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Title: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Miss Mia on March 05, 2009, 09:32:29 AM
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Source: Dallas Cowboys release Terrell Owens (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030509dnspotoblog.40e65ca.html)

IRVING – Wide receiver Terrell Owens, whose future with the Dallas Cowboys has been in question since the off-season began, was cut late Wednesday night, according to a source.

 Owner and general manager Jerry Jones hinted at Owens' return at a news conference two weeks ago but never definitively said Owens would be back for the 2009 season. Last week at the NFL scouting combine, Jones said the media caught his "drift" about Owens' return but did not elaborate.

Efforts to reach the Cowboys for comment were unsuccessful late Wednesday night. Owens was unable to be reached, and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not return phone calls or e-mail.

A spokesman for Owens told The Associated Press said he hadn't heard the news, originally reported by ESPN.

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Well, that's not surprising. 
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
Brady to Moss,  Brady to TO, Brady to Welker....... in a perfect world I can dream right? 
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
Brady to Moss,  Brady to TO, Brady to Welker....... in a perfect world I can dream right? 

Why ruin the team chemistry.  You guys have enough weapons without TO.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 05:55:22 PM
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New England Patriots T.O. Index 22

Receiver need: Low. They already have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. We saw what happened in Dallas when Owens didn't think he was getting enough attention from Tony Romo. The Patriots might need another receiver after losing Jabar Gaffney to free agency, but I think Moss and Owens on the same team with Tom Brady is against the Geneva Convention.


http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation?tag=does%20owens%20fit


 :-)

Can you imagine it though -- especially if BB can make him a team player?  

Brady would break records like you wouldn't believe.   The Pats would go undefeated.........


Too bad he is a total putz.   :bawl:
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
Why ruin the team chemistry.  You guys have enough weapons without TO.

BB tamed Moss, and Moss unlike TO, was known for giving up on his team on the field.   TO has NEVER done that.  He make be a puke of the highest order, but he always plays hard.   

The Patriots locker room would never stand for TO being TO.    If BB nabs him at discount prices on a one year incentive contract then just damn skippy.   Sit back and watch history be made.

[/insert dream sequence here cause it will never happen....]
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Oriole Fan on March 05, 2009, 06:35:28 PM
BB tamed Moss, and Moss unlike TO, was known for giving up on his team on the field.   TO has NEVER done that.  He make be a puke of the highest order, but he always plays hard.   

The Patriots locker room would never stand for TO being TO.    If BB nabs him at discount prices on a one year incentive contract then just damn skippy.   Sit back and watch history be made.

[/insert dream sequence here cause it will never happen....]

and Corey Dillon and Rodney Harrison
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 06:42:35 PM
any team that doesn't want TO is insane.  including the cowboys.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
BB tamed Moss, and Moss unlike TO, was known for giving up on his team on the field.   TO has NEVER done that.  He make be a puke of the highest order, but he always plays hard.   

The Patriots locker room would never stand for TO being TO.    If BB nabs him at discount prices on a one year incentive contract then just damn skippy.   Sit back and watch history be made.

[/insert dream sequence here cause it will never happen....]

  BB has done some remarkable things with his current roster.  I don't know if he can change TO.  To his credit Owens never gives up, but I think that same mind set keeps his mouth running when he should shut the hell up.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2009, 06:44:58 PM
any team that doesn't want TO is insane.  including the cowboys.

I'd say the exact opposite. TO is a cancer to any team's morale and camaraderie.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
any team that doesn't want TO is insane.  including the cowboys.

  I don't want him on the Packers, not that we would even try to get him.  I won't deny that he is an incredibly gifted receiver, but IMHO he is the worst kind of cancer you can bring into a locker room.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 07:02:58 PM
  I don't want him on the Packers, not that we would even try to get him.  I won't deny that he is an incredibly gifted receiver, but IMHO he is the worst kind of cancer you can bring into a locker room.

as a huge packers fan, I would hope that ted thompson is dialing TO's manager's number right now. 
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Odin's Hand on March 05, 2009, 07:05:19 PM
Please Lord, let T.O. end up on the Giants' roster...
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: ReardenSteel on March 05, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
I've hated* T.O. for so long I would have a hard time seeing him on my beloved Seahawks. But I can't deny that he would make the team awful damn good. Scary good. (OK, I want him in Seattle... maybe)

In other news, Jason Witten fantasy stock value is at an all time high.


*Yeah, I "hate" Owens but get real. This is just sportsfan, he's the villain, why ya gotta be an asshole "hate" not real hate. I'd be happy to get his autograph (if only to sell it on e-bay) and I would not feel that way about, say, Algore.

Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Miss Mia on March 05, 2009, 07:31:31 PM
I'd say the exact opposite. TO is a cancer to any team's morale and camaraderie.

Agreed.


as a huge packers fan, I would hope that ted thompson is dialing TO's manager's number right now. 

I'm hoping that's happening too.   :-)
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2009, 07:32:04 PM
Please Lord, let T.O. end up on the Giants' roster...

You are now officially on my shit list.  :censored:


 :-)
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
BTW, we had a guy as egotistical as he was on the Giants roster (my #2 team). His name was Tiki Barber. When he retired and got tired of talking trash about our QB and team, we won the Superbowl.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 07:38:00 PM
Agreed.


I'm hoping that's happening too.   :-)

see you in the NFCC, sweets. :wink:

Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 07:42:52 PM
BTW, we had a guy as egotistical as he was on the Giants roster (my #2 team). His name was Tiki Barber. When he retired and got tired of talking trash about our QB and team, we won the Superbowl.

Yeah it was Tiki that kept ya down.   I guess I was the only one who read (and immensely enjoyed) the Eli bashing in the media 24/7.

Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 07:43:38 PM
Please Lord, let T.O. end up on the Giants' roster...

The Giants and Jets have already said no thanks.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 05, 2009, 07:44:31 PM
and Corey Dillon and Rodney Harrison

Word!
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Odin's Hand on March 05, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
The Giants and Jets have already said no thanks.

Eh, we'll see how their tune changes after the Burress reinstatement works, or doesn't work, out. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Redskins' uni. also.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 07:55:47 PM
as a huge packers fan, I would hope that ted thompson is dialing TO's manager's number right now. 

I'm happy to know there is more than one of us rooting for the Pack, but I have to disagree on us even contemplating calling TO's agent.  We have hole in the offense, but at the tackle postions, both left and right, not the receivers.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 08:00:48 PM
I'm happy to know there is more than one of us rooting for the Pack, but I have to disagree on us even contemplating calling TO's agent.  We have hole in the offense, but at the tackle postions, both left and right, not the receivers.

we have a hole in the entire defense, considering how old harrris and woodson are getting.  and hawk is almost a bust.  the packers scored enough points to go .500, but rogers has got to find a way to pull a game out in the last two minutes.  now, I know that coming after favre, that is a tough act to follow, but he had EIGHT chances to come from behind last season and either win, or tie.  he got zero.

Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Oriole Fan on March 05, 2009, 08:11:05 PM
Eh, we'll see how their tune changes after the Burress reinstatement works, or doesn't work, out. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Redskins' uni. also.

That wouldn't be a good fit given the type of team they are. He seemed to act fine the year Philly went to the Super Bowl and he was fine two years ago when Dallas was 12-4 and the number seed in the NFC. It's when a team starts to slide you see the worst of him.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Odin's Hand on March 05, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
That wouldn't be a good fit given the type of team they are. He seemed to act fine the year Philly went to the Super Bowl and he was fine two years ago when Dallas was 12-4 and the number seed in the NFC. It's when a team starts to slide you see the worst of him.

He acts squirrelly the whole time. He had the suicide episode in 2006 and then last year they were 8-4 when Romo returned from the IR list and he started his manipulative bullshit.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2009, 08:50:06 PM
There's only one team that's a good fit for TO:


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/Oakland_Raiders_helmet_rightface.png/135px-Oakland_Raiders_helmet_rightface.png)


He can be joined in the future by the new RB Michael Vick.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 09:00:46 PM
I will say it again, if the GM of the packers isn't leaving voice mail for TO's agent right now, I will eat every green and gold article of clothing in my closet.

(and that would involve pooping a LOT of green and gold  :-) )

 
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 09:02:23 PM
we have a hole in the entire defense, considering how old harrris and woodson are getting.  and hawk is almost a bust.  the packers scored enough points to go .500, but rogers has got to find a way to pull a game out in the last two minutes.  now, I know that coming after favre, that is a tough act to follow, but he had EIGHT chances to come from behind last season and either win, or tie.  he got zero.



Please don't get me started on the defense, or lack thereof.  Not sure if a total revamp is going to improve them this coming season, but it has to be better than there performance last year.  Maybe we should be looking at Williams instead of TO.

I have to admit that my confidence in Rodgers dropped a bit when he couldn't pull out a couple of the close games.  I still think the O tackles need to be upgraded and quickly or our QB is going to spend a lot off time scrambling out of what is supposed to be a pocket.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 09:05:38 PM
Please don't get me started on the defense, or lack thereof.  Not sure if a total revamp is going to improve them this coming season, but it has to be better than there performance last year.  Maybe we should be looking at Williams instead of TO.

I have to admit that my confidence in Rodgers dropped a bit when he couldn't pull out a couple of the close games.  I still think the O tackles need to be upgraded and quickly or our QB is going to spend a lot off time scrambling out of what is supposed to be a pocket.

well, everyone knows that I am a homer for favre, but he spent half the season in the 13-3 year in an offensive set that had no running backs behind him.

I have high hopes for rogers.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Odin's Hand on March 05, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
I will say it again, if the GM of the packers isn't leaving voice mail for TO's agent right now, I will eat every green and gold article of clothing in my closet.

(and that would involve pooping a LOT of green and gold  :-) )

I thought you traded all that in for Jets' gear?
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 09:08:03 PM
I thought you traded all that in for Jets' gear?

ixnay, orkday. :-)

while I did come to love the packers via brett favre, I can't leave them just because he did.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
and as the mod of this forum, you have a decision to make regarding the baseball season.  I left it for you in the "off season moves" thread. :-)

Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2009, 10:32:16 PM
I will say it again, if the GM of the packers isn't leaving voice mail for TO's agent right now, I will eat every green and gold article of clothing in my closet.

(and that would involve pooping a LOT of green and gold  :-) )

 

So, just out of curiosity, if you have holes in your defense, why in the hell would you want to give a contract to an offensive player who WILL demand top dollars? TO isn't God. Hell, he's not even the best WR in the NFL.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 05, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
So, just out of curiosity, if you have holes in your defense, why in the hell would you want to give a contract to an offensive player who WILL demand top dollars? TO isn't God. Hell, he's not even the best WR in the NFL.

I am assuming that he will be cheap.  sort of like manny;  no one wants him but us. :-)
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 06, 2009, 05:06:50 AM
So, just out of curiosity, if you have holes in your defense, why in the hell would you want to give a contract to an offensive player who WILL demand top dollars? TO isn't God. Hell, he's not even the best WR in the NFL.

TO is not getting top dollar this year.  His contract will be a one year, heavily incentive driven contract.   He is poison right now and has to prove himself.

Whoever gets him for a year will get 100% production from him, and a sincere effort on his part to keep his mouth closed.   This isn't just a contract year for him -- it's his career.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Miss Mia on March 06, 2009, 08:35:39 AM
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The teams that don't want Terrell Owens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-teams-that-don-t-want-Terrell-Owens?urn=nfl,146116)

Terrell Owens is still technically the property of the Dallas Cowboys, so it would be against league rules for other teams to go on record as saying they are or aren't interesting in acquiring his services (though that hasn't stopped the Redskins).

ProFootballTalk.com, though, is keeping a list of teams that have made it known to them through "league sources" that they have no interest in Owens. As of right now, that list includes:

    The Dallas Cowboys.
    The New York Giants.
    The Washington Redskins.
    The Baltimore Ravens.
    The San Francisco 49ers.
    The Minnesota Vikings.
    The Atlanta Falcons.
    The Cleveland Browns.
    The San Diego Chargers.
    The Philadelphia Eagles.
    The New York Jets.
    The Tennessee Titans.
    The St. Louis Rams.
    The New Orleans Saints.
    The Houston Texans.
    The Jacksonville Jaguars.

And the Eagles and Dolphins are listed as teams that are expected to join the list soon. Donovan McNabb and Bill Parcells are the president and vice president of the "Terrell Owens Deserves a Giant Wedgie Club."

But there are no real surprises there, except maybe a couple of mild ones. The Redskins are always worth mentioning whenever an expensive free agent is available, and the Vikings wanted T.J. Houshmandzadeh badly, but whiffed. I guess they're only in the market for sane receivers.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: VelvetElvis on March 06, 2009, 02:07:32 PM
we have a hole in the entire defense, considering how old harrris and woodson are getting.  and hawk is almost a bust.  the packers scored enough points to go .500, but rogers has got to find a way to pull a game out in the last two minutes.  now, I know that coming after favre, that is a tough act to follow, but he had EIGHT chances to come from behind last season and either win, or tie.  he got zero.



Not exactly, WE. 
Rodgers DID bring them back from behind several times, only to have the defense lay down in the last few minutes and allow the winning score.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: Miss Mia on March 07, 2009, 06:56:10 PM
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T.O. gets the money (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/to-gets-the-money.html)

Yes, Terrell Owens signed a one-year deal worth $6.5 million to play with the Buffalo Bills. There are reports he received a $4 million signing bonus.

Owens was scheduled to earn a total of $5.77 million from the Cowboys in base salary and roster bonus this season.

Over the next two seasons, 2010 and 2011, he was supposed to make a combined $14.5 million in base salaries.

His antics in Dallas cost him $20.27 million with the Cowboys.
Title: Re: T.O. & Roy Williams Cut from Cowboys
Post by: formerlurker on March 07, 2009, 08:50:53 PM


The freakin Bills??!!!!   Oh sh%t.