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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on October 17, 2008, 06:15:36 PM
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myself, I think Ohio is a lost cause after seeing the SCOTUS decision this afternoon. I chose option 2. but I have been pessimistic all year.
but I think we will take back both houses of congress in 2010.
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I got McCain easy. People will vote their wallets and I think the GOP has them thinking really hard about that now.
You have to remember that a lot of people in cities and such make 250k+. Thats a big bite they'll be feeling and those educated city dwellers are what BO has been counting on. Not only does momma want a new pair of shoes, she needs that granite top kitchen and Beemer every year.
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I got McCain easy. People will vote their wallets and I think the GOP has them thinking really hard about that now.
You have to remember that a lot of people in cities and such make 250k+. Thats a big bite they'll be feeling and those educated city dwellers are what BO has been counting on. Not only does momma want a new pair of shoes, she needs that granite top kitchen and Beemer every year.
but cities are urban areas, jim, and we never do well there. in fact, we typically get blown out.
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but cities are urban areas, jim, and we never do well there. in fact, we typically get blown out.
Yes. But maybe we get blown out by a little less. Kind of offset the extra votes the guys in the hood will be getting. Remember that by and large its winner take all for a state so all we have to do is offset the fraud.
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Yes. But maybe we get blown out by a little less. Kind of offset the extra votes the guys in the hood will be getting. Remember that by and large its winner take all for a state so all we have to do is offset the fraud.
I only hope that you are right. the poll numbers are closing, but at this point in 2004, GWB had overtaken kerry. oh, I have a link for that somewhere. let me look it up.
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myself, I think Ohio is a lost cause after seeing the SCOTUS decision this afternoon. I chose option 2. but I have been pessimistic all year.
but I think we will take back both houses of congress in 2010.
I hope you are correct about the Congress .The SCOTUS decision was as I expected and this election depends on just how stupid some Americans really are or how guilty .If obama wins and congress is all progressive liberals we are screwed and America will go down the tube for sure.Why hasn't this Acorn crap been put to bed long before now.They pulled this same crap during the last cycle and should have been defunded and broken up by now .
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Well I voted Ooooobama sqeaker but I think I would rather vote McCain sqeaker.
Kerry didn't have any of Ooooobama's charisma and was considered a lock so...it worries me that so many people are caught up in the messiah.
I just hope the adults show up to the polls on election day. Part of my gut tells me that Obama can't win without a little "assistance" be it in the form of ACORN or the MSM trying to demoralize the conservatives. In a straight race, with both candidates given equal time and no obvious bias, McCain wins hands down. But, that's not the reality.
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I hope you are correct about the Congress .The SCOTUS decision was as I expected and this election depends on just how stupid some Americans really are or how guilty .If obama wins and congress is all progressive liberals we are screwed and America will go down the tube for sure.Why hasn't this Acorn crap been put to bed long before now.They pulled this same crap during the last cycle and should have been defunded and broken up by now .
I agree that we should have seen this coming. that's on us.
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Well I voted Ooooobama sqeaker but I think I would rather vote McCain sqeaker.
Kerry didn't have any of Ooooobama's charisma and was considered a lock so...it worries me that so many people are caught up in the messiah.
I just hope the adults show up to the polls on election day. Part of my gut tells me that Obama can't win without a little "assistance" be it in the form of ACORN or the MSM trying to demoralize the conservatives. In a straight race, with both candidates given equal time and no obvious bias, McCain wins hands down. But, that's not the reality.
I think that Sarah Palin has totally screwed them up. she jazzes up the base, and I am sure she will turn our base out in droves. I am already prepared to potentially lose in november, but vote for her in 2012 with a GOP congress already in place.
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Hussein, but close. Seems they're always pretty close.
Dems increase their majority in the House and Senate, but not enough in the Senate to have a supermajority.
But given this election season, there's still two-and-a-half weeks left, so anything could change.
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I only hope that you are right. the poll numbers are closing, but at this point in 2004, GWB had overtaken kerry. oh, I have a link for that somewhere. let me look it up.
Yeah, but were the polling people as overly stacked in dem percentages as this time ?
Great article on this the other day.
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Hussein, but close. Seems they're always pretty close.
Dems increase their majority in the House and Senate, but not enough in the Senate to have a supermajority.
But given this election season, there's still two-and-a-half weeks left, so anything could change.
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I have been a stalwart defender of john mccain here at CC. I consider him to be a true american hero. but I have always disliked his politics, and he pretty much stinks as a candidate on the campaign trail. if it weren't for Sarah Palin, I would be considering staying at home on election day.
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myself, I think Ohio is a lost cause after seeing the SCOTUS decision this afternoon. I chose option 2. but I have been pessimistic all year.
but I think we will take back both houses of congress in 2010.
I have to admit i was a little disappointed with the SCOTUS but it you read the details it really just amounted to buying her time not letting her off the hook.
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Yeah, but were the polling people as overly stacked in dem percentages as this time ?
Great article on this the other day.
gallup actually admitted that they had a different model for this election than for all other elections. I pointed that out in a post somewhere.
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I have to admit i was a little disappointed with the SCOTUS but it you read the details it really just amounted to buying her time not letting her off the hook.
quite frankly, the federalist in me understood why the SCOTUS didn't want to get involved.
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I have been a stalwart defender of john mccain here at CC. I consider him to be a true american hero. but I have always disliked his politics, and he pretty much stinks as a candidate on the campaign trail. if it weren't for Sarah Palin, I would be considering staying at home on election day.
I feel much the same .If they were smart (I am a hopeless optimist, the RNC has proven they have no guts )they would have gone with Sarah as POTUS and Mc Cain as Veep. I love the smell of overheated liberals burning with rage over Sarah ! :-)
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I feel much the same .If they were smart (I am a hopeless optimist, the RNC has proven they have no guts )they would have gone with Sarah as POTUS and Mc Cain as Veep. I love the smell of overheated liberals burning with rage over Sarah ! :-)
going with Sarah as presidential nominee would have been the equivalent of going with obama as . . . oh, wait. :whatever:
:-)
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McCain, easily. This is not 2004, the only election year in which the polls were anywhere close to the actual results - the MSM has lost all touch with reality over Barack Hussein Obama, and their polls were wrong in the primaries, and they're wrong now.
Drudge has a headline earlier that read "AP/Yahoo Poll: Obama 44%, McCain 42%" that was comprised of:
Interviews: 1,769 adults; 1,528 registered voters
873 Democrats; 650 Republicans
and this of registered voters, NOT likely voters. McGovern and Dukakis both counted on the "youth vote" and got nowhere. ACORN's fraud is rampant, but that's angering the American people, as is the way Barack Hussein Obama et al are attacking that plumber in Ohio for his tax troubles, while ignoring those of his sister-in-law and even his own campaign treasurer"
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/guess-who-else-has-tax-liens/
And his co-horts in the MSM have already invesitgated Joe the Plumber more than they have Bill Ayers. :whatever:
They've tried to make an issue out of Sarah Palin, that didn't even work with Dan Qualye. The Democrat Party has nominated a pig in a poke, but their tactics will increase in violence as reality comes crashing through to them. Nancy Pelosi might *think* she'll win a 250+-seat majority, but she'll be out of a job one way or the other.
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McCain, easily. This is not 2004, the only election year in which the polls were anywhere close to the actual results - the MSM has lost all touch with reality over Barack Hussein Obama, and their polls were wrong in the primaries, and they're wrong now.
Drudge has a headline earlier that read "AP/Yahoo Poll: Obama 44%, McCain 42%" that was comprised of:
Interviews: 1,769 adults; 1,528 registered voters
873 Democrats; 650 Republicans
and this of registered voters, NOT likely voters. McGovern and Dukakis both counted on the "youth vote" and got nowhere. ACORN's fraud is rampant, but that's angering the American people, as is the way Barack Hussein Obama et al are attacking that plumber in Ohio for his tax troubles, while ignoring those of his sister-in-law and even his own campaign treasurer"
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/guess-who-else-has-tax-liens/
And his co-horts in the MSM have already invesitgated Joe the Plumber more than they have Bill Ayers. :whatever:
They've tried to make an issue out of Sarah Palin, that didn't even work with Dan Qualye. The Democrat Party has nominated a pig in a poke, but their tactics will increase in violence as reality comes crashing through to them. Nancy Pelosi might *think* she'll win a 250+-seat majority, but she'll be out of a job one way or the other.
I thnk people are getting pissed off about Acorn and shitting on Joe the Plumber is NOT the right thing to do for a party that is supposed to represent the little guy.
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I thnk people are getting pissed off about Acorn and shitting on Joe the Plumber is NOT the right thing to do for a party that is supposed to represent the little guy.
it does directly contradict their primary message, that they are "fighting" for the "little guy". and that's just a retarded message in general. the huge, cumbersome, and inefficient central government simply can't be relied upon to help the individual citizen. any non-stoned person should know that.
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I am making this thread a sticky.
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and bumping . . . .
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I'm probably as wrong as anything but my guess is McCain in a squeeker. Unless we get lucky and Joe Biden opens his yap and unleashes something even the MSM can't ignore .
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McCain in a nailbiter that won't be official for a couple days as the lawyers duke it out in Ohio, and then four years of whining about how he and his racist cronies stole the election.
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I voted McCain squeaker. I think the poll results are inflated.
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I'm probably as wrong as anything but my guess is McCain in a squeeker. Unless we get lucky and Joe Biden opens his yap and unleashes something even the MSM can't ignore .
he uncorked a pretty good one today, but I am sure the MSM can manage to ignore it for another couple of weeks.
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I dunno.
If the pessimists are right, and franksolich is wrong, I'll send $100 to Crazy Horse's Military Appreciation Day.
If franksolich is right, and the pessimists are wrong, I"ll send just $25.
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i voted obama squeaker. just feel like mccain has to concede too large a portion of the electorate, and add vote fraud onto that.
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Looks like there maybe a chance if Pennsylvainia and Ohio go McCains way along with Florida. I'm betting the polls are wrong and its within the margins in rerality otherwise Barry is wasting time and money for what, in states he supposedly is winning in?
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Guess I'm stocking up on Spam and ammo. :-)
Seriously, my calculations point to just that. The dreaded EC tie. Obama wins the usual blue states, bu with Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, and Pennsylvania. McCain wins the usual red states, but nabs New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia, and Florida.
Maybe if Jersey swings red (or Iowa for that matter), then he'll come up on top, IMO
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but cities are urban areas, jim, and we never do well there. in fact, we typically get blown out.
Yup, alot of public housing in those cities.
Those that recieve free medical care, and prescription drugs, while they lay on the rent to own sofa, living rent free in public housing, most likely won't vote for Senator McCain. On top of the fact they have plenty of time to be bussed to the polls and get a free meal after they vote...and heck with this early voting, they can use all those extra registrations from ACORN.
I think Obama will win, hopefully it's a close race....(pardon the pun)
(but what do I know)
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The majority of the Independents come to their senses in the last few days prior to election day and vote for McCain. He will win easily by taking PA, NJ, Fl and Ohio.
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The majority of the Independents come to their senses in the last few days prior to election day and vote for McCain. He will win easily by taking PA, NJ, Fl and Ohio.
new jersey? PA would be surprising enough, but NJ would be staggering. I hope you are right, of course.
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Even after this brouhuahua today, I still say the Big Zero, six states.
Vermont's one of them; the other five sort of keep shifting every day.
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I just don't know. I think it's going to be close. I wouldn't be suprised to see a virtual tie in the popular, but a hefty swing for one or the other in the electoral.
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My election day prediction... strokes, anneurysms, and a smattering of cardiac arrest. Two solid years of electioneering has a lot of people on edge. Some people may not make it past Nov. 4th.
Damn. I have to work the day after. I was hoping I could have the day off.
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My feelings on this keep changing. At this moment, It depends on how much fraud is allowed to stand - looking at everything right now, Obama in a squeaker.. That is unless people wake up and start looking at inherent problems with his entire campaign.
Tomorrow I may go back to McCain in a squeaker, or even McCain with a comfortable victory. Never though do I think that Obama is going to win by any more than the slimmest of margins.
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My feelings keep changing too. I guess I am trying to hold onto some HOPE that a majority of the American people will finally see through this Obama Sham and vote for McCain. It will be hard to win in Ohio with all of the fraud that is going on; and you know that the fraud exists in many states....the Dems are trying to cover all of their bases at once. I don't think I will be able to watch the election results...
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Could be one of those elections also where Obama wins the popular vote, but McCain wins the electoral vote. Oh, that'd be a big mess... I think worse so then in 2000.