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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on July 14, 2009, 11:44:26 PM
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First DUmmy BUnny alerts to the possibility that a democrats may outlaw dusty farms, perhaps appointing a Dust Czar.
Lagomorph (113 posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:41 PM
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EPA: Farming dust should be regulated
DES MOINES, Iowa - Nothing says summer in Iowa like a cloud of dust behind a combine.
But what may be a fact of life for farmers is a cause for concern to federal regulators, who are refusing to exempt growers from new environmental regulations.
It's left some farmers feeling bemused and more than a little frustrated.
"It's such a non-commonsense idea that you can keep dust within a property line when the wind blows," said Sen. Charles Grassley, a member of the Senate Agriculture Committee who still farms in northeast Iowa.
Under rules imposed in 2006, rural areas would be kept to the same standards as urban areas for what the Environmental Protection Agency calls "coarse particulate matter" in the air.
The American Farm Bureau Federation and the National Pork Producers Council had petitioned the government to provide an exemption to farmers. They argued that evidence of harm caused by dust in rural areas hasn't been determined.
But the U.S. District Court of Appeals in Washington ruled Tuesday that the EPA had already provided the evidence necessary to determine farm dust "likely is not safe."
Michael Formica, a lawyer for the pork council, said this means farmers face the daunting task of proving a negative - that the dust is not harmful...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6070190
DUmmy vadawg apparently does not realize that farming practices are best left to be regulated democrats inside the Beltway.
vadawg (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:44 PM
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1. what next, dust from dirt roads, i hate to break it to the EPA
but stour from fields and dust are parts of the rural experience, i wouldnt swap the dust from my farmroad for all the pollution of the DC beltway no matter what.
lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:44 PM
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2. No-till farming would help. Saves the earthworms, too.
Rarely in a discussion of agriculture does someone stop to think of worm welfare.
lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:57 PM
4. EPA needs to worry about the effects of manure pits, pesticides, fertilizers, and yes, dust. They
need to evaluate the negative effects of each. They need to provide advice on how to mitigate negative effects if possible, and decide when the negative effects are so serious as to merit steps to prevent (such as not allowing CAFOs, making certain pesticides illegal, and so on).
The communists in the Kenyan's administration should outlaw manure, pesticides, fertilizers, and yes, dust.
None of those things would be necessary if we converted our national diet to exclusively frozen and canned foods. There's never a speck of dust when you open a DiGiorno's pizza box. No manure in a can of barbecued pork, as far as I can tell.
DUmmy tularetom understands the reasons for American agriculture being so inefficient and unproductive. With more government regulation, American farmers may someday be able to feed most of the world and provide an affordable diet for the masses of starving Americans.
tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 11:14 PM
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9. Sometimes farmers need to be told what to do for their own good
like the guys who planted the same crops year after year after year until they leached all the nitrogen and phosphorus out of the soil.
And the guys who didn't practice contour planting and watched their hillsides erode away from wind and water.
Yep farmers always know better than them pointy headed intellectuals workin for the guvmint.
Farmers are the best in the world at shitting in their own food dish.
And before somebody gets in my face I was a farm kid and I still live on 40 acres of dry pasture out here.
It would all probably work a lot better if they would take all the land away from the kulaks, then have the peasant farmers band together in communes. History tells us that collectivization is the way to maximize agricultural output, and be good stewards to the planet. And remember the children. And the earthworms.
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Oh my.
And the primitives gripe about "high" grocery prices.
One wonders why that is.
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:44 PM
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2. No-till farming would help. Saves the earthworms, too.
Does this idiot have any idea what a tiller is and why it's used? I'll assume that the typical DUmmie thinks that just throwing seed on the ground will yield the same crop results as employing the latest technology concerning farming. After all, they believe that getting mold, mildew and soap scum to grow in their showers makes them farmers.
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While Michael DUkakis was campaigning to be destroyed by Bush 41 in 1988, farm prices were down. During a speech in Iowa, he seriously suggested that Iowa farmers consider converting their fields from corn and soybeans to Belgian endive. It's a good bet that not one person in his audience had ever heard of Belgian endive. In the following 21 years, democrats have become no smarter. (Believe it or not, DUkakis carried Iowa that year, but they continued to plant corn and beans.)
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Rarely in a discussion of agriculture does someone stop to think of worm welfare.
Ya gots to be kiddin'! SAVE THE WORMS???? Bwahahahahahahaha!
I farm around 80 acres of hay. Every 3 years we plant a crop to till into the soil to replace nutrients. These dipshits don't have a clue! Talk about a whole class of people that need to starve to death! I wonder how long they can live on rice cakes and tofu turkey?
sheesh, what morans!
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Oh my.
And the primitives gripe about "high" grocery prices.
One wonders why that is.
Anyone who thinks dust can be kept from blowing around is a morbidly ignorant idiot. If these people were in charge we'd soon have food shortages and bread lines.
... oh crap... they ARE in charge.
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tularetom may be a "farm kid", but he's also a total dipshit.
I doubt he'd know which end of the cow to put a feed bucket under, and which end to put a shovel under....
Probably think a cow's horns go "HONK" or "BEEP"....
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 10:44 PM
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2. No-till farming would help. Saves the earthworms, too.
OMFG! Don't these "geniuses" know that a combine is a piece of equipment used to HARVEST, not TILL!
Trust me, a lot of farmers use no-till, because it saves tons on diesel fuel, but you have to use more herbicide.
I'd love to put these DUmmies on a farm and watch them grow their own food.
They'd all starve to death within a year.
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OMFG! Don't these "geniuses" know that a combine is a piece of equipment used to HARVEST, not TILL!
Trust me, a lot of farmers use no-till, because it saves tons on diesel fuel, but you have to use more herbicide.
I'd love to put these DUmmies on a farm and watch them grow their own food.
They'd all starve to death within a year.
Just imagine the first time they had to birth a calf! Or even a kitten for that matter! Hahahahahahaha!
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Just imagine the first time they had to birth a calf! Or even a kitten for that matter! Hahahahahahaha!
Good one!
They'd be hacking and puking in no time. I wonder how many can tell if the calf is a breech or not by the way the feet are turned....
Trust me, if it's a beech, you can't get it out of the cow fast enough. Very few calves survive....
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Good one!
They'd be hacking and puking in no time. I wonder how many can tell if the calf is a breech or not by the way the feet are turned....
Trust me, if it's a beech, you can't get it out of the cow fast enough. Very few calves survive....
I generally just hook 'em up to a come-a-long! Happens real fast! Usually will save mama and baby!
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I generally just hook 'em up to a come-a-long! Happens real fast! Usually will save mama and baby!
Daddy made a gadget like the vet had....and I was pulling calves at age 10 or 12. ....puking the whole time tho. Nothing like trying to eat breakfast after being shoulder deep in a cows ass.
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Daddy made a gadget like the vet had....and I was pulling calves at age 10 or 12. ....puking the whole time tho. Nothing like trying to eat breakfast after being shoulder deep in a cows ass.
I know watcha mean! I "pulled" my first calf when I was 10! It got easier as time went on. Now It's just something that has to be done.
As a matter of fact my grandaughter, who is 12 (almost 13, according to her), helped me with the last one. She didn't have a problem at all, she'd seen plenty before. Could be ya just need a little education beforehand so it's not so traumatic.
edited cause I can't spell traumatic LOL
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Just ban dirt from farms. That will solve the dust problem. :thatsright:
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May I offer a round of applause for our gentlemen farmers here who help in cows giving birth and saving mother and baby? You guys are the salt of the earth. Not the dust, like the DUmmies.
Incidentally, my stepdaughter is at this moment having a baby, so I just had to comment. :-)
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Incidentally, my stepdaughter is at this moment having a baby, so I just had to comment. :-)
Congrats, grandma!
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My guess is those who are concerned about dust in the air have never heard of gravity.
Hey, if you cut a worm in two, don't you get two worms?
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I don't see a problem with eliminating the dust. They just need another vehicle going behind the "working" vehicle with a big water tank and a sprayer on it. [/dumode]
I used to hate helping to bale hay.
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So I'm guessing the EPA is now going to ban wind and tornadoes?
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May I offer a round of applause for our gentlemen farmers here who help in cows giving birth and saving mother and baby? You guys are the salt of the earth. Not the dust, like the DUmmies.
Incidentally, my stepdaughter is at this moment having a baby, so I just had to comment. :-)
I hope it comes out well for both mother and infant, madam.
Congratulations!
As for this calf-pulling stuff, I myself was eyewitness to one instance.
It was, uh, rather an interesting thing to see.
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Congrats, grandma!
Thank you, but Yikes! I'm only 45!
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Thank you, but Yikes! I'm only 45!
Congrats, but I became Grand at 38. You get over it. :p
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They'd all starve to death within a year.
DREAM COME TRUE! :cheersmate:
...and BTW, I don't farm. When it comes down to it and we have to barter, I'll trade you guys some Grouper, Snapper, or Deer tenderloin for some veggies. :popcorn:
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Great! Now the combine that costs $250,000 is going to cost $500,000, in order to keep the dust under control........
These geniuses pissed and moaned when their grand idea to turn grain crops into fuel drove the cost of everything up so high that the "poor Mexicans" couldn't afford corn meal to make tortillas, now they want to do it AGAIN.......
Don't they ever think these things through..........there is more dust generated by folks driving up and down the gravel roads by our farmland (which incidently happens every day that it doesn't rain), than a combine would generate in 50 years of harvesting.......I suppose that cars and trucks will have "dust abatement devices" required now as well.........or perhaps they will just tax the hell out of us and pave all of the farm roads.......
Idiots....
doc
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 11:14 PM
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9. Sometimes farmers need to be told what to do for their own good
Typical arrogant asshole. You don't have to be intelligent as long as you can pretend you know better how to run everyone's life. If I need help with my farm the last person I'll ask is someone from the EPA. I call the extension office, talk to other farmers, ask someone at homesteading.com.
Suddenly, I have a desire to go plow a field.
Cindie
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I have an idea! Let's ban dirt! I hear crops grow just as well out of concrete. :thumbs:
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Daddy made a gadget like the vet had....and I was pulling calves at age 10 or 12. ....puking the whole time tho. Nothing like trying to eat breakfast after being shoulder deep in a cows ass.
Been there, done that!
The worst was pulling a dead calf from a heifer that had jumped the fence and disappeared for 2-3 days.
I was about 12 at the time, and to make a long story short, we used a block and tackle and OB chains, and literally pulled the calf out in pieces....4 to be precise....
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Daddy made a gadget like the vet had....and I was pulling calves at age 10 or 12. ....puking the whole time tho. Nothing like trying to eat breakfast after being shoulder deep in a cows ass.
What kind of experimental cows are you guys growing that you can pull a calf out of it's ass?
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 11:14 PM
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9. Sometimes farmers need to be told what to do for their own good
Yeah, look how great that turned out in the former Soviet Union, North Korea, and Zimbabwe, for instance.
:loser:
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I don't see a problem with eliminating the dust. They just need another vehicle going behind the "working" vehicle with a big water tank and a sprayer on it. [/dumode]
I used to hate helping to bale hay.
Ever ride on a "sacker" combine? Instead of a grain tank, 2 people would sit on a bench, and place sacks on a diverter. When one got full, you'd switch to the other sack, tie off the full one, and place it on a tilting table. When the table got full, you dumped it out in the field, and go back later with a truck and a loader tractor and take them to the barn.
My uncle had one of those combines, and from age 9 til I was about 13, I would be the one that put the empty sacks on and flip the diverter from the full sack to the empty one. My dad would tie the full sacks and place them on the table. I don't care which direction you were traveling in a field, but the breeze would ALWAYS be blowing from the combine straight into your face! I believe that if you did a complete 360 degree circle in the field, the wind would still blow right into your face. I may have started the day as a "white boy", but by evening, I looked like a coal miner from all the dust and chafe....
As soon as I was able, I volunteered to bale straw rather than ride that combine....
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What kind of experimental cows are you guys growing that you can pull a calf out of it's ass?
them thar rebels aint all that smart...
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Let me dissect this stupidity point by point....
tularetom (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-14-09 11:14 PM
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9. Sometimes farmers need to be told what to do for their own good
Why? And by whom? YOU? I'll trust a farmer with years of experience over ANYONE, mainly because he's been there, done that....
...like the guys who planted the same crops year after year after year until they leached all the nitrogen and phosphorus out of the soil.
What about Potash (and I'm not talking about what's leftover after you smoke a joint.) Potash is the short name for potassium carbinate. It's the third number on the fertilizer bag, the first is nitrogen, second is phosphorus, the third is potash. (ex. 10-10-10 fertilizer has 10% of each nutrient per pound. In order to get 100 pounds of nutrients per acre, you would have to apply 1000 pounds of 10-10-10 fertilizer per acre to do it....)
DUmbass doesn't even mention calcium, manganese, iron, selenium, and other trace minerals necessary for proper plant growth. :loser:
And the guys who didn't practice contour planting and watched their hillsides erode away from wind and water.
Where to start with this. With the price of land and the availability of good tillable land both being at a premium, there is not a farmer alive that is going to piss away this valuable asset.
THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN! PERIOD! This DUmbass doesn't have the slightest idea what the hell he's talking about. He probably thinks the farmer is sitting around on this huge pile of cash, paying Mexicans 25 cents a day to harvest his crops while he looks for more land to "ruin". The "farmer" this DUmmie is referencing DOES NOT EXIST!
Yep farmers always know better than them pointy headed intellectuals workin for the guvmint.
EVERYBODY knows better than "them pointy headed intellectuals workin for the guvmint", especially the farmers....
Farmers are the best in the world at shitting in their own food dish.
Name one, jerkoff!
And before somebody gets in my face I was a farm kid and I still live on 40 acres of dry pasture out here.
BULLSHIT! :bsmeter:
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Where does the tularetom primitive, the primitive who made a killing in real-estate during the "lousy" Bush economy, get the idea that 40 acres is a lot of land, practically a farm?
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Ever ride on a "sacker" combine? Instead of a grain tank, 2 people would sit on a bench, and place sacks on a diverter. When one got full, you'd switch to the other sack, tie off the full one, and place it on a tilting table. When the table got full, you dumped it out in the field, and go back later with a truck and a loader tractor and take them to the barn.
My uncle had one of those combines, and from age 9 til I was about 13, I would be the one that put the empty sacks on and flip the diverter from the full sack to the empty one. My dad would tie the full sacks and place them on the table. I don't care which direction you were traveling in a field, but the breeze would ALWAYS be blowing from the combine straight into your face! I believe that if you did a complete 360 degree circle in the field, the wind would still blow right into your face. I may have started the day as a "white boy", but by evening, I looked like a coal miner from all the dust and chafe....
As soon as I was able, I volunteered to bale straw rather than ride that combine....
You are dating yourself.......the technology has changed a bit........but there is really no way (depending on the crop being harvested) that the dust is going to be eliminated without injecting copious amounts of water into the grain separation process, and the entire idea of harvesting the grain is to do so in a manner that minimizes the moisture content........it just ain't gonna happen unless you enclose the entire machine in a huge moving enclosure with fans and filters.........
doc
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Where does the tularetom primitive, the primitive who made a killing in real-estate during the "lousy" Bush economy, get the idea that 40 acres is a lot of land, practically a farm?
prob'ly from the idea of 40 acres and a mule is a good idea for the coloured folks.
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Where does the tularetom primitive, the primitive who made a killing in real-estate during the "lousy" Bush economy, get the idea that 40 acres is a lot of land, practically a farm?
Forty acres wouldn't make a decent "truck garden" in this part of the country, and I've been in the Nebraska sandhills........farms where you are, are measured in "sections" not acres.........
doc
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prob'ly from the idea of 40 acres and a mule is a good idea for the coloured folks.
I considered that a possibility.
Whatever land it is, though, the tularetom primitive has some prime lakefront acreage out there in California.....gotten during the "lousy" Bush economy of so very long ago.
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Forty acres wouldn't make a decent "truck garden" in this part of the country, and I've been in the Nebraska sandhills........farms where you are, are measured in "sections" not acres.........
doc
take alook at the pictures from my ranch out in western nebraska. the nearest town is 30 miles away.
www.maciraq.blogspot.com
I own 2400 arces as part of the family's ranch holdings.
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take alook at the pictures from my ranch out in western nebraska. the nearest town is 30 miles away.
www.maciraq.blogspot.com
I own 2400 arces as part of the family's ranch holdings.
Great photographs, sir.
But why are you wearing a skirt in the first one?
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You are dating yourself.......the technology has changed a bit........but there is really no way (depending on the crop being harvested) that the dust is going to be eliminated without injecting copious amounts of water into the grain separation process, and the entire idea of harvesting the grain is to do so in a manner that minimizes the moisture content........it just ain't gonna happen unless you enclose the entire machine in a huge moving enclosure with fans and filters.........
doc
Oh, I know that. The combine I talked about was my uncle's.
My dad and I did a lot of custom combining back in the 70's and 80's with a self-propelled IH 715 combine. If you were doing small grains, you could not start until the dew was off and the plant was completely dry. The only thing damp straw would do is wrap the cylinder and stop up the straw walkers and shieves....
Corn didn't have this problem, since the header snaps the ears off and leaves the majority of the stalks in the field....
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Great photographs, sir.
But why are you wearing a skirt in the first one?
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that is the McLeod tartan, from my father's maternal side of the family the McAuleys. It was my birthday and I felt like being difficult.
plus- it annoys the wife.
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Just imagine the first time they had to birth a calf! Or even a kitten for that matter! Hahahahahahaha!
I'd love to see one of the DUmmies with their arm up to the shoulder in a cow....Give em some straps and a come along....LMAO
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that is the McLeod tartan, from my father's maternal side of the family the McAuleys. It was my birthday and I felt like being difficult.
plus- it annoys the wife.
Actually, the intent of my comment was to draw traffic to your most-excellent site.
Really, people, it's good.
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take alook at the pictures from my ranch out in western nebraska. the nearest town is 30 miles away.
www.maciraq.blogspot.com
I own 2400 arces as part of the family's ranch holdings.
Gorgeous spot........when my wife and I drive through the area we are always impressed with all of the windmills for stock watering.......they have all but disappeared here in MO, but we mostly grain farm in our area.
We only till 880 acres, but it also has been in the family for about 150 years.......nearest town is only 15 miles, but our population density is somewhat higher than the sandhills.
BTY,....love the kilt......
doc
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Actually, the intent of my comment was to draw traffic to your most-excellent site.
Really, people, it's good.
I wrote alot while I was in iraq, from notification of deployment to return to the US. I would recommend it if you want to get a feeling of what I was feeling during combat.
(not to pat myself on the back, but I think I am funny).
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I'd love to see one of the DUmmies with their arm up to the shoulder in a cow....Give em some straps and a come along....LMAO
I prefer the stainless steel OB chains myself....
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I prefer the stainless steel OB chains myself....
We just used these black straps....I just love pullin a 120lb calf outta a 1st calf heifer...NOT
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Corn didn't have this problem, since the header snaps the ears off and leaves the majority of the stalks in the field....
With the older corn heads this is true......but we do no-till, so our corn head chops the stalks up before returning them to the field, which generates a lot of dust as well. Not as much as combining beans, but depending on how dry the ground is, a hell of a lot of dust anyway...
doc
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Ya gots to be kiddin'! SAVE THE WORMS???? Bwahahahahahahaha!
Well, there is a certain kinship between DUmbasses and earthworms. They're both slimy, hate sunlight, hide under ground, and copulate with themselves frequently.
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With the older corn heads this is true......but we do no-till, so our corn head chops the stalks up before returning them to the field, which generates a lot of dust as well. Not as much as combining beans, but depending on how dry the ground is, a hell of a lot of dust anyway...
doc
Most of the farmers we did corn for followed the combine thru the field with a bush hog, then raked and round-baled the stalks to feed over the winter.
Never did any beans, mostly corn, wheat, oats, buckwheat, and lot and lots of rye....
Our poor ol' Binder had over 6,500 hours on it, with 4,000 on the thresher, before it finally gave up. It's engine chunked the #6 con rod thru the block....
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We just used these black straps....I just love pullin a 120lb calf outta a 1st calf heifer...NOT
Try pulling a 3 day DEAD calf out of a 1st calf heifer.
It has swelled to about twice its normal size....
Not pleasant, not pleasant at all :puke:
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Well, there is a certain kinship between DUmbasses and earthworms. They're both slimy, hate sunlight, hide under ground, and copulate with themselves frequently.
Or are at least TOLD TO!
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Try pulling a 3 day DEAD calf out of a 1st calf heifer.
It has swelled to about twice its normal size....
Not pleasant, not pleasant at all :puke:
No thank you.....I've seen an older cow that had a dead calf in her...they found her to late...The smell was awful...they had to put her down.
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So, to sum up the current state of hope-&-change...
energy prices will skyrocket;
as both cattle and dust must be eliminated, food prices will skyrocket;
Obama expects unemployment to continue to climb;
the healthcare overhaul will force everyone to buy some sort of health insurance while raising the actual cost to consumers and insurance companies because the government pays about 65% of the actual bill for any procedure;
and taxes on those left with income will have to subsidize the rest of the unread legislation that is being passed.
Did I miss anything? :thatsright: :thatsright: :banghead: :banghead:
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So, to sum up the current state of hope-&-change...
energy prices will skyrocket;
as both cattle and dust must be eliminated, food prices will skyrocket;
Obama expects unemployment to continue to climb;
the healthcare overhaul will force everyone to buy some sort of health insurance while raising the actual cost to consumers and insurance companies because the government pays about 65% of the actual bill for any procedure;
and taxes on those left with income will have to subsidize the rest of the unread legislation that is being passed.
Did I miss anything? :thatsright: :thatsright: :banghead: :banghead:
I think you nailed it.... :II:
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So, to sum up the current state of hope-&-change...
energy prices will skyrocket;
as both cattle and dust must be eliminated, food prices will skyrocket;
Obama expects unemployment to continue to climb;
the healthcare overhaul will force everyone to buy some sort of health insurance while raising the actual cost to consumers and insurance companies because the government pays about 65% of the actual bill for any procedure;
and taxes on those left with income will have to subsidize the rest of the unread legislation that is being passed.
Did I miss anything? :thatsright: :thatsright: :banghead: :banghead:
We are so screwn. :-)
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Lord Undies sez:
Congrats, but I became Grand at 38. You get over it.
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
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Lord Undies sez:
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
Congrats.....
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We are so screwn. :-)
:lmao:
Dude, when are you coming to visit me again?
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Lord Undies sez:
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
I got carded at a beer store while I had my grandson on my hip. I kicked up some dust getting out of that parking lot (to stay on topic).
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:lmao:
Dude, when are you coming to visit me again?
He's gettin' married. I don't think he's going to be visiting anyone for a long, long time. :(
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Lord Undies sez:
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
Very cool! Congrats! Grands are, well, just grand. :-) :-) :-)
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No thank you.....I've seen an older cow that had a dead calf in her...they found her to late...The smell was awful...they had to put her down.
Yeah, Ive had that happen. Wonder what the DUmmies would think of me using my framing hammer to put her outta her misery? I've had to do it more than once. I've also had to put down 3 horses and a donkey in the last 5 years. Think DUmpsters could handle that part of animal husbandry?
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Lord Undies sez:
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
Good Deal!!!!! Speaking as a Grandfather of five, It only gets better from here!!!!!!!!! They are the apples of my eye!
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Yeah, Ive had that happen. Wonder what the DUmmies would think of me using my framing hammer to put her outta her misery? I've had to do it more than once. I've also had to put down 3 horses and a donkey in the last 5 years. Think DUmpsters could handle that part of animal husbandry?
That's just an exammple of how barbaric our system is. If we had full-blown single-payer universal Obamacare, those animals might still be alive. They would have received the best veterinary care without deductibles or co-pays, and if incurable, would have been placed in taxpayer-financed equine hospice.
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But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
Congrats, Karin. Blessing to you, your stepdaughter, and your new grandbaby. May all your lives be filled with joy and happiness.
8 lbs. 14 oz., eh. That ain't no boy, that's a MAN. My 2 sons were big, too. 1 was 8lbs. 9 1/4oz., the other was 8lbs. 9 1/2oz. Both left the hospital wearing 3-6 months size jumpers....
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Forty acres wouldn't make a decent "truck garden" in this part of the country, and I've been in the Nebraska sandhills........farms where you are, are measured in "sections" not acres.........
doc
Depends on what you're farming. My chickens and goats do quite well on 15 acres.
Cindie
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Lord Undies sez:
But things are looking up! Today, working at the family biz, I got a $2 tip for the "hot grandma." Sort of like Sarah Palin. :-)
With all the talk of dead calves, let me interject that my grandson Jackson was born today 8 lbs. 14 oz, a big fella, and happy and healthy as can be, and so is the beautiful mom. I don't know if I ever disclosed that this was a "choose life" situation, but it was, even under great pressure among others to "get rid of it." My stepdaughter chose life, and I am so proud.
Congrats, Karin! I'm reminded of something my mother said to myself and my three siblings, on the eve of my brother's wedding: "I can't wait 'til you kids have kids so we can spoil them rotten, then send them home!" The gathering, which had been focusing on busting on my mother, got very quiet after that.
Use this sparingly for maximum effect.
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3-day old dead calves......ewwwwwwww.
That happened a few times....but daddy took care of those....he'd cut them up inside the cow and pull a piece at a time..... saved maybe 50 % of the cows.... I was just "there".....I handled the soap, water, towels and did "ALL" the puking ....I think my daddy's smeller was broke.
As a kid I tied the sacks on an old Allis-Chalmers combine.....what fun that was. Damn! There was a special way you tied the knot and I can't remember how now. I guess somethings are best forgotten.
40 acres and a mule....that'd probably earn you enough to get an RC cola and a moonpie these days.... :-)
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Depends on what you're farming. My chickens and goats do quite well on 15 acres.
Cindie
Can you support a family on that? I assume not, that is what is generally referred to around here as a "hobby farm".........not in any way trying to denigrate your efforts, as any agricultural business takes one hell of a lot of work, regardless of scale.
It is just that my wife and I generally define a "farm" as a business that will at least support the family that lives on and works it (without an outside source of income). YMMV......
doc
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3-day old dead calves......ewwwwwwww.
That happened a few times....but daddy took care of those....he'd cut them up inside the cow and pull a piece at a time..... saved maybe 50 % of the cows.... I was just "there".....I handled the soap, water, towels and did "ALL" the puking ....I think my daddy's smeller was broke.
As a kid I tied the sacks on an old Allis-Chalmers combine.....what fun that was. Damn! There was a special way you tied the knot and I can't remember how now. I guess somethings are best forgotten.
40 acres and a mule....that'd probably earn you enough to get an RC cola and a moonpie these days.... :-)
My uncle's combine was an old IH, I forget the model number. Later on, he bought a used one, same model, except it had the grain tank instead of the bench. I guess after all his nephews grew up and moved on, he had no one to ride the combine....
I still know how to do a miller's knot, another uncle owned a mill and I worked for him during peak times....
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Yeah, Ive had that happen. Wonder what the DUmmies would think of me using my framing hammer to put her outta her misery? I've had to do it more than once. I've also had to put down 3 horses and a donkey in the last 5 years. Think DUmpsters could handle that part of animal husbandry?
Sigh....had to put down my mare last year. She was the last of them and a homebred at that. :(