligible to run for election until the inquiry clears his/her name
- Congress may not investigate itself. That's like the fox watching the henhouse.
WATCH YOUR MOUTH!!! Shhhhhh the black helicopters might hear you... you know your on the list now.. you said the "G" word.
Once again, if you live inside of the delusion that if we were to act like the perfect child that they would not pass more gun control laws... your the friggin nutcase. I am being honest here.
As to what I say, ever hear the phrase "Speak without fear"? I am not threatening anyone nor anything. I am stating my natural born right to defend myself, home, family and my rights just as every other human being on this planet has. And FYI I have physically defended my and your rights when I served with the USMC, worked in military intelligence and served as a civilian contractor.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with stating the obvious facts and if you for one second believe they have not already calculated this very "American" mindset into their figures as if what we are discussing is something new, youve lost your mind.
You sound like some kind of scared hide under a rock individual that has no backbone. Tell you what, those guns you have are not going to do you a bit of good. Do yourself a favor and send them to me.
Sonny Boy, I was serving my country in the Army before you were born. I am not scared. Just concerned with punks like you running your mouth off. If you do not think that Janet N. is not making a list you are crazy. If you want to get on that list, be my guest.
As far as sending my guns to you. Come take them if you think you are man enough.
And that would accomplish what exactly?
I share that sentiment as an emotion, but from a practical perspective, if that were to happen the only people running the ******* Congress would be the lobbyists and the current administration.
That isn't a good option.
No, instead of throwing all the asshats out, I think there ought to be some extremely rigid and publicly acknowledged requirements for serving in the Congress. These are a few of my thoughts:There's more but that'll do for now.
- Term limits of NMT 8 years for a House member and 12 years for a senator
- No arrest record of any kind, for any reason
- Once identified as the subject of an investigation, the congresscritter is not eligible to run for election until the inquiry clears his/her name
- Congress may not investigate itself. That's like the fox watching the henhouse.
Yes, I am acquainted with reality. I would love to see the bloodsuckers cut off from the host, though. :-)
Oh, I dunno, maybe getting a good majority of the leaches off the body politic?
Yes, I know it won't happen and, yes, some incumbents are actually doing a good job. But, dammit, if I can't have a pony, at least I can "hope" for something.
Now thats the spirit Im talking about :cheersmate:
By the way, Im already on the list. Due to the nature of my former job I would be crazy to assume I am not. Most likely you already are as well.
There is a very real difference in being a Patriot and a terrorist. I do not confuse the two, so do not confuse me with the other anarchist idiots in the world.
If I remember correctly, standard proceedure for removing leeches from a host is to burn them with a lit cigarette, repeating as necessary.
Hell, following that proceedure, I could spend 10 hours on SanFran Nancy alone. Sounds like a hoot... :naughty:
I share that sentiment as an emotion, but from a practical perspective, if that were to happen the only people running the ******* Congress would be the lobbyists and the current administration.
That isn't a good option.
No, instead of throwing all the asshats out, I think there ought to be some extremely rigid and publicly acknowledged requirements for serving in the Congress. These are a few of my thoughts:There's more but that'll do for now.
- Term limits of NMT 8 years for a House member and 12 years for a senator
- No arrest record of any kind, for any reason
- Once identified as the subject of an investigation, the congresscritter is not eligible to run for election until the inquiry clears his/her name
- Congress may not investigate itself. That's like the fox watching the henhouse.
•Once identified as the subject of an investigation, the congresscritter is not eligible to run for election until the inquiry clears his/her name
Respectfully, I disagree.
I am uncomfortable with point number two, because that should be up to the voters--an underage drinking arrest in college shouldn't disallow someone from getting elected. And the third one, that could be turned into political hay.
And who would investigate Congress?
Great points.
I guess I am of the opinion that we get the government that we deserve. I know some great leaders who have made stupid mistakes in their youths. I know people who have never, ever round afoul of the law--not even a parking ticket--whom I wouldn't trust with a nickel.
I think the key to improving our leadership is not term limits or more stringent rules for Congress eligibility, but a more educated electorate. We wouln't need term limits, for example, if voters paid attention to their voting responsibilities.
Of course, I don't know which of our ideas is more "pie in the sky," because Congress will never enact your rules, and the average American voter is amazingly gullible.
Of course, I don't know which of our ideas is more "pie in the sky," because Congress will never enact your rules, and the average American voter is amazingly gullible.
We're like horses with blinders on. We see our X-box, our VCR, our computer, our iphone, our ipod and that damned dog that shits on our lawn. We don't see the unscrupulous and evil congresscritter that is raping us left and right.
I completely agree with you also. I spend many, many hours researching who is (or will be) on the "ticket". When I cast my vote, I do not do it blindly.
An interesting poll question was posed on another forum (back some time ago):
How old should one be, to be able to "vote"?
or something to that nature...
A. 18 B. 21 C. 25 D. 30
My first instinct was to say 18. However, after some thought, I did not choose 18; as I believe it is too young.
Your example of X-box, ipods, etc. was exactly what I thought about when answering the poll question. IMO, many of our youth displayed ignorance in this past Presidential election because they did not do the research necessary when casting such an important vote...