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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: bijou on September 29, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
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“I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like ‘You know what, this guy’s going to give me a hundred years in jail I’m not staying,’ so that’s why he left.â€
Video here: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/28/whoopi-defends-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape/
Just when you think the left can't sink any lower.
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The one thing about Whoopi is that you always have to remember that whenever she says something, she's talking with her anus.
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I think Whoopi Goldberg perfectly captured the mindset behind Polanski's run from the law. Where Miss Goldberg goes awry is in her thinking it was a reasonable reaction by Mr. Polanski. Ordinary normal people would be repulsed.
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Wow.
Just when I thought we had happened across an issue where left and right could find consensus - that drugging and raping a 13-year old girl and then fleeing to Europe to escape punishment is morally reprehensible - I'm proven stunningly wrong.
FOAD, rape apologists. ES, then FOAD.
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What I never understood in all this is how they can jive with their beloved feminism where a man even blinks an eye at a woman and she has been raped, however if a good leftist director who suffered tragedy in his life drugs and has sex with a 13 year old girl, it's not 'rape-rape'. :whatever: Quite the contrary, if ever there was a case for a prosecution of rape; this is it. She was THIRTEEN! 16 I can see them arguing, but 13? A lot of girls haven't even started menses at that age.
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Using the same mentality, she should be ok with Afghanistan, because it isn't "war-war?"
Good GAWD!
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"rape-rape"??? What is that? Clinton-speak?
These people make my stomach turn.
wonder how Whoopi would feel if it were her daughter that got violated.
Sheeze
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What I never understood in all this is how they can jive with their beloved feminism where a man even blinks an eye at a woman and she has been raped, however if a good leftist director who suffered tragedy in his life drugs and has sex with a 13 year old girl, it's not 'rape-rape'. :whatever: Quite the contrary, if ever there was a case for a prosecution of rape; this is it. She was THIRTEEN! 16 I can see them arguing, but 13? A lot of girls haven't even started menses at that age.
That is what kills me about their logic twisting. If a college girl decided to drink in excess and sleep with a guy, then regretted it in the morning and called rape, all the liberal feminists would be up in arms in support of her. But when a liberal director gets a young teenager drunk, gives her drugs, then has sex with her against her wishes with no consent at all, even if she had been able to give consent, it isn't really rape :mental: :banghead:
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I watched this yesterday.
The clip has sort of been taken out of context and ends before the whole thing....what Whoopi was trying to get across, was that Polanski was not found guilty of rape. Her point was that they (the women on the show) could not say - on tv - that Polanski was "found guilty of RAPE" ...when that was not true.
He was found guilty of improper behavior with a minor child or something like that....she had a earpiece that was telling her exactly what it was he was found guilty of....and I can't remember the exact wording. That what he did...while it was rape....it was done with the mother's knowledge. Sick yes....disgusting yes. So yes is was rape....but it wasn't a rape that was the type of rape where some beast grabs a woman as she's walking to her car, knocks her around and rapes her. And apparently the California court thought that because the mother agreed to it, the kid was drugged and SUPPOSEDLY didn't protest or seem upset about it....it was more a "statutory rape" which is consensual.
If someone says something like that (on TV)----"Polanski was found guilty of rape" ----- and he actually wasn't...they can be sued for slander. That's why whenever someone is talking about someone who has been arrested....they must say the person ALLEDGEDLY did such and such.
Whoopi also said that the girl was there with her mother's permission and that she thought the girl's mother should have been arrested for endangering her child, too. She was not excusing Polanski in any way....
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Ok. Glad you cleared that up. Still doesn't make me like her, but I don't feel that she was as much of a lunkhead yesterday as I originally thought.
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Whoopi also said that the girl was there with her mother's permission and that she thought the girl's mother should have been arrested for endangering her child, too.
I agree with Whoopi on something! Is the world coming to an end?
I think Polanski pled guilty to Unlawful Sexual Contact with a Minor, or something along those lines.
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Rape-rape? WTF? :mental:
Just as an aside, does anyone know if Polanski is actually a lib? I wouldn't defend him no matter what his political leanings are, I'm just curious.
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Rape-rape? WTF? :mental:
Just as an aside, does anyone know if Polanski is actually a lib? I wouldn't defend him no matter what his political leanings are, I'm just curious.
I expect so judging by his pals.
Release Polanski, demands petition by film industry luminaries
Woody Allen, David Lynch and Martin Scorsese add their names to a petition urging the immediate release of the director from detention in Zurich
Woody Allen, David Lynch and Martin Scorsese today added their names to a petition demanding the immediate release of Roman Polanski from detention in Zurich. The director was arrested on Saturday over a three-decade-old underage sex case when he arrived to receive a lifetime achievement award at the city's film festival.
"Film-makers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision," says the petition, which is co-ordinated by the Société des Auteurs et Compositeurs Dramatiques (SACD), a film industry organisation which also represents performance and visual artists.
"It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary film-makers, is used by police to apprehend him," it adds.
The petition has now been signed by more than 70 film industry luminaries, including Polanski's fellow directors Michael Mann, Wim Wenders, Pedro Almodóvar, Darren Aronofsky, Terry Gilliam, Julian Schnabel, the Dardenne brothers, Alejandro González Iñárritu, Wong Kar-Wai, Walter Salles and Jonathan Demme. Actors Tilda Swinton, Monica Bellucci and Asia Argento, as well as producer Harvey Weinstein, have also put their names on the petition. Yesterday, Weinstein stated he was "calling on every film-maker we can to help fix this terrible situation". ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-petition
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What I never understood in all this is how they can jive with their beloved feminism where a man even blinks an eye at a woman and she has been raped, however if a good leftist director who suffered tragedy in his life drugs and has sex with a 13 year old girl, it's not 'rape-rape'. :whatever: Quite the contrary, if ever there was a case for a prosecution of rape; this is it. She was THIRTEEN! 16 I can see them arguing, but 13? A lot of girls haven't even started menses at that age.
What are you talking about? she wanted to have sex. Did you see the way she was dressed? She was "experienced."
He did nothing wrong. Quaaludes, alcohol, 13 year olds and adult men? happens everyday in the land of la-la. Get with the program sister. :whatever:*
*yes, this was sarcasm, and yes I will never stop throwing up that ANYONE would defend this total POS -- he HAD SEX WITH A 13 YEAR OLD!!! WTF is wrong with people if they aren't disgusted to the core by that????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1977: Roman Polanski charged with rape
Film director Roman Polanski has been charged with raping a 13-year-old girl at the home of Hollywood star Jack Nicholson.
The 43-year-old, who is out on bail, will appear in a Los Angeles court next week.
He could receive a prison sentence of up to 50 years if he is found guilty.
Polanski is facing four charges including rape, sodomy, child molestation and giving drugs to a minor.
According to Los Angeles Police, the rape took place after a photograph shoot at Mr Nicholson's home.
Polanski was later arrested at a hotel in Beverley Hills after the child's mother went to the police.
She said that her daughter had been taken to the Nicholson home on the understanding that she was being photographed for the French edition of Vogue.
But the mother later revealed that her 13-year-old child had been raped.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/11/newsid_4265000/4265617.stm
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I expect so judging by his pals. http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-petition
Thanks, bijou.
I generally assume that anyone from Hollywood is a lib unless I hear differently.
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I vaguely remember reading the court docs on thesmokinggun and it was pretty hard to read and it made my blood boil. I'll have to go back and see if I can find it.
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As I was getting ready for work, I saw a clip of Debra Winger, who is "president" of some film industry organization, defending Polanski, using phrases like "thirty years ago" and "technicality". I was SO CRAZY MAD that all the way to work in my car, I wondered what would happen if someone created a website, posting pictures of the children and granchildren of all the Polanski apologists in Hollywood and making it a sort of "Match.com" for pedophiles.... after all, their parents and granparents think its fine if they have sex with older men. I would like the shoe to be on their collective feet, and see how they feel about it then.
Then I got to work and shook off the rage. Hollywood Asshats.
Oh, and some Swiss official said that he appreciated the artisic talents of America, but this was "her dark side". For him, I wish a painful bout of food poisoning.
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If Roman Polanski was a Catholic priest instead of a Hollywood insider, liberals would be screaming for his head.
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Whoopi is a nutcase. What has Roman Polanski done since 1977? Hopefully, Global Warming and/or a massive earthquake will flood out and destroy Hollyweird. :evillaugh:
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If it wasn't really "Rape-Rape" then I would like to commit "Not Really Assault-Assault" on this dumb bitch with a blow torch and an aligator. It would be okay because she is kind of asking for it, right? :whatever:
**** Whoopi with a dumptruck fulla broken bottles.
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She must never seen what rape does to a woman or girl I hope it is never on her door step
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What has Roman Polanski done since 1977?
He won an Oscar in 2002, Best Director for "The Pianist".
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I just watched Whoppie on the View if you would have seen her trying to defend what she said it was quite funny.
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I've seen all of Roman Polanski's films. He's not that great of a director.
Hope he gets what he deserves. Great director or not.
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Leave it to Hollyweird to defend the indefensible. After all, Whoopie Goldberg is considered to be one of their greatest "voices" - a woman who dabbled in prostitution, has recurring addictions to every drug imaginable, and has had seven abortions throughout her life.
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She said today the only molesting she had happen is the times she did it to herself and still does to herself. I can see why yuck!
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I watched this yesterday.
The clip has sort of been taken out of context and ends before the whole thing....what Whoopi was trying to get across, was that Polanski was not found guilty of rape. Her point was that they (the women on the show) could not say - on tv - that Polanski was "found guilty of RAPE" ...when that was not true.
He was found guilty of improper behavior with a minor child or something like that....she had a earpiece that was telling her exactly what it was he was found guilty of....and I can't remember the exact wording. That what he did...while it was rape....it was done with the mother's knowledge. Sick yes....disgusting yes. So yes is was rape....but it wasn't a rape that was the type of rape where some beast grabs a woman as she's walking to her car, knocks her around and rapes her. And apparently the California court thought that because the mother agreed to it, the kid was drugged and SUPPOSEDLY didn't protest or seem upset about it....it was more a "statutory rape" which is consensual.
If someone says something like that (on TV)----"Polanski was found guilty of rape" ----- and he actually wasn't...they can be sued for slander. That's why whenever someone is talking about someone who has been arrested....they must say the person ALLEDGEDLY did such and such.
Whoopi also said that the girl was there with her mother's permission and that she thought the girl's mother should have been arrested for endangering her child, too. She was not excusing Polanski in any way....
Some things you have wrong.
He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.
Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun. She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.
What ever happened to "no means no"?
She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.
This was rape, pure and simple.
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Some things you have wrong.
He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.
Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun. She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.
What ever happened to "no means no"?
She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.
This was rape, pure and simple.
The balls of that man, the bloody nerve, not Polanski but Woody Allen to sign that partition in favor of Polanski.
Sort of like Ted Bundy writing a plea to the court for leniency for Jeffery Domar.
Now I am of the mind that a female of any age has the right to say NO. If they are 85 years old in a coma that does not give anyone the right to have sex with them because the old lady never resisted in any way.
If a female is drunk, drugged, in a coma, is scared to death to resist, she cannot give consent and that is rape-rape.
A 45 year old man who is world famous gets the mothers consent to film her 13 year old daughter at the home of a major Hollywood star. Somehow mother does not accompany her daughter feeling she is good hands. I mean really what could happen to her daughter being in the company of people known world wide. This could mean a big break for her child ,who knows, the sky is the limit.
Daughter comes home and tells about being drugged, plied with Champagne and having sex with the old fart.
Mom heads out for the police as fast as she can and puts in a complaint.
Now I heard Woopie ask " Where was the mother.?" Like it was the mothers fault, she should go to jail but leave the rapist alone, not his fault the mother was not there.
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Some things you have wrong.
He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.
Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun. She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.
What ever happened to "no means no"?
She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.
This was rape, pure and simple.
I'M not saying it wasn't rape.
I said above He was found guilty of improper behavior with a minor child or something like that....she had a earpiece that was telling her exactly what it was he was found guilty of....and I can't remember the exact wording
I was repeating what happened on THE VIEW.....
Vesta says.....
Now I heard Woopie ask " Where was the mother.?" Like it was the mothers fault, she should go to jail but leave the rapist alone, not his fault the mother was not there.
Any mother who lets her 13 yo daughter go into a situation like that ....as far as I'm concerned is negligent and responsible for what happened to the child!!
There is no way on God's little green earth, that I would have let my 13 yo daughter be alone for a "photo shoot" with a 40 something yo man!
I didn't let my 13 yo daughter go alone into an examining room with a doctor...why would I let her be alone with anyone else?
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
He has not been convicted of rape, but the description of the crime makes it obvious that it was rape. He gave alcohol and drugs to a 13 year old girl, then had sex with her after she said no. Under who's definition of rape is that not rape?
You, and everybody else who is defending Polanski, is disgusting for attempting to defend behavior that is quite simply indefensible. I don't care how much time has passed. He spent the last 30 years partying it up in Europe, why should I have sympathy for him?
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He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
The only reason 30 years passed is because Polanski ditched out from serving his time for a crime he was convicted of, you moron! This isn't about reoffending at this point, it is about serving the time(punishment if you will) for your crime. What good is the punishment handed out to someone if they are rich and quick enough to get out of the country before they can serve it?
Your 18/17 year old mumbo jumbo is just that. He was a mature man in his 40's who plyed a THIRTEEN year old girl with alcohol and drugs. That's not quite the same as a couple of teenagers knocking boots in the back of the car and daddy gets pissed because he doesn't like 18 year old boyfriend and files charges. That you can make a moral equivalence like that speaks more for your character and broken sense of morality then anything.
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He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.
Are you serious? My God, there are people in this country who truly are broken, in their minds at least.
Just one point because your 'sins of the US' thing is just too ridiculous to address:
It's funny how you talk about 'real criminals'. You mean the type that abuse their power and financial status for their own personal gain or benefit? You mean kind of like a rich liberal director with ties who can use his power and influence to skip out of the country before he serves his sentence for violating a child? Hmmmmm...you have a point;-)
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The only reason 30 years passed is because Polanski ditched out from serving his time for a crime he was convicted of, you moron! This isn't about reoffending at this point, it is about serving the time(punishment if you will) for your crime. What good is the punishment handed out to someone if they are rich and quick enough to get out of the country before they can serve it?
Your 18/17 year old mumbo jumbo is just that. He was a mature man in his 40's who plyed a THIRTEEN year old girl with alcohol and drugs. That's not quite the same as a couple of teenagers knocking boots in the back of the car and daddy gets pissed because he doesn't like 18 year old boyfriend and files charges. That you can make a moral equivalence like that speaks more for your character and broken sense of morality then anything.
Exactly. There's a reason the law is written to protest children from predators. And yes, any grown man who does what Polanski did to a 13 year old girl is preying on her.
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He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.
Wow, you covered a lot of talking points. Yawn. :whatever:
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You know, I'm not surprised that liberals are defending Polanski. This is the same group that thought it was funny when David Letterman made a joke about Gov. Palin's 14 year old daughter having sex with a baseball player. I assure you that if you ask most libs, and they're honest about it, they believe Age of Consent laws shouldn't exist.
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
Well okay.
In addition to Whoopie, **** YOU with a dump truck fulla broken bottles.
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Whoopie is nuanced, you cretins.
LibtardDUmbassmode........off.
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
So you think the number of people in support of him should be the determining factor and not the truth? Wow, just WOW. You would have made a good li'l Nazi. 18 on 17 and 40 on 13 is apples and poisoned oranges. FAIL.
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
So, if you, at the age of 13, were given illegal drugs and alcohol, and despite saying NO a number of times, was still anally violated, you wouldn't consider that rape?
And yeah, it IS right to convict someone of a crime. It's wrong to run for 30 years. Justice delayed is justice denied.
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Yep, and Ira Einhorn and Mumia Abul Jamal (two other heroes of the left) are getting a bum rap, too.
I'm the father of young daughters. He needs to be in jail. Not freaking celebrated by you idiots.
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He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.
:bigbird: :lies: :loser2: :blah:
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:o Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.
Uh, Polanski must face the music like anyone else accused of rape.
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Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us
Please explain.
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People you are missing the point, It was obviously consensual and this forcible thing is just a made up attempt of those in the right to destort the truth, I don't see why so many people would be supporting him if he were truly wrong, why would they put their carrers on the line, btw I am originally from Philadelphia and later moved to NJ, however I don't support Mumia he shouldnt be in jail if he cant be proven to have killed the officer, imagine if it was you and you were framed for murder, it would suck, but I really think mumia did do it, however it is just like the OJ case, but the only reason OJ got away with murder was becuase of his celebrity status Mumia wasn't famous and thats why he is in jail.
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People you are missing the point, It was obviously consensual and this forcible thing is just a made up attempt of those in the right to destort the truth, I don't see why so many people would be supporting him if he were truly wrong, why would they put their carrers on the line, btw I am originally from Philadelphia and later moved to NJ, however I don't support Mumia he shouldnt be in jail if he cant be proven to have killed the officer, imagine if it was you and you were framed for murder, it would suck, but I really think mumia did do it, however it is just like the OJ case, but the only reason OJ got away with murder was becuase of his celebrity status Mumia wasn't famous and thats why he is in jail.
It was obviously consensual? Are you a ****ing retard? First off, it was NOT consensual. Secondly, a Damn 13 year old cannot consent to sex with an adult.
Do you try to be this ****in' stupid?
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This idiot is a mole, people. No way in hell someone can be this stupid.
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So everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Try having a real debate instead of avoiding the facts and resorting to name calling. This policital tactic is dead, this is how they destoryed Clinton, guess you guys would have never guessed he was going to be such a great president, admired by all.
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So everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Try having a real debate instead of avoiding the facts and resorting to name calling. This policital tactic is dead, this is how they destoryed Clinton, guess you guys would have never guessed he was going to be such a great president, admired by all.
It's you who is avoiding facts, you f'n moron.
BTW, Clinton wasn't "destroyed". He served the maximum of two terms as President of the United States. ...and no, he wasn't that great of a f'n president, but with the Kenyan in office, Clinton looks like a f'n genius.
She was raped. She stated as much. She begged to go home. He wouldn't let her. He raped her anally and vaginally. That's in the testimony, you stupid, wet-behind-the-ears bitch.
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So everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Try having a real debate instead of avoiding the facts and resorting to name calling. This policital tactic is dead, this is how they destoryed Clinton, guess you guys would have never guessed he was going to be such a great president, admired by all.
Tell ya what--have someone ply you with drugs and alcohol and then, after you've said "NO" several times, have forcible vaginal and anal sex with you.
Then see how it feels when someone tells you that you weren't raped.
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I can see the point that Whoopster is trying to make, that statutory rape and "rape-rape" aren't equal.
Problem is, she was thirteen! This isn't some crap where a sixteen year old has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend and gets arrested. This was a creepy old guy drugging a child.
One should be in jail. The other should get his ass kicked by his father.
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I can see the point that Whoopster is trying to make, that statutory rape and "rape-rape" aren't equal.
Problem is, she was thirteen! This isn't some crap where a sixteen year old has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend and gets arrested. This was a creepy old guy drugging a child.
One should be in jail. The other should get his ass kicked by his father.
This was not statutory rape. It was non-consensual.
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I can see the point that Whoopster is trying to make, that statutory rape and "rape-rape" aren't equal.
Problem is, she was thirteen! This isn't some crap where a sixteen year old has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend and gets arrested. This was a creepy old guy drugging a child.
One should be in jail. The other should get his ass kicked by his father.
Again, what part of "NO" confuses you?
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I can see the point that Whoopster is trying to make, that statutory rape and "rape-rape" aren't equal.
Problem is, she was thirteen! This isn't some crap where a sixteen year old has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend and gets arrested. This was a creepy old guy drugging a child.
One should be in jail. The other should get his ass kicked by his father.
It was outright rape right there.
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You're right, I missed that part. That'll teach me to skim things :uhsure:
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I'M not saying it wasn't rape.
I said above
I was repeating what happened on THE VIEW.....
Vesta says.....
Any mother who lets her 13 yo daughter go into a situation like that ....as far as I'm concerned is negligent and responsible for what happened to the child!!
There is no way on God's little green earth, that I would have let my 13 yo daughter be alone for a "photo shoot" with a 40 something yo man!
I didn't let my 13 yo daughter go alone into an examining room with a doctor...why would I let her be alone with anyone else?
Deb molestation of children usually does not include strangers that sweep them off the street.
Molestation by prevs usually comes after a period to watching a child and being in every day contact with the child be it a neighbor, friend, teacher or dance instructor.
Sure there are crazes that act on impulse, snatch a child off the street a complete stranger to them.
The people that do the most damage are those that the child trusts. The people their parents trust, family member, teacher or friend of parents or the clergy.
The ramifications of having a child molested does not end with the child you know. If the child is molested by those they know, the guilt and 20/20 hind sight for the family is huge.
For the rest of their lives parents will heap guilt onto themselves for not seeing or recognising the danger their child is in. Every bad thing that happens to that child in life will bring a guilt feeling of would this have happend if I done something different.
Question of why didn't I see or know of the danger to my child, comes about that the parents then blame themselves for the molestation and not the molester.
This is not off topic, but here in the USA we have these family's that live through their children. The parents that pay thousands of dollars a year to put their 3-6 year old little girls in beauty Pageants dressed up to look like a mini-hore.
In no way are they considering their kids will be molested, the kids love to dress up and perform. Kids are HAMS love attention.
These are the innocent parents that refuse to see the dark side of life, those that did the same thing as a child with no problem, they turn a deaf ear to anything they themselves never experienced.
Parents are human, can be manipulated by those that are monsters under their cloak of responsibility and reputation.
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Deb molestation of children usually does not include strangers that sweep them off the street.
I have a couple of friends who were molested as children. One by her father, the other by one of her father's trusted employees.
I don't think it's possible to ever recover from the situations that both of these woment were in.....though both have been through intense therapy....
Domestic violence is hard enough to live with....I cannot imagine the effects of sexual abuse, I don't think anyone can truly comprehend what the survivor goes through - either the act itself or what it does to the psyche.... :(
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If it wasn't rape and it wasn't rape-rape....what I want to know is, what is
rape-rape-rape.
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If it wasn't rape and it wasn't rape-rape....what I want to know is, what is
rape-rape-rape.
murder....
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If it wasn't rape and it wasn't rape-rape....what I want to know is, what is
rape-rape-rape.
Raping your rapist?
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Raping your rapist?
If we can't have the BS button back, how about a proverbial kick in the balls?
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Consensual, huh? Does this (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html) sound consensual to you?
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Dumbassvoice, you are stupid. That is not because I can't find facts to make your claims look incredibly ignorant, but because you are stupid.
Your kind of stupid makes my brain hurt. Your special stupidity makes puppies die. Your incredible stupidity makes the Dalai Lama want to strangle babies as they are born to make sure they can never grow up to be as stupid as you are. You should sue any school that promoted you past first grade. You should smack the living shit out of yourself for being so freaking stupid. If there was an award for stupidest poster in the entire internet you would win, and the rest of the nominees would kill themselves knowing that they could never ever be as stupid as you are.
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Dumbassvoice, you are stupid. That is not because I can't find facts to make your claims look incredibly ignorant, but because you are stupid.
Your kind of stupid makes my brain hurt. Your special stupidity makes puppies die. Your incredible stupidity makes the Dalai Lama want to strangle babies as they are born to make sure they can never grow up to be as stupid as you are. You should sue any school that promoted you past first grade. You should smack the living shit out of yourself for being so freaking stupid. If there was an award for stupidest poster in the entire internet you would win, and the rest of the nominees would kill themselves knowing that they could never ever be as stupid as you are.
Dang Mama....you are gooood! :bow:
High 5!!!!
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Dumbassvoice, you are stupid. That is not because I can't find facts to make your claims look incredibly ignorant, but because you are stupid.
Your kind of stupid makes my brain hurt. Your special stupidity makes puppies die. Your incredible stupidity makes the Dalai Lama want to strangle babies as they are born to make sure they can never grow up to be as stupid as you are. You should sue any school that promoted you past first grade. You should smack the living shit out of yourself for being so freaking stupid. If there was an award for stupidest poster in the entire internet you would win, and the rest of the nominees would kill themselves knowing that they could never ever be as stupid as you are.
Wow. I stand (type) in awe. :bow:
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Or I could just repeat this:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,33624.msg354855.html#msg354855
You're a 1-bit brain with a parity error.
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say here, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather blow a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world.
An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.
You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.
May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you.
You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease. You are a puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.
You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid.
Your writing has to be a troll.
Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on.
This is an epiphany of stupid for me.
After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything.
Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult.
If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
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I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid.
Your writing has to be a troll.
Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on.
This is an epiphany of stupid for me.
This part I have seen before. Glad to have the opportunity to read it in its entirety. Classic.