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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on July 25, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219234801
FINALLY! A real ballistics expert weighs in. This should put this whole debate to rest.
imanamerican63 (14,040 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:15 AM
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If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
His ear would have been a dangling mess and moreover he wouldn’t be alive! Period! The guy behind him was killed! The only logical explanation for the blood was flying glass!
I know what damage that caliber of bullet can do. I was in a field artillery company in the Army. I drove a truck yes, but I move ammunition around to the different areas of Ft Benning, GA. I saw the damage done to targets with only one shot!
The only thing that might have happened for Trump to have a bloody ear? When they Secret Service agents jumped on him? They could have cut his ear? End of story!
Yes, he was shot at and they right and media are talking about is how the bully was shot!
Damn. I didn't realize they shot Trump with a 105mm!! Holy hell.
:rotf:
KC
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A bullet of that caliber?
Are we back into exploding hogs, lungs being blown out and penetrating an engine block BS again?
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Needs more cinder blocks and chicken wire.
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I guess DU-folk just can't handle the reality that Trump survived a very real assassination attempt. Admitting that tends to lead to their 9+ years of demonizing Trump inspiring the attempt, I guess, something they dare not admit, especially to themselves.
5.56 mm is a high velocity load and the human ear is pretty thin (1/4"? a bit less?). I think Trump's injury is not inconsistent with those basics. Maybe a wild hog trapper could rig up a test with a dead hog and a 5.56 mm caliber rifle at 130 yards (i.e. a relatively realistic, chicken-wire-free, test).
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I never knew the strength of my targets.
A bullet of that caliber 5.56, 62gr at 100 yards using red dot (Holosun 510C)
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I never knew the strength of my targets.
A bullet of that caliber 5.56, 62gr at 100 yards using red dot (Holosun 510C)
But they would still explode a pig in the DUniverse.
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A bullet didn't hit him, he was grazed by a bullet. Happens all the time.
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Needs more cinder blocks and chicken wire.
:popcorn: :-) :rotf: :cheersmate:
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What flying glass? :o
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The only logical explanation for the blood was flying glass!
Flying glass from what? What and where is the source of that "flying glass"?
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Ahh, a graduate of the maloney-mccarthy school of firearm education weighs in...
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Flying glass from what? What and where is the source of that "flying glass"?
Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.
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Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.
This article has a slide show of pix from that day (ignore the moronic hoplophobic article), https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/criminologist-shooting-at-trump-rally-yet-another-reason-to-focus-on-assault-weapons/ar-BB1qCQhc#image=4 . The slides show two things: 1. Trump had two teleprompters that day; 2. after Trump was shot, both teleprompters were intact.
This illustrates why facts are Reich-Wing! :-) :tongue:
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Let’s look at the facts,
1. He drove a truck
2. He moved ammunition around ft. Bennington Ga. ( I hope he didn’t hurt himself)
3. A man was killed.
4. 2 others were seriously injured. (By bullets)
5. The assassin allegedly fired 8 rounds.
6. Nothing glass was broken in the vicinity.
So,my logical conclusion is you are a mental midget that cannot comprehend truth or reality and should keep your stupid opinions to yourself. :thatsright: :mental: :loser: :loser: :loser:
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219234801
FINALLY! A real ballistics expert weighs in. This should put this whole debate to rest.
Damn. I didn't realize they shot Trump with a 105mm!! Holy hell.
:rotf:
KC
No way that clown served in the Army. I served in the Infantry and saw just as many paper targets get hit. It tells you nothing about what a bullet will do to a human body, nor will any other object shot on a rifle range. Ballistic gelatin on the other hand will show a wound channel and possibly still have the bullet in the gel depending on the bullet and the range it was fired from. Look at the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJA9xuzAFE&t=14s
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Siwsan (26,755 posts)
5. My therapist and I discussed this, yesterday.
Reply to imanamerican63 (Original post)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:27 AM
He's a bit of a gun aficionado and has serious doubts about the cause of the convicted felon's ear boo boo. He agrees that something like a glass shard is the likely cause. of the ear abrasion.
I'd be curious to hear that conversation.
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Siwsan (26,755 posts)
5. My therapist and I discussed this, yesterday.
Reply to imanamerican63 (Original post)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:27 AM
He's a bit of a gun aficionado and has serious doubts about the cause of the convicted felon's ear boo boo. He agrees that something like a glass shard is the likely cause. of the ear abrasion.
Let me guess. This "therapist" AKA your dealer is the one who prescribed "medical MJ" right?
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This USA Today article, published and updated before Assassination-Denialism became a Dem-Prog-MSM thing, has an annotated aerial pic of the area where the shooter, the stage, and the rally crowd were relative too each other, https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/07/14/trump-shooting-what-happened/74399097007/ . It demonstrates several things:
1. Had the shooter been aiming at the rally crowd to produce mass casualties, Trump would not have been hit. At. All.
2. Had the shooter been aiming at the Trump supporters on stage, for ???? reason(s), Trump would not have been hit unless the shooter's aim was off by several yards.
3. Trump. Was. The. Target. Period. It was an assassination attempt.
4. Further, pictures in the slide-show here, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/criminologist-shooting-at-trump-rally-yet-another-reason-to-focus-on-assault-weapons/ar-BB1qCQhc , prove, as noted above, that while Trump did have two teleprompters, both were still intact after Trump was shot. Trump was not hit by shrapnel from anything close to him.
That these news articles with pictures and diagrams can be found in less than 5 minutes using a mediocre search engine demonstrates how moronically STOOOOOPID these Dem-MSM Assassination-Denialism theories are.
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...That these news articles with pictures and diagrams can be found in less than 5 minutes using a mediocre search engine demonstrates how moronically STOOOOOPID these Dem-MSM Assassination-Denialism theories are.
But then, if there were any group of "people" who could be more perfectly suited as the dictionary illustration of "moronically stoooooopid" than the DUmp'Rats, I have yet to encounter them.
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Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.
Remember the immortal words of George Costanza:
(https://preview.redd.it/theres-a-lot-of-talk-about-georges-lying-prowess-but-i-cant-v0-0pwlaktx8mhc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=c57ed8e62afe7e0a9e562cbfb1eab429317e2c0c)
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Let me guess. This "therapist" AKA your dealer is the one who prescribed "medical MJ" right?
Color me shocked that a leftist DUmmy sees a therapist. :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
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Color me shocked that a leftist DUmmy sees a therapist. :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
Wait until November! :-)
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After I saw Wray's testimony I started to wonder what his DU name is.
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After I saw Wray's testimony I started to wonder what his DU name is.
IHatesTrumpses? FBIPartisan1111?
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Well, the fbi confirmed today that what struck President Trumps ear was a bullet, whether whole of in pieces.
Dear DUmmies:
SUCK IT.
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Well, the fbi confirmed today that what struck President Trumps ear was a bullet, whether whole of in pieces.
Dear DUmmies:
SUCK IT.
And naturally it was a late Friday news dump. Looked up the FBI website and nada, but Fox's own Jacqui Heinrich posted about the statement on Twitter/X:
FBI statement:
“What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle.”
In a Terrible Blow to 'Ear Truthers' the FBI CONFIRMS President Trump Was Struck with a Bullet
Related:
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/07/26/bullet-struck-trump-fbi-n2398899
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Ear Troofer down! Ear Troofer down! :rotf: https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/07/27/fbi-on-second-thought-trump-was-shot-n3792340 :loser:
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Ear Troofer down! Ear Troofer down! :rotf: https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/07/27/fbi-on-second-thought-trump-was-shot-n3792340 :loser:
You should have said "Down Goes Fraiser, Down goes Fraiser" ( In Howard Cosells voice)