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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Chris on October 26, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
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Charlie W. Williams (http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/26/the-color-purple-one-of-change/) of Raeford, N.C., a veteran of the Korean and Vietnam wars and supporter of Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama, lines up early to get into a rally at the Crown Coliseum in Fayetteville on Oct. 19. "He's going to get a lot of white votes," he said of his candidate.
There's much more at Gateway Pundit (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/surprise-another-phony-soldier-for.html).
Is that a Boy Scout merit badge?? :rotf:
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I didn't know Airborne was a branch of the military. :rotf:
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you have to read this: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=4391 :-)
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I think the female E-7 shoulder boards are what makes that uniform complete.
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I think the female E-7 shoulder boards are what makes that uniform complete.
:evillaugh:
Do I see a Ranger AND and Airborne medals? And what's the AA patch? I know we have a couple of members that served there, but I forgot what it was.
And is that the expert rifle medal?
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:evillaugh:
Do I see a Ranger AND and Airborne medals? And what's the AA patch? I know we have a couple of members that served there, but I forgot what it was.
And is that the expert rifle medal?
There's a LOT wrong with his medals as this blogger points out:
I also looked for images of Army Medals and discovered that I also needed to find some Navy Medals, too.
The highest award is two awards of the Bronze Star, one with a ‘V’ for valor. Since it’s illegal to claim a medal for valor you’re not awarded, I absolutely believe that, without further evidence to the contrary. The rest are (in order viewers’ left to right and descending);
Purple Heart/Army Commendation Medal
Defense Meritorious Service Medal/Army Meritorious Service Medal
Reserve Component Overseas Training/Republic of Korea Service Medal/Army Acheivement/Good Conduct
Army of Occupation/Southwest Asia Service (Desert Storm)/Vietnam Service medal (3 stars)/National Defense
NATO Medal/Korea Service/Armed Forces Service Medal/Army Service Ribbon
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal/Army Overseas Ribbon /Navy Meritorious Unit/Navy Combat Action
United Nations Service/Republic of Viet Nam Campaign/Multinational Force and Observers Medal/Outstanding Volunteer Medal
Aside from the fact that his ribbons are all out of order (something a career NCO would never do), he has the Southwest Asia medal for Desert Storm, the Armed Forces Service medal (which is for service after 1992). He’s also wearing a Navy Combat Action ribbon, which he only could’ve earned as a member of the Navy or Marines. He also has an Overseas Service Ribbon which can only be awarded to people on active duty after 1981. The Multinational Force and Observers Medal didn’t come into being until Jimmy Carter started sending troops to the Sinai. His National Defense Service Medal has an oak leaf cluster, subsequent awards of the NDSM are denoted by a bronze star device not an oak leaf.
Willie is wearing medals and ribbons that didn’t come into existence until after he left the service since he says he was in Korea and Vietnam. He wears a star on his CIB so that means he had to have been in the Korean War before July 27, 1953. Since his Good Conduct Medal has five knots, he must’ve served between 15-18 years (each knot is three years of service) but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he did twenty, that means he retired before July 1973 and many of the medals he wears didn’t even exist at the time he retired and they’re awarded for service he couldn’t have.
The Outstanding Volunteer Medal didn’t come into existence until 1992 - Willie could have won it but he would had 40 years of service, but even Colin Powell only did 35. Most E-7s get booted if they don’t get promoted to E-8 before they hit 22 years.
He’s also sporting a 555th Parachute Infantry patch - the famous “Colored†Paratroopers. They disbanded in 1950 before the Korean War when the Army desegregated.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=4391#comment-63322
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Did ya'll catch the Eagle Scout badge??
I believe this is a just world.............................we have found Jesse Macbeth's father
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Did ya'll catch the Eagle Scout badge??
I believe this is a just world.............................we have found Jesse Macbeth's father
WHat I want to know is who this guy thinks he is, stealing TiT's uniform and then parading around in public with it ?
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His awards are as ****ed up as a soup sandwich. BSM-PH-ARCOM, THEN a Joint MSM and an Army MSM?!? A Marine marksmanship badge? Every campaign and service award available from 1953-2001...but no NDSM??? And is that a DSC under the Good Conduct Medal Ribbon -- WTF, over? I'm thinking Ol' Willie 'Self-awarded' a bunch of that lettuce, if he'd ever had them on active duty he'd at least have the order right.
On his right side, he also appears to have, preposterously if for reasons at opposite ends of the scale, both the OSR and BSM as unit citations, which is, ummmmm, 'Unusual.'
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....and 3 buffalo nickels......I guess he was a buffalo soldier. maybe?????
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I guess the business card counts as a medal too. :whatever:
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I also see a Navy Meritorious Unit Citation (MUC). Not freakin likely he's got one of those.
Stolen Valor, anyone?
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1096.htm
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His awards are as ****ed up as a soup sandwich. BSM-PH-ARCOM, THEN a Joint MSM and an Army MSM?!? A Marine marksmanship badge? Every campaign and service award available from 1953-2001...but no NDSM??? And is that a DSC under the Good Conduct Medal Ribbon -- WTF, over? I'm thinking Ol' Willie 'Self-awarded' a bunch of that lettuce, if he'd ever had them on active duty he'd at least have the order right.
On his right side, he also appears to have, preposterously if for reasons at opposite ends of the scale, both the OSR and BSM as unit citations, which is, ummmmm, 'Unusual.'
Don't forget he's also sporting the Navy/USMC Cobat Action Ribbon.
:whatever:
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More importantly... if his last name is Williams, why does his name patch say "WILLIE"?? WTF?
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More importantly... if his last name is Williams, why does his name patch say "WILLIE"?? WTF?
The Military was a differant place back in the 50's. Thats how the man was keeping him down. :lmao:
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Did y'all see the Humanitarian Service Medal on the right side, behind a gold surround ?? Then, there's the SW Asia service ribbon from Desert Storm.
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Bottom line, this clown/dirtbag (and yes, I'll use the term regardless of his service) is giving the rest of us who served a big eff you. I'd love to see him roll into the local Legion hall wearing that shit.
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you have to read this: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=4391 :-)
Ya gotta love Jonn. I asked him once right after Senator Reid said the surge was a failure (before it had even begun) what he thought of the good Senator's comments. His reply--"It was all I could do not to wait in the Senate Parking Garage with a sock full of quarters."
I'm telling you, he'd be an incredible addition here, if he could ever find the time.
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Pathfinder badge worn on the wrong side, Three Presidential Unit Citations, Master Para with a 2/508th oval, a lot of crap I don't know, Are those Vietnamese jump wings?
No Jumpmaster is gonna be wearing that shit so ****ed up. Regardless of when he served, that's a lot of bullshit, there.
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Pathfinder badge worn on the wrong side, Three Presidential Unit Citations, Master Para with a 2/508th oval, a lot of crap I don't know, Are those Vietnamese jump wings?
No Jumpmaster is gonna be wearing that shit so ****ed up. Regardless of when he served, that's a lot of bullshit, there.
Go back to Jonn's blog. He also got some info on this gentleman. One thing jumped out at me:
TAFMS: 293
293 days active duty. In 25 YEARS. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Oak Leaf Cluster on his Bronze Star a SILVER one, denoting not one but FIVE additional awards?
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Unless Commander and National Commander are different, he doesn't look anything like the real National Commander Jeff Roy (http://www.purpleheart.org/Membership/Files/Magazines/2008/2008-5-Sept-Oct.pdf).
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Pathfinder badge on the right? Reserve overseas ahead of an AAM? Name tape on the left? Southwest Asia service medal? ....and is that an Army Occupation ribbon?
Damn, how many years did this dude serve? 50?
There is so f'n much wrong with that it's funny. Against the law, but funny.
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This guy must be kin to TiT somehow.
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Do Army Doggies get awarded the Humanitarian Service medal?? And if so, is it worn on the right breast ??
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Do Army Doggies get awarded the Humanitarian Service medal?? And if so, is it worn on the right breast ??
yeah, they can get it, but it's on the left, with the rest of the national awards.
only unit awards or foreign awards are on the right.
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And that tie is clearly not okay, either. :p
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And that tie is clearly not okay, either. :p
Man, there's so much wrong with that dipshit, it would take a 2-page document to point it out.
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WTF? There are just not enough ways to call Bullshit on this one. I think someone got jelous of TiT and all the attention he was getting.
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Do Army Doggies get awarded the Humanitarian Service medal?? And if so, is it worn on the right breast ??
Not the same as Navy, and Army Regs prevent them from wearing the MUC as well. That goes back to the Iran hostage crisis.
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Not the same as Navy, and Army Regs prevent them from wearing the MUC as well. That goes back to the Iran hostage crisis.
We can wear the Meritorious Unit Commendation while we're with the unit that has received it, or permanently if we were assigned to a unit that received it. (Right)
As for the Humanitarian medal, yes, we wear those as well. Many were handed out when we deployed during the Hurricane Mitch Relief Effort to places like El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Guatemala. (Left)
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BTW, I've never heard of SFC Airborne's unit. Willie? Are they a part of the Navy? :-)
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We can wear the Meritorious Unit Commendation while we're with the unit that has received it, or permanently if we were assigned to a unit that received it. (Right)
As for the Humanitarian medal, yes, we wear those as well. Many were handed out when we deployed during the Hurricane Mitch Relief Effort to places like El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Guatemala. (Left)
Ah, then the guy on Jonn's blog was incorrect, or the Army units that were in the Gulf in 1980 were not "attached" to the Kitty Hawk CVBG, which was awarded the MUC.
Either way, this guy is wearing a LOT of shit to which he is not, never was, should never have been entitled.
And to clarify--I've no issue with reservists per se, but if you're going to tell me that a guy who was on AD for less than 10 months in a 25-year period somehow got all that awarded to him, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell to you too. Had he in fact deployed to Vietnam his TFAMS would be significantly higher. Ditto Korea.
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And to clarify--I've no issue with reservists per se, but if you're going to tell me that a guy who was on AD for less than 10 months in a 25-year period somehow got all that awarded to him, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell to you too. Had he in fact deployed to Vietnam his TFAMS would be significantly higher. Ditto Korea.
Oh, hell no. This moron is a damn poser. If you wanna see how a shitload of ribbons and decorations look when they're in correct order, here's one of our USMILNET Mod's pic:
http://antenori.com/?page_id=4
http://antenori.com/?page_id=39
That guy has so much shit wrong with his uniform it's easy to pick out. He has a reserve overseas decoration ahead of an AAM and a GCM, for starters. Not to mention, I see no NCO professional development ribbon. It would have a 3 in the middle of it, denoting the schools it takes to make it to E-7, in my day it was PLDC, BNCOC, and ANCOC. PLDC is now called WLC. I only had the ribbon as I only went to PLDC at Ft. Benning, Ga. TRG will have the 3 device when he goes to ANCOC, unless he's already attended.
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BTW, I've never heard of SFC Airborne's unit. Willie? Are they a part of the Navy? :-)
The article explains (if I remember correctly) it was an all black unit that disbanded before Willie would have been in the service.
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The article explains (if I remember correctly) it was an all black unit that disbanded before Willie would have been in the service.
No, I mean his name tape is in the place of his branch. :-)
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No, I mean his name tape is in the place of his branch. :-)
:thatsright: Sorry.
*leaves to get more coffe*
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:thatsright: Sorry.
*leaves to get more coffe*
Bring me some, too.........
coffee bitch
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I believe that Bronze Star with a V device could land the moron in jail.
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Bring me some, too.........
coffee bitch
:stirpot:
Aorry, you have me mistaken for the AF...see dj for that.
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I believe that Bronze Star with a V device could land the moron in jail.
Mike Boorda killed himself over it--before it was ever a crime.