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McCain Suspends Campaign to Help With Bailout
by Sharon Kehnemui Liss, FOXNews.com
Wednesday, September 24, 2008
BREAKING
John McCain asked the Presidential Debate Commission on Wednesday to postpone Friday’s scheduled debate with Barack Obama so that he can work on the financial crisis bailout plan now on Capitol Hill.
The Arizona Republican senator said he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with bailout negotiations. He urged Obama to do the same.
(too short to excerpt)
Link (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/)
** used thread subject from second dup for the merged thread; it was much more descriptive -- WE**
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That makes a good impression on me because it shows he'll put the job before getting elected.
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wow. he suspended the convention for Ike, and is suspending his whole campaign for the bail out bill . . . .
he is certainly putting all of his chips on this deal of the cards.
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:o :o :o
MCCAIN SUSPENDS CAMPAIGN TO FOCUS ON ECONOMY; WANTS DEBATE DELAY
Wed Sept 24 2008 14:58:02 ET
MCCAIN: America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.
Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns.This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward.I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.
It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration' proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.
Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.
The rest of this one is at Drudge--in red.
Also, . . .
McCain seeks to delay debate to focus on economy
Sep 24 02:58 PM US/Eastern
By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer Write a Comment
NEW YORK (AP) - Republican John McCain says he's directing his staff to work with Barack Obama's campaign and the debate commission to delay Friday's debate because of the economic crisis.
In a statement, McCain says he will stop campaigning after addressing former President Bill Clinton's Global Initiative session on Thursday and return to Washington to focus on the nation's financial problems.
McCain also said he wants President Bush to convene a leadership meeting in Washington. Both he and Obama would attend the session.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
That one is at:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93D8TDO0&show_article=1
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Leadership!
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Holy clankin brass ones!!!
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There is a poll over at Michelle Malkin's site about how it will be viewed. As of a couple of minutes ago, the response, "Great chess move--he outflanked Obama" is up with 63% of the total vote.
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Holy clankin brass ones!!!
Amen! Sounds/looks like he may actually MEAN his campaign message of "Country First".
This move is - if not the honest first impulses of someone who loves his country (which I strongly suspect it is) - damned near Rovian in it's execution. Lord Rove should be proud of his Padowan.
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Classic Judo.
He starts this and calls for bipartisan work on the issue and what exactly is Obama going to do?
Fekking Brilliant!!!
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Still digesting this and not sure how I feel about it yet. But the monkeys over at the DUmp are flinging poo around at breakneck speed in reaction to this move. That must mean McCain did something right. :lmao:
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I'm listing to Michael Medved and he just said that Obama's campaign manager is claiming it was Obama's idea first. :whatever:
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Still digesting this and not sure how I feel about it yet. But the monkeys over at the DUmp are flinging poo around at breakneck speed in reaction to this move. That must mean McCain did something right. :lmao:
H5 for Moral Clarity! ;)
(And I stealed your line to use on eyelids at TOS. :-))
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Still digesting this and not sure how I feel about it yet. But the monkeys over at the DUmp are flinging poo around at breakneck speed in reaction to this move. That must mean McCain did something right. :lmao:
H5 for Moral Clarity! ;)
(And I stealed your line to use on eyelids at TOS. :-))
Go for it! :-)
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merged the dups in E2008 and BN.
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I'm listing to Michael Medved and he just said that Obama's campaign manager is claiming it was Obama's idea first. :whatever:
How dare you even for one second think it wasn't! Everything is Obama's idea first, everything. Just ask him. :-)
I think this is a presidential move on McCain's part. Obama called McCain about a joint statement on the economy. I don't think suspending campaigning would be foremost in Obama's mind since he has to fundraise every day to pay for those Greek columns.
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The Obama camp wants to work on a reform/aid package, commence with the debate as scheduled on Friday, and then return to DC if a bill has yet to be sent to the floor for a vote.
Yeah, I'm sure these fragile credit markets will suspend all trading on the NYSE while you and your party counterparts continue with your inanities and roadblocking, jackass.
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he obviously means it. this is the equivalent of unilateral disarmament, though.
McCain taking ads down
Aiming to prove how serious he is about addressing the financial crisis, John McCain has instructed his staff to take all his campaign commercials off the air, a spokesman tells Politico.
"As John McCain said, now is the time to put partisanship aside and come together to do the work that the American people expect," said Tucker Bounds.
McCain aides are now in the process of contacting TV station across the country to get their ads taken down, according to Bounds.
Asked how long they would go dark, Bounds only said: "We're taking our guidance from Sen. McCain on that."
Link (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_taking_ads_down.html?showall)
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he obviously means it. this is the equivalent of unilateral disarmament, though.
McCain taking ads down
Aiming to prove how serious he is about addressing the financial crisis, John McCain has instructed his staff to take all his campaign commercials off the air, a spokesman tells Politico.
"As John McCain said, now is the time to put partisanship aside and come together to do the work that the American people expect," said Tucker Bounds.
McCain aides are now in the process of contacting TV station across the country to get their ads taken down, according to Bounds.
Asked how long they would go dark, Bounds only said: "We're taking our guidance from Sen. McCain on that."
Link (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_taking_ads_down.html?showall)
This is just damn brilliant. I see right now one ready to lead and another still gaging the mood of people first.
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he obviously means it. this is the equivalent of unilateral disarmament, though.
McCain taking ads down
Aiming to prove how serious he is about addressing the financial crisis, John McCain has instructed his staff to take all his campaign commercials off the air, a spokesman tells Politico.
"As John McCain said, now is the time to put partisanship aside and come together to do the work that the American people expect," said Tucker Bounds.
McCain aides are now in the process of contacting TV station across the country to get their ads taken down, according to Bounds.
Asked how long they would go dark, Bounds only said: "We're taking our guidance from Sen. McCain on that."
Link (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_taking_ads_down.html?showall)
This is just damn brilliant. I see right now one ready to lead and another still gaging the mood of people first.
he will need to poll this, and check in with the daily kos and george soros before he can take a position on this . . . :whatever:
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Unilateral disarmament it may be.
But every time an Obama ad runs in the next five weeks - especially since 77% of the man's ads have been deemed "negative" by those who measure sugh things - I can see teh Obamessiah taking a "HUGH" hit for it.
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the markets were certainly registering their concern:
(http://jtools.foxbusiness.com/gifbuilder/builder?cmd=intraday_free_2005&symbol=$i.dji&w=253&h=85&c0101=0xefe9ca&c0102=0x4ac1d9)
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and what exactly is Obama going to do?
Barakstar! will very shortly come down from The Mountainr and after having put it through focus groups opinion polls and and licking his finger and sticking it in the air...read to us from stone tablets exactly what he intends to do to "heal" the economy.
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Unilateral disarmament it may be.
But every time an Obama ad runs in the next five weeks - especially since 77% of the man's ads have been deemed "negative" by those who measure sugh things - I can see teh Obamessiah taking a "HUGH" hit for it.
it's a lose-lose for obama. if he continues to campaign, he is looks craven and opportunistic. if he submits to mccain's request, he looks like a follower, and mccain looks like the real leader.
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so will this debate go on Friday night?
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Hell, yeah, country first. Although Barack Hussein Obama would be worthless again even if he did go back to the Senate, and he probably won't. He's probably still waiting on the word from Soros.
But McCain, he is gutsy - this is another one of his bold and courageous, offensive moves that are sincere. Some cable news show said Barack Hussein Obama was supposed to release a statement on this at 4:45 EDT, better fire up that teleprompter.
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and coming from the guy that has been calling this the equivalent of "the great depression", he would be hard pressed to say that he wants to debate on friday night at the expense of solving this "crisis". The BarackStar! has painted himself into a corner with this alarmist rhetoric that he has been spewing all over the country, trying to scare people into voting for him.
and besides, a presidential debate on a friday night wrecks my happy hour plans. :-) I have been trying to figure out how I was going to handle that for a week. :uhsure:
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
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so will this debate go on Friday night?
I am reading the the obama campaign, the DNC, and the debate sponsors all want to go forward with the debate. mccain should tell them to debate THIS.
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OK. But, shouldn't he resign his Senate seat to focus on the campaign? I'd like both he and the Obamessiah to do so.
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
BUT ITS THE GREAT DEPRESSUN WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEE BEROCK OHBOMBA TOLD ME SOOO !111!11!11
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Hell, yeah, country first. Although Barack Hussein Obama would be worthless again even if he did go back to the Senate, and he probably won't. He's probably still waiting on the word from Soros.
But McCain, he is gutsy - this is another one of his bold and courageous, offensive moves that are sincere. Some cable news show said Barack Hussein Obama was supposed to release a statement on this at 4:45 EDT, better fire up that teleprompter.
ignore his first statement, and even most of his second statement. usually, he doesn't mean it until his third statement. :whatever:
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and what exactly is Obama going to do?
Barakstar! will very shortly come down from The Mountainr and after having put it through focus groups opinion polls and and licking his finger and sticking it in the air...read to us from stone tablets exactly what he intends to do to "heal" the economy.
Teh Obamessiah is speaking right now. He's contributing to global warming right now, with all of the hot air that's coming from his mouth.
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OK. But, shouldn't he resign his Senate seat to focus on the campaign? I'd like both he and the Obamessiah to do so.
um, I think he just pretty much quit the campaign to focus on his senate seat . . . so to speak.
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and coming from the guy that has been calling this the equivalent of "the great depression", he would be hard pressed to say that he wants to debate on friday night at the expense of solving this "crisis". The BarackStar! has painted himself into a corner with this alarmist rhetoric that he has been spewing all over the country, trying to scare people into voting for him.
and besides, a presidential debate on a friday night wrecks my happy hour plans. :-) I have been trying to figure out how I was going to handle that for a week. :uhsure:
A presidential debate drinking game? :-) Even if Obama ends up debating himself, I'm sure we could devise a crafty plan to incorporate booze into it.
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and coming from the guy that has been calling this the equivalent of "the great depression", he would be hard pressed to say that he wants to debate on friday night at the expense of solving this "crisis". The BarackStar! has painted himself into a corner with this alarmist rhetoric that he has been spewing all over the country, trying to scare people into voting for him.
and besides, a presidential debate on a friday night wrecks my happy hour plans. :-) I have been trying to figure out how I was going to handle that for a week. :uhsure:
A presidential debate drinking game? :-) Even if Obama ends up debating himself, I'm sure we could devise a crafty plan to incorporate booze into it.
How about a shot for every "uh" he utters.....I'm thinking everyone would be stinking drunk within the hour.
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Its a gutsy move, for sure, and the only way Obama can save any face is to play along. At least that how it is in the real world.
In MSM land it will be "McCain uses economy to back out of debate with Obama" < this is a certain guarantee - the question is how many people will buy it ?
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and coming from the guy that has been calling this the equivalent of "the great depression", he would be hard pressed to say that he wants to debate on friday night at the expense of solving this "crisis". The BarackStar! has painted himself into a corner with this alarmist rhetoric that he has been spewing all over the country, trying to scare people into voting for him.
and besides, a presidential debate on a friday night wrecks my happy hour plans. :-) I have been trying to figure out how I was going to handle that for a week. :uhsure:
A presidential debate drinking game? :-) Even if Obama ends up debating himself, I'm sure we could devise a crafty plan to incorporate booze into it.
How about a shot for every "uh" he utters.....I'm thinking everyone would be stinking drunk within the hour.
20 minutes, max.
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the risk for mccain is that this may turn out to be HIS bailout before it's all over with . . .
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Its a gutsy move, for sure, and the only way Obama can save any face is to play along. At least that how it is in the real world.
In MSM land it will be "McCain uses economy to back out of debate with Obama" < this is a certain guarantee - the question is how many people will buy it ?
no one that saw the saddleback throwdown, or remembers that it was The BarackStar! that nitially agreed, and then backed away, from mccain's "10 town halls" proposal.
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
Well, someone needs to tell Obama it takes 2 to debate..and if McCain calls it off...what's he gonna do? :fuelfire:
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
Well, someone needs to tell Obama it takes 2 to debate..and if McCain calls it off...what's he gonna do? :fuelfire:
Debate himself and give all of us fantastic and free entertainment on Friday night, I presume. I'm all for it. :evillaugh:
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Fox has a live video stream now of the Barackstar making his "statement"....of all the words that can be said about him, "empty suit" just fits so well.
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
Well, someone needs to tell Obama it takes 2 to debate..and if McCain calls it off...what's he gonna do? :fuelfire:
I can't imagine Obama would find it difficult to take two diferent positions on any given topic. He can easily debate himself.
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He seems to be giving this speech from a tank :lmao:
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This is actually pretty comical ifyou take away the seriousness of the economy. McCain has Barrack right where he wants him. Barrack is backed up into the "reactionary" mode. He's no longer the leader.
Those years McCain spent with his captors probably taught him some very valuable tools on how to shake up your opponent. Have to give it to the old geezer...he's got some skillz.
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Looks like Brock isn't going to let a little thing like a financial crisis get int he way of his campaign:
A senior Obama campaign official told FOX News that Obama still plans to go forward with Friday’s debate. Obama is expected to issue a statement shortly.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-to-help-with-bailout/
Well, someone needs to tell Obama it takes 2 to debate..and if McCain calls it off...what's he gonna do? :fuelfire:
masturdebate?
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Someone please convince me that I am being paranoid. I have a really bad feeling about the next week or so. I worry with the Russian military in Venezula, China is involved now too. North Korea just kicked out the UN nuke guys. Maybe it is just the freaking in me but I feel a need to stock more ammo and food all of the sudden.
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Someone please convince me that I am being paranoid. I have a really bad feeling about the next week or so. I worry with the Russian military in Venezula, China is involved now too. North Korea just kicked out the UN nuke guys. Maybe it is just the freaking in me but I feel a need to stock more ammo and food all of the sudden.
In other words, "the world is going to hell in a handbasket"...
Hey now...don't start spreading that kind of hysteria....although I kinda understand why you feel that way. I'm usually pretty good in stocking up on water and non-perishables due to hurricane season here in Floriduh.
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Cynical as this may sound, a foriegn crisis would just help McCain.
He seems to be giving this speech from a tank :lmao:
Apparently, Barack Hussein Obama wants the debate to go forward. I don't know. He's confusing the hell out of everybody at Ace:
McCain Suspends Campaigning to Deal With Financial Crisis; Update: Obama Claims Idea to Suspend Was His First, But Also Says He's Not Suspending.. What?
:mental:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/274139.php
Just let him eat his waffle, okay? ::)
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Is he trying to speak without a teleprompter? :evillaugh:
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Apparently, Barack Hussein Obama wants the debate to go forward. I don't know. He's confusing the hell out of everybody at Ace:
McCain Suspends Campaigning to Deal With Financial Crisis; Update: Obama Claims Idea to Suspend Was His First, But Also Says He's Not Suspending.. What?
:mental:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/274139.php
It makes perfect sense. Obama is a man of ideas. He has ideas. He shouldn't be expected to do anything. It's all about the ideas.
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Someone please convince me that I am being paranoid. I have a really bad feeling about the next week or so. I worry with the Russian military in Venezula, China is involved now too. North Korea just kicked out the UN nuke guys. Maybe it is just the freaking in me but I feel a need to stock more ammo and food all of the sudden.
Breathe, Mama. Rush was talking about the media pushing all of these "we are doomed" articles on us because they want us down. They want us afraid. They want us to turn to the government for help. They don't want us "clinging to God and guns." They want us to put them down and say, "We're scared! Help us, Mighty Government."
When talking about the recession, Rush said, "If they want to have a recession, don't participate." This totally resonated with me. It's about attitude and not letting the MSM tell you what your attitude should look like.
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Is he trying to speak without a teleprompter? :evillaugh:
How could you tell? :lmao:
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Totally agree with Rush's statement aobut not participating in a recession! I'm seeing lots of people panicing right now and that's really the last thing we need to do.
Brilliant move by McCain. :-)
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Unilateral disarmament it may be.
But every time an Obama ad runs in the next five weeks - especially since 77% of the man's ads have been deemed "negative" by those who measure sugh things - I can see teh Obamessiah taking a "HUGH" hit for it.
it's a lose-lose for obama. if he continues to campaign, he is looks craven and opportunistic. if he submits to mccain's request, he looks like a follower, and mccain looks like the real leader.
Amen Brah!
McCain calling for the President to ask for a bi-partisan seinior leadership meeting was absolutely outta the park BRILLIANT!!!
Obama is going to look like a total self involved tool if he ignores it because McCain has a real bully pulpit framing this as AMERICAS problem rather than a Dem or Rep one!
And if he is in Washington "working" on the most critical issue to come down the pike in ages then Obama is going to look like a jerk if he tries to score points over a skipped debate.
This is SOOOOOOO freaking cool!
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Bill Sammon was just on FNC with Martha MacCallum and he said that Obama just may have gotten the upper hand in this. Mama, I'm with you on the additional guns and ammo. One of my wife's co-workers called while the Obamessiah was speaking, and she (the co-worker) is married to a mortgage broker. Said mortgage broker was closing on a property with a client today, when the mortgage bank just up and went bankrupt, an hour or two before the closing was to happen. He had to scramble to another broker quickly, but he got it done. Said co-worker told my wife that she wanted to learn how to shoot a gun . . . soon.
Don't really know what all this means, but . . . just an ancedote.
Personally, I think that Obama's for "change," all right--the "change" that morphs him into an old-style politician.
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Hell, yeah, country first. Although Barack Hussein Obama would be worthless again even if he did go back to the Senate, and he probably won't. He's probably still waiting on the word from Soros.
But McCain, he is gutsy - this is another one of his bold and courageous, offensive moves that are sincere. Some cable news show said Barack Hussein Obama was supposed to release a statement on this at 4:45 EDT, better fire up that teleprompter.
Whats REALLY funny is that McCain will go back as a senior Senate member to do this and Barry will go back as a first year tadpole with one worthless committee chair on an unrelated subject. :)
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As an independant, McCain just ended any doubts I had about him. He has earned my vote.
This was really a 'King Solomon' moment, and Obama chose to cut the Baby in two.
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If it really is the great depression, then he is placing his personal fortunes above the well being of the country if he does anything BUT follow mccain's lead . . . But the he is, well FOLLOWING mccain's LEAD.
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As an independant, McCain just ended any doubts I had about him. He has earned my vote.
This was really a 'King Solomon' moment, and Obama chose to cut the Baby in two.
:clap: Welcome to the dark side... :-)
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If it really is the great depression, then he is placing his personal fortunes above the well being of the country if he does anything BUT follow mccain's lead . . . But the he is, well FOLLOWING mccain's LEAD.
Exactly!
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As an independant, McCain just ended any doubts I had about him. He has earned my vote.
This was really a 'King Solomon' moment, and Obama chose to cut the Baby in two.
:clap: Welcome to the dark side... :-)
I was pretty much decided that way anyways... McCain was just not high on my primary list. Palin is probably the only candidate that I am excited about now.
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I might point out rather cynically also that by "Going Dark" with his campaign ads he puts the onus on Barack for making political hyjinks out of a national crisis by running HIS ads AND... Saves a week or two in advertising expenses that his campaign would normally be out of pocket on as a "War Chest" closer to the elections.
And the 527's can be the ones that run the ads pointing out what a self involved weasel BO is for not following suit.
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no one that saw the saddleback throwdown, or remembers that it was The BarackStar! that nitially agreed, and then backed away, from mccain's "10 town halls" proposal.
Absolutely true - but we can guarantee that the Obamedia will do everything to deny the existence of either of these facts.
McCain has been waiting to debate Obama for months. We all know it - but now it seems the importance of keeping <<this>> debate on schedule has become the most important thing to Obama ever. Funny that...
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unfortunately, both houses of congress are run by petulant teenagers.
Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol
A Democrat tells ABC News that, in a phone call late this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that it would NOT be helpful for him to come back to Washington, D.C., to work on the Wall Street bailout bill.
McCain this afternoon suspended his campaign and said he would skip the first presidential debate in order to return to Capitol Hill to work on the log-jammed Bush administration legislation, which, as of Wednesday afternoon, was in peril.
When contacted, the McCain campaign did not have any comment.
McCain had phoned Reid to ask about the prospects of him, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and others to sit down and work together on hammering out a bipartisan proposal.
"Sorry," Reid said to him, a Democrat close to Reid says.
Reid then read McCain the statement he had just put out: "This is a critical time for our country," says the Reid statement. "While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Sen. Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op. If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now.â€
A source close to Reid said McCain didn't have much to say after that. Reid, the source says, thinks McCain's maneuver is a gimmick born from bad poll numbers and the fact that "debate prep must not be going very well."
Link (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/reid-to-mccain.html)
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Brilliant, brilliant move!
I can't wait to see how the Obama camp spins his refusal to go back to DC.
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Absolutely true - but we can guarantee that the Obamedia will do everything to deny the existence of either of these facts.
McCain has been waiting to debate Obama for months. We all know it - but now it seems the importance of keeping <<this>> debate on schedule has become the most important thing to Obama ever. Funny that...
LOL, in the HRC forum, someone is all over this one:
Obama tried to steal McCain's thunder by stretching the truth with the following statement:
Quote:
FROM SPOX BILL BURTON/obama camp
At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal.
At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obamas call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details.
THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN SAYS NOT QUITE TRUE:
Quote:
Per Brian Rogers/McCain camp:
Senator Obama phoned Senator McCain at 8:30 am this morning but did not reach him. The topic of Senator Obamas call to Senator McCain was never discussed. Senator McCain was meeting with economic advisers and talking to leaders in Congress throughout the day prior to calling Senator Obama. At 2:30 pm, Senator McCain phoned Senator Obama and expressed deep concern that the plan on the table would not pass as it currently stands. He asked Senator Obama to join him in returning to Washington to lead a bipartisan effort to solve this problem
UPDATE--IT GETS EVEN BETTER - Obama didn't know what to do, so he called Dick Durbin last night who told him the debate was more important, and that the call actually happened at 9am, not 8:30am. Durbin also says its better to meet behind closed doors. Durbin just said the following on the Senate floor.
then she (?) goes on to quote from some Congressional blogger.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=31768
Sou8nds like even those Democrats have gotten Barack Hussein Obama's number.
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Brilliant, brilliant move!
I can't wait to see how the Obama camp spins his refusal to go back to DC.
the cable news outlets are immediately following the story about mccain suspending his campaign (and obama balking at doing so) with the latest poll numbers. the inference is obvious.
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Harry Reid's problem is simple enough to solve. Pass a bill before McCain gets there, and he will have no need to come.
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HAHA bawhahaha. I'm listening to Hugh Huwett and he said he just found out from McCain's spokesman that McCain hasn't even spoken with Obama today. :rotf:
Edited to add: I might have heard that wrong, he might of said that Obama didn't call McCain or something like that.
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You know it's a bad day for Barakstar! when even Pat Buchannan says what McCain is doing is a brilliant move.
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Country first.
Keep the change. :cheersmate:
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unfortunately, both houses of congress are run by petulant teenagers.
Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol
A Democrat tells ABC News that, in a phone call late this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that it would NOT be helpful for him to come back to Washington, D.C., to work on the Wall Street bailout bill.
McCain this afternoon suspended his campaign and said he would skip the first presidential debate in order to return to Capitol Hill to work on the log-jammed Bush administration legislation, which, as of Wednesday afternoon, was in peril.
When contacted, the McCain campaign did not have any comment.
McCain had phoned Reid to ask about the prospects of him, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and others to sit down and work together on hammering out a bipartisan proposal.
"Sorry," Reid said to him, a Democrat close to Reid says.
Reid then read McCain the statement he had just put out: "This is a critical time for our country," says the Reid statement. "While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Sen. Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op. If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now.â€
A source close to Reid said McCain didn't have much to say after that. Reid, the source says, thinks McCain's maneuver is a gimmick born from bad poll numbers and the fact that "debate prep must not be going very well."
Link (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/reid-to-mccain.html)
Yet just yesterday Reid said they needed McCain to vote cause it probably couldn't pass without it.......................................what a dumbass just playing politics
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"While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Sen. Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy.
Hey Harry:
:bird: you, you :censored:
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Has anyone gauged the public's response to this suspension yet? The moonbats are going berzerk. I was stunned at first, but now I think it's a brilliant move.
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Has anyone gauged the public's response to this suspension yet? The moonbats are going berzerk. I was stunned at first, but now I think it's a brilliant move.
I was leaving work and had Sean on at 3pm. He spoke very briefly about the suspension and went straight to the press confrence.
All I could say was ****ing brilliant. The O would not follow suit......................well unless tomorrow the polls show how much he screwed the lipsticked pig.
Obama to me now comes off as selfish and petty. Putting himself ahead of the country (really more so that I thought before of his communist ass). I guess Obama thinks the other 115 Senators will take care of this if he's the only one missing.................I mean the rethuglicans only have 48 Senators out of 116
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wow. he suspended the convention for Ike, and is suspending his whole campaign for the bail out bill . . . .
he is certainly putting all of his chips on this deal of the cards.
I'm just catching up here with the news, but yeah, he is being a bit dramatic about this dont ya think?
Is he going to suspend talking to the American people in times of crisis? I dont know.. I want the guy to be able to do more than a few things at once. North Korea is doing something curious today - McCain cant run into his office to deal with single situations at a time.
BUT, having said all that. This is our economy at stake right now.. whether its real or not. The Congress seems to believe its a life or death situation. But I'm still not convinced it is..
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Unilateral disarmament it may be.
But every time an Obama ad runs in the next five weeks - especially since 77% of the man's ads have been deemed "negative" by those who measure sugh things - I can see teh Obamessiah taking a "HUGH" hit for it.
it's a lose-lose for obama. if he continues to campaign, he is looks craven and opportunistic. if he submits to mccain's request, he looks like a follower, and mccain looks like the real leader.
ok, now thats just brilliant.
good job McCain :cheersmate:
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it's a lose-lose for obama. if he continues to campaign, he is looks craven and opportunistic. if he submits to mccain's request, he looks like a follower, and mccain looks like the real leader.
That was the impression I got as well. I saw McCain make his announcement live on Fox. By the time I got back from lunch, Barry was just catching up.
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unfortunately, both houses of congress are run by petulant teenagers.
Reid to McCain: Don't Come Back to Capitol
A Democrat tells ABC News that, in a phone call late this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that it would NOT be helpful for him to come back to Washington, D.C., to work on the Wall Street bailout bill.
McCain this afternoon suspended his campaign and said he would skip the first presidential debate in order to return to Capitol Hill to work on the log-jammed Bush administration legislation, which, as of Wednesday afternoon, was in peril.
When contacted, the McCain campaign did not have any comment.
McCain had phoned Reid to ask about the prospects of him, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and others to sit down and work together on hammering out a bipartisan proposal.
"Sorry," Reid said to him, a Democrat close to Reid says.
Reid then read McCain the statement he had just put out: "This is a critical time for our country," says the Reid statement. "While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Sen. Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op. If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now.â€
A source close to Reid said McCain didn't have much to say after that. Reid, the source says, thinks McCain's maneuver is a gimmick born from bad poll numbers and the fact that "debate prep must not be going very well."
Link (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/reid-to-mccain.html)
Yet just yesterday Reid said they needed McCain to vote cause it probably couldn't pass without it.......................................what a dumbass just playing politics
thats what I read on CNN earlier today: this thing wouldnt pass without McCain agreeing to it, and the rest of the GOPers would fall in line to get it passed. otherwise, the Dems know they cant pass it alone.
Harry Reid is the one grandstanding here. McCain's primary job right now is in the Senate.. and that is every bit as important as whatever Reid is doing. But Reid never misses a chance to sideswipe his 'friends' in the Senate..
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it's a lose-lose for obama. if he continues to campaign, he is looks craven and opportunistic. if he submits to mccain's request, he looks like a follower, and mccain looks like the real leader.
That was the impression I got as well. I saw McCain make his announcement live on Fox. By the time I got back from lunch, Barry was just catching up.
Bu-bu-but the messi-uh called first! No fairsies!!
;)
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I have a feeling this is what the media spin-job in Barry's favor is going to look like...
Obama says that "there are times for politics and there are times to rise above politics and do what’s right," but now is not the time to cancel the debate. "This is exactly the time when people need to hear from the candidates." And: "Part of the president’s job is to deal with more than one thing at once. In my mind it’s more important than ever."
I suppose Obama couldn't very well follow McCain's lead. In fact, if McCain had really been serious about this, he should have worked it out with Obama in private, so that the two men could make a joint announcement. McCain went for political theatrics, and I guess he can use it against Obama now, which was probably the point, but Obama's reaction was so predictable that McCain's show of statesmanship was entirely bogus, so I will be impervious to that rhetoric.
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-am-calling-on-president-to-convene.html
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I'm impressed with what McCain is doing.
Obama's response.....Washington can call if they need us...that's what we have big airplanes.... with our slogans painted on them....for.
Now...I'm not really sure what was the point of mentioning the slogans....but considering there's a fuel crisis going on.....many of us in the south are having problems finding gas....I thought it was a rather insensitive remark. As some on said....obviously he didn't have his teleprompter.
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Barry hauled in $60 million last month. Fuel shortages are for the little people.
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Katie Couric announced just before the President started speaking that the President has invited McCain, Obama and others to the White House tomorrow to discuss the bailout.
Guess Obama is being asked to come back to Washington.
Will he go?
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I get nervous any time I hear President Bush speak. Whenever he does, I know it's going to cost money. I'm sorry, but more government is not the answer. De-securitizing mortgages and amending the CRA to pre-Clinton status is about all Congress needs to do.
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html
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Katie Couric announced just before the President started speaking that the President has invited McCain, Obama and others to the White House tomorrow to discuss the bailout.
Guess Obama is being asked to come back to Washington.
Will he go?
According to this (http://www.wnbc.com/news/17551484/detail.html), he will now:
WASHINGTON -- With extraordinary stakes on the line, President Bush has invited both presidential candidates and the leaders of the House and Senate to the White House on Thursday in hopes of securing a bill to rescue the economy.
Bush took the unusual step Wednesday night of calling Democratic Sen. Barack Obama directly to invite him to the meeting, White House press secretary Dana Perino said. An Obama spokesman said the senator would attend. The White House has also invited Republican Sen. John McCain.
Because President Bush asked him to???
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This is gonna leave a mark!
Teh ooooobama needs to realize that the American people value their livelihood above partisan politics. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a story about the "next great depression". The economy issue isn't going to go away and this will come back to bite him in Nov.
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Looks like Friday's debate is on hold whether Obama wants it to be or not.
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Harry Reid's problem is simple enough to solve. Pass a bill before McCain gets there, and he will have no need to come.
harry was willing to allow the economy to crash and burn just so he could stand in his chair and scream like a two year old,
blame bush, and hopefully that would push obama across the finish line.
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bush has called a meeting of congressional leadership, including mccain and obama, tomorrow in DC. NOW obama will come. I guess he needed an invitation. :whatever:
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^ditto. major eyeroll. Now teh Ooooobama has some cover (at least to his worshippers) because he can't very well turn down an invitation from the sitting president!
I'm sure he'll make some condesending remarks and get his Bush digs in after tomorrow too. And, he'll probably disagree with whatever the conservatives have to offer and say that his ideas were shot down. You know how those McBush meanies are (more eyerolling).
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bush has called a meeting of congressional leadership, including mccain and obama, tomorrow in DC. NOW obama will come. I guess he needed an invitation. :whatever:
Barack Hussein Obama has gotten himself into another lose/lose situation. If he votes for the bailout, he'll be siding with his friends on a very unpopular issue. If he votes against it, it'll anger his base and make him look Bush's little bitch again. I bet he wishes he could vote "present".
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bush has called a meeting of congressional leadership, including mccain and obama, tomorrow in DC. NOW obama will come. I guess he needed an invitation. :whatever:
Barack Hussein Obama has gotten himself into another lose/lose situation. If he votes for the bailout, he'll be siding with his friends on a very unpopular issue. If he votes against it, it'll anger his base and make him look Bush's little bitch again. I bet he wishes he could vote "present".
AND he loses the "great depression" issue on the campaign trail if they find a "fix". and if they don't, it's his fault. he got badly outflanked by mccain and the white house tonight.
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Heh. I keep hearing that youtube snippet of him stammering and saying, now, now, wait a minute, hold on, hold on, um, um, wait a minute, hold on, etc.... :-)
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Will he actually vote....................that's the question.
He has already been made out as the partisan, uncaring block Then again McCain became a hero
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bush has called a meeting of congressional leadership, including mccain and obama, tomorrow in DC. NOW obama will come. I guess he needed an invitation. :whatever:
Barack Hussein Obama has gotten himself into another lose/lose situation. If he votes for the bailout, he'll be siding with his friends on a very unpopular issue. If he votes against it, it'll anger his base and make him look Bush's little bitch again. I bet he wishes he could vote "present".
AND he loses the "great depression" issue on the campaign trail if they find a "fix". and if they don't, it's his fault. he got badly outflanked by mccain and the white house tonight.
He really is politically tone deaf. If the MSM didn't need someone to eliminate the hated clinton machine, the messi-uh would still be opening supermarkets in Chicago's South side.
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Will he actually vote....................that's the question.
He has already been made out as the partisan, uncaring block Then again McCain became a hero
he may have to be retrained. he didn't vote that many times to begin with, and it's been a hell of a long time since he last voted. maybe the saxby chambliss (or someone) will trick him into voting for something else.
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I just saw a McCain ad (VA) -- so I guess all plugs are not pulled.
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I just saw a McCain ad (VA) -- so I guess all plugs are not pulled.
I am guessing it was too late to pull back all of the media buys . . .
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Obama's response:
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time the American people need to hear from the person who in approximately 40 days will be responsible with dealing with this mess ... What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics ... Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time. It’s not necessary for us to think that we can do only one thing, and suspend everything else."
This totally sucks for him now....The President asked him to go to Congress....the libtards will love it if you shunned the President.
Unfortunately for Barrack, he can't take the ball and go home because McCain didn't play it his way.. :-)
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Obama's response:
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time the American people need to hear from the person who in approximately 40 days will be responsible with dealing with this mess ... What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics ... Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time. It’s not necessary for us to think that we can do only one thing, and suspend everything else."
This totally sucks for him now....The President asked him to go to Congress....the libtards will love it if you shunned the President.
Unfortunately for Barrack, he can't take the ball and go home because McCain didn't play it his way.. :-)
as far as his response goes, I think Barack shoulda waited . . . . :-)
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The kid screwed the pooch again.
I cannot understand why he is so anxious to have his ass handed to him in the debate.
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I wish McCain would come out and say, in approx. 40 days we will be electing someone to the highest office in the land. Now is not the time to elect an untested rookie with less than a year of Senate experience under his belt. America needs someone steady and experienced.......Yeah, I can dream.
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The kid screwed the pooch again.
I cannot understand why he is so anxious to have his ass handed to him in the debate.
he wanted the foreign policy debate to be as far away from election day as possible. get the carnage out of the way early, so to speak.
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I wish McCain would come out and say, in approx. 40 days we will be electing someone to the highest office in the land. Now is not the time to elect an untested rookie with less than a year of Senate experience under his belt. America needs someone steady and experienced.......Yeah, I can dream.
he even screwed that up . . . the election is in 40 days. the inauguration is in 120 days (or so) on january 20th. it isn't the new president's "mess" until he actually takes office. The BarackStar! gets an F in civics . . . again.
sucks to be him. :-)
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The kid screwed the pooch again.
I cannot understand why he is so anxious to have his ass handed to him in the debate.
he wanted the foreign policy debate to be as far away from election day as possible. get the carnage out of the way early, so to speak.
Makes sense.
But imagine getting your ass kicked when your opponent, the grownup, has "been working" while you've been cramming and drinking in sunny FLA !
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I wish McCain would come out and say, in approx. 40 days we will be electing someone to the highest office in the land. Now is not the time to elect an untested rookie with less than a year of Senate experience under his belt. America needs someone steady and experienced.......Yeah, I can dream.
he even screwed that up . . . the election is in 40 days. the inauguration is in 120 days (or so) on january 20th. it isn't the new president's "mess" until he actually takes office. The BarackStar! gets an F in civics . . . again.
sucks to be him. :-)
Ha Ha! [inserts that kid from The Simpsons]
I've always wondered what goes on with the president-elect between Nov and Jan. I'm sure there is plenty of "here's your office, here's where we keep the photocopier, you have to dial 9 to get an outside line..." That's tongue in cheek, but I have always wanted to know.....
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I wish McCain would come out and say, in approx. 40 days we will be electing someone to the highest office in the land. Now is not the time to elect an untested rookie with less than a year of Senate experience under his belt. America needs someone steady and experienced.......Yeah, I can dream.
he even screwed that up . . . the election is in 40 days. the inauguration is in 120 days (or so) on january 20th. it isn't the new president's "mess" until he actually takes office. The BarackStar! gets an F in civics . . . again.
sucks to be him. :-)
Ha Ha! [inserts that kid from The Simpsons]
I've always wondered what goes on with the president-elect between Nov and Jan. I'm sure there is plenty of "here's your office, here's where we keep the photocopier, you have to dial 9 to get an outside line..." That's tongue in cheek, but I have always wanted to know.....
. . . and when GWB took office, there were also comments about, "no, I have no idea what happened to the carpet right there". :uhsure:
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The kid screwed the pooch again.
I cannot understand why he is so anxious to have his ass handed to him in the debate.
he wanted the foreign policy debate to be as far away from election day as possible. get the carnage out of the way early, so to speak.
Makes sense.
But imagine getting your ass kicked when your opponent, the grownup, has "been working" while you've been cramming and drinking in sunny FLA !
yeah, the fact that he all but stopped campaigning (but not fund raising) so he could study for the debate is a little ridiculous in the first place.
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I wish McCain would come out and say, in approx. 40 days we will be electing someone to the highest office in the land. Now is not the time to elect an untested rookie with less than a year of Senate experience under his belt. America needs someone steady and experienced.......Yeah, I can dream.
he even screwed that up . . . the election is in 40 days. the inauguration is in 120 days (or so) on january 20th. it isn't the new president's "mess" until he actually takes office. The BarackStar! gets an F in civics . . . again.
sucks to be him. :-)
Ha Ha! [inserts that kid from The Simpsons]
I've always wondered what goes on with the president-elect between Nov and Jan. I'm sure there is plenty of "here's your office, here's where we keep the photocopier, you have to dial 9 to get an outside line..." That's tongue in cheek, but I have always wanted to know.....
Briefings briefings and more briefings.
There is a lot to learn. And the real trick is that you have to be able to discern BS from fact because every one of those guys has an agenda. Thats why executive experience is so vital.
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The kid screwed the pooch again.
I cannot understand why he is so anxious to have his ass handed to him in the debate.
he wanted the foreign policy debate to be as far away from election day as possible. get the carnage out of the way early, so to speak.
Makes sense.
But imagine getting your ass kicked when your opponent, the grownup, has "been working" while you've been cramming and drinking in sunny FLA !
yeah, the fact that he all but stopped campaigning (but not fund raising) so he could study for the debate is a little ridiculous in the first place.
i saw a quote somewhere of Biden saying his prep work for the VP debates had been 'hard' ... these two buffoons just cant seem to catch a break the past few weeks.. :popcorn:
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let's see now. mccain has shamed obama into going to iraq, and now he has pretty much shamed him into doing his job regarding the (using his words) "biggest financial crisis since the great depression". The BarackStar! should go ahead and put john mccain on his staff.
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let's see now. mccain has shamed obama into going to iraq, and now he has pretty much shamed him into doing his job regarding the (using his words) "biggest financial crisis since the great depression". The BarackStar! should go ahead and put john mccain on his staff.
Reminds me of President Bush. The Dems have cowed to him on everything he wanted over the last seven years.
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let's see now. mccain has shamed obama into going to iraq, and now he has pretty much shamed him into doing his job regarding the (using his words) "biggest financial crisis since the great depression". The BarackStar! should go ahead and put john mccain on his staff.
Reminds me of President Bush. The Dems have cowed to him on everything he wanted over the last seven years.
certainly the last two. I think the dems thought that control of congress meant something besides "being george's biiiiaatch". :-)
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According to this (http://www.wnbc.com/news/17551484/detail.html), he will now:
WASHINGTON -- With extraordinary stakes on the line, President Bush has invited both presidential candidates and the leaders of the House and Senate to the White House on Thursday in hopes of securing a bill to rescue the economy.
Bush took the unusual step Wednesday night of calling Democratic Sen. Barack Obama directly to invite him to the meeting, White House press secretary Dana Perino said. An Obama spokesman said the senator would attend. The White House has also invited Republican Sen. John McCain.
This is what infuriates me about the news media. This was news three hours ago, and they're still running Obama's response to McCain's announcement that happened 12 hours ago. And they'll keep running it all weekend to make it look like Obama was the one to come up with the idea first.
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John McCain was an afterthought according to that article.... :whatever:
Stupid media will get schooled on Election Day. Again.
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This is what infuriates me about the news media. This was news three hours ago, and they're still running Obama's response to McCain's announcement that happened 12 hours ago. And they'll keep running it all weekend to make it look like Obama was the one to come up with the idea first.
Yeah God forbid they actually tell the truth. According to the WSJ it seems that Obama was hoping McCain would back their play....only John had other ideas:
But several paragraphs down in the AP report, we learn that McCain was responding to a suggestion from Obama:
The Obama campaign said Obama had called McCain around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday to propose that they issue a joint statement in support of a package to help fix the economy as soon as possible. McCain called back six hours later and agreed to the idea of the statement, the Obama campaign said. McCain's statement was issued to the media a few minutes later.
What is going on here? This report from the Washington Post Web site, which appeared shortly before noon, may give a clue:
Sen. John McCain said this morning that he has not assured Democratic leaders of his support for the financial bailout package, disputing comments by Majority Leader Harry Reid that he had.
Reid told reporters Tuesday that, in a private conversation Monday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson assured Reid that McCain would eventually back the bailout legislation, which Reid has set as a precondition for approving the bill to tone down the partisan atmosphere surrounding the controversial issue. "I've got some good news," said Reid, adding that it "appears" McCain would back the package.
Before a meeting of his economic brain-trust, McCain denied that report.
Told of Reid's comment that the GOP nominee would vote for the plan put forth by Paulson, McCain said, "I did not say that."
Senior McCain adviser Mark Salter told reporters later that "he hasn't said that to Paulson or to Reid or to anybody else. He hasn't said that to me."
From Obama's communication to McCain, and from Reid's statement that McCain would back the bailout, it sounds as though the Democrats were counting on McCain to provide political cover for them. "Apparently knowing that," reader Tom Silvestri writes, "McCain decided to expand that reality from an inside-the-Beltway thing to an on-the-national-stage thing, just like he did with the invasion of Georgia and the hurricane on the eve of the Republican Convention":
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122226574427971151.html
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John McCain was an afterthought according to that article.... :whatever:
Stupid media will get schooled on Election Day. Again.
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