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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Attero Dominatus on February 06, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:36 PM
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There should be a tax penalty for every family that has more than 2 kids
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Seriously
Yes, you might find this discriminatory, but every kid born taxes our resources that much more. If a parent wants to do the utterly selfish thing of having more kids than two - then they should pay.
Oh, and by the way, I am a Parent.
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It takes a ****ed up mind to see a child as something that 'taxes our resources.'
county worker (174 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:39 PM
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1. Hell NO!
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 01:40 PM by county worker
We should not get into the business of telling people what their family makeup should be. If you have lots of kids it's going to cost you a lot.
I don't want to be like China!
It seems to me that many DUers are about as totalitarian as the right!
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DU is a forum for totalitarians and those who have the masochistic desire to live as subjects.
John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:40 PM
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4. Better dead than red, eh?
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county worker (174 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:42 PM
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6. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 01:43 PM by county worker
Why do so many DUers think they have the right to define someone else????????????? That's the same kind of shit the freepers pull!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:47 PM
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24. You said you didn't want to be like China, so I made the joke of
"Better dead than red" because if we continue to reproduce world-wide as we are now it won't be too many years until the whole system experiences a massive die off, kind of like the fruit flies in science class. So we will be dead becasue of our success at reproducing.
Get it?
Instead of being red, like China. get it?
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county worker (174 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:50 PM
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I don't want to tell people to limit their kids to just two like China did.
Better dead then red was used in the 60's to define the anti communist crowd who wanted to increase the military budget and close the missile gap and such.
I didn't think it was funny then either.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:51 PM
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34. Honestly, China had a good idea
Just because China came up with it doesn't mean its automatically bad
We're taxing this planet too much
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Then go live there :bird:
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So how would this go with the earned income credit?
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I know, how 'bout we start simple? Like enforcing the existing penalties for Democrat tax cheats...
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why not finish it DUmmy - How about 2 kids for us, and involuntary sterilization for you, and other unfit persons since you are most likely a burden on society yourself ? Well ?
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This is the kind of DUmmie that refers to people with kids as "breeders".
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why not finish it DUmmy - How about 2 kids for us, and involuntary sterilization for you, and other unfit persons since you are most likely a burden on society yourself ? Well ?
Yeah, you're right .....a tax on all persons that have kids depending on the government to provide for them. I think a 100% tax rate would be a start. ....for the first one. ....... And double for each additional child.
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Long long time ago.....back in the 70's ....if not before, I just remember it was around then...there was a joke...
Know what the difference is between a Democrat and a Republican?
A Democrat has no money, a bunch of kids and is Catholic.
A Republican has money, 2 kids, and is Episcopalian.
Obviously it became politically incorrect.....
just for the record....I grew up Episcopalian...and am Catholic now.
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Long long time ago.....back in the 70's ....if not before, I just remember it was around then...there was a joke...
Know what the difference is between a Democrat and a Republican?
A Democrat has no money, a bunch of kids and is Catholic.
A Republican has money, 2 kids, and is Episcopalian.
Obviously it became politically incorrect.....
just for the record....I grew up Episcopalian...and am Catholic now.
You trying to tell us you're a Democrat, Deb?
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You trying to tell us you're a Democrat, Deb?
Has Hell frozen over? :confused:
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Has Hell frozen over? :confused:
Dunno. Has AlGore done any Glow Ball Warming speeches there?
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Taverner is typing overtime today...
Face it, religion is a HOBBY
In fact, I would say organized religion is the largest and most expensive Role Playing Game in the world.
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...The idea is that if we don't control our population, we will have a die off (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4996298)
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Folks, some of you here may not have heard of Thomas Malthus
...The idea is that if we don't control our population, we will have a die off
Another of the DUmmies heroes...Margaret Sanger thought the same way too.
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"The idea is that if we don't control our population, we will have a die off"
True, oh so true......the do nothing, have nothing, want everything crowd is slowly working the willing to work crowd to death.
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Another of the DUmmies heroes...Margaret Sanger thought the same way too.
Didn't Margaret Sanger want to limit her thinking to non-whites, too?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:51 PM
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34. Honestly, China had a good idea
Just because China came up with it doesn't mean its automatically bad
We're taxing this planet too much
A commie against taxing something.
Who knew?
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A commie against taxing something.
Who knew?
Remember, O Lagomorph, that Mother Gaia is the deity of choice for these DUmb****s.
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Didn't Margaret Sanger want to limit her thinking to non-whites, too?
Yup. She was a huge advocate of Eugenics.
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Actually, being a person who has no children, I resent paying for the "education" of other peoples kids.
They should at least revoke the deductions for children and apply that to the educational costs.
It is in society's (and thus our) interest to have an educated populace, which means educating kids in an INVESTMENT.
HOWEVER, that investment is NOT paying off, as we can see by the progressive dumbing down of the populace over the last 40 years or so. Now, even in newspapers, the "educated" people can't even properly distinguish between "less" and "fewer" -- writers and editors both.
If I am getting nothing on my investment, I want to reinvest it where it can do some good. How about vouchers?
In my case, I am walking away from my "investment" -- I'll be damned if I will stay in a place where we put the most into education and have the lower education level by any standard.
And the Federal Government should have ZERO involvement in education, except training of our Armed Forces.
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Actually, being a person who has no children, I resent paying for the "education" of other peoples kids.
They should at least revoke the deductions for children and apply that to the educational costs.
Society as a whole has an interest in both the prodution of children, and the education of children. Very few can truly say they will have no benefits from the investment in the next generations, even if they have no children themselves. Unless we completely revamp our entire society (and in a libertarian direction instead of the socialist direction we are now moving), the quality of the next generations will have a lot to do with how we live our last years.
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Actually, being a person who has no children, I resent paying for the "education" of other peoples kids.
They should at least revoke the deductions for children and apply that to the educational costs.
I've never had my house burn down but I pay to support the fire department.
Still, if the DUmmies were posting about some GOP effort to have parental consent before performing abortions on minors the first cry would be about the encroachment of reproductive freedoms.
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You would think that DU'ers would want people to have as many kids as they could, they will need future tax payers to continue pay for their socialist ways. Having just two kids paying taxes wont even be enough to cover their own parents medicare.
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You would think that DU'ers would want people to have as many kids as they could, they will need future tax payers to continue pay for their socialist ways. Having just two kids paying taxes wont even be enough to cover their own parents medicare.
One would think, but their simple minds have been fully indoctrinated to see their fellow human beings (including their own children) as a 'burden' on 'resources' that should be disposed of if it serves 'the common good.' Liberalism/Communism is truly a mental disorder.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (370 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 05:42 PM
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238. Been around the world and saw that all the stupid people are breeding...
the cretins cloning and feeding.......
don't know why breeders are so defensive when it's ever suggested that the planet needs us to practice self control.
Animal studies show clearly the results of overpopulation. But when it comes to our little bundles of idealized, romanticized joy, there is no end to denial and rationalizing.
I like a diversity of flora and fauna more than I like more and more and more "little miracles", or is that little shoppers?
and for those who say, "but that child may be the next Einstein"? Or the next Jeffrey Dahmer. The bell curve works both ways.
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It takes a truly ****ed up mind to see human beings as 'breeders' who are inferior to plants :bird:
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You would think that DU'ers would want people to have as many kids as they could, they will need future tax payers to continue pay for their socialist ways. Having just two kids paying taxes wont even be enough to cover their own parents medicare.
Obviously, they view all people through their own experiences...and since they've admitted a large percentage of illegal drug use, unemployment or underemployment, and homelessness...not to mention being completely unable to function in reality...they fail to recognise the fact that 90% of those "burdensome children" grow up, find real work, and end up being a plus to society and the country. Of course, as most of the DUmmies are determined to be overall minuses, it's easy to see why they miss the big picture.
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It takes a truly ****ed up mind to see human beings as 'breeders' who are inferior to plants :bird:
Then, this splattered white primitive should do the sensible thing and kill itself. That way, it never "breeds."
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I have 6 brothers and sisters, which was the norm in my neighborhood, and for the time/generation in general.
Couples just don't have that many children anymore.
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True. But for that, you get your house maybe saved.
Public support for raising and educating children ensures not only that there will be firemen, but also that they can actually read the street signs to find your place. The expenditure has both direct and indirect benefits to society.
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Public support for raising and educating children ensures not only that there will be firemen, but also that they can actually read the street signs to find your place. The expenditure has both direct and indirect benefits to society.
Absolutely.
Now I assert, and I'm sure all sides of our dialogue would agree, that keeping education local or state-based as opposed to that federal monstrosity we have now would be the lesser evil and greater good.
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Then, this splattered white primitive should do the sensible thing and kill itself. That way, it never "breeds."
Yes, they should be willing practice everything they preach instead of expecting others to make the sacrifice for them. They want communism after all, so they should be willing to contribute to 'the greater good.' Never going to happen though.
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Then it's not working.
I want my $$ back.
Sorry, the federal Gummint isn't into giving back money it stole fair and square. "Once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep", or something like that.
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Then it's not working.
I want my $$ back.
If we could trade taxing all property for taking back the schools, I'd go for it.
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Then it's not working.
I want my $$ back.
How do you know? Did your house burn down?
:lmao:
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So how would this go with the earned income credit?
They didn't think about that, because I don't believe that crazy checks and welfare count as earned income. Could be wrong though.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-06-09 01:51 PM
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34. Honestly, China had a good idea
Just because China came up with it doesn't mean its automatically bad
We're taxing this planet too much
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Never thought I'd see a comment like that from a DUmmie. Of course, the double meaning of "tax" is beyond his little pea-brain capacity.
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They never seem to realize that their precious Social Security Ponzi scheme (and don't you DARE try to privatize it!!) needs lots and lots of babies to make it work.
Apart from that, we need lots and lots of babies to grow up and pay for the huge porkin stinkfest they want so badly.