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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Thor on July 29, 2009, 02:34:15 PM
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BHO allegedly uses Soc.Sec.# 042-68-xxxx of CT man born in 1890; WHY? Uses DOZENS!
We have previously posted this information but it is below the radar of all of the mainstream news media. Obama has allegedly been fraudulently using Social Security Numbers of deceased persons as his own as well scores of addresses throughout the U.S. He has allegedly used dozens of Social Security Numbers and Obama's Aunt Zeituni, illegally living in Boston, allegedly may have used one of Obama's numbers. His most frequently used Soc.Sec.# is 042-68-xxxx, originally issued to a Connecticut man born in 1890! Why? Social Security FRAUD is an issue that everyone can understand. We challenge the Mainstream Media to investigate this, and if the allegations are true, Obama should be IMPEACHED and indicted for Social Security FRAUD, identity theft, lying on official forms, etc. Thanks to mainstream media's studious non-interest in Obama's background, he is the most under-investigated President in U.S. history. Barry, We Hardly Knew Ye!
Here is a letter from Neil Sankey, a registered Calif. Private Eye and former Scotland Yard Dectective, to attorney Orly Taitz regarding research he did into the numerous Social Security numbers allegedly used by Barack Obama. His most frequently used Soc. Sec. number is 042-68-xxxx, (the first three digits ("042") indicate that it is a number issued to residents of Connecticut, a State in which Obama apparently was never a resident. The man to whom the number was originally issued was born in 1890. (See first entry below). Interestingly, none of these numbers was purportedly issued to a person residing in Hawaii. A compilation of the complete data has been filed as an Exhibit to the lawsuit filed by Major Stefan Cook v. Obama alleging Obama's Constitutional ineligibility to serve as President. Here is a link from Orly Taitz' website. Scroll down the page: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?tag=taitz . This raises lots of additional issues such as his use of aliases, such as Barry Soetoro, and the different variations of his name (below) which apparently he somehow failed to mention to the State Bar of Illinois as one of his other names.
More (http://patriotskyline.blogspot.com/2009/07/bho-allegedly-uses-socsec-042-68-xxxx.html)
I'm at a loss as to what to think of this article!!
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It's just the usual 0bama stuff.
0bama's a saint, 0bama's the messiah, so nothing to see here, move on, please.
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This has legs, barack is toast, this is hugh!!!11!
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It's just the usual 0bama stuff.
0bama's a saint, 0bama's the messiah, so nothing to see here, move on, please.
No saint in that link, frank.
More like a crook.
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Wonder how the Lib media is going to spin this one?
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Wonder how the Lib media is going to spin this one?
Easy........not cover it
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Ok clear something up for me.
Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.
Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?
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http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/firstcard.html (http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/firstcard.html)
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Ok clear something up for me.
Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.
Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?
They would have applied for one after the start of the program to collect the limited benefits of the time.
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Ok clear something up for me.
Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.
Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?
I have no opinion on this story but someone born in 1890 would get his SS# after 1936 when he was in his 40's.
My great grandma was born in in 1890 as well (August 13th to be exact) and she had a SS number.
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They would have applied for one after the start of the program to collect the limited benefits of the time.
Ok I can see that. I just assumed that the folks in their forties and up wouldn't have applied cause there'd not really be anything in the pot for them.
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Ok I can see that. I just assumed that the folks in their forties and up wouldn't have applied cause there'd not really be anything in the pot for them.
That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.
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That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.
Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.
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Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.
I had to check to be sure after saying that and hoping this page is accurate.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html
1939-41 at birth was 62.81 staying under 68 until after 1971 for white males.
The program was a sham from day one.
On edit...
You could be right as there is no indication this bill is being pushed for any caring yet misguided reasonings.
It seems to be nothing more then an idealogical push to the left for authoritarian control on a completely dependent population.
SS is running out,no two ways about it and this would provide a possible solution along with nationalizing private retirement vehicles.
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Which means by the time we qualify there will be nothing left in the pot not to mention all of our children and or grandchildren
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That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.
One needs to remember that this figure is an average, and at the time there was a much higher infant and childhood mortality rate than there is today. Those who lived into adulthood often lived almost as long as we do. So, its not quite as much of a sham as it appears because those who died young often died too young to have contributed anything to Social Security at all.
This isn't to say its not a sham, or a program that is destined to collapse under its own weight. Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.
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Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.
I've been saying that since this whole "health care" fiasco came up.
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Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.
miskie, truer words have never been spoken. :bow:
Of course, this is the entire objective of liberal/socialist politicians - strengthen the government at the expense of the people.
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One needs to remember that this figure is an average, and at the time there was a much higher infant and childhood mortality rate than there is today. Those who lived into adulthood often lived almost as long as we do. So, its not quite as much of a sham as it appears because those who died young often died too young to have contributed anything to Social Security at all.
This isn't to say its not a sham, or a program that is destined to collapse under its own weight. Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.
That is very true but using the the tables they show still illustrates that the expected payout was never very high.
Calendar period 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
1939–1941 62.81 57.03 47.76 38.80 30.03 21.96 15.05 9.42 5.38
1949–1951 66.31 58.98 49.52 40.29 31.17 22.83 15.76 10.07 5.88
1959–1961 67.55 59.78 50.25 40.98 31.73 23.22 16.01 10.29 5.89
Those are average years left once the given age was achieved.
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They're going have to means-test it, it's insustainable in its present sorry-assed condition. That is, unless euthanasia really does become par for the course.
Obama is not the only fraud out there, ne he's the highest ranking one. I have heard of this CT number, guess it's his favourite. How he secured it, who knows?
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Social security number in Hawaii start from 575-576, 750-751 digits
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/stateweb.htm
Hmmmm...
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Haven't heard this one, and don't have a clue of the validity, but if true and you're wondering how he secured it - just remember he worked for that epitome of truth and honesty - Acorn
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Haven't heard this one, and don't have a clue of the validity, but if true and you're wondering how he secured it - just remember he worked for that epitome of truth and honesty - Acorn
The most corrupt political family in Memphis is in the mortuary business. Nothing like having a steady supply of names and social security numbers available to increase a family member's chances of getting elected to one office or another.
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This is the first Ive heard of this Obama SS number issue - I did some preliminary poking about and the only correlation I can find is this same story reproduced everywhere.
At this moment, It doesn't pass the sniff test for me... But I am interested to see where it goes, and would be more than happy to be wrong.
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This is the first Ive heard of this Obama SS number issue - I did some preliminary poking about and the only correlation I can find is this same story reproduced everywhere.
At this moment, It doesn't pass the sniff test for me... But I am interested to see where it goes, and would be more than happy to be wrong.
Likewise, this just sounds like someones wet dream more then a real story.
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That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.
Not even that. In 1936, 2 of 3 people didn't live to age 65. Today, over 2 in 3 make it to that point. A person born in 1936 might have had a life expectancy of 63, but that certainly wasn't the case prior to that.
LINK (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus08.pdf#026)
It's worse than I thought. Average life expectancy for someone born in 1900 was 47 years. 33 years if you were black. In 1850, average life expectancy at birth was 38 years, mostly due to infant mortality. If you made it to age 10 in 1850, you could reasonably expect to live to the ripe old age of 58.
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Not even that. In 1936, 2 of 3 people didn't live to age 65. Today, over 2 in 3 make it to that point. A person born in 1936 might have had a life expectancy of 63, but that certainly wasn't the case prior to that.
LINK (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus08.pdf#026)
It's worse than I thought. Average life expectancy for someone born in 1900 was 47 years. 33 years if you were black. In 1850, average life expectancy at birth was 38 years, mostly due to infant mortality. If you made it to age 10 in 1850, you could reasonably expect to live to the ripe old age of 58.
Gotta wonder how much those numbers where skewed by the Civil War, and the two World Wars though.
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Gotta wonder how much those numbers where skewed by the Civil War, and the two World Wars though.
Not nearly as much as you might think.
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Not nearly as much as you might think.
Civil War, something like 700K died. WWII, about 500K. WWI far less.
Until we start talking millions of deaths, there wouldn't be much impact. Sparky's correct, I'd say.
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Civil War, something like 700K died. WWII, about 500K. WWI far less.
Until we start talking millions of deaths, there wouldn't be much impact. Sparky's correct, I'd say.
Don't forget things like the 1918 Flu Epidemic. That alone lowerd the average life expectancy in the US by 10 years.
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Don't forget things like the 1918 Flu Epidemic. That alone lowerd the average life expectancy in the US by 10 years.
Again, 500K in a nation of (at that time) 110 million. Not so much.
No, infant mortality and diseases were the big factors until the last 75 years or so. After age 5, accidents. Wars, etc, haven't had the same level of impact on life expectancy as one might expect.
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I did a people search on whitepages.com and it only turned up TWO "Barack Obamas" Obama (http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Barack+&name=Obama&where=) and eight Barack, Barrack, Borack or Brack Obamas and then a total of 41 "Obamas" http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Obama&where= I will admit that there were some blatantly fraudulent entries (3 or 4) This was a nationwide search. No entries for "Soetoro".
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I did a people search on whitepages.com and it only turned up TWO "Barack Obamas" Obama (http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Barack+&name=Obama&where=) and eight Barack, Barrack, Borack or Brack Obamas and then a total of 41 "Obamas" http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Obama&where= I will admit that there were some blatantly fraudulent entries (3 or 4) This was a nationwide search. No entries for "Soetoro".
Curiously enough when typing in Barack Obama into ZabaSearch (http://www.zabasearch.com/index.php), none show up, but it changes the search term to Michelle Obama.
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=MICHELLE%20OBAMA&state=ALL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=
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Again, 500K in a nation of (at that time) 110 million. Not so much.
No, infant mortality and diseases were the big factors until the last 75 years or so. After age 5, accidents. Wars, etc, haven't had the same level of impact on life expectancy as one might expect.
Did you miss the part where I said the Flu Pandemic alone dropped average life expectancy rates by 10 years?
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Did you miss the part where I said the Flu Pandemic alone dropped average life expectancy rates by 10 years?
What does that have to do with it? He was born in 1961. There are 4 3-digit starters for anyone born there. If he were born in Hawaii, there isn't a chance in hell he wouldn't have a SS that started with 575, 576, 750, or 751. That's 4 combinations of 9 numbers. We haven't lost that many people in all wars combined, as it's about 4 million people, if you removed the "set" 3 numbers.
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It is not "0bama committing fraud?" It is "The sun rose in the east, a postman got bit by a dog, water flows downhill and 0bama is committing fraud"
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Don't forget things like the 1918 Flu Epidemic. That alone lowerd the average life expectancy in the US by 10 years.
Can you document that? Ten years seems a little high to me.
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Don't forget things like the 1918 Flu Epidemic. That alone lowerd the average life expectancy in the US by 10 years.
At that time nearly everything was nearly an 'epidemic' .. everything that kids get immunized for killed people constantly.. Measles, mumps, scarlet fever, whooping cough, smallpox even things like pneumonia, rabies, and even botulism.
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It is not "0bama committing fraud?" It is "The sun rose in the east, a postman got bit by a dog, water flows downhill and 0bama is committing fraud"
We know that 0Bama committed perjury. He swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the US.
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I seem to remember applying for a my Social Security number when I got my first job as a teenager in the sixties We had lived in several states.
And then there is my aunt. At age 92, she has been receiving the minimum benefit since 65. She worked as a maid most of her life at minimum wage and has probably received well in excess of what she would have ever put in even at the most outrageous fictional interest rates.
Does this mean I don't believe Obi Wun is a fraud? He77 no. It is just that this smells a bit like a red herring.
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social Security Death Index (http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/) is a searchable database where you can find the SS# of a deceased person, or can find a person who is dead by their SS#.
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What does that have to do with it? He was born in 1961. There are 4 3-digit starters for anyone born there. If he were born in Hawaii, there isn't a chance in hell he wouldn't have a SS that started with 575, 576, 750, or 751. That's 4 combinations of 9 numbers. We haven't lost that many people in all wars combined, as it's about 4 million people, if you removed the "set" 3 numbers.
At the time that he was born, until the mid-80's when they started issuing SS#'s at birth, your # started with the identifier for the state you applied from, not necessarily where you were born. My sister was born in OH in 70, I was born in AL in 75, we both have SS#'s with FL identifiers.
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Can't a broffer run a simple SS scam widout all you honkies mess'n wit'im?
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Did you miss the part where I said the Flu Pandemic alone dropped average life expectancy rates by 10 years?
Said? Yes. Proven? Hardly. You might want to revisit your Statistics textbook, m'boy. 1/2 of 1 percent of a population can skew data 20 times its weighted average? Not likely.
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At the time that he was born, until the mid-80's when they started issuing SS#'s at birth, your # started with the identifier for the state you applied from, not necessarily where you were born. My sister was born in OH in 70, I was born in AL in 75, we both have SS#'s with FL identifiers.
Yup you are most correct, none of my kids got their SS# until they got part time jobs.
My son that was born in Hawaii has a SS# card that he received in NJ.
SS# numbers come from the place one first applies for one. Say a child born before 1979 in Michigan at the age of 16 comes to visit family in Fla. and wants a part time job, their SS# will show they applied in that state.
I have no idea who this Barry Soetoro is, but I do recognise the Toro in the name, Bull in Spanish. As we pronounce it.
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I did a people search on whitepages.com and it only turned up TWO "Barack Obamas" Obama (http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Barack+&name=Obama&where=) and eight Barack, Barrack, Borack or Brack Obamas and then a total of 41 "Obamas" http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Obama&where= I will admit that there were some blatantly fraudulent entries (3 or 4) This was a nationwide search. No entries for "Soetoro".
Interesting, split up the name Soe-Toro and do a separate search on both sides and you may be surprised at what you find.
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Yup you are most correct, none of my kids got their SS# until they got part time jobs.
My son that was born in Hawaii has a SS# card that he received in NJ.
SS# numbers come from the place one first applies for one. Say a child born before 1979 in Michigan at the age of 16 comes to visit family in Fla. and wants a part time job, their SS# will show they applied in that state.
I have no idea who this Barry Soetoro is, but I do recognise the Toro in the name, Bull in Spanish. As we pronounce it.
Interesting, split up the name Soe-Toro and do a separate search on both sides and you may be surprised at what you find.
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