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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 12, 2009, 06:37:49 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x75664
Oh my.
The wired gassy primitive, from that farmette up over there in Wisconsin:
grasswire (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:14 AM
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do you drink vinegar?
I thought I would try some the other night for its alleged benefits. I mixed it half and half with water in a four ounce cup.
Wellllll.....
That is far too strong a mixture! I don't think it's possible to drink it like that -- the body objects!
So then I read that two teaspoons in a glass of water is a good ratio. Apple cider vinegar.
Does anyone here take it regularly?
franksolich doesn't drink vinegar, but when franksolich used to imbibe in alcohol, his favorite was St.-Louis Beajolais, that bitter red wine that tastes like the blood of one's enemies. franksolich used to drink a lot of that stuff.
paulsby (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:16 AM
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1. yes
i make my own pickles.
the sour pickles have no vinegar.
but the dills do.
i drink the solution that the dills brine in. it's vinegar, but it has some extra flavor. i find it very palatable.
love it.
i have drank an entire pickle jar full of fluid prior to sports events, also, to help me rehydrate after my pre-weigh-in weight cut.
provis99 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:17 AM
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2. only when I'm tired of sucking lemons.
aquart (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:19 AM
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3. Lord Byron was famous for it.
DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:20 AM
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5. And he died young!
Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-09-09 06:54 AM
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19. The medical treatment killed him!
That sounds familiar!
Death
Mavrokordatos and Byron planned to attack the Turkish-held fortress of Lepanto, at the mouth of the Gulf of Corinth. Byron employed a fire-master to prepare artillery and took part of the rebel army under his own command, despite his lack of military experience, but before the expedition could sail, on 15 February 1824, he fell ill, and the usual remedy of bleeding weakened him further. He made a partial recovery, but in early April he caught a violent cold which therapeutic bleeding, insisted on by his doctors, aggravated. It is suspected this treatment, carried out with unsterilized medical instrumentation, may have caused him to develop sepsis. He developed a violent fever, and died on 19 April. It has been said that had Byron lived, he might have been declared King of Greece.<12>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gordon_Byron,_6th_B...
silverweb (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:19 AM
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4. Honey and vinegar.
It's my favorite cough or sore throat remedy -- equal parts of honey and apple cider vinegar, warm, sipped slowly.
Also, a honey and apple cider vinegar salad dressing is one of my favorites.
Just drinking vinegar plain... not so much.
BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:20 AM
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6. Yes.. I use Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar.
I also give it to my cats and go..mix it in their food. 1 Tablespoon.
I use it for salad dressings and mix it with water to drink.
The usual recommendation is 2 teaspoons per 8oz of water...sip slowly
check here...and google to find more info.
http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html
Another reason primitives should be banned from owning live pets.
The only foreign object franksolich puts into the water for the cats here is a couple of drops of grapefruit seed extract, per gallon of water. None of the cats here have the renal problems associated with a lack of water.
moobu2 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:20 AM
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7. I tried it mixed with honey recently
It was still to strong for me. I took it every day for about a week but gave up on it and never noticed any benefit. Maybe I didn't take it long enough.
elocs (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:21 AM
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8. I cannot find time in the day to do and eat everything that is healthy for me.
The list is long and there is always something new added to it tomorrow.
But I'll bet the primitive finds plenty of time in the day to consume things laden with sugar and chocolate.
enlightenment (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:27 AM
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9. Yes, Braggs. 1 tsp in about 2.5 ounces of water - drink it like a shot, followed by more water (vinegar on your teeth is not a great idea in the long run). Do it first thing in the morning and two or three times more during the day.
You can add a little raw honey (or try a little agave nectar) if you really can't tolerate the taste. Cold water is easier for me to bear than warm, but some people the opposite is true.
I have GERD and started taking it when my stomach acts up. Stops the pain immediately, usually - sometimes a tsp of baking soda added will do the trick. I rarely have issues with the stomach anymore though . . . I think because of the vinegar.
It is a great way to start the day, actually (and yes, I have a cup of coffee after that - I'm not a martyr) - and it cuts sugar cravings, which is a problem for me.
Oh man, there go the primitives again, using acronyms as if it's "cute" to talk in "code."
What the Hell is "GERD"?
valerief (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:31 AM
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10. Via salads.
snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:43 AM
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11. After using white vinegar and water as a gargle for a very sore throat, I'm a believer that it is healthful. The gargle was way more soothing and effective than salt and water.
Anyway I did qite a bit of googling about vinegar after that and one informative site is the Vinegar Institute which has links to interesting vinegar research.
http://www.versatilevinegar.org/researchnews.html
rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 01:00 AM
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12. No and why would you?
The defrocked warped primitive, whose temperament and attitude makes vinegar look sweet:
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 01:02 AM
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13. Switchel is an old fasioned vinegar drink usually made with cider vinegar that's really refreshing in summertime. Once lemons were more widely available, lemonade took over and the tradition was lost.
Here's one recipe: http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/switchel.htm
The banal anal primitive:
annabanana (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 01:21 PM
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16. HEY! Thanks for the hillbilly housewife link.. What a fun site..
many a good man (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 03:47 PM
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18. I was going to recommend switchel!
I make a simpler recipe by the glass from an old article in Mother Earth News.
1 tsp. honey
1 tsp. apple cider vinegar
1 tsp. lemon
Swirl these ingredients around and fill the glass to the top with cold water and mix.
You can modify the amounts slightly to taste.
It actually tastes pretty good. It was recommended to me after I noticed some calcium deposits accumulating on my knuckles. After a few months of drinking one or two glasses a day they went away.
Orrex (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 08:37 AM
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14. I drink it every Easter
After we're done dyeing eggs.
tinrobot (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 09:28 AM
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15. What's the reason for drinking it?
grasswire (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 01:50 PM
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17. I thought I would start it...
....because it reportedly helps with heartburn AND helps to regulate blood sugar.
laughingliberal (988 posts) Mon Nov-09-09 09:09 AM
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20. I started using Apple Cider Vinegar for a chronic sinus infection
After several years of having to take Levaquinn 2 to 3 times per year for sinus infections, I had just become fed up. I had just finished a 2 week course of antibiotics and the infection was already coming back. In desperation I went online and did a search for natural remedies for sinus infections. I found a boatload of endorsements for ACV for this condition. I started using 2 tbs per day in a glass of water and it started improving almost immediately. After about 2 weeks it was still not completely cleared up (although much improved) so I looked for more answers. I found information on virgin coconut oil and added 2 tbs per day to that. Another week and the infection was gone. Did not have another sinus infection for 3 years. Started on the ACV and virgin coconut oil right away and, within a week, gone. I find the smell of the ACV offensive and, so, do not use it unless I need it but I do find it helpful on the days when my fibromyalgia pain gets unbearable that it helps a lot, usually improves about 10 minutes after I take it. There is something about the malic acid metabolizing the lactic acid which has built up in the muscles, or so I've heard. Not sure why it works but it does and that's what matters to me.
elleng (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-12-09 05:15 AM
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22. Thanks for this.
Will suggest to my daughter.
kjackson227 (935 posts) Mon Nov-09-09 11:47 AM
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21. Vinegar is supposed to help with diabetes and weight control...
They do make a supplement, but I'm not sure if it works as well as the real stuff.
Hmmm. One wonders if vinegar would help the Vegas blimp.
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Couple of things . . .
paulsby (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-08-09 12:16 AM
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1. (blah, blah, blah) i drink the solution that the dills brine in. it's vinegar, but it has some extra flavor. i find it very palatable.
love it.
Explains a lot.
Also, Coach, GERD is GastroEsophageal Reflux Disease. I have had it. Caused a bleeding ulcer that damn near killed me almost four years ago.
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That's terrible, Saint. I can't imagine dumping a gulpful of vinegar on top of a bleeding ulcer. Reading this thread made me feel dyspeptic.
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Couple of things . . .
Explains a lot.
Also, Coach, GERD is GastroEsophageal Reflux Disease. I have had it. Caused a bleeding ulcer that damn near killed me almost four years ago.
Well, why the Hell don't the primitives call it "Gastro Esophageal Reflux Disease" then?
Are the words too long for the primitives to spell?
I think the primitives think it's "cute" to use acronyms instead of words.
Actually, it's pretty stupid.
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Well, why the Hell don't the primitives call it "Gastro Esophageal Reflux Disease" then?
Are the words too long for the primitives to spell?
I think the primitives think it's "cute" to use acronyms instead of words.
Actually, it's pretty stupid.
Geeze coach, as usual it appears the dummies got it all wrong. Why just this weekend I had some real nice Draft Cider out of the Green Mountain State. I am here to tell you it will cure what ails ya. At 5% the first couple bottles deliver a nice kick, but adding the next four ( sold in six packs ) will flat clean house.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Woodchucklogo.jpg)
'Taint cheap, I think I paid $7.99 for a six pack.
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Some folks add apple cider vinegar to their horses' water...as an insect repellant. Is that why the dummies drink it?
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Vinegar and water? I knew most of them were douche bags but this takes the cake!
AM. We tried the cider vinegar and water on the horses but it didn't work that well. So we went back to the citronella shampoo and some skin so soft cut with water. Never saw a fly on them.
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Vinegar and water? I knew most of them were douche bags but this takes the cake!
:lmao:
Well said!
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DUchebags has a well deserved meaning.
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Yeesh, stupid DUmmies, it's Balsamic Vinegar you want to do a small shot of.
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Yeesh, stupid DUmmies, it's Balsamic Vinegar you want to do a small shot of.
"Toots" works for an outfit that uses 200 grain Balsamic. The stuff is an exceptional weed killer! Just sayin'.
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Geeze coach, as usual it appears the dummies got it all wrong. Why just this weekend I had some real nice Draft Cider out of the Green Mountain State. I am here to tell you it will cure what ails ya. At 5% the first couple bottles deliver a nice kick, but adding the next four ( sold in six packs ) will flat clean house.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Woodchucklogo.jpg)
'Taint cheap, I think I paid $7.99 for a six pack.
My favorite...
(http://www.jonco48.com/blog/dickens_20cider.jpg)
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It's a diuretic.
Also works to rinse hair with it....removes shampoo build up and tangles.
Can't imagine taking it for GERD.....pouring more acid on top of acid indigestion sounds incredibly painful on something that's already painful enough to make one think they are having a heart attack....
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My favorite...
(http://www.jonco48.com/blog/dickens_20cider.jpg)
I am a Hornsby's girl myself.
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I am a Horny girl myself.
:o
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:o
Mr. Bunny. Why you always pickin on me?
:p
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Mr. Bunny. Why you always pickin on me?
:p
Nothing personal. It's what bunnies do.
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Nothing personal. It's what bunnies do.
hmmmmmmm........maybe I ought to make sure I don't leave things too easy for ya then. :tongue:
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It does work for some heartburn. However, I like baking soda better.
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Yeesh, stupid DUmmies, it's Balsamic Vinegar you want to do a small shot of.
Love Balsamic Vinegar - It really does wonders for a sore throat.. I also have a peculiar allergy to certain fruits - cherries especially. If I eat them and they result in throat itchiness or swelling, Balsamic Vinegar neutralizes it.
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This is what I was told about ACV and heart burn.
Some times the stomach gets sluggish and peptide production slows. With out Peptides acid builds up and OH Lord incredible pain. You take your Tums and that horrid pink stuff to replace the peptides not being produced naturally.
When ACV and a full glass of water are drank, the acid is a kick in the butt to the stomach, it revs up and produces its own peptides--- Often the pain goes away in less then 5 minutes. If the pain gets worse, head for the ER, there is something bad going on.
ACV also makes the body alkaline and bacteria don't survive well. When you mix in pure Honey to the mix you have a natural antibiotic.
Lots of old time cures out there, Honey never spoils, vases of the stuff have been found in 3,000 year old Tombs in Egypt. Still eatable. Honey prevents infection in burns ,cuts and most any open wound.
Before refrigeration ACV was used to stop food poisoning, Feminine hygiene and control contraception.
Example, I had a 90 something old patient that put 2 table spoons of ACV in water and drank it before breakfast. One day I was checking on her and I had a very bad attack of Gird. It was that old lady who changed our relationship, she became the Nurse and insisted I drink her concoction, ACV and water. Amazing with in a few minutes the pain went away------Who would of thunk it.?
In the south I have seen people put tobacco on wasp stings, I carry a bottle of MSG when I swim in warm ocean water, the sting from Jelly fish goes away right smartly.
People with heart problems are told to take an aspirin every day. Woman today are told that if they have heart burn and their Jaw aches to take and aspirin and head for the hospital. We are only now exploring the different benefits of that miraculous little pill.
There are theory's out there that tell of why the cultures that eat hot peppers seldom get ulcers. This they believe is why when people from another culture eat hot and spicy food get heart burn, if they ate it every day no problem.
Gives new meaning to the Spice Wars when spices were worth more then gold.