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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: BEG on June 04, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
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We got the first offer 6 days after we put it on the market (they were the 2nd couple to look at the house). Our Realtor didn't get it up on the internet for two days after we listed, then it took her a couple more days (last friday) to get the pictures up. I was a little mad with her about all of that and her description she did for our house and made her change it. I guess she must of done something right though.
We went back and forth with counter offers and today we finally settled on a price. They originally wanted our washer/dryer and our large flat screen TV. Bastards...I didn't let them have either. They want to close on July 3rd.
We are going to LA tomorrow to look at houses. We come back Monday night. I don't want to move or give those people my house.
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Now I'm tearing up. This is heartbreaking. I tried to be strong for you, but dammit, this is your HOME we're talking about.
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Now I'm tearing up. This is heartbreaking. I tried to be strong for you, but dammit, this is your HOME we're talking about.
I know...... :bawl:
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I know...... :bawl:
I've lived in my little lean-to for 23 years. They'll have to sedate me or embalm me to get me out. I'm emotionally attached.
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We went back and forth with counter offers and today we finally settled on a price. They originally wanted our washer/dryer and our large flat screen TV. Bastards...I didn't let them have either. They want to close on July 3rd.
People actually DO that? Unreal. :mental:
Did you at least break even? :(
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I've lived in my little lean-to for 23 years. They'll have to sedate me or embalm me to get me out. I'm emotionally attached.
I'd imagine after 23 years, the house is "lived-in" with your tastes. It's taken me a while to get used to my house...I think I could leave it tomorrow though and not be upset...but I've only been here 2.5 years. I cried when I left my condo in New York though...I lived there for 8 years.
BEG...moving your house so fast is a good sign....Hell, If I were re-locating to Texas..I'D BUY IT...you'd have to leave the TV, washer, dryer AND the furniture though... :tongue:
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We got the first offer 6 days after we put it on the market (they were the 2nd couple to look at the house). Our Realtor didn't get it up on the internet for two days after we listed, then it took her a couple more days (last friday) to get the pictures up. I was a little mad with her about all of that and her description she did for our house and made her change it. I guess she must of done something right though.
We went back and forth with counter offers and today we finally settled on a price. They originally wanted our washer/dryer and our large flat screen TV. Bastards...I didn't let them have either. They want to close on July 3rd.
We are going to LA tomorrow to look at houses. We come back Monday night. I don't want to move or give those people my house.
Glad it sold quickly.
I have heard of appliances staying, but never a TV!!!
Didn't they know all you went through to get a dryer that works? :-)
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I don't know if I should say I'm glad it sold so fast, or sad for you. I guess a little of both. :bawl: :-)
At least you don't have to worry about floating two mortgages, I guess.
I hope you find a house in CA that you totally love, and that the girls find their niche.
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Count me among the sad. I loved that house and I know how much you and K put into the yard, the kitichen and all the decorating. Many fond memories I have visiting you in TX.... I am glad it sold quickly for you, but still. :bawl:
Oh I made this post all about me and my feelings.... could I be a bigger shmuck without trying? :-*
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Count me among the sad. I loved that house and I know how much you and K put into the yard, the kitichen and all the decorating. Many fond memories I have visiting you in TX.... I am glad it sold quickly for you, but still. :bawl:
Oh I made this post all about me and my feelings.... could I be a bigger shmuck without trying? :-*
SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!! :tongue:
Well glad ya sold it BEG.
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Sucks that you're having to move, but as previously mentioned, be thankful the house sold quickly--as long as the buyers get financing. Did you put any conditions on that? I know when we tried to sell our house in CA, we had to get to the third offer before the buyer got financing.
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I hope everything goes as well as can be hoped for BEG.
Turmoil sucks. :(
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Let us know how the house-hunting goes. And again, I really could use a double-double from In-N-Out.
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I'm sad too dang it!!!! While it's a blessing in disguise that it sold so fast (and boy did it!) I bet it's shocking too because you're still getting used to the idea of moving. It's like, "Hey!!! Wait a minute!!!!"
I know whatever is in store for you will be great and you'll get settled in a new place and make all new memories.
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Congrats & condolences, BEG.
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Well BEG, welcome to the land of fruits and nuts!
Once ya'll get situated I can give you some ideas on what things to see in Cali. Theres MUCH more to it than the LA basin, despite the fact that Hollywierd portrays the state that way.
I say this because most people that haven't been here think it's a one long beach with SF at one end and LA at the other. And no, there are not palm trees everywhere throughout the state. :p
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So...we had our first day of house hunting. Today it was looking close to Kevin's work. Friggen depressing. We did find a couple places I MIGHT live but I would have to give up my quilting machine. We were looking in the Redondo Beach area (Golden Hills) and Torrence area mainly. We looked at some POS places in el segundo and manhattan beach. It looks like kevin will be commuting. :p
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So...we had our first day of house hunting. Today it was looking close to Kevin's work. Friggen depressing. We did find a couple places I MIGHT live but I would have to give up my quilting machine. We were looking in the Redondo Beach area (Golden Hills) and Torrence area mainly. We looked at some POS places in el segundo and manhattan beach. It looks like kevin will be commuting. :p
I think the Spelling place is still up for sale. I think, with a little rearranging, your machine will fit. :p
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I'm sorry about your house. I hope things work out for you in the longrun though.
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Well BEG, welcome to the land of fruits and nuts!
Once ya'll get situated I can give you some ideas on what things to see in Cali. Theres MUCH more to it than the LA basin, despite the fact that Hollywierd portrays the state that way.
I say this because most people that haven't been here think it's a one long beach with SF at one end and LA at the other. And no, there are not palm trees everywhere throughout the state. :p
I enjoyed reading about the free things to do in LA on the city's website.
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So...we had our first day of house hunting. Today it was looking close to Kevin's work. Friggen depressing. We did find a couple places I MIGHT live but I would have to give up my quilting machine. We were looking in the Redondo Beach area (Golden Hills) and Torrence area mainly. We looked at some POS places in el segundo and manhattan beach. It looks like kevin will be commuting. :p
POS or just expensive? Yeah, 1M for a crackerbox in Manhattan Beach is depressing. The southern and western sides of Torrance are pretty decent, and if you can afford something up in Palos Verdes you'd be likely to find what you want.
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In this recessionary gloom and doom that we're continually bombarded with, it's actually refreshing to see that there are people out there who are buying and selling homes.
Um, yeah, I concur with Sparky. Unless the buyer has a very nice nest egg, it's kinda important that they get financing. Not so easy these days, I hear...
Floating two mortgages ain't fun, or even renting and paying on a mortgage at the same time is definitely not fun. That one I've done.
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I would like to sent you and your family many blessings in your journey to relocate. It's never a easy task. May God be with you.
I lived in the area you're looking(Torrance), in the 5th grade and it's a tough area. But lots to do.
Onward and upward.
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Congrats & condolences, BEG.
+1.
BEG, I adored your home with your elegant touch and flair for style. It truly was a beautiful abode, and certainly, 'you'. I hope you're not too saddened by leaving it behind, hopefully seeing it as an opportunity to BEG'afiy' a new home for the benefit of all mankind :cheersmate:
Congrat's on selling it so quickly too, I'm absolutely astonished by that! Good luck with the move!!!
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They wanted the TV?
Bastards!
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I hear you BEG.
When we sold someone asked for the washer and dryer, the refrigerator, the drapes, a little wooden bathroom shelf I decorated even patio furniture.
Wanted us to GIVE it to them. No.
Good luck to you and your family. Don't let the moonbats infect you. :-)
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So...we had our first day of house hunting. Today it was looking close to Kevin's work. Friggen depressing. We did find a couple places I MIGHT live but I would have to give up my quilting machine. We were looking in the Redondo Beach area (Golden Hills) and Torrence area mainly. We looked at some POS places in el segundo and manhattan beach. It looks like kevin will be commuting. :p
Congrats! Maybe we can visit when SLW and I are out there in August! :-)
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So...we had our first day of house hunting. Today it was looking close to Kevin's work. Friggen depressing. We did find a couple places I MIGHT live but I would have to give up my quilting machine. We were looking in the Redondo Beach area (Golden Hills) and Torrence area mainly. We looked at some POS places in el segundo and manhattan beach. It looks like kevin will be commuting. :p
Unfortunately, it goes with the territory. The farther out you can get, the better the prices.....relatively speaking....
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I don't think the sale is going to go through. These people are pissing me off. They were suppose to sign their final offer on friday and then I get a call on sunday (we were in CA looking at houses) and my realtor tells me that the appraisal didn't appraise high enough. Oddly enough (sarcasm) their appraisal came in at around their first offer. I didn't even know they had the house appraised. They hadn't signed the offer yet and they had our house appraised?!? So I'm talking to our realtor in CA and she tells me that either we need to be home or our realtor needs to be here when the appraiser is at the house. She told me something fishy is going on that a buyer doesn't order an appraisal BEFORE they sign an offer.
I get home and ask my son how many people viewed the house while we were gone, he tells me 4. I find the business card on the counter from the appraiser and I listen to the messages left on the answering machine. The company that arranges the viewings left a message saying that a realtor (with the same name as the appraiser) was going to show my house on saturday. The appraiser came to my house by herself. She has no idea of the upgrades (except for the obvious pool, etc) in this house. My realtor said that we have no idea if this appraiser is friends with the buyer or realtor or what and that we can't trust the appraisal. For all we know they wanted this appraisal to be low so they could use it as a tool to go back to their first offer. They tried to offer a little over their appraisers value but we declined and said we were holding firm to the final agreed upon price. We haven't heard a response (this was yesterday) and I'm fairly certain they aren't going to go for it.
Meanwhile we had two appraisers out for the relo and they are not within 5% of each other in price so we have to have a third (he is coming out tomorrow). Once I know what the company will pay for our house I will adjust the price. I know it is priced too high. When the realtor asked me what I thought we should list the house I came in 20 grand lower than what she thought we should list the house for. I am a little upset with her because she talked me in to listing it higher and we lost two weeks of possibly a larger buying pool by having it listed 20 grand higher than I think we can get in this market.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure these people aren't going to buy our house. I found out through our realtor that they were looking at a new build across the interstate as well. She told me what the name of the builder is, it is not as good of a builder (read cheaper builder) as our house. I know this because it is the same builder we had with our house before this one. I think these people were stretching it by buying our house and weren't comfortable with the final price they agreed to and probably felt over extended.
In the end it doesn't matter really. The company will buy our house if we don't sell it in 60 days and we will probably get more than what we were going to get from our agreed upon price with the stupid buyers (minute the bonus for selling it ourselves).
For those of you from CA who are interested in the areas we are looking at, I will tell you of a few areas. Fullerton is my first choice. I love the older neighborhoods, there are some beautiful old houses and they have great schools. I also love their "down town" area. It feels like a small town. There is also Fullerton college and a Jr. college there as well (I'm thinking of our 15 year old when she is ready for college). We also liked some areas in Brea (also good schools). We liked Huntington Beach and Los Alamitos has some good areas (and good schools as well).
I am use to new houses, it is all we have ever bought. When we lived in Lake Havasu we even rented brand new houses (two of them). The first "used" house we ever lived in was the house we rented in Carrollton when we first moved to Texas. So I haven't viewed too many houses while house hunting that people had lived in before. Let me just say that people live like friggen PIGS. I can't believe the way some people live let alone the way they show their house. I was shocked that people were asking $900k for a house that I wouldn't sit down in let alone live in. We will most likely have to sacrifice size to be able to afford the type of house we want. With sacrificing size I will have to have my quilting machine in the garage.
I will show you two front runners in our house quest. The first one was built in 1988. It is on a rather high hill in Brea. It's on a cul-de-sac with a greenbelt across the street and no one behind. We would have to get rid of a lot of furniture as a lot of stuff is built in's in this house. I would have to get rid of my kitchen table for sure as well as our bedroom furniture and my oldest daughters bedroom furniture. I don't really mind the bedroom furniture but I don't like the idea of getting rid of my kitchen table. This owner of this house has to be taking a loss because the upgrades in this house is unbelievable. The garage alone is practically a living room. It is the nicest garage I have EVER seen.
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The next house is my personal favorite. It is amazing and totally different than the first. The pictures do NOT do it justice. It was built in 1947. The street is wide and lined with the same HUGE trees. It is a hilly area so it gives the neighborhood a very homey feel. No two houses are the same. It has a three car garage but you can fit four cars in it. It has a garage door on the back right garage stall so K could raise both garage doors and catch a nice breeze while working on his old truck. The couple have lived in the house for 18 years and have done of ton of upgrades/remodeling. The husband has Lou Gehrig's Disease and is in a wheel chair. He can't get around the house anymore. We spoke to the two of them and it is just so sad. He is so full of life and really seems like a wonderful man. I almost feel guilty if we bought his house because you can tell they really love the house. When he was remodeling the house he used natural black walnut for the interior doors & crown molding. The kitchen cabinets are beautiful, you would really have to see them in real life because the pictures just don't do it justice. I wish there were more pictures online because the backyard is amazing as well. Hell the whole house is amazing.
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I'm sure by the time we go back for our buying trip that both of these houses will be gone. I'm going to take down the pictures after awhile incase some creepy DU'er reads it and we happen to buy one of the houses. If anyone wants to view the houses after I delete the links PM me and I will give you the links.
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POS or just expensive? Yeah, 1M for a crackerbox in Manhattan Beach is depressing. The southern and western sides of Torrance are pretty decent, and if you can afford something up in Palos Verdes you'd be likely to find what you want.
POS sparky. This one house they wanted close to $900k (this was in El Segundo, NOT somewhere I would live) looked like a friggen kids club house. It was disgusting. I don't think we could find anything in Palos Verdes big enough and in our price range. If we were willing to go less than 1300 sq ft we could probably find a decent place but I refuse to live on top of each other.
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They wanted the TV?
Bastards!
They are double bastards now Don.
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I really like the first house, BEG. Little to NO lawn mowing!
Kitchen is open, countertops and cabs look great. Open, airy effect.
I guess if you have to do CA, that house might be doable.
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I hear ya, BEG. The beach towns are great if you are 1--in your early 20's, 2--deaf, 3--a party animal with limitless wealth. As far as a working family goes? Not so much.
BTW--I know exactly where the second house is located (Fullerton). You're less than a mile from Mrs. Sparky and probably the same distance from my cousin and her family. FWIW, I have some recommendations for restaurants in the Fullerton area. PM me and I'll drop some names if you're interested for your next trip out.
I don't think either one of those houses are going to sell that quickly. Hell, it took four months in 2006 to sell ours, and that's when we dropped the price twice.
And as far as your not getting your current home sold, sorry to hear about that, but cheesy realtors and finance people seem to be way too common in any economy, I guess. And yes, whenever I put an offer on a house, I always, always, ALWAYS wrote a check for an appraisal, or stipulated it was to be taken out of the earnest money I put down.
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I really like the first house, BEG. Little to NO lawn mowing!
Kitchen is open, countertops and cabs look great. Open, airy effect.
I guess if you have to do CA, that house might be doable.
The brown carpeting would have to eventually go. It is newer carpet and they did it on purpose...LOL. It goes with all their furnishings but brown carpet is NOT for me.
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I really like the first house, BEG. Little to NO lawn mowing!
Kitchen is open, countertops and cabs look great. Open, airy effect.
I guess if you have to do CA, that house might be doable.
Problem I have with that first place is (I know the neighborhood--drove by it on way to work) is that while it's pretty hilly, there's still a lot of ambient street noise, and there's that other little nuisance of FIRES.
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The brown carpeting would have to eventually go. It is newer carpet and they did it on purpose...LOL. It goes with all their furnishings but brown carpet is NOT for me.
How new is the roof on the house in Fullerton?
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I hear ya, BEG. The beach towns are great if you are 1--in your early 20's, 2--deaf, 3--a party animal with limitless wealth. As far as a working family goes? Not so much.
BTW--I know exactly where the second house is located (Fullerton). You're less than a mile from Mrs. Sparky and probably the same distance from my cousin and her family. FWIW, I have some recommendations for restaurants in the Fullerton area. PM me and I'll drop some names if you're interested for your next trip out.
I don't think either one of those houses are going to sell that quickly. Hell, it took four months in 2006 to sell ours, and that's when we dropped the price twice.
And as far as your not getting your current home sold, sorry to hear about that, but cheesy realtors and finance people seem to be way too common in any economy, I guess. And yes, whenever I put an offer on a house, I always, always, ALWAYS wrote a check for an appraisal, or stipulated it was to be taken out of the earnest money I put down.
They wrote in their first offer that if the house doesn't appraise for the sell amount that they could back out so they were covered in any event. Have you ever heard of someone getting an appraisal BEFORE they sign an offer?
So what do you think about Fullerton? Would I like the area? If we move there you will have to hook me up with Mrs. Sparky so I can have me a friend there.
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How new is the roof on the house in Fullerton?
You know I don't know. It is concrete tile though because I remember him telling my husband.
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Problem I have with that first place is (I know the neighborhood--drove by it on way to work) is that while it's pretty hilly, there's still a lot of ambient street noise, and there's that other little nuisance of FIRES.
Across the street is a greenbelt (no houses). There are houses way above the greenbelt higher on the hill and below it is another cul-de-sac. It didn't seem very noisy when we were there but then again we weren't listening for it when we were looking at the house.
Oh and I too am concerned about fires.
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They wrote in their first offer that if the house doesn't appraise for the sell amount that they could back out so they were covered in any event. Have you ever heard of someone getting an appraisal BEFORE they sign an offer?
So what do you think about Fullerton? Would I like the area? If we move there you will have to hook me up with Mrs. Sparky so I can have me a friend there.
There are parts of Fullerton you wouldn't want to be in after dark, but that can be said of just about anyplace.
I'll drop a line to her and see if she can show you around if/when you put an offer on that place.
And even if tile, it's probably a good idea to have it gone over with a fine tooth comb. Dry rot is a problem there.
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There are parts of Fullerton you wouldn't want to be in after dark, but that can be said of just about anyplace.
I'll drop a line to her and see if she can show you around if/when you put an offer on that place.
And even if tile, it's probably a good idea to have it gone over with a fine tooth comb. Dry rot is a problem there.
Thanks for the heads up. Do you know anything about Sunny Hills High School (heard that Troy is really good) or Golden Hills Elementary School?
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Don't know much about either elementary. I do know that Brea-Olinda HS is very good, and Fullerton is okay. But if your kids are going to school up in the Fullerton heights, I'd say you're ahead of the curve. With few exceptions, Orange County schools are much better off than schools in the LA area.
I e-mailed Mrs. Sparky to see if she can find something out for you.
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Don't know much about either elementary. I do know that Brea-Olinda HS is very good, and Fullerton is okay. But if your kids are going to school up in the Fullerton heights, I'd say you're ahead of the curve. With few exceptions, Orange County schools are much better off than schools in the LA area.
I e-mailed Mrs. Sparky to see if she can find something out for you.
Thanks Sparky, I owe you one.
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Thanks Sparky, I owe you one.
Let the record reflect this when I ask for my In-N-Out burgers, or helpings of carne adovada from Anita's.
BTW--you do realize one requirement of living behind the "Orange Curtain" is purchase of Disneyland Annual Passes for you and your brood? The premium pass is $389...but do not go cheap and get a So-Cal pass. The premium gets you in 365 days a year, free parking, and merchandise discounts. Considering a one-day pass to ONE park goes for $69, a one-day "park hopper" pass goes for $94.
IIRC, the discount is good at most, if not all, of their restaurants, including Napa Rose over at the Grand Californian. That is one place you WILL go next time you're out there. It's simply too good to miss, even if you don't go into the parks.
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Let the record reflect this when I ask for my In-N-Out burgers, or helpings of carne adovada from Anita's.
BTW--you do realize one requirement of living behind the "Orange Curtain" is purchase of Disneyland Annual Passes for you and your brood? The premium pass is $389...but do not go cheap and get a So-Cal pass. The premium gets you in 365 days a year, free parking, and merchandise discounts. Considering a one-day pass to ONE park goes for $69, a one-day "park hopper" pass goes for $94.
IIRC, the discount is good at most, if not all, of their restaurants, including Napa Rose over at the Grand Californian. That is one place you WILL go next time you're out there. It's simply too good to miss, even if you don't go into the parks.
I don't "do" theme parks. I will go ONCE with my kids and that is it. I went to Six Flags ONCE during the 15 years we have lived here.
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I don't "do" theme parks. I will go ONCE with my kids and that is it. I went to Six Flags ONCE during the 15 years we have lived here.
Boy, are you moving to the wrong state.................................................... :tongue:
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Boy, are you moving to the wrong state.................................................... :tongue:
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I want to see the houses you are considering... :( but you took them down already...
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I want to see the houses you are considering... :( but you took them down already...
I'll PM them to you.
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I'll PM them to you.
Got them, thanks...I like the one on Lennox....great view, fireplace, great pool...and I'm partial to Mediterranean style homes....
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I'll PM them to you.
Hi, would you PM them to me, too?
BEG, I feel for you. Years ago I moved from St Louis to the Chicago area. I was stunned at the price differences. I went from a nice brick home with a small pool and privacy fence and full basement to a frame home (a little larger in square feet), but no basement, no pool, no basic amenities and 50% more expensive. It took forever to find even that.
I was astonished when I visited my son, who lived in Orange County for about 6 months. He returned to STL, as he couldn't afford to live in Ca. A friend of his sold her home for about $800k. It was in terrible condition, as her ex started all kinds of projects, but never finished them. You can get a McMansion in the STL area for that kind of money.
Good luck with your move. And don't give in to those creepy buyers. They'll probably find all kinds of things "wrong" with your home and try to get you down even lower at closing time.
Your home is beautiful. I've always enjoyed your pics. Just think of how you'll BEG-ify a Ca home.
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They wrote in their first offer that if the house doesn't appraise for the sell amount that they could back out so they were covered in any event. Have you ever heard of someone getting an appraisal BEFORE they sign an offer?
So what do you think about Fullerton? Would I like the area? If we move there you will have to hook me up with Mrs. Sparky so I can have me a friend there.
Catching up here, and just saw this.
It is usual and customary here to have in the sales contract for "house to appraise for sales price or greater".
I have put it in every offer that I have written in 12 years of being a Realtor.
This does protect the buyer ....should the house not appraise for the sales price to have an "out". The reason for this is ....for example...if the house does not appraise for the sales price and the loan is for 95% of the sales price....the loan will only work for 95% of the appraisal price. This means if the house appraises for $20,000 less than sales price.....the buyer is forced to come up with an additional $20,000! This money can not be borrowed against the house, as the appraisal value does not support the sales price.
Most people have a hard enough time coming up with the required down payment and closing costs, let alone coming up with the difference between sales price and appraisal price. Usually the worst that happens to a buyer if that happens, and they cannot pay the difference, is they will lose their earnest money, if the contract didn't specific to appraise for sales price. Often, either the seller will adjust the sales price, or the list agent will provide comparable sales to the appraiser for comparison with what the appraiser used.
I have never heard of someone having an appraisal prior to final inking of sales contract, except in the case of a foreclosure. But even then it is rare, and should the buyer be obtaining a loan, it's still in the contract to appraise for sales price.
Here, an appraiser will either call the list agent directly to make an appointment for the appraisal, or will have the selling agent make the appointment through the list agent.
To not disclose that an appraisal was being done, and to make it as a Realtor wanting to show the house seems a bit unethical to me.
One can be both an appraiser and a Realtor, but they should declare which "hat" they will be using before entering your home.
Sounds a bit more like "buyer's remorse" than anything else. I have a similar situation of buyer's remorse going on with a listing of mine....pretty common these days. :(
<<<<hugs>>>> to you, BEG....
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Catching up here, and just saw this.
It is usual and customary here to have in the sales contract for "house to appraise for sales price or greater".
I have put it in every offer that I have written in 12 years of being a Realtor.
This does protect the buyer ....should the house not appraise for the sales price to have an "out". The reason for this is ....for example...if the house does not appraise for the sales price and the loan is for 95% of the sales price....the loan will only work for 95% of the appraisal price. This means if the house appraises for $20,000 less than sales price.....the buyer is forced to come up with an additional $20,000! This money can not be borrowed against the house, as the appraisal value does not support the sales price.
Most people have a hard enough time coming up with the required down payment and closing costs, let alone coming up with the difference between sales price and appraisal price. Usually the worst that happens to a buyer if that happens, and they cannot pay the difference, is they will lose their earnest money, if the contract didn't specific to appraise for sales price. Often, either the seller will adjust the sales price, or the list agent will provide comparable sales to the appraiser for comparison with what the appraiser used.
I have never heard of someone having an appraisal prior to final inking of sales contract, except in the case of a foreclosure. But even then it is rare, and should the buyer be obtaining a loan, it's still in the contract to appraise for sales price.
Here, an appraiser will either call the list agent directly to make an appointment for the appraisal, or will have the selling agent make the appointment through the list agent.
To not disclose that an appraisal was being done, and to make it as a Realtor wanting to show the house seems a bit unethical to me.
One can be both an appraiser and a Realtor, but they should declare which "hat" they will be using before entering your home.
Sounds a bit more like "buyer's remorse" than anything else. I have a similar situation of buyer's remorse going on with a listing of mine....pretty common these days. :(
<<<<hugs>>>> to you, BEG....
I knew why they wrote the "House must appraise for the sales amount (or higher)" into their offer and I too would write it into any offer I would make on buying a house so they had their "out" already written in their first offer. They "supposedly" had over half of the sales price for their down by the way. They never signed their final offer. It was suppose to be signed on Friday but apparently they had the appraisal on saturday then tried to renegotiate their offer. Their "appraisal" oddly enough, came in right around their first offer (we aren't talking a few thousand dollar difference here either). From our negotiations we had with them I think this was their plan all along. My realtor also feels something wasn't quite right with this deal as well.
These people pissed us off from the start so I'm sure it wouldn't have been an easy close anyway. I'm sure they would nickel and dime every little thing an inspector might find as well and start demanding we leave items they didn't include in the deal.
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I knew why they wrote the "House must appraise for the sales amount (or higher)" into their offer and I too would write it into any offer I would make on buying a house so they had their "out" already written in their first offer. They "supposedly" had over half of the sales price for their down by the way. They never signed their final offer. It was suppose to be signed on Friday but apparently they had the appraisal on saturday then tried to renegotiate their offer. Their "appraisal" oddly enough, came in right around their first offer (we aren't talking a few thousand dollar difference here either). From our negotiations we had with them I think this was their plan all along. My realtor also feels something wasn't quite right with this deal as well.
These people pissed us off from the start so I'm sure it wouldn't have been an easy close anyway. I'm sure they would nickel and dime every little thing an inspector might find as well and start demanding we leave items they didn't include in the deal.
The whole circumstances around that appraisal seem kind of odd.
Since I wrote the above, I was on the phone with one of the agents that I have a closing with next week. He is also owns a mortgage franchise. I was telling him about mine that fell through, and then about yours. He said he's never sent an appraiser out prior to inking contract. Here, an appraisal isn't ordered until the buyer's loan has been approved.
You are probably better off without them. I have seen lots of buyers try to "nickel and dime" sellers over a home inspection. It usually ends up with both sides getting pissed off and the agents shaking their heads. I have always told my buyers to save their arrows for the big stuff...do not ask a seller to change a GFI plug or put new air return filters in!
Years ago, I represented a seller, and the buyers "list" from the home inspection was one of the "n and d" type. When they did their walk through..their agent called to tell me the sellers had missed replacing a 9v battery in one of the smoke detectors. (my sellers had even had to scrap a few paint drops off of 3 heat vents!) .....I told the agent he needed to stop at Wal-mart on the way to the closing and pick up some batteries for his clients! He did.
We get to the closing ....and the buyer wife had diamonds on that were gigantic!!! In her ears, on her fingers, around her neck! (The buyers' agent told me after the closing that the diamonds were real...he'd known them since he was a kid, they were friends of his parents). The home inspector had this stuff in the inspection report and by God, she was going to have all of it done by the seller...whether it was reasonable or not.
Keep remembering that if all else fails.....at least the company will buy the house and you're not having to worry about 2 mortgages.....and that's a good thing.
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The whole circumstances around that appraisal seem kind of odd.
Since I wrote the above, I was on the phone with one of the agents that I have a closing with next week. He is also owns a mortgage franchise. I was telling him about mine that fell through, and then about yours. He said he's never sent an appraiser out prior to inking contract. Here, an appraisal isn't ordered until the buyer's loan has been approved.
You are probably better off without them. I have seen lots of buyers try to "nickel and dime" sellers over a home inspection. It usually ends up with both sides getting pissed off and the agents shaking their heads. I have always told my buyers to save their arrows for the big stuff...do not ask a seller to change a GFI plug or put new air return filters in!
Years ago, I represented a seller, and the buyers "list" from the home inspection was one of the "n and d" type. When they did their walk through..their agent called to tell me the sellers had missed replacing a 9v battery in one of the smoke detectors. (my sellers had even had to scrap a few paint drops off of 3 heat vents!) .....I told the agent he needed to stop at Wal-mart on the way to the closing and pick up some batteries for his clients! He did.
We get to the closing ....and the buyer wife had diamonds on that were gigantic!!! In her ears, on her fingers, around her neck! (The buyers' agent told me after the closing that the diamonds were real...he'd known them since he was a kid, they were friends of his parents). The home inspector had this stuff in the inspection report and by God, she was going to have all of it done by the seller...whether it was reasonable or not.
Keep remembering that if all else fails.....at least the company will buy the house and you're not having to worry about 2 mortgages.....and that's a good thing.
Replace a 9 volt battery? LOL Sounds like something that would happen to us. I bet you could tell stories...LOL
Can you believe that way a lot of people live? A great number of houses we looked at were trashed and filthy. I was truly shocked. I must be naive.
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Never bought or sold a house, but moving in and out of military housing is almost as bad as that 9V thing deb said...
They will turn on all the lights in the house on your move out inspection. God forbid you have one that burned out and no replacements, they charge 25 bucks for a union electrician to come change it.
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Replace a 9 volt battery? LOL Sounds like something that would happen to us. I bet you could tell stories...LOL
Can you believe that way a lot of people live? A great number of houses we looked at were trashed and filthy. I was truly shocked. I must be naive.
You would be so shocked....especially if you are real anal about things being antiseptic clean in your own home. I'm not....in my own house, yet I am going into a hotel/public restroom. In my house, it's my germs...so it doesn't bother me as much.
However, to go into someone else's house....I just cringe. I always tell my sellers that I expect you to live in your house, and I don't expect it to be immaculate 24/7....however....I do expect dirty dishes to be in the sink only, dirty clothes to only be in the hamper/laundry basket, wastebaskets empty, toilet seats down, and no sign of feminine hygiene products anywhere...in a container or used!! Also guns locked up, no jewelry, money, or perscriptions visible. And if they have pets, make sure the litter box is clean and no poop anywhere!
I took buyers back for a 3rd look on a house once, they loved it and just wanted to check a few things before we wrote the offer. Two gay guys lived in the house... lots of artwork of male nudes is a dead giveaway! ::)....we went in the bathroom and there were several Rx bottles on the vanity. They turned around and walked out, said they changed their mind. When I asked them why....when they saw the Rx bottles, they were afraid one or both of the owners had HIV/AIDS. That was all it took to keep them from buying a dynamite house!
Another house, again it was maybe 6-7 yrs ago....$400,000 house...which is a lot here, and was a whole lot back then. Took buyers twice to the house. Both times, in the daughter's room and connecting bath, were dirty undies laying in several places on the floor. Second time....used hygiene products visible. I was so embarassed. I wasn't even the listing agent....but the buyer husband was really embarassed, therefore I was. My daughter would have been in so much trouble, even if my house wasn't for sale!! :o No excuse!
I still get shocked when I go into some foreclosures. The condition that some are in....gosh...I have to wonder how they weren't condemned. But here, if you live in the county, which more live in the county than inside the city limits....property doesn't get condemned. Only within the city. I was in one before I went up to Maine, that I was doing a report for the bank, the list agent told me he had gone in with a shovel to get the hypodermic needles out!
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Never bought or sold a house, but moving in and out of military housing is almost as bad as that 9V thing deb said...
They will turn on all the lights in the house on your move out inspection. God forbid you have one that burned out and no replacements, they charge 25 bucks for a union electrician to come change it.
I had a land lady nit pick me to death after moving out. I had even moved out two weeks early, so she could start to get it ready. (Repairs, not due to me, had to be made-water leak around window, stove not staying lit, etc)
My deposit was not a "cleaning deposit" yet, she docked it $70. I left it pretty clean, but of course when you are trying to clean and move to another state, going in and out, things are missed. God forbid, I forgot to take down two of the light globes and clean them!!! :-) The stove was junk & old...I explained to her that is was just as clean as when I moved in (on the outside it looked new, on the inside it was full of white ash from the bad burners, etc) she told me she was going to be repalcing the 30 year old stove/oven so I did not waste alot of time cleaing it. In fact the natrural gas company said it was not safe six months prior and would not light it, LOL
I was charged for cleaning it! I made it clear that I was leaving a couple items (land lady was right there when we had the conversation) for the young lady moving in that did not have eveyrthing she needed....I was charged for "taking items to dumpster" LOL! It was simply a lamp, chair, table and like new microwave, I was trying to help the girl out, and was charged for it!
It ended up being only $70 but it all still really pissed me off. While living there we had a sump pump failure, I missed a day of work as the place was so musty I could not breath, had to stay elsewhere for two days, and move all the stuff myself for her half-assed carpet cleaner....then later I found wet carpet around other insdie walls, that they missed...all while she told me "I don't smell anything" even the carpet cleaner told her "you are nuts" LOL
I'm glad I don't rent anymore! It was a nice apt overall, and the price was great and for a while right next door to where I worked.
The kicker was, being told I had to keep the utilities in my name until the end of the month...even though I would not be living there...screw that.