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Title: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 11:26:39 AM
Windy, cold and sunny.

My daughter has my flu and is grumping. Mancub seems to be resisting it at this point though.  My better half went back to work yesterday and is dealing with 47 different crisis' that have cropped up over her vacation.

We are into the 2nd season of Dexter now and I am totally hooked on this show!  I have to admire writers who can get you rooting for a brutal serial killer.  :p

Looking forward to New Years Day and tearing down the tree.  The lower branches have drooped so much that the ornaments are sliding off in the middle of the night. :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 11:47:13 AM
Well, I've spent all morning fixing up the cashiers screw ups.  If they checked this stuff like they're supposed to before sending it over to me, then I wouldn't have to waste time doing this crap.  But then that would require them to actually do their job.  This is after spending yesterday hunting down $115 that they were short.   :banghead:


Am I the only one that didn't care for The Catcher in the Rye?  Maybe it's because was around 22 when I finally read it and not full of teenage angst.  I just wanted to tell Holden to grow the f*** up. 
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 11:51:08 AM
Well, I've spent all morning fixing up the cashiers screw ups.  If they checked this stuff like they're supposed to before sending it over to me, then I wouldn't have to waste time doing this crap.  But then that would require them to actually do their job.  This is after spending yesterday hunting down $115 that they were short.   :banghead:


Am I the only one that didn't care for The Catcher in the Rye?  Maybe it's because was around 22 when I finally read it and not full of teenage angst.  I just wanted to tell Holden to grow the f*** up. 

Probably the single most over rated book in history with the collected works of Tolstoy running a close second.  And don't get me started on the bulk of Dickenson.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 11:55:19 AM
Probably the single most over rated book in history with the collected works of Tolstoy running a close second.  And don't get me started on the bulk of Dickenson.


Whatever you do, don't say you don't care for Dickens.  The WE will be after you.  I made that mistake once.   :uhsure:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 11:58:29 AM

Whatever you do, don't say you don't care for Dickens.  The WE will be after you.  I made that mistake once.   :uhsure:

Actually I meant Dickinson, Emily but misspelled her last name.

Although with the exception of "A Christmas Carol" Dickens pretty much blows. :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 12:00:19 PM
Actually I meant Dickinson, Emily but misspelled her last name.

Although with the exception of "A Christmas Carol" Dickens pretty much blows. :-)

I know you meant Dickinson.  :)  It just reminded me of the time I told WE that I'd rather stab myself in the eyes with a spoon than read Dickens.    :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: debk on December 30, 2008, 12:05:08 PM
I liked it...but I think I was abourt 13 or 14 when I read it....


Showing houses this afternoon.....big ones!!! Had someone referred to me a couple of months ago and talked to him then and they weren't in any hurry. Got an email on Sunday night and they are now ready to go shopping.... :-)....they narrowed 220 houses that I emailed them down to 48 and now down to 9.

Let me tell you about a stupid seller ..... tried to schedule an appointment for this afternoon. Told the agency secretary that they didn't have to leave the house (she told me they worked from home) nor did they have to pick it all up. She appreciated my cooperation. She called the seller.....and they said NO!!! no showing until late next week!!!! House has been on the market for 253 days....reduced $50,000 from $499900 to $459900....and they don't want it shown to an approved buyer!!!!!!  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

In this market, that is just flat out stupid!!!! There are 220 houses in this specific small area between $300-500K currently on the market and they refused a showing! There are over 500 mls area currently on the market that theoretically they are competing with....let alone the rest of the county! The other 8 houses I scheduled are all vacant. These are the type of people who will bitch to their agent that the agent isn't doing enough to sell their house...... :thatsright: ...you have to let people into the house to sell it!!!
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 12:08:10 PM
I liked it...but I think I was abourt 13 or 14 when I read it....


Showing houses this afternoon.....big ones!!! Had someone referred to me a couple of months ago and talked to him then and they weren't in any hurry. Got an email on Sunday night and they are now ready to go shopping.... :-)....they narrowed 220 houses that I emailed them down to 48 and now down to 9.

Let me tell you about a stupid seller ..... tried to schedule an appointment for this afternoon. Told the agency secretary that they didn't have to leave the house (she told me they worked from home) nor did they have to pick it all up. She appreciated my cooperation. She called the seller.....and they said NO!!! no showing until late next week!!!! House has been on the market for 253 days....reduced $50,000 from $499900 to $459900....and they don't want it shown to an approved buyer!!!!!!  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

In this market, that is just flat out stupid!!!! There are 220 houses in this specific small area between $300-500K currently on the market and they refused a showing! There are over 500 mls area currently on the market that theoretically they are competing with....let alone the rest of the county! The other 8 houses I scheduled are all vacant. These are the type of people who will bitch to their agent that the agent isn't doing enough to sell their house...... :thatsright: ...you have to let people into the house to sell it!!!


That's very stupid.  When my dad was looking at condos, he had settled on this one (which is a co-workers) and wanted to see it one last time before making an offer.  The dumbass co-worker said no, but my dad's realtor talked to the other realtor and they still went in.  Everyone at work told the co-worker he was a dumbass for saying no, that you just don't do that when you're trying to sell in this market.

Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: guest on December 30, 2008, 01:33:34 PM
I enjoyed CITR when I was in high-school, but after re-reading it later on, I realized just how over-rated it was. 

One of my favorite novels I read in my HS/ early college years (and still today) was "Far From the Madding Crowd" by Thomas Hardy.  My professor really made it an interesting read, with all of the class discussions. 

Classics are still better than most of what has been written today.  Call me a book snob, but modern books,  like the Shopaholic series (yes, I read them  :innocent: ) will never compare to anything like Pride and Prejudice (another favorite of mine) or Far From The Madding Crowd.

Of today's books, Harry Potter still ranks #1 for me.  :-)

Okay, I'll stop talking about books now.

My 6 is nice and clean now.  I just spent 54 bucks getting an oil change and top-of-the-line car wash.   Funny how a clean car actually attracts people (I rarely get car washes  :thatsright: ).  I had a couple other customers ask me about the reliability and gas mileage of the Mazda 6.  Well, when the car can get darn close to 600 miles on one tank (all interstate driving), I'd say that's pretty good.   :cheersmate:   And I might have just given Jim Ellis Mazda one or two new sales.   :p
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: NHSparky on December 30, 2008, 02:05:36 PM
Did two jobs which were supposed to take 24 man-hours in just under 7 1/2.  I am SO screwed.  I feel like Scotty--"How else am I suppos' ta keep me reputation as a miracle workah?"

Cold(er) and windy, with snow coming tonight.  We got a dusting this morning of about an inch but that's pretty much either off the roads or blown away.  3-5 inches tomorrow, more over the weekend. 

They asked me if I wanted to come in this weekend, turned it down despite taking last Friday off without pay.  Face it, from mid-January through mid-March, I'm going to have NO time off.  Good money, crappy quality of life.

And I never really got into any of the above.  I guess my HS English teachers were far more sadistic than I realized, giving us Castaneda, Ayn Rand (yes, she really did), Turgenev, and Camus.  Oh, goody.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 03:33:51 PM
And I never really got into any of the above.  I guess my HS English teachers were far more sadistic than I realized, giving us Castaneda, Ayn Rand (yes, she really did), Turgenev, and Camus.  Oh, goody.

No Dickens?  Seriously A Tale of Two Cities classifies as torture. 

My favorite book that we read in high school was Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 30, 2008, 03:45:26 PM
No Dickens?  Seriously A Tale of Two Cities classifies as torture. 

I could not agree more, that was one of the most painful reads I have ever had, even Dostoyevskiy's Crime and Punishment was more readable.

I somehow avoided ever having to read Catcher in the Rye and have no real desire to question that blessing.  The one thing I read which most impressed me as great writing in high school, though heartily disliked by most of my peers, was Heart of Darkness.  That Conrad guy was one writin' sumbitch.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 03:54:19 PM
I could not agree more, that was one of the most painful reads I have ever had, even Dostoyevskiy's Crime and Punishment was more readable.

I somehow avoided ever having to read Catcher in the Rye and have no real desire to question that blessing.  The one thing I read which most impressed me as great writing in high school, though heartily disliked by most of my peers, was Heart of Darkness.  That Conrad guy was one writin' sumbitch.

For A Tale of Two Cities, I think I got 20 pages in and said "F this" and got the Cliffs Notes for it.  Hey, I still passed my exam over it.  LOL!

I have to say Watership Down was also horrible.  Stupid rabbits, just dig a freaking hole and live there!
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: franksolich on December 30, 2008, 03:57:59 PM
How, for the love of God, is it possible for anybody but an anomaly to dislike Charles Dickens?

I suspect nobody's heard of her, but my favorite southern writer is Eudora Welty.

William Faulkner was nothing, compared with Eudora Welty.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
About the only "Classic" literature that I really enjoy is Kipling.

Given a choice between having my leg sawed off with dental floss or trying to read Dostoyevskiy again...

it would be a close call.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:02:12 PM
How, for the love of God, is it possible for anybody but an anomaly to dislike Charles Dickens?

I suspect nobody's heard of her, but my favorite southern writer is Eudora Welty.

William Faulkner was nothing, compared with Eudora Welty.


I read The Optimist's Daughter like 6 years ago Frank.  :wink:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: franksolich on December 30, 2008, 04:04:42 PM
Given a choice between having my leg sawed off with dental floss or trying to read Dostoyevskiy again...

it would be a close call.

I feel the same way about any French writer of the 18th and 19th centuries.

Just really bad stuff.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
For A Tale of Two Cities, I think I got 20 pages in and said "F this" and got the Cliffs Notes for it.  Hey, I still passed my exam over it.  LOL!

I have to say Watership Down was also horrible.  Stupid rabbits, just dig a freaking hole and live there!

Holy crap I was SO just thinking about that monstrosity whilst scrolling through this thread.  I'm sorry but Dickens blows.  Ew ew ew.   Bitch slap me all you want for sayin' it, that would be much more pleasurable than reading any of his boring drivel.  Same goes for Steinbeck.  :P   :thatsright:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:19:57 PM
Holy crap I was SO just thinking about that monstrosity whilst scrolling through this thread.  I'm sorry but Dickens blows.  Ew ew ew.   Bitch slap me all you want for sayin' it, that would be much more pleasurable than reading any of his boring drivel.  Same goes for Steinbeck.  :P   :thatsright:

H5 for agreeing with me....but just wait until WE shows up.   :uhsure:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:22:57 PM
H5 for agreeing with me....but just wait until WE shows up.   :uhsure:

It had to be said. lol  ;)  Are you making an appearance at our fiesta tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
It had to be said. lol  ;)  Are you making an appearance at our fiesta tomorrow night?


I was planning on it.  I'm headed to a liquor store tonight for my ticket in.   :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:26:21 PM

I was planning on it.  I'm headed to a liquor store tonight for my ticket in.   :-)

Woohoo!  I'm getting some Jaeger and champagne.  Bring a bottle of bubbly stuff if you happen to remember.  I think we went through a dozen last year.  haha  :) 
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:27:53 PM
Woohoo!  I'm getting some Jaeger and champagne.  Bring a bottle of bubbly stuff if you happen to remember.  I think we went through a dozen last year.  haha  :) 

I'm bringing vodka.  I'll hit up the grocery store tomorrow for a couple of bottles of tonic and limes.   :hyper:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
I'm bringing vodka.  I'll hit up the grocery store tomorrow for a couple of bottles of tonic and limes.   :hyper:

Excellent choice   :-)  Very excite.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
Excellent choice   :-)  Very excite.


Well, I won't start in on the festivities as early as you, but I should leave here by 5pm and I'll need to swing by the house and pick up the vodka and change clothes (I gotta pretty myself up for you).  :wink:
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 04:36:54 PM
Holy crap I was SO just thinking about that monstrosity whilst scrolling through this thread.  I'm sorry but Dickens blows.  Ew ew ew.   Bitch slap me all you want for sayin' it, that would be much more pleasurable than reading any of his boring drivel. Same goes for Steinbeck.  :P   :thatsright:

My daughter just finished Grapes Of Wrath and Of Mice And Men and wanted to know why such a depressing ass mope was so famous.
She more or less called him the founder of the Emo movement. :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:38:08 PM
My daughter just finished Grapes Of Wrath and Of Mice And Men and wanted to know why such a depressing ass mope was so famous.
She more or less called him the founder of the Emo movement. :-)

Your daughter is brilliant ;)  lol 
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 04:38:49 PM
My daughter just finished Grapes Of Wrath and Of Mice And Men and wanted to know why such a depressing ass mope was so famous.
She more or less called him the founder of the Emo movement. :-)

I liked Of Mice and Men and The Pearl, but was neutral on Grapes of Wrath.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Sweet Dee on December 30, 2008, 04:39:44 PM

Well, I won't start in on the festivities as early as you, but I should leave here by 5pm and I'll need to swing by the house and pick up the vodka and change clothes (I gotta pretty myself up for you).  :wink:

Dude totally no rush!  Trey and I are pre-partying around 3ish.  Then he's going to work for a couple hours and I'm picking him up again for party partying.  lol  :)   So whenever you are ready, bring it.  
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Miss Mia on December 30, 2008, 05:05:20 PM
Dude totally no rush!  Trey and I are pre-partying around 3ish.  Then he's going to work for a couple hours and I'm picking him up again for party partying.  lol  :)   So whenever you are ready, bring it.  

You drunk already = good time.   :-)
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 30, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
Holy crap I was SO just thinking about that monstrosity whilst scrolling through this thread.  I'm sorry but Dickens blows.  Ew ew ew.   Bitch slap me all you want for sayin' it, that would be much more pleasurable than reading any of his boring drivel.  Same goes for Steinbeck.  :P   :thatsright:

Absolutely, I think I made it farther than Mia but not by much, and that was by driving my eyes across the pages one word at a time by an effort of will.  I think I made it about 50 pages.  I expect Englishmen and Anglophiles could relate to it, particularly the former when it was written, but I just couldn't get my mind engaged with the story line due to the ponderous personalities, relationships, and descriptions that left me totally uninterested in the fate of any of them.  Much of what Dickens wrote was paid by the word, and it sure shows in that tome.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: asdf2231 on December 30, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
A bit of coolness.

we are trying to rent the cabin I occupied for the month of May for a week to ten days this August so the whole family can go out and see the Olympic penninsula in Washington state. We wont be able to do much if any camping due to the fact that we will be flying out and unable to schlep the gear, but it should be a blast!
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: debk on December 30, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
I liked Steinbeck.....

A good current writer that makes her characters come alive in very topical books is Jody Picoult. I highly recommend Nineteen Minutes and My Sister's Keeper. The first one is about a high school shooting similar to Columbine and the second is about a family with a teminally ill child with cancer who has a second child for a bone marrow donor for the first one. Heavy reading, but they were both quite good.

asdf....that sounds great!!!
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Chris on December 30, 2008, 11:22:30 PM
I liked Grapes of Wrath and East of Eden more than Of Mice And Men.  I remember reading The Pearl only because it was in my literature book in HS.  Steinbeck was worried about being labeled as a Bolshevik or Communist and a liberal after Grapes was published.  I think his wife pushed him and helped him complete it. 
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Chris on December 30, 2008, 11:37:59 PM
Well.  My next-door neighbors are definitely gone.  Again.  This is probably the third set of "neighbors" that have rented that particular apartment in the last two years. 

I wonder who the next set of victims will be.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Chris on December 31, 2008, 12:09:32 AM
Tonight is the Coast to Coast AM New Year's Prediction show.  They're always "interesting". :mental:


http://wlac.com/cc-common/ondemand/player2.html?world=st
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Chris on December 31, 2008, 12:47:01 AM
Oh, Lord... some weirdo is on saying that Denis Kucinich will be the Light, the Way, and the Truth.  Freaks.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: Chris_ on December 31, 2008, 10:45:51 AM
Eudora Welty

You cannot live in Mississippi without knowing about her. 

Wonderful soulful Southern woman.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: DixieBelle on December 31, 2008, 11:24:56 AM
I liked Steinbeck.....

A good current writer that makes her characters come alive in very topical books is Jody Picoult. I highly recommend Nineteen Minutes and My Sister's Keeper. The first one is about a high school shooting similar to Columbine and the second is about a family with a teminally ill child with cancer who has a second child for a bone marrow donor for the first one. Heavy reading, but they were both quite good.

asdf....that sounds great!!!

I like Picoult. I bought Nineteen Minutes and Plain Truth and loved them both. She's formulaic but writes so well you get into it.

And yes Frank, Welty is a great writer. We have a lot of great writers in the South.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: debk on December 31, 2008, 11:48:16 AM
I like Picoult. I bought Nineteen Minutes and Plain Truth and loved them both. She's formulaic but writes so well you get into it.

And yes Frank, Welty is a great writer. We have a lot of great writers in the South.

Dixie...you need to get My Sister's Keeper.....so very unpredictable.
Title: Re: Tuesday. Is there a Catcher in your Rye?
Post by: DixieBelle on December 31, 2008, 12:05:32 PM
^I will. I was going to treat myself to a few books after the holidays. Thanks!