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Title: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 08:09:51 AM
h/t: AoSHQ

Flashback before the election:

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Even as John McCain and Sarah Palin scramble to close the gap in the final days of the 2008 election, stirrings of a Palin insurgency are complicating the campaign's already-tense internal dynamics.

Four Republicans close to Palin said she has decided increasingly to disregard the advice of the former Bush aides tasked to handle her, creating occasionally tense situations as she travels the country with them. Those Palin supporters, inside the campaign and out, said Palin blames her handlers for a botched rollout and a tarnished public image — even as others in McCain's camp blame the pick of the relatively inexperienced Alaska governor, and her public performance, for McCain's decline.

"She's lost confidence in most of the people on the plane," said a senior Republican who speaks to Palin, referring to her campaign jet. He said Palin had begun to "go rogue" in some of her public pronouncements and decisions.

"I think she'd like to go more rogue," he said.

The emergence of a Palin faction comes as Republicans gird for a battle over the future of their party: Some see her as a charismatic, hawkish conservative leader with the potential, still unrealized, to cross over to attract moderate voters. Anger among Republicans who see Palin as a star and as a potential future leader has boiled over because, they say, they see other senior McCain aides preparing to blame her in the event he is defeated.

"These people are going to try and shred her after the campaign to divert blame from themselves," a McCain insider said, referring to McCain's chief strategist, Steve Schmidt, and to Nicolle Wallace, a former Bush aide who has taken a lead role in Palin's campaign. Palin's partisans blame Wallace, in particular, for Palin's avoiding of the media for days and then giving a high-stakes interview to CBS News' Katie Couric, the sometimes painful content of which the campaign allowed to be parceled out over a week.

"A number of Gov. Palin's staff have not had her best interests at heart, and they have not had the campaign's best interests at heart," the McCain insider fumed, noting that Wallace left an executive job at CBS to join the campaign.

Post-election we see the McCain camp throwing her under the bus like Obama at a family reunion.

This is happening because--like all things McCain--he won't STFU and listen to the people he claims to represent. He wouldn't fight on real issues like the market meltdown, Wright etc. Instead he had a confused, mumbling, stumbling geriatric campaign.

Well, excuse the @#$% out of us and our girl if we decided not to follow THAT modus operandi! Palin not being McCain was the only thing that got 40 million of the 55 million GOP voters to show up.

The fact is: THEY @#$%ed up. THEY chose this man that was reviled by the GOP base years before the primaries came up. The RINOs and the democrat saboteurs in New Hampshire gave him his win and the MSM built him up as inevitable. Of course the NYT et al did what we conservatives knew they would do: they called him the savior of the GOP, the Maverick, the Consensus Maker, He Who Reached Across Aisles...

...and as soon as he was nominated they called him The Doom of All Mankind and Palin was all 4 horseman wrapped in $150,000 of clothes should would have no inclination to buy on her own.

McCain seemed to be in denial that his praisers so suddenly became his accusers, but we saw it as yet another sign he won't listen to his betters. His handlers swore to us he could reach across aisles and win the independent middle.

What went wrong?

"It must be that Palin woman!" they started to sneer towards the end when the polls refused to budge for McCain. Surely they couldn't be wrong. They were the smart ones. The ivy leaguers.

MENTAL EXPERIMENT: When looking at the GOP intellectuals who trash Palin don't you feel like you do when liberals trash her? Don't you get that feeling of cold condescension that tells you the only reason you like her is because you just don't know any better? That all of your points about family roots untrampled by government intrusions no matter how well-intentioned are going unheeded because these people are just so smart you're not giving them the chance to make it all work for you?

Do they give you that feeling?

Well, now that they tried their best and--we are being told--we ruined it for them by distracting the poor little babies we will have to rebuild the GOP. Our big fight wasn't with Obama but with ourselves. Compassionate conservativism became big government conservativism even though we warned them nature abhors a paradox. They refuse to admit their errors.

But now that Palin has been reviled from within we cannot use her except as an icon. If we try to hoist her back on the national stage the media, RINOs, and dems will all crow "Palin is universally hated. Heck, half of her own party cannot stand her!" Oh how they will cluck. This is just one more example of what an abysmal president McCain would have made. Granted, he's no commie terrorist sympathizer and Joe Biden is only worthy enough to serve as his valet but McCain is a monumental ass that has been a boat-anchor in this party his whole career.

We need to rebuild our party but the McCainiacs won't let go. We must take it from them well before we turn to looking at 2010. But Palin has been forever denied us as an actual candidate. But we have her template: young, family-centered, normal careers, kids and a basic love of country that works best when it doesn't feel the need to play superhero wiht a government briefcase.

People like...

..you?
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: NHSparky on November 06, 2008, 08:16:46 AM
This from the people who wouldn't go after Obama, tried to make nice-nice and be "centrist".

Now they lost, and if they ever want jobs running campaigns again they have to cover their asses.

I hate to say it, but slimeball shit throwers aren't just the exclusive domain of the Democrats.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 06, 2008, 08:33:07 AM
Her instincts in disregarding them were correct.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 08:39:16 AM
Both of you are exactly right.

Unfortunately they have torn her down to the level she cannot be tapped for a future national-level office perhaps as senator.

I LOATHE the idea of the commie-terrorist sympathizer as my CinC but McCain would have been a disaster as a president. At least now the disaster belongs to the other side and we now have the opportunity to clean house while we watch The Temple of the Chosen One burning down from afar.

Let's sweep-out McCain and all who dared push him onto us.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 06, 2008, 09:01:23 AM
She may not WANT to leave Alaska for national office after the treatment she got not only by the press, but by the doddering and ineffective campaign machinery of her own party and the McCain *cough* 'campaign machine.'  However I can easily see her as a Rep or Senator from Alaska when her Governorship is done, if she chooses to go that way with her career.  Exoneration in the Troopergate thing was a nice close-out to the national campaign, at least.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 09:04:06 AM
My concurrence equals the percentage of the Indianapolis voter registration.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: docstew on November 06, 2008, 10:13:17 AM
of course, if she were to start testing the waters, a good show of support would be to contribute and vote for her. wouldn't be much the media could do then, she's already "been vetted" and anything brought up would be unwarranted attacks.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 10:45:20 AM
...anything brought up would be unwarranted attacks.

Everything from troopergate to the AIP to Trig's parentage was unwarranted.

They still drove her unfavorable rating to 49%.

And now the McCain shitbags are piling-on in an effort to deflect blame away from themselves and their limp candidate. At lesat Bob Dole took Viagra.

But when former campaign staff starts talking about you like this and McCain--in typical tired, old man fashion--allows the attacks to go unanswered your national political career is finished.

As so eloquently stated in the GD forum: **** McCain

He plucked her out, put her front and center, allowed her to be savaged and then abandoned her.

Is Palin big enough to brush this off and move forward? Of course; it's one of the things that makes me cheer for her but as far as McCain is concerned this is conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman.

If Palin re-emerges in later years the ONLY thing you will here is, "Palin is such an idiot, dunce right-wing fundie, corrupt, theocrat even her own boss ended-up regretting taking her on." And since McCain is a seeping sack of shit on a sagging stick no amount of "Not true!" will pierce that talking point and reach the indie-middle.

I can't tell if McCain is oblivious, apathetic or spiteful.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 06, 2008, 10:48:47 AM
The media destroyed her..McCain desserted her.  Her voice annoys everyone.  She can not be our candidate in 2012.  I feel sorry for her..but I would like to see her run for senate, we need a real conservative in congress.

McCain and his supporters need to find a rock and crawl under it. Seriously.  

I listened to Jindal yesterday on Hannity and he seemed shaky.  We are looking for a rising star, he knows he's being examined and it shows.  
We have 3 years to find our rising star. Pawlenty and Jindal can't go up against the Obama Machine..we need someone with bigger balls.  Think a young Reagan or a Newt.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 10:54:17 AM
The media destroyed her..McCain desserted her.  Her voice annoys everyone.  She can not be our candidate in 2012.  I feel sorry for her..but I would like to see her run for senate, we need a real conservative in congress.

McCain and his supporters need to find a rock and crawl under it. Seriously.  

I listened to Jindal yesterday on Hannity and he seemed shaky.  We are looking for a rising star, he knows he's being examined and it shows.  
We have 3 years to find our rising star. Pawlenty and Jindal can't go up against the Obama Machine..we need someone with bigger balls.  Think a young Reagan or a Newt.
Only correction: we have ONE year to find our news starS (plural).
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: lastparker on November 06, 2008, 11:21:31 AM
The only way the GOP can take it back in 2012 is simple:  do NOT put a woman on the ballot.

Chauvanism is alive and well. The treatment of both Hillary and Sarah proves it.  The media ran with it, characterizing Hillary as a pant-suit wearing, emasculating, ball busting dyke and Sarah as a brainless, half-witted washed up beauty queen.

So **** you, Keith Olbermann, Tina Fey and the harpies on the View, and **** the rest of you who did it more subtly:  Matt Lauer, Viera, O'Brien, et al.  The majority of middle America follows the media like mindless sheeple.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Eupher on November 06, 2008, 11:52:48 AM
We may not be considering how AMBITIOUS Sarah Palin is.

While the end game is playing itself out and she's been thrown under the bus, I'm not so sure that she isn't smart enough to figure out how to turn that to her benefit.

Playing the victim card has been done nicely in the past, especially by Hillary when Bill was having his dong slurped by Monica.

What we're seeing here is the inevitable chaos that occurs when a power vacuum occurs. There is lots of scrambling to try and figure out who's going to step into that vacuum and plug the leak.

Let's be patient and see where this takes us. I dare say that we're not done seeing Sarah Palin on the national stage.

And while I agree that chauvinism is alive and well and living in Chicago, Sarah Palin was a draw that cannot be ignored.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Tnafbrat on November 06, 2008, 12:02:57 PM
I'm with you Euph...... she's not a whiney curl up and die type gal and, she's smart.  I expect to see more out of her and I'd say plans are already being made.  The McCain handlers can just find their rock .... it was the same ole with absolutely no ground game and the republicans do NOT know how to fight.  I get the feeling that she does and I'll say now what I said after her 2nd speech,  tell the handlers to SFU and let Sarah be Sarah.  I'm watching with interest.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: USA4ME on November 06, 2008, 12:05:01 PM
The country club blue-blood Republicans don't like Christian conservatives and this is an extention of that.  They're foolish enough to believe they can win elections without us, and/or they would prefer we go away in exchange for being in the minority.  Really stupid on their part because it will eventually be both their demise and that of the country, but they're short-sighted and don't see it that way.

.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: NHSparky on November 06, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
Disclaimer:  Yes, it's David Frum making the claim, but there's too much smoke here for there NOT to be fire...

LINK (http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTA3MDY2NGE3ODFjYjViNjhlOGFkMWZiNzYwZWRmYjY=)

Nicole's Knifework

Wow -that is some savage cutting & gutting that Nicole Wallace has just performed upon Sarah Palin. Nicole & I crossed swords once, during the Harriet Miers nomination battle. Watching what Nicole can do when she is seriously annoyed, I am grateful that I got away from that fight with nothing worse than a few bumps and bruises ....

That said: Some of these stories do not ring quite true to me, especially the story about Palin allegedly not realizing that Africa was a continent rather than a country. Apparently she did not grasp that "South Africa" was not the same thing as "southern Africa." But there a lot of possible innocent explanations for a mistake like that.

Larger  point: Would it not better serve the cause of understanding for Nicole Wallace to give an on-camera interview to Carl Cameron and state these points in her own voice - and allow viewers to asses their credibility? Wallace's fingerprints are all over these leaks anyway, so it's not as if she has any anonymity to lose.

=============================================================================

Yes, the same Nicole Wallace that sat by and let Palin take the hit over the wardrobe flap.  The same person who lists Katie Couric as one of her most admired people, and the person who INSISTED Palin interview with Couric FIRST.

Coincidence?  Maybe, but a hell of one if it is.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 06, 2008, 12:08:30 PM
Palin was an outsider and got the bad end from the RNC, speficially the Beltway ones.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 06, 2008, 12:11:20 PM
Yes, the same Nicole Wallace that sat by and let Palin take the hit over the wardrobe flap.  The same person who lists Katie Couric as one of her most admired people, and the person who INSISTED Palin interview with Couric FIRST.

Coincidence?  Maybe, but a hell of one if it is.
So in other words: McCain is a bigger idiot than we imagined...it started with the launch of his campaign's inner circle.

EDIT: Does Frum foresee the coming of RINO open season and wants to weasel back into our good graces after cheerleading McCain during the primaries and dissing Palin during the general? Or is this a principled mea culpa and he's making atonement by unmasking this shrew?
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Thor on November 06, 2008, 12:14:34 PM
Pawlenty and Jindal can't go up against the Obama Machine..we need someone with bigger balls.  Think a young Reagan or a Newt.

Jindal MIGHT be able to take on Obama in a few years. Pawlenty is a dweeb RINO.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Chris_ on November 06, 2008, 12:14:45 PM
Throwing Mrs. Palin under the bus is probably the WORST thing the blue-blood RINOs could have done.  They may have vetted her, but I'll bet you a month's pay that they didn't pay attention to a damned thing they found out about her.

Like, for example, how Mrs. Palin became mayor of Wasilla by taking on entrenched corruption - and winning.  And then, when she ran for governor, she was doing the same thing - this time against her own party - and beat a corrupt REPUBLICAN incumbent Governor, without party support at all - the party big whigs were suppporting the incumbent.

I wonder what makes them think that she NEEDS THEM to advance a political career, after showing them soooo many times that she needs no such thing....
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 06, 2008, 12:41:04 PM
Throwing Mrs. Palin under the bus is probably the WORST thing the blue-blood RINOs could have done.  They may have vetted her, but I'll bet you a month's pay that they didn't pay attention to a damned thing they found out about her.

Like, for example, how Mrs. Palin became mayor of Wasilla by taking on entrenched corruption - and winning.  And then, when she ran for governor, she was doing the same thing - this time against her own party - and beat a corrupt REPUBLICAN incumbent Governor, without party support at all - the party big whigs were suppporting the incumbent.

I wonder what makes them think that she NEEDS THEM to advance a political career, after showing them soooo many times that she needs no such thing....

Since Palin beat an entrenched and corrupted Republican, she was thrown under the bus by them.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Chris_ on November 06, 2008, 12:46:05 PM
Since Palin beat an entrenched and corrupted Republican, she was thrown under the bus by them.

My point however, is who says anything about her being DONE beating corrupt, entrenched Republicans?

I don't see this woman giving up the hunt just because the damned Moose charged her.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Eupher on November 06, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
My point however, is who says anything about her being DONE beating corrupt, entrenched Republicans?

I don't see this woman giving up the hunt just because the damned Moose charged her.

bingo.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Tnafbrat on November 06, 2008, 01:11:40 PM
Exactly!  ..... She's more likely to go hunt down the damn moose, kill it and hang it's head on a plaque in her den.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: THA HOUSTON PIMP IS IN DA HOUZ! on November 06, 2008, 03:24:42 PM
So **** you, Keith Olbermann, Tina Fey and the harpies on the View, and **** the rest of you who did it more subtly:  Matt Lauer, Viera, O'Brien, et al.  The majority of middle America follows the media like mindless sheeple.

Yeah that.

Here's what I think of them...


 :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: RightCoast on November 06, 2008, 06:02:46 PM
The only way the GOP can take it back in 2012 is simple:  do NOT put a woman on the ballot.

Chauvanism is alive and well. The treatment of both Hillary and Sarah proves it.  The media ran with it, characterizing Hillary as a pant-suit wearing, emasculating, ball busting dyke and Sarah as a brainless, half-witted washed up beauty queen.

So **** you, Keith Olbermann, Tina Fey and the harpies on the View, and **** the rest of you who did it more subtly:  Matt Lauer, Viera, O'Brien, et al.  The majority of middle America follows the media like mindless sheeple.

If Chauvinism is alive and well how's racism doing??

4 years of barack is a very long time, the U.S. will be very different then it is now and she has huge conservative support, I wouldn't count her out.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: miskie on November 06, 2008, 06:08:49 PM
Palin will be back - If everything goes right, she may end up as Steven's successor in the Senate.

And then the 'inexperienced' crap will come to an end by '12.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Splashdown on November 06, 2008, 06:12:36 PM
I think the MSM is going the way of the wooly mammoth. Newspaper sales are way off...FoxNews is way up as far as news-watching programs go.

I think she has a chance. She needs to overcome the "inexperience" tag. She needs to stay a bit on the national stage. Maybe a few guest appearances on the news talk shows (the good ones), etc.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Airwolf on November 06, 2008, 09:21:52 PM
We should watch and we should wait. In 2012 Her time will come again and those of us that want to see the damage fixed by our side will have all the reasons we need to elect her if she wants to run. Otherwise we my end up with another race with the same cast and no direction from them. We need a good strong leader and so far Sarah is the only one with more balls then 90% of the so caled moderates.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Lacarnut on November 06, 2008, 09:36:56 PM
We should watch and we should wait. In 2012 Her time will come again and those of us that want to see the damage fixed by our side will have all the reasons we need to elect her if she wants to run. Otherwise we my end up with another race with the same cast and no direction from them. We need a good strong leader and so far Sarah is the only one with more balls then 90% of the so caled moderates.

Right on. I would love to see her debate the Magic Negro in 2012. I think she could eat his lunch and kick him in the balls at the same time. Sarah for 2012. I would even donate to her campaign which would be a first for me. 
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on November 06, 2008, 09:44:13 PM
The only way the GOP can take it back in 2012 is simple:  do NOT put a woman on the ballot.

Chauvanism is alive and well. The treatment of both Hillary and Sarah proves it.  The media ran with it, characterizing Hillary as a pant-suit wearing, emasculating, ball busting dyke and Sarah as a brainless, half-witted washed up beauty queen.

So **** you, Keith Olbermann, Tina Fey and the harpies on the View, and **** the rest of you who did it more subtly:  Matt Lauer, Viera, O'Brien, et al.  The majority of middle America follows the media like mindless sheeple.

I was so disgusted during this campaign. Even my own sister (she doesn't know that I post here so I can be more candid than elsewhere) bought into that media filth. She kept talking about how stupid Palin was, blah, blah. I still haven't talked to her since a few days before the election. I'm not ready yet. Her husband voted for Obama. I don't want to be like a DUumie, but I just need the time to settle down.

McCain wasn't my first choice, but I had respected him. That respect is less now, as he didn't stand up for Palin. He could have made those staffers knock it off. And if he had someone from CBS, then he's more naive than I thought.

He always was flattered by the media attention. Maybe he's learned too late who he can trust and who he can't.

In some ways he might have been worse than Obama. At least Obama knows how to organize. (but I don't trust him).
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: RightCoast on November 06, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
I was so disgusted during this campaign. Even my own sister (she doesn't know that I post here so I can be more candid than elsewhere) bought into that media filth. She kept talking about how stupid Palin was, blah, blah. I still haven't talked to her since a few days before the election. I'm not ready yet. Her husband voted for Obama. I don't want to be like a DUumie, but I just need the time to settle down.

McCain wasn't my first choice, but I had respected him. That respect is less now, as he didn't stand up for Palin. He could have made those staffers knock it off. And if he had someone from CBS, then he's more naive than I thought.

He always was flattered by the media attention. Maybe he's learned too late who he can trust and who he can't.

In some ways he might have been worse than Obama. At least Obama knows how to organize. (but I don't trust him).


McCain could have won this, I would not be at all supprised if he was torpedoed by someone on his staff.  We'll never know for sure - but that election was his to lose.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 06, 2008, 10:25:43 PM

the sarah bashing isn't even in high gear yet.  there are always books written about failed presidential campaigns, especially "history making" failed presidential campaigns.  there will be more knives in her back by june than you can count.

one of my fiends had a great idea about her future and the stevens situation.  after he is expelled from the senate, she shouldn't appoint herself to his seat as an interim senator (and that is a complex subject all by itself), since that would cause an uproar, but she could run in the special election, perhaps even resigning the governor's office in order to do so.  the Lt. Governor is not only a republican, but apparently a solid conservative himself.  (in fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for steven's seat if Sarah doesn't).

that way she would earn the senate seat by democratic election.  in 2012, she would have several year experience as a governor, and 4 years experience in the senate.  THEN watch the MSM try to stop her.

Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: rich_t on November 06, 2008, 10:32:01 PM


McCain could have won this, I would not be at all supprised if he was torpedoed by someone on his staff.  We'll never know for sure - but that election was his to lose.

Part of the problem is that Mccain brought in that pit bull as a VP candidate, then put on a leash and slapped a muzzle on her.  He should have just turned her loose, as she was way more popular than he was.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Eupher on November 06, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
It's entirely possible that McCain ripped ALL of 'em a new asshole before shitcanning the whole enchilada. They, in turn, decided to rip on the only person they could - Palin.

Little kids do that kinda shit, don't they?
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: rich_t on November 06, 2008, 11:34:16 PM
It's entirely possible that McCain ripped ALL of 'em a new ******* before shitcanning the whole enchilada. They, in turn, decided to rip on the only person they could - Palin.

Little kids do that kinda shit, don't they?

I will believe that ONLY if McCain comes out and publically denounces what is being said about her.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Zeus on November 06, 2008, 11:47:13 PM
 Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) wins re-election but due to legal problems resigns from office. Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) appoints herself to fill Stevens remaining term in office. Sen. Palin(R-AK) runs for President in 2013

 :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 06, 2008, 11:56:55 PM
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) wins re-election but due to legal problems resigns from office. Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) appoints herself to fill Stevens remaining term in office. Sen. Palin(R-AK) runs for President in 2013

 :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

by alaska law, they have to conduct a special election to fill a senate vacancy.  but there is no law that says that she can't run in it.  she'd win in a walk.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: formerlurker on November 07, 2008, 05:54:24 AM
Sarah Palin is going to be groomed the next two years by the RNC.   She will be used for fundraising, and will bring in significant funds for the party. 

The Sarah Palin you see in 2010, when the presidential campaign roles out, will be a more lethal one.   

Good for her.   I'll be watching.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Eupher on November 07, 2008, 07:56:25 AM
Sarah Palin is going to be groomed the next two years by the RNC.   She will be used for fundraising, and will bring in significant funds for the party. 

The Sarah Palin you see in 2010, when the presidential campaign roles out, will be a more lethal one.   

Good for her.   I'll be watching.

 :popcorn:

Agreed. She's already been through the muckraking and the shit-slinging by the Dems, MSM, and disaffected staffers of McCain's campaign.

She's weathered all that exceptionally well.

It's all downhill from here.

There's one thing that she's gotta work on, though. Her voice. Like Hillary's, it tends to be shrill and strident. That tends to piss off listeners (me, anyway). She can impart excitement and galvanize people by keeping a short, staccato delivery that reveals a pretty sharp wit.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Eupher on November 07, 2008, 08:27:56 AM
From the Wall Street Journal:

Quote
Sarah Palin - 'I Haven't Always Just Toed the Line'
The GOP's vice-presidential pick says she'd work on energy, government reform and special-needs kids in the White House

By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

Cape Girardeau, Missouri

Ask Sarah Palin what she has found most surprising about her campaign experience and she replies, with more than a touch of humility, "the enthusiasm." She's got a point.

Wending my way through the traffic and crowds around the Palin event in this small river city on Thursday morning, I began to wonder if the whole state hadn't shown up. Walking the cold half-hour from the nearest parking space, I passed mobs of disappointed voters who had already been turned away for lack of space. Inside the city's Show Me Center, thousands of roaring, stomping, sign-waving Palin fans were practically hanging from the rafters. It felt like, well . . . an Obama rally.
 
And there you have the paradox of Sarah Palin. The press has brutalized the Alaska governor, playing gotcha with her record, digging through her family life. The liberal intelligentsia has declared her unfit for office, a rube, a right-wing maniac. The conservative intelligentsia has accused her of being a lightweight, of "anti-intellectualism." Polls suggest a significant number of voters believe she is not up for the job.
Yet her supporters idolize her -- all the more because of the criticism. Mrs. Palin has, for millions of Americans, become a symbol of a reformist average Jane, a working mom, ready to take on the Washington they detest. Talking to Missourians before the event, I heard little mention of flashpoint issues like her religious views, or her experience. I was instead repeatedly, and vociferously, informed that a Vice President Palin would "fix that place" and "shape up the GOP." I also heard a lot about how she would accomplish all this because she was a "real" person.

The governor is one of those politicians with the gift of connecting with her audience, a trait that surely has helped with her quick political rise. "I'm so glad you're here!" she said as I walked in to the holding room, with such warmth I wondered if she might actually mean it. As in her staged events, she comes across in person as confident.

The tasks of "fixing" Washington and "shaping up" the GOP are no small things, whether from inside the West Wing, or depending on Tuesday, from some future role as a party leader. And so, after a firm handshake and an introduction to First Dude Todd, I ask the governor if we could forgo the stump speech and talk about her contribution to this ticket, and the future of the party. Why, exactly, are Republicans as a whole struggling so badly? Are the liberal pundits right that modern conservatism has run its course?

"The planks in the Republican platform are good, they are strong. Economically speaking, Republicans support a uniquely American system that rewards hard work and empowers the entrepreneurial spirit that made this country the greatest country on earth. And on the national security front . . . it is about strength through power, it is about diplomacy across this world, allowing America to lead us toward a more peaceful world. On those planks -- economic and national security -- the Republican Party has the right agenda."

The problem, she explains, is a failure to deliver. "We must prove to the American people that we will live out the ideals and the values articulated in that platform." She says that "in too many cases" the GOP has let voters down, in particular on spending and with the abuse of earmarking. She argues the most effective way to revamp the party is from the top, by putting her ticket in the Oval Office, where it will enforce discipline. "We have a track record that proves we can reform government. And ultimately, that will reform the Republican Party."

Emphasis is mine.

Edit: deleted about half of the article to conform to the TOU. The rest, of course, is linked below.
Don't Count Her Out (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122549413952789295.html)

Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 07, 2008, 10:16:45 AM
He always was flattered by the media attention. Maybe he's learned too late who he can trust and who he can't.

Fat chance.  Why would that suddenly happen now after 30 years in office?
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Kasha on November 07, 2008, 10:34:23 AM
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Rasmussen: 69% of GOP Voters Say Palin Helped McCain

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency, even as news reports surface that some McCain staffers think she was a liability.

Only 20% of GOP voters say Palin hurt the party’s ticket, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Six percent (6%) say she had no impact, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%.

Three other sitting governors – Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota – all pull low single-digit support.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: Rebel on November 07, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
He sure as hell came out within 2 f'n seconds to denounce those Wright/Obama as in North Carolina.

Where's he at now that his own damn running mate is being trashed?

I'm sorry, but **** you McCain.
Title: Re: Alas, Palin's National Political Career is Dead
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 07, 2008, 11:41:50 AM
As much respect as I have for John McCain the POW hero, I cringed when I knew he was going to be the nominee.  But, on the day after the Barackopolis speech, when I flipped on Fox & Friends and saw the line, "New Name Appears:  Sarah Palin," I knew that if not this cycle, Gov. Palin would be living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue the next one.  It's pretty much the same class of feeling I felt after seeing Barack Obama deliver the 2004 DNC keynote address.  Then, I knew that we'd see him again, but it wouldn't be for good.  I know that we'll be seeing Gov. Palin again, and this time, it will be for good.

I heard that there's more than a few pundits that have been saying that whoever won, he'd probably be the last President from that party for 16 to 20 years, with the economic crisis warming up (the Big Three automakers are asking for $50 billion more in loans now), and now that the Dems comtrol the Senate, the House, and the Oval Office, their blood will be deep.  Couple that with the Dem predisposal against national security, as evidenced by their resistence to anything that President Bush wanted to do in the GWOT, and one can expect a massive terrorist attack or two to happen next year.  Remember that al Qaeda came after Clinton within three months, and GWB in eight months.

The pendulum always swings back.