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The Bar => Sports => Topic started by: Odin's Hand on January 29, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
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Well?
I'll take the Steelers.
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Ditto.
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Well?
I'll take the Steelers.
I hear tell the point spread is Steelers +5? I'll forgo the points.
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I hear tell the point spread is Steelers +5? I'll forgo the points.
Vegas has it marked at +7 Steelers. It's moved up a half a point. Some books may be carrying +5 Steelers (In Arizona, surrounding areas, etc.)
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Who I think will win and who I'll be rooting for are two different teams. :-)
I'm pulling for Arizona for the same reason I pulled for the Giants last year. I've never rooted for the Giants before or since, but strange things can happen at the Superbowl.
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I'll go for the underdogs. and the Cardinals are definitely them
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Vegas has it marked at +7 Steelers. It's moved up a half a point. Some books may be carrying +5 Steelers (In Arizona, surrounding areas, etc.)
I WIN I WIN I WIN!! I posted after the playoffs that it would be Steelers +7!
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Who I think will win and who I'll be rooting for are two different teams. :-)
I'm pulling for Arizona for the same reason I pulled for the Giants last year. I've never rooted for the Giants before or since, but strange things can happen at the Superbowl.
Uh, EXCUSE ME?????!!!!!!
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Kurt Warner.
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Steelers, unless they start to blow it, then I will root for AZ. :-)
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I think it'll be the Steelers (even though I said the Jooooooooos!). I've been a Steelers' fan since the mid 70s.
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Given my dad lives in Scottsdale, when a gun is held to my head and a decision forced from me, I'll reluctantly pick the Cards.
However, I'm realistic enough to know the Steelers will probably win, and more than cover the spread.
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cardinals...
I'll take kurt warner, edgerrin james/hightower & the receiving core of the cards, as well as their totally balanced team over the steelers 'all defense' squad...
this steelers team has more holes in it than swiss cheez (aside from their D) & is only in this SB for the same reason the cards are ... (ie: cupcake schedule & a down year in the NFL)
willie parker/mobelly moore & the steelers Oline vs. edgerrin james/hightower & the Cards oline ....yeah right ...
both QB's have been prone to totally looking horrific at times, but kurt warner has NEVER choked in the SB like Big Ben has ...
the steelers terrible punter & ST's will give the cards great field position through the entire game & since the steelrs offense will only be good for a couple big plays, but no consistent ball control, the Cards great offense will have way too many cracks at points ...
warner throws 3 TD passes, cards ground game puts up 100 & the cards defense even has a great showing & forces a few turnovers & rapes big ben most of the game..
unless of course, the ZEBRAS call a holding penalty on the cards everytime they get into the redzone (like they did to seattle in the last steelers SB)
even if w/ the aid of phantom calls, I still don't think it will be enough to stop the cards offense from scoring 24 + points...
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I voted for a Steelers win but will be cheering my head off for Arizona. Mostly because I hate the Burg but partly because, well c'mon, it's freakin' Arizona!?!!
Top three ressons why the Cards have a chance:
- Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin duo
- Kurt Warner
- A. Wilson/D. Rodgers-Cromartie duo
I toyed with the idea of going Fitzgerald, Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald but the Cards will need eveyone's best game on Sunday. They are against the best defense, and likely the crowd (and refs, lol) will be against them too. Win the turnover battle, win TOP and get that D tired and just maybe they win the game. Go Cards!!
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I'll go for the underdogs. and the Cardinals are definitely them
I'll pick the definite underdog. GO JOOOOOOSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Seriously.. Steelers by 10.
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I voted for a Steelers win but will be cheering my head off for Arizona. Mostly because I hate the Burg but partly because, well c'mon, it's freakin' Arizona!?!!
Top three ressons why the Cards have a chance:
- Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin duo
- Kurt Warner
- A. Wilson/D. Rodgers-Cromartie duo
I toyed with the idea of going Fitzgerald, Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald but the Cards will need eveyone's best game on Sunday. They are against the best defense, and likely the crowd (and refs, lol) will be against them too. Win the turnover battle, win TOP and get that D tired and just maybe they win the game. Go Cards!!
yeah steel,
adrian wilson has twice as many sacks as does polamalu these past few seasons & wilson did so in alot fewer games ...
he's the most underrated defensive player in the NFL & I think he may show the world the Adrian Wilson show & bigtime...
I'm already thinking he may be the MVP of this game, even though they just love to give that to QB's &/or already have fiztgeralds name engraved in a trophy & ready to go...
cromartie will blanket S Holmes & Hines Ward is gonna be a non factor this game cause of his injury...
what will the steelers do now that their best QB of the last SB is gone (Randel El)??
its gonna be a good one or a blowout, & I think if the cards win, it will be a blowout...
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yeah steel,
adrian wilson has twice as many sacks as does polamalu these past few seasons & wilson did so in alot fewer games ...
he's the most underrated defensive player in the NFL & I think he may show the world the Adrian Wilson show & bigtime...
I'm already thinking he may be the MVP of this game, even though they just love to give that to QB's &/or already have fiztgeralds name engraved in a trophy & ready to go...
cromartie will blanket S Holmes & Hines Ward is gonna be a non factor this game cause of his injury...
what will the steelers do now that their best QB of the last SB is gone (Randel El)??
its gonna be a good one or a blowout, & I think if the cards win, it will be a blowout...
I worry about weather the Cards can run on the Steelers. (at all)
I agree Big Ben was the 3rd best QB to throw the ball in XL lol. Randel El was a Big loss as Big Ben will Big suck.
I'd love a blowout but will laugh my ass off reguardless if Pitt falls to the "lowly" Cardinals by any score.
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I worry about weather the Cards can run on the Steelers. (at all)
I agree Big Ben was the 3rd best QB to throw the ball in XL lol. Randel El was a Big loss as Big Ben will Big suck.
I'd love a blowout but will laugh my ass off reguardless if Pitt falls to the "lowly" Cardinals by any score.
did you happen to notice that pittsburgh became the SB around week 2 this year ??
after everyone realized Brady was DONE & P manning was washed up, they instantly claimed the steelers the team to beat ....
so I reckon, any team getting into the bigshow by default, is bound to fall...
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did you happen to notice that pittsburgh became the SB around week 2 this year ??
after everyone realized Brady was DONE & P manning was washed up, they instantly claimed the steelers the team to beat ....
so I reckon, any team getting into the bigshow by default, is bound to fall...
heh! I sure hope they do. (did I mention I hate the farking Steelers, lol)
I still worry about the Cards run game though. I bet E. James gets more yards catching than running if he can fee himself up for a few dump offs. (that's IF he is a factor at all)
I do trust Warner to convert on third down at least half the time, that will be big if it happens.
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heh! I sure hope they do. (did I mention I hate the farking Steelers, lol)
I still worry about the Cards run game though. I bet E. James gets more yards catching than running if he can fee himself up for a few dump offs. (that's IF he is a factor at all)
I do trust Warner to convert on third down at least half the time, that will be big if it happens.
why I think the cards running game will be more successful than the steelers:
#1: cards will be playing w/ the lead
#2: cards will have element of surprise
#3: cards RB's & Oline are better than the steelers & the cards RB's are built to makes holes & get extra yards...
edgerrin james is as good as anyone who's played that position at getting 2 yards & thats what he's gonna be facing alot of against the steelers great run stoppers...
neither parker or moore is good at getting tough yards...
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cardinals...
I'll take kurt warner, edgerrin james/hightower & the receiving core of the cards, as well as their totally balanced team over the steelers 'all defense' squad...
this steelers team has more holes in it than swiss cheez (aside from their D) & is only in this SB for the same reason the cards are ... (ie: cupcake schedule & a down year in the NFL)
willie parker/mobelly moore & the steelers Oline vs. edgerrin james/hightower & the Cards oline ....yeah right ...
both QB's have been prone to totally looking horrific at times, but kurt warner has NEVER choked in the SB like Big Ben has ...
the steelers terrible punter & ST's will give the cards great field position through the entire game & since the steelrs offense will only be good for a couple big plays, but no consistent ball control, the Cards great offense will have way too many cracks at points ...
warner throws 3 TD passes, cards ground game puts up 100 & the cards defense even has a great showing & forces a few turnovers & rapes big ben most of the game..
unless of course, the ZEBRAS call a holding penalty on the cards everytime they get into the redzone (like they did to seattle in the last steelers SB)
even if w/ the aid of phantom calls, I still don't think it will be enough to stop the cards offense from scoring 24 + points...
Its good to see your head is still squarely up your ass :loser:
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Its good to see your head is still squarely up your ass :loser:
indeed.
but the key to the cards will be larry fitzgerald. if he can get open, or even partially open, that guy can change a game.
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Its good to see your head is still squarely up your ass :loser:
and that's because that is where all the action is with JCC. :rotf:
I just kill myself sometimes.
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and that's because that is where all the action is with JCC. :rotf:
I just kill myself sometimes.
Just keep in mind if the Cards do lose, he'll never admit they didn't play good enough to win, it'll always be someone elses fault but there's. Sounds like the kind of excuses we document on a certain board we watch and laugh at.
I think the Steelers will win it, but it wouldn't surprise me either way. Whoever wins, I won't be on here crying foul because the other one didn't.
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Just keep in mind if the Cards do lose, he'll never admit they didn't play good enough to win, it'll always be someone elses fault but there's. Sounds like the kind of excuses we document on a certain board we watch and laugh at.
I think the Steelers will win it, but it wouldn't surprise me either way. Whoever wins, I won't be on here crying foul because the other one didn't.
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steelers, plus 10.
I have $100 that says that i am right
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steelers, plus 10.
I have $100 that says that i am right
Jerk.
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Jerk.
Az had a good run, but they will lose
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Just keep in mind if the Cards do lose, he'll never admit they didn't play good enough to win, it'll always be someone elses fault but there's. Sounds like the kind of excuses we document on a certain board we watch and laugh at.
I think the Steelers will win it, but it wouldn't surprise me either way. Whoever wins, I won't be on here crying foul because the other one didn't.
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way to ride the fence loser...
at least I'm vexing my convictions & actually CHOOSING a clear winner...
you've got both teams picked right now...so what you've got to say is moot...
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Its good to see your head is still squarely up your ass :loser:
oh come now lars...
no sour grapes just because the cards annihilated the eagles... :cheersmate:
and the eagles are a more solid team than are the steelers..
the steelers defense will get owned by this cards team ...
I emphasize team, because the cards have all bases covered, unlike the steelers whose dufus QB & punter will be giving the ball to the cards at midfield most of the game...
just watch n see...
but hey, at least you'll have soundbites of D Mcnabb bragging about how many NFC Championships he's been in....memories for the ages !! :tongue:
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indeed.
but the key to the cards will be larry fitzgerald. if he can get open, or even partially open, that guy can change a game.
the cards have so many 'keys', the steelers cannot keep up...
james/hightower, boldin, urbin, breaston & wilson are more explosive than ANYTHING the steelers have to offer at those positions... yeah, I'll say right now adrian wilson is better than polamalu
other than santonio holmes, who is the key to the steelers offense these days & cromartie is FASTER than holmes & will blanket him all day...
that leaves the terrible steelers running game to try & keep the game OUT of Big Bens hands, cause if comes down to a shootout between warner & big ben, the steelers are toast for sure..
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way to ride the fence loser...
at least I'm vexing my convictions & actually CHOOSING a clear winner...
you've got both teams picked right now...so what you've got to say is moot...
Yeah, I said "I think the Steelers will win it" and that's riding the fence. :whatever:
Oh, and your choice lost....... again. So start making the the false reasons why they lost. I've already noticed you're complaining about the number of penalities the Cards had, so that's as good a place for you to build your whinning excuses as any.
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Yeah, I said "I think the Steelers will win it" and that's riding the fence. :whatever:
Oh, and your choice lost....... again. So start making the the false reasons why they lost. I've already noticed you're complaining about the number of penalities the Cards had, so that's as good a place for you to build your whinning excuses as any.
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I covered the spread...
just under estimated the stupidity of Whisenhunt ....
whisenhunt gives the ball to his offense after the coin flip & the steelers get romped...
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I covered the spread...
You picked them straight up and ...
just under estimated the stupidity of Whisenhunt ....
whisenhunt gives the ball to his offense after the coin flip & the steelers get romped...
... here come the excuses.
1) Refs called too many penalities on the Cards
2) Cards took the wrong option after the coin toss.
What's number 3 gonna be?
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You picked them straight up and ...
... here come the excuses.
1) Refs called too many penalities on the Cards
2) Cards took the wrong option after the coin toss.
What's number 3 gonna be?
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The Cards should have kicked a fg at the half, tied the game and then would have got the ball back after the half. Extremely bad call playing that cost them the game.
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They also should have went to a no huddle offense right after the half, instead of late in the game.
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a meteor hitting the steelers' locker room (and only the steelers' locker room) at halftime notwithstanding, there was no way the cards were going to win that game.
in fact, they had no business even being in that game. I think the NFL needs BCS rankings; the whole playoff system that the nfl uses is obsolete and hopelessly inaccurate. :rofl: :-) :-) :-) :uhsure: :fuelfire: :fuelfire: :fuelfire: :tongue:
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Oh, I dunno.
I'm very happy the Pittsburgh Steelers won the game.
Probably everybody else was sweating during the last series of plays, that 78 (?) yard drive by the Pittsburgh Steelers, but that's when I figured the game was over, Pittsburgh won, and so I went on to something else on the internet.
You see, that's the difference between college football and professional football; if it had been two college teams, that last minute, that last drive, could've turned into anything, making the end of the game fraught with excitement.
But as professional football is so predictable, once Pittsburgh had the ball, and there was still time, one KNEW they were going to get it into the end zone.
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Oh, I dunno.
I'm very happy the Pittsburgh Steelers won the game.
Probably everybody else was sweating during the last series of plays, that 78 (?) yard drive by the Pittsburgh Steelers, but that's when I figured the game was over, Pittsburgh won, and so I went on to something else on the internet.
You see, that's the difference between college football and professional football; if it had been two college teams, that last minute, that last drive, could've turned into anything, making the end of the game fraught with excitement.
But as professional football is so predictable, once Pittsburgh had the ball, and there was still time, one KNEW they were going to get it into the end zone.
Big Ben ain't exactly Tom Brady or Peyton Manning when the game is on the line, it is under a minute on the clock (Ben had more) and they absolutely have to get a TD. Then you know that they are going to score (save for of course last SB when Brady forgot how to throw short passes to march up the field). You never give the ball back to Brady or Manning with time on the clock. You are just asking to be btchslapped.
When Warner threw that pick it was a monumental mistake, but hardly the prediction for a blow out -- which is what this game was supposed to be.
The Steelers played horribly, and the Cardinals never should have been there to begin with. It was a lackluster SB to cap off a lackluster year. We won't even talk about the officiating.
On to baseball.
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Oh, I dunno.
I'm very happy the Pittsburgh Steelers won the game.
Probably everybody else was sweating during the last series of plays, that 78 (?) yard drive by the Pittsburgh Steelers, but that's when I figured the game was over, Pittsburgh won, and so I went on to something else on the internet.
You see, that's the difference between college football and professional football; if it had been two college teams, that last minute, that last drive, could've turned into anything, making the end of the game fraught with excitement.
But as professional football is so predictable, once Pittsburgh had the ball, and there was still time, one KNEW they were going to get it into the end zone.
i was just using the SB to make a provocative wisecrack point about the BCS :-) . . . although I do believe that the cards were the biggest playoff fluke in the past 20 years. the 79 rams come to mind. I was a big rams fan when they played in LA.
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After the 1st quarter it became apparent that the Cards did not want to attempt longer passes, I knew that was a mistake.
I think thats why they lost, they waited until the last quarter to go deep