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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on April 26, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5540626
dsc (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 07:30 PM
Original message
An honest question to those who defend gays not being allowed to give blood
I am an organ donor. I was in Ohio and am again in NC. Not once was I asked if I had sex with a male last week let alone since 1977. So I have a simple question. If having sex with males makes my blood unsafe, why doesn't it make my organs similarly unsafe?
AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
11. Your organs are tested more thoughly than blood.
Gays can give blood. No one has to tell the truth to the questions they ask. You aren't under oath. They ask the questions as a screening process. The blood is tested but given the amount of blood tested it is not 100% perfect. I travel frequently out of the country. If I told the truth about travels I would not be allowed to give blood. I do not tell the truth. If you want to make a political point (in your own mind) and not give blood, fine. But you are costing someone their life or health to make a petty point. Hope you feel good about yourself.
This guy should be hung upside down and his throat slit and drained like a pig.
prolesunited (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. And you're lying on a health questionnaire
AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Yes. Not under oath.
Do you have a problem with that? Let's hear it.
Bunch of sick ****s ( I tried to think of another way to describe them but couldn't)
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Yes. Not under oath.
Do you have a problem with that? Let's hear it.
I think the entire population has a problem with that. It's also possible to spend 20 years behind bars for knowingly tainting the blood supply. And *YES* it can be traced back to you.
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You need to read the whole thread. This guy is a piece of shit. Top of the DUmmy list.
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Yes. Not under oath.
Do you have a problem with that? Let's hear it.
Hey, if you want to be charged with premeditated murder, go right ahead.
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
58. i figured as much. problem is... ANYONE can have AIDS. so therefore
no one should be able to give blood. A 36 year old married mother of 2.4 kids is as likely to contract the disease as anyone else. Though, i know that I do not have a high probability because i do not do drugs, i do not have sex outside my marriage and i haven't ever had a transfusion. but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. it isn't any more possible for a gay person than for anyone else. period. instead of being hysterical about it, the same history they ask everyone else should be applied to a gay donor and take it from there.
^^^^^^How, I ask dumbfounded and stunned, does that post make any sense? DUmmie ejoeta just made a good case for keeping the blood of homosexuals out of the blood supply - and she's too stupid to know it. I think she wants us to believe AIDS is airborn or transmitted by osmosis.
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Damn, I wish we knew more details about this chickenshit so we could report him to the organizations he's been donating blood to.
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Damn, I wish we knew more details about this chickenshit so we could report him to the organizations he's been donating blood to.
he claims to be a defense attorney in Arizona.
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he claims to be a defense attorney in Arizona.
You are an admin Chris... Trace his IP.
:uhsure:
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he claims to be a defense attorney in Arizona.
Keep him away from any hospitals I might need blood from. How arrogant does a person have to be to believe that their blood is so special and significant that a blood donation center must accept it. If he really cared that much about blood donations, he could sponsor a blood drive, volunteer at a blood drive, encourage everybody he knows to give blood, and provide a much more significant amount of blood that his little, political, pint.
Statistically, homosexual men are more likely to have AIDS than heterosexuals. It is the same reason that people who have spent time in African cannot donate blood. Heck, if you've spent enough time in Europe you are ineligible, because of Mad Cow disease. You are ineligible if you've gotten a tattoo in the past year, or if you've spent 24 hours in prison. Quite simply, the blood is tested, but nothing is perfect, so high risk populations are screened out. AIDS does not show up in blood tests for 6 months, if I'm not mistaken. The safety of the person who needs the blood is much more important than the "feelings" of the donor.
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This entire thread merely demonstrates how strong the "stupid" is with the DU crowd.
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Attn. Jendf. and BC.
Don't have surgery where you need blood in Az. anytime in the near future. :whistling:
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This entire thread merely demonstrates how strong the "stupid" is with the DU crowd.
This is beyond stupid.
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Looks like AZ Criminal JD got the granite slab.
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Looks like AZ Criminal JD got the granite slab.
That's a worthy TSing. ****er could kill someone.
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That's a worthy TSing. ****er could kill someone.
The only problem is that he is still out there donating blood anonymously.
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The only problem is that he is still out there donating blood anonymously.
True, but at least he's lost a platform from which to spew his BS.
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Un****ingBelievable! Who, in their right mind, would put others in danger for their own self interest?
We need to do everything in our power to expose this POS before he/she/it/other, klills an inoccent!!!!
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Holy cow! Do they even bother to look at statistics? Why do they think it's only AIDS? There are all sorts of nasties that homosexuals and druggies are more exposed to than non illicit drug using heterosexuals, probably some we don't even know about yet.
Hey DUmmies, AIDS is still a confined disease. Don't engage in certain activities and your chances of catching it approach nil. Engage in those activities and your chances increase by orders of magnitude. The Public health authorities are still allowed to recognize this, which is why the pole smokers can't give blood.
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After reading a couple of his other posts (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8270803), it looks like this guy is a professional asshole and a real piece of work. I'm not surprised he's a lawyer.
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True, but at least he's lost a platform from which to spew his BS.
Typical liberal approach: try to delete the problem and ignore it, rather than informing on someone who could be affecting public health. Assholes.
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Attn. Jendf. and BC.
Don't have surgery where you need blood in Az. anytime in the near future. :whistling:
A lot of places nowadays let you donate blood to yourself prior to a scheduled surgery, specifically so that you don't run the risk of catching social deseases from scumbags like these DUmbasses.
What Jendf and BC need to avoid like the plague are the unexpected things - like traffic accidents, bar fights, drive-by shootings...
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Looks like AZ Criminal JD got the granite slab.
I hope Skinner tells the AZ authorities what this person was saying.
and it confirms that Skinner monitors this site.
Hello skinz!
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I haven't given blood in quite a while... aren't you required to show a picture ID?
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I lost a friend to HIV due to contaminated blood.
This pisses me off.
He was kicked out of the private school I graduated from due to false fears, and was the first student in Illinois to attend a public High School while HIV positive. RIP, Jeff Proctor
He opened the door for the acceptence of innocent HIV victums in high schools nation wide. He had a brave fight.
Proctor's acceptance was facilitated by the fact that he had acquired HIV through a contaminated blood product and not through homosexual activity and was therefore regarded as an "innocent victim"
http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=126784
This DUmmie lying to give blood should be locked up.
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It should. This could be a serious health threat.
Chris, Rob I have updated the Story Board at the LibertyFic site.
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And just where is that Iraqi with the crazy glue when you really need him?
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
58. What about straight women who have anal sex? They're at higher risk for HIV, too.
And as a matter of fact, a lot of "straight" males are at much higher risk for HIV infection than gay males, precisely because those "straight" males don't consider themselves to be gay even though they engage in male-to-male sex, including anal sex. They're less likely to practice safe sex and they're less likely to have only one male partner. Those are facts, too, that many people don't want to hear.
The fact is that many straight couples engage in anal sex, and many supposedly straight men engage in anal sex with other men, and all those people are at as high or higher risk than a monogamous gay couple, particularly if said gay couple doesn't even engage in anal sex (gasp! I know it's hard to imagine, but some gay people don't have butt sex).
Yardwork needs to be banned for saying "anal sex" too many times in one post! She must really dig it by the way! :-)
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And as a matter of fact, a lot of "straight" males are at much higher risk for HIV infection than gay males, precisely because those "straight" males don't consider themselves to be gay even though they engage in male-to-male sex, including anal sex. They're less likely to practice safe sex and they're less likely to have only one male partner. Those are facts, too, that many people don't want to hear.
This one makes my head hurt.
You DUmb shit. If they're butt plugging Steve, they're not straight.
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Yardwork needs to be banned for saying "anal sex" too many times in one post! She must really dig it by the way! :-)
Yardwork needs to be educated. It's not the type of sex that spreads AIDS, it's the partners involved. Hetero couples that are monogamous have zero chance of getting AIDS no matter how they enjoy themselves. Homos OTOH, have been known to be notoriously UNmonogamous, and that causes the major problem.
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
58. i figured as much. problem is... ANYONE can have AIDS. so therefore
no one should be able to give blood. A 36 year old married mother of 2.4 kids is as likely to contract the disease as anyone else. Though, i know that I do not have a high probability because i do not do drugs, i do not have sex outside my marriage and i haven't ever had a transfusion. but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. it isn't any more possible for a gay person than for anyone else. period. instead of being hysterical about it, the same history they ask everyone else should be applied to a gay donor and take it from there.
I love when dummies rail against science when it conflicts with their political agenda(something they so often accuse those on the right of). No, ejpoeta, you are not as likely to contract it as an actively sexual gay man. Unless all of a sudden the potential transmission avenues like saliva that you discounted when you were trying to coddle HIV positive gays and make them FEEL better is now a valid and PROLIFIC avenue of transmission? Funny how unlikely transmission avenues are not likely or highly likely depending which way a gay could be offended.
And what she's saying flies in the face of scientific evidence. Regular heterosexual activity with two heterosexual individuals has not been shown to increase trasmission as it does with two homosexual individuals. I suppose she could argue a female recieving anal sex from a bisexual man has just as high a liklihood, but let's face it, that doesn't define the majority of 'mothers with 2.4 children'. Hell, most of them are lucky to give up 'traditional' sex to their monogamous husbands, let alone entertain the thought of anal with strangers. Stupid dummies. :whatever:
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #80
81. Remember the days when whites didn't want black blood?
They came up with all sort of reasons why it was "bad".
It is the same thing here.
All blood is tested.
The rule just conveniently keeps people from getting tainted with teh gay.
No, I don't remember those days. And you don't either, DUmbass.
Once again we get the DUmmie ilk insulting black people by comparing the past plight of blacks to the demand for special rights for homosexuals. How insulting and racist can they get?
Not wanting to receive "black blood" was based on ignorance and prejudice. Not wanting to die from "queer blood" is based on science, actual events, common sense, common knowledge, and self-preservation.
See how stupid and baseless it is to compare the two?
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I love when dummies rail against science when it conflicts with their political agenda(something they so often accuse those on the right of). No, ejpoeta, you are not as likely to contract it as an actively sexual gay man. Unless all of a sudden the potential transmission avenues like saliva that you discounted when you were trying to coddle HIV positive gays and make them FEEL better is now a valid and PROLIFIC avenue of transmission? Funny how unlikely transmission avenues are not likely or highly likely depending which way a gay could be offended.
And what she's saying flies in the face of scientific evidence. Regular heterosexual activity with two heterosexual individuals has not been shown to increase trasmission as it does with two homosexual individuals. I suppose she could argue a female recieving anal sex from a bisexual man has just as high a liklihood, but let's face it, that doesn't define the majority of 'mothers with 2.4 children'. Hell, most of them are lucky to give up 'traditional' sex to their monogamous husbands, let alone entertain the thought of anal with strangers. Stupid dummies. :whatever:
Ya know...For a group of people who claim to know so much about homosexuals they are pretty clueless. Gay men are some of the horniest bastards around{To be expected because they are still men and most men are oversexed to begin with} I know gay men who will have mulitiple partners in an evening let alone a week or a month or a year. The reason they don't want homosexual blood is because homosexual men are very premiscuous. I remember in the 80s when they closed the bathhouses down in SF....Jesus You would have thought they cut the arms off of all gay males in SF with the screaming and outrage. They found that those bath houses were spreading HIV like wildfire through the gay community!
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I think the entire population has a problem with that. It's also possible to spend 20 years behind bars for knowingly tainting the blood supply. And *YES* it can be traced back to you.
Ah, the wonders of simple paperwork.
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No, I don't remember those days. And you don't either, DUmbass.
Once again we get the DUmmie ilk insulting black people by comparing the past plight of blacks to the demand for special rights for homosexuals. How insulting and racist can they get?
Not wanting to receive "black blood" was based on ignorance and prejudice. Not wanting to die from "queer blood" is based on science, actual events, common sense, common knowledge, and self-preservation.
See how stupid and baseless it is to compare the two?
Being black does not open the door to contracting all sorts of diseases. Being gay does, however. That so many DUmp monkeys do not know this or accept this proves exactly how anti-science they are.
I would gladly accept blood donated from a gay person if that blood were guaranteed to be safe and disease free. Sadly, a large portion of the gay population has blood-borne diseases and worse still, many of them don't even know it. Thus the prohibitions.
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Just look up "gay bowel syndrome"....seems they're walking disease dispensaries.
That is if they haven't succeded in having the term removed from the medical books.
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Being black does not open the door to contracting all sorts of diseases. Being gay does, however. That so many DUmp monkeys do not know this or accept this proves exactly how anti-science they are.
I would gladly accept blood donated from a gay person if that blood were guaranteed to be safe and disease free. Sadly, a large portion of the gay population has blood-borne diseases and worse still, many of them don't even know it. Thus the prohibitions.
They talk big on the Internet, but before they go under general anesthetic, show them two coolers full of blood: one marked "San Francisco Bathhouse Blood Drive," and one marked, "Suburban Public Library Blood Drive," and see which one they pick.
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-26-09 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
58. What about straight women who have anal sex? They're at higher risk for HIV, too.
And as a matter of fact, a lot of "straight" males are at much higher risk for HIV infection than gay males, precisely because those "straight" males don't consider themselves to be gay even though they engage in male-to-male sex, including anal sex. They're less likely to practice safe sex and they're less likely to have only one male partner. Those are facts, too, that many people don't want to hear.
Okay, but wouldn't one need to have anal sex with an infected person to get AIDS? I mean, if one is having anal sex with one's husband and neither has had sex outside the marriage (we'll assume neither is a drug addict) how the heck is one going to contract AIDS? Do these people have no fricking idea how AIDS is spread?
Cindie
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Okay, but wouldn't one need to have anal sex with an infected person to get AIDS? I mean, if one is having anal sex with one's husband and neither has had sex outside the marriage (we'll assume neither is a drug addict) how the heck is one going to contract AIDS? Do these people have no fricking idea how AIDS is spread?
Cindie
I know! I know! The AIDS virus lies dormant in every anus (we are all born with it) and it becomes active when rubbed, like a magic lamp, by a penis. It all makes sense to me now.
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A lot of places nowadays let you donate blood to yourself prior to a scheduled surgery, specifically so that you don't run the risk of catching social deseases from scumbags like these DUmbasses.
What Jendf and BC need to avoid like the plague are the unexpected things - like traffic accidents, bar fights, drive-by shootings...
YEP! I've had surgery several times and ALWAYS went in to donate my OWN blood "just in case"!
Problem is, if you have an accident you don't have the oportunity to donate, hence the danger.
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I know! I know! The AIDS virus lies dormant in every anus (we are all born with it) and it becomes active when rubbed, like a magic lamp, by a penis. It all makes sense to me now.
That sounds like something from "South Park". lol
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That sounds like something from "South Park". lol
Hey dude! Haven't you heard that song from ABBA? Pig and Elephant DNA just don't mix...
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many supposedly straight men engage in anal sex with other men, and all those people are at as high or higher risk than a monogamous gay couple
This has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read! I sure as hell do not know of a "straight" man who has anal sex with another straight man! That is the most absurd thing I have ever read! If you are pokin' poopers, you're a frikkin fag! No ifs, ands, or BUTTS! (pun intended)
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This has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read! I sure as hell do not know of a "straight" man who has anal sex with another straight man! That is the most absurd thing I have ever read! If you are pokin' poopers, you're a frikkin fag! No ifs, ands, or BUTTS! (pun intended)
I think the DUmmies must be including prison rape or maybe they are just trying to justify their own gay tendencies as "normal".
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Hey dude! Haven't you heard that song from ABBA? Pig and Elephant DNA just don't mix...
There was something in my ass that night
It was good'n tight, fernando
AIDS was waiting there for you and me
For barebacking, Fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
Theres no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, Fernando
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There was something in my ass that night
It was good'n tight, fernando
AIDS was waiting there for you and me
For barebacking, Fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
Theres no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, Fernando
Don't quit your day job. :evillaugh: :uhsure:
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Don't quit your day job. :evillaugh: :uhsure:
No Shit! That was terrible!
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No Shit! That was terrible!
I thought it was some of my best work.
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I thought it was some of my best work.
C'mon Undies, you really have to try harder. I'm used to a higher calibre coming from you! :cheersmate:
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C'mon Undies, you really have to try harder. I'm used to a higher calibre coming from you! :cheersmate:
Then you try to make an ABBA song fit in a thread with "Corn Holer" in the title.
(UMMMM. Corn. :drool: )
("How much is corn?" "Why, it's a buccaneer!")
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Being black does not open the door to contracting all sorts of diseases. Being gay does, however. That so many DUmp monkeys do not know this or accept this proves exactly how anti-science they are.
I would gladly accept blood donated from a gay person if that blood were guaranteed to be safe and disease free. Sadly, a large portion of the gay population has blood-borne diseases and worse still, many of them don't even know it. Thus the prohibitions.
They talk big on the Internet, but before they go under general anesthetic, show them two coolers full of blood: one marked "San Francisco Bathhouse Blood Drive," and one marked, "Suburban Public Library Blood Drive," and see which one they pick.
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There was something in my ass that night
It was good'n tight, fernando
AIDS was waiting there for you and me
For barebacking, Fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
Theres no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, Fernando
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
H5!
But, the problem with that is that I just sang that set of lyrics . . . in my head. Now, I won't get that damned song out of my head for a week.
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:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
H5!
But, the problem with that is that I just sang that set of lyrics . . . in my head. Now, I won't get that damned song out of my head for a week.
Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I have the song in my head too. I tried singing "Dancing Queen" to get it out, but it didn't work.
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Then you try to make an ABBA song fit in a thread with "Corn Holer" in the title.
(UMMMM. Corn. :drool: )
("How much is corn?" "Why, it's a buccaneer!")
Ummmmmm........okay I submit! Don't know how in the world I could do that, Obeewan! I don't have the ability to rely on the force in any way close to your natural ability. :bow:
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Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I have the song in my head too. I tried singing "Dancing Queen" to get it out, but it didn't work.
I want the "old" one that was in my head--"Kooky Is Cool" from the band that does the Wow Wow Wubbzy! music.
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I want the "old" one that was in my head--"Kooky Is Cool" from the band that does the Wow Wow Wubbzy! music.
Wow Wow Wubbzy Wubbzy Wubbzy Wow Wow. Wow Wow Wow.
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Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I have the song in my head too. I tried singing "Dancing Queen" to get it out, but it didn't work.
Gee. Thanks Undies. Now I've got this mental picture of Bwarney Fwank doing the Samba in a disco dress running through my head, and no spork to get it out with.
:rotf: :lmao: :hammer: :rotf: :tongue: :lmao: :fuelfire:
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Wow Wow Wubbzy Wubbzy Wubbzy Wow Wow. Wow Wow Wow.
Wooowww!
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Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated. I have the song in my head too. I tried singing "Dancing Queen" to get it out, but it didn't work.
Wouldn't that be the "Banking Queen"?
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Wouldn't that be the "Banking Queen"?
I know nothing about "Banking Queen". Never heard of it. I don't listen to that hatemonger Rash Limpballs.
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I know nothing about "Banking Queen". Never heard of it. I don't listen to that hatemonger Rash Limpballs.
:o Well shut my mouf.
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:o Well shut my mouf.
No.. he listens to the soothing and calming message of Alex Jones instead... :mental:
/sarc
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I know nothing about "Banking Queen". Never heard of it. I don't listen to that hatemonger Rash Limpballs.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CT6HIDPbPc[/youtube]
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KIDDING!!
I helped Paul (Shanklin) write it, but I told him (and Rush) NOT to give me credit. :innocent:
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:banghead:
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KIDDING!!
I helped Paul (Shanklin) write it, but I told him (and Rush) NOT to give me credit. :innocent:
If you say that TiTty-boy was backing you up on guitar, you get a bitchslap an hour for the next 30 days, Señor G-String...
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If you say that TiTty-boy was backing you up on guitar, you get a bitchslap an hour for the next 30 days, Señor G-String...
Of course I wouldn't say that. TiTty-boy was on the drums.
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KIDDING!!
I helped Paul (Shanklin) write it, but I told him (and Rush) NOT to give me credit. :innocent:
I knew that. Only Rush listeners would know the relationship between "Banking Queen" and "Dancing Queen"
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Late to this thread, but just woke the hubby and chihuahuas laughing so hard. L. Undies, please work on some new lyrics posthaste, as those will be me for some time. :bow:
Is it me, or are they also not thinking about all those people who are randomly permiscuous with just anyone? They would be at high risk, also, due to the fact they have no idea who all the folks they slept with had been with. They could be involved only in hetero sex, and wham! So, I think the Red Cross should ask your sexual, uhm, habits, so to speak. When I found out the wife beating ex was also cheating on me, (imagine that!), I had tests done ASAP. I also would never have dreamed of giving blood, as I saw pics of what he slept with, and heard about her fondness for meeting guys/girls who traveled to her town. She and her friend hung out a motels. Lovely, lovely girls. :censored: