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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on April 07, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-07-09 05:22 PM
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We’re Screwed and I think you know it.
Skinner, admins, my criticism here of the Democratic Party is aimed at the corporatists that control the Party and not all Democrats. There are a lot of great Democrats in this country, they just aren’t in control. I am a strong Democrat and will continue to work to throw out the corporatists that control our party.
And if I am off base here, I am sure you will let me know.
I appreciate the optimists among us that say things like “let’s vote the Dino’s out in the primariesâ€. Oh that sounds so nice. I bet they feel sooo much better saying that. But unless things change radically, there isn’t a chance in hell that any Democrat is going to be voted out in a primary, at least Senators. This is delusional. Yes they did manage it once that I know of in CT. It took a lot of personal wealth and hard work but the grass roots Democrats did manage to oust one of the worst Senators, Lieberman. But the Democratic ole boys club spit on the people and came to the rescue of good ole joe, one of the group (group? Clearly not a Democratic group. No, the ruling class group, Democrat, Republican, it don’t matter).
It is swell thinking we have a legitimate two party system. IMO it is only an illusion. Let’s just get in there and take the Democratic Party away from the corporate powers (read DLC). Yes, Howard Dean showed em. He rallied the grass roots Dems into electing Pres Obama. What did the Democratic machine think about that. With no apologizes, they once again spit in the faces of the grass roots Democrats and fired Dean. The DLC corporatists are in control and don’t forget it.
Did you notice that during the bush first 6 years the Democrats did very little slow the march toward fascism? Some even sided with the fascists. They supported the illegal invasion of Iraq etc etc (you know the list). They didn’t even dare to filibuster. But in 2006 when they took control (so to speak) they allowed the republiCons to filibuster (95 times in 2008) with out as much as a whimper.
So the American people think “we need more Democrats in Congress, yeah that’ll do it.†Maybe not Martha. Now that we have close to 60 Democratic Senators (60 because the republiCons are guaranteed to filibuster everything, something the Democrats should have done between 2000 and 2006), now this group of blue dog Democrat bastards emerge. You see they weren’t needed in the last eight years because the republiCons had control and the Democrats wouldn’t filibuster. But now when the corporatists get their way (e.g. the Kyl-Lincoln estate tax amendment), the blue dogs can be blamed and the rest can pretend their hands are tied. Sen Reid even comes to the defense of the blue dogs.
But this all makes sense if you realize that there are two basic classes in this Country, the ruling class and the rest of us. These two classes and the two political parties don’t align. And why would one even think they would? Most of the Congress-critters are wealthy and card carrying members of the ruling class. Most need to be replaced with honest, hard working Americans from the middle class.
It’s not hopeless, but we got to do a hell of a lot more than we are today. How many trillions of dollars of the future middle class’s money do we let them give to the wealthy before we say E-****ing-nuff .
PS: It was pointed out to me that another Democrat (other than Liarman) was voted out in a primary in 1972. Thanks for the data point. Any others?
Yikes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5409776
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Wow. The "blue-dog corporate Dems," as this kook refers to them, are the only group that's keeping the Dem party even mildly close to sane, and therefore electable, and they want to toss them out? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face, the primitives excell at it.
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The Rhett Butler primitive doesn't understand a basic fundamental elementary characteristic of American politics, or of physics.
For every action, there is an equally strong reaction.
Politics are not static; they are constantly evolving, constantly shifting.
If there were 100 socialists in the U.S. Senate, for example, which apparently is what the Rhett Butler primitive wants, inevitably they would splinter (either amicably or otherwise), as things seek an "equilibrium."
It's a damned good thing, too.
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The Rhett Butler primitive doesn't understand a basic fundamental elementary characteristic of American politics, or of physics.
For every action, there is an equally strong reaction.
Politics are not static; they are constantly evolving, constantly shifting.
If there were 100 socialists in the U.S. Senate, for example, which apparently is what the Rhett Butler primitive wants, inevitably they would splinter (either amicably or otherwise), as things seek an "equilibrium."
It's a damned good thing, too.
And this is why the election of the Obamessiah will cause a serious conservative to come through the ranks and win the Presidency in 2012. Someone along the lines of Sarah Palin.
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And this is why the election of the Obamessiah will cause a serious conservative to come through the ranks and win the Presidency in 2012. Someone along the lines of Sarah Palin.
From your keyboard to God's inbox!
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From your keyboard to God's inbox!
It can be explained by Sir Isaac Newton--or by the Coach. Either way, it's similar to death and taxes. It always happens.
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if your screwed and you know it .. clap your hands
if your screwed and you know it... clap your hands
If your screwed and you know it and your life would surely show it, clap your hands