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Title: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: dutch508 on February 07, 2022, 09:09:17 AM
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fightforfreedom (336 posts)
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Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official WH documents.

Trump more than likely destroyed hundreds, if not thousands of official records. Do they all have to be included in one count, one charge? Or could he be charged with multiple counts.

I have a gut feeling this is going to turn into a bigger news story. This is a big deal.

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fightforfreedom (336 posts)

4. Now we have the documents he tore up, the smoking gun with his fingerprints on it.

If you have these documents then he didn't destroy them, did he?

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JT45242 (993 posts)

3. should be -- if like the forms for top secret clearance

As explained to me by several people who worked for the Air Force -- each piece of information that violates a clearance rule is up to ten years and ten thousand dollars. I would surmise that records acts work like secrecy acts.

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fightforfreedom (336 posts)

7. Could this not be added too a larger indictment?

We see that all the time in criminal cases.

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fightforfreedom (336 posts)

9. Wait till we learn what documents he tore up and then were taped back together.

Wait till we here the testimony of witnesses who witnessed Trump destroy, burn documents. What was in those documents?

It has been reported many Whitehouse staff are cooperating with the committee. What kind of evidence have they turned over to the committee?

Anon witness says they saw Trump, himself, tear up WH documents...

 :whatever:

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fightforfreedom (336 posts)

12. How did the national archives know Trump had records at his house?

What did Trump get rid of before they were retrieved?

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Star Member PJMcK (17,138 posts)

8. Yes

If you have a functioning DOJ.

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Title: Re: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: SVPete on February 07, 2022, 09:23:34 AM
Toast and Legs, Part 932,584 ... :yawn:
Title: Re: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: 67 Rover on February 07, 2022, 09:43:24 AM
Remember when Trump tore up his SOTU speech on live TV?
Oh wait, never mind.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 07, 2022, 09:58:51 AM
Remember when Trump tore up his SOTU speech on live TV?
Oh wait, never mind.  :whatever:

You mean this one?
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That nasty old bitch needs a special place in hell!!

It never ceases to amaze me that hey have so much hate and venom that they just can't let go of the hate for this man that is all because of fake bull shit.
Title: Re: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: 67 Rover on February 07, 2022, 10:04:04 AM
You mean this one?
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftheleaders-online.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F02%2Fnancy-pelosi-2.png&f=1&nofb=1)

That nasty old bitch needs a special place in hell!!

It never ceases to amaze me that hey have so much hate and venom that they just can't let go of the hate for this man that is all because of fake bull shit.

Yes! That's the one.

Side note:  Over under on Brandon even giving a SOTU speech and if so how long will it be?
Title: Re: Legal question: Can you be charged with multiple counts when destroying official
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 07, 2022, 11:01:33 AM
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JT45242 (993 posts)

3. should be -- if like the forms for top secret clearance

As explained to me by several people who worked for the Air Force -- each piece of information that violates a clearance rule is up to ten years and ten thousand dollars. I would surmise that records acts work like secrecy acts.

Top secret documents don't just exist with a paper trail and chain of custody to account for their whereabouts.  No single person can destroy a top secret document and make it vanish without a trace.

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TOP SECRET
material should be
maintained in a
separate registry,
staffed only by
persons authorised to
handle such material.
If work volumes do not
justify a separate TOP
SECRET registry then
an appropriate officer
must be authorised to
carry out TOP
SECRET registry
duties.
https://www.protectivesecurity.govt.nz/assets/Information-security/b59116afcf/Control-and-handling-of-TOP-SECRET-documents-and-material.pdf (https://www.protectivesecurity.govt.nz/assets/Information-security/b59116afcf/Control-and-handling-of-TOP-SECRET-documents-and-material.pdf)