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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Servonaut on February 14, 2009, 04:45:54 PM
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:20 PM
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Tell us in your own words, why you have no stomach for what passes as conservative opinion
Advertisements [?]It's quite clear to me that they have no understanding of the truth, whatsoever.
On one hand they say that their philosophy is one which is best to build up the poor and the middle class, when all they are doing is screwing the poor and the middle class for the benefit of the ultra rich.
...And when we point this out, WE are the ones committing "Class Warfare"? Utter bullshit.
They are the ones who know best to keep the country safe by creating a permanent host of enemies that we have to bomb.
Even when I was working at the Pentagon, I never understood the logic of giving so much of our wealth to the defense industry to the detriment of our nation's other needs.
As a black man, I've noticed that most of the condescending and outright racist language comes out of the mouths of so-called conservatives.
I never understood why being insulted by the right is supposed to get me to support them. Just more cognitive dissonance on their part.
For a group of people who claim to celebrate America's heritage of religious freedom, they seem to be the first in line to oppose it.
I mean, how can burying their noses in the ass of a narrow segment of religious conservatives pass as defense of religious freedom in this country? Everyone in America is entitled to worship or not to worship, whatever deity they see fit, as long as that worship does not impose on the freedom of others to do the same.
If conservatives do their best to promote people who use their zealotry to subjugate others, then it's quite the opposite of religious freedom, I think.
Defense of modern conservatism seems to be nothing more than a defense of war mongering, greed, lies, homophobia, religious zealotry, selfishness and racism.
But most of all in my humble opinion, conservatives are the most contrarian people in existence. Every action that they take seems to be in complete opposition to their stated goals:
They oppose abortion by making it harder for women not to be pregnant.
They try to make us safer by flooding the streets with cheap weapons and creating whole classes of dangerous criminals with mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent crimes.
They tell us peace is best achieved by perpetual war.
That prosperity is created by making more and more people uneducated, sick and impoverished.
And they tell us that only they have a monopoly on the truth, which to any thinking person, is nothing but an outright lie.
It seems to me that anyone who claims to be a "conservative" is the last person that one should listen to...
I mean, what good has any of these assholes done to improve the life of anyone other than themselves?
It's about time that the "Conservatives" are no longer in charge. They have created most of the messes by which the electorate was convinced to depose them, and still they blabber on as if they haven't got the message.
To be a modern conservative is to be the most obtuse mother****er in existence. I don't have to be Andy Dufresne to know that shit.
deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:33 PM
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2. They don't have minds open to any other thoughts.
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:37 PM
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4. How do I begin?
And by the way, nice rant
To me, they are like the greedy kids in Willy Wonka. "But I want it now Daddy!
A brief study of conservatives reveals a history of humans who destroy every resource they touch, who believe in enlaving other humans (whether in prison or in low -wage jobs) for profit, and who will lie, insult, cheat and steal just to win.
I don't know how they are raised, but their parents: EPIC FAIL.
Wrong, Veruca Salt would be a DUmmie today.
and the Grotto Gato
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:41 PM
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5. the stupidity
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 04:42 PM by undergroundpanther
the brazen greed and hypocrisy,and of course their anti-humane ideas being couched as good.Conservatism is a disease. It takes one to a very vile place in mind to think like a conservative,It takes an evil mind to believe in conservatism.
The evil heartless inhumanity that conservatives are is to me, putrid..putrid as sociopaths. Because after all getting away with sociopath behavior is what they stand for.You'd see it if you look at the personalities that tout conservative shit and observe what they are like. It fits.
WVRICK13 (121 posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:41 PM
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6. Hypocrisy
pretty much sums it up. They are only conservative when it comes to helping others. They are pro-life and pro-war, for the poor while giving the rich tax cuts. I could go on for days and days but I am sure you get the point. A woman actually came into my agency to donate food to the poor and told me I will give this food if you can promise me the Mexicans won't get it. I asked her how this was an act of charity and told her if she gave the food then any hungry person had access to it regardless of their race or ethnic background. She took her food and left. On the way out the door she said she was going to tell her church about us helping Mexicans. I must be missing something. I was raised by a mother who took me to peace marches and civil rights marches almost every weekend during my formative years. My parents are white and in their late 80s and they had one of three yards in our entire town with an Obama sign before the election. My father even refused to go to his granddaughters Christmas dinner because her husband is a bigot. My father said, "I will not break bread with a bigot." So it isn't age, it isn't living in a city since my parents were both raised in very rural areas and didn't move to an urban area until they were in their 40s and then moved back to the small town to retire. My mother is very religious but when anyone says something about other people she replies only God can judge. I am so lucky to have these two as parents.
nancyr (991 posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:44 PM
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7. They tend to be mean, stupid and greedy.
New to the DUmp I see, you should look around more you might be surprised.
It's a new thread not that many replies yet. I'm sure there will be more this evening. :whatever:
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:yawn:
Stating opinions as evidence does not make a fact.
A real critical thinker as they all claim to be would understand that.
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:20 PM
Tell us in your own words, why you have no stomach for what passes as conservative opinion
It's quite clear to me that they have no understanding of the truth, whatsoever. This coming from a bunch of people who understand The Troof about everything
On one hand they say that their philosophy is one which is best to build up the poor and the middle class, when all they are doing is screwing the poor and the middle class for the benefit of the ultra rich.
...And when we point this out, WE are the ones committing "Class Warfare"? Utter bullshit.
Yet , you DUmmies are the ones constantly harping on about "the Poor" , "the middle class" and "the ultra-rich"
They are the ones who know best to keep the country safe by creating a permanent host of enemies that we have to bomb.
Enemies that simply didn't exist under any democrat administration. Right ?
Even when I was working at the Pentagon, I never understood the logic of giving so much of our wealth to the defense industry to the detriment of our nation's other needs.
As opposed to the amount redistributed or pissed away in feel good social programs that do nothing to reduce the problems they were implemented to solve ?
As a black man, I've noticed that most of the condescending and outright racist language comes out of the mouths of so-called conservatives.
A DU poster talking about condescension ?? Talk about the pot and the kettle
I never understood why being insulted by the right is supposed to get me to support them. Just more cognitive dissonance on their part.
So what you're saying is we have to bribe you in the same order that the left does
For a group of people who claim to celebrate America's heritage of religious freedom, they seem to be the first in line to oppose it.
Freedom OF religion, not Freedom FROM religion , douchebag.
I mean, how can burying their noses in the ass of a narrow segment of religious conservatives pass as defense of religious freedom in this country? Everyone in America is entitled to worship or not to worship, whatever deity they see fit, as long as that worship does not impose on the freedom of others to do the same.
If conservatives do their best to promote people who use their zealotry to subjugate others, then it's quite the opposite of religious freedom, I think.
See above
Defense of modern conservatism seems to be nothing more than a defense of war mongering, greed, lies, homophobia, religious zealotry, selfishness and racism.
blah blah blah
But most of all in my humble opinion, conservatives are the most contrarian people in existence. Every action that they take seems to be in complete opposition to their stated goals:
They oppose abortion by making it harder for women not to be pregnant.
They try to make us safer by flooding the streets with cheap weapons and creating whole classes of dangerous criminals with mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent crimes.
They tell us peace is best achieved by perpetual war.
That prosperity is created by making more and more people uneducated, sick and impoverished.
And they tell us that only they have a monopoly on the truth, which to any thinking person, is nothing but an outright lie.
Too much stupid to address
It seems to me that anyone who claims to be a "conservative" is the last person that one should listen to...
I mean, what good has any of these assholes done to improve the life of anyone other than themselves?
Since when has it been my duty to improve the life of anyone else ? I might ask the same of the democrats who constantly keep the poor where they are because they'll vote for the same democrats who promise more free stuff
It's about time that the "Conservatives" are no longer in charge. They have created most of the messes by which the electorate was convinced to depose them, and still they blabber on as if they haven't got the message.
To be a modern conservative is to be the most obtuse mother****er in existence. I don't have to be Andy Dufresne to know that shit.
If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd notice the mental gymnastics that your fellow lefties have to go through to justify their worldview being displayed on the DU very regularly
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Lord save me! I can't read that crap!
Like these pukes have any idea what REAL conservatism is any way!
Limited government is against their religion, such as it is. Morality being much the same.
Heaven forbid you would have to be responsible for your own **** ups!
Asking this question at the DUmp is like recommending adoption over abortion!
It's not in their logic!
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:33 PM
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2. They don't have minds open to any other thoughts.
Yep. They're not open-minded like the good folks at DU. That's why one of their most prolific posters is "name removed".
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:37 PM
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4. How do I begin?
And by the way, nice rant
To me, they are like the greedy kids in Willy Wonka. "But I want it now Daddy!
Unlike the folks at the DUmp who want "free" this and "free" that. Health care comes to mind.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-14-09 04:41 PM
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5. the stupidity the brazen greed and hypocrisy
This one speaks volumes. Let look at it in sections...
"the stupidity": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who thinks she's a male cat.
"the brazen greed": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who thinks she's a male cat AND wants everyone else to foot the bill for her.
"and hypocrisy": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who things she's male cat, wants everyone else to foot the bill for her, AND posts at the central headquarters for hypocrisy known as the DUmp
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It's simple:
Give a man a fish he eats for the day.
Teach a man to fish and eats for the rest of his life.
Oh and everytime, everywhere socialism has been tried millions of people die and tens of millions suffer greatly.
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Chuck, you got the hat trick here . . .
This one speaks volumes. Let look at it in sections...
"the stupidity": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who thinks she's a male cat.
"the brazen greed": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who thinks she's a male cat AND wants everyone else to foot the bill for her.
"and hypocrisy": Keep in mind that this is coming from a woman who things she's male cat, wants everyone else to foot the bill for her, AND posts at the central headquarters for hypocrisy known as the DUmp
H5!
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Man...there sure is alot of hate and threats from the loony left of late...I wish the hell they would just go ahead and decompensate so we can get this party started!!! I would love for one of these litttle pricks to confront me about my political beliefs....
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Man...there sure is alot of hate and threats from the loony left of late...I wish the hell they would just go ahead and decompensate so we can get this party started!!! I would love for one of these litttle pricks to confront me about my political beliefs....
Hate and anonymous internet threats is all they have.
The have no morals, ethics, courage or honor.
Not to mention their collective lack of brains.
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.....and the Grotto Gato.....
Hey, can I start using that, sir?
I've always called her the "subway cat," but never thought it 100% appropriate, because "subway cat" hints of sunglasses, a hat, snapping fingers--you know, someone hip, someone cool, someone trendy, someone with it.
The subway cat is definitely not hip, cool, trendy, with it.
"Subway cat" never really fully defined a humungous blob of flabby lard and watery shit, but despite my stretching the imagination from Nebraska to Bolivia, I could never think of a better name. But then you did, and I'd like to use that.
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If anyone was still wondering after having the WH and majorities in both the Senate and the House if the DUmmies could rid themselves of their hatred, this thread should answer it for you. It's just part of their makeup.
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Hey, can I start using that, sir?
I've always called her the "subway cat," but never thought it 100% appropriate, because "subway cat" hints of sunglasses, a hat, snapping fingers--you know, someone hip, someone cool, someone trendy, someone with it.
The subway cat is definitely not hip, cool, trendy, with it.
"Subway cat" never really fully defined a humungous blob of flabby lard and watery shit, but despite my stretching the imagination from Nebraska to Bolivia, I could never think of a better name. But then you did, and I'd like to use that.
Servonaut, I'd like to second the Coach's request.
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well at least MrDorkio left out the "freeper motherf***ers". That is some progress.
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I see a whole lot of projection in that thread. :rotf:
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Lord save me! I can't read that crap!
Like these pukes have any idea what REAL conservatism is any way!
no. these people have no clue about anything. Its amazing they knew someone who could plug in their computer for them... and someone who lets them borrow their computer
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I, quite honestly, coulden't read through all that scat. I do have a question for the DUmpmonkiees, where is the "proof" to all the accusations they make against "Rethugs"?
To me it sounds more like the mouthings of idiot students who know nothing more that what they "learned" in "high(er)" education socialisim.