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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on March 21, 2018, 09:40:19 AM

Title: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: franksolich on March 21, 2018, 09:40:19 AM
Of course it's too early (9:30 a.m. Wednesday) to know.

I'm guessing it's a supporter of the hoary old white-haired sourassed sourpuss crank from Vermont and his thieving wife.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: VelvetElvis on March 21, 2018, 10:13:08 AM
Well it couldn't have been one of the primitives on Skin's island.
Far too competent, and actually moved beyond the threshhold of it's Mom's basement.
Also no Cheetos residue found in the bombing's aftermath.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: diesel driver on March 21, 2018, 03:24:36 PM
Well it couldn't have been one of the primitives on Skin's island.
Far too competent, and actually moved beyond the threshhold of it's Mom's basement.
Also no Cheetos residue found in the bombing's aftermath.

Totally agree, this guy actually left the basement to mail some special delivery packages...

The NY Times labeled this guy as a pro-Trump, anti-gay marriage, Bible thumping religious fannatic.

Which means he's actually a radically left, pro-communist, HELLary supporting DUmmie...
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on March 21, 2018, 05:12:30 PM
I voted not sure because there's no JOOOOOOOS option.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: freedumb2003b on March 22, 2018, 07:26:40 AM
Of course it's too early (9:30 a.m. Wednesday) to know.

I'm guessing it's a supporter of the hoary old white-haired sourassed sourpuss crank from Vermont and his thieving wife.

He was "mainstream" conservative and had been posting FB blogs against gay marriage and abortion.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 22, 2018, 07:40:16 AM
I voted not sure because there's no JOOOOOOOS option.

Ma, I'm slipping.  H5 for the point.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 24, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
So far there's no clear indication (That has been released) that he was either a Prog or a Con.  The only thing unusual that has been released is his home-schooling background, which could just go back to his parents thinking the schools sucked, or he had adjustment problems and that was their solution, or they thought he was getting way-too-much/way-too-little religion.  I don't recall that they have said what his voter registration was, though it's probably out there, meaningless as that might be.

I have to go with 'Not sure,' but I'm leaning toward him just being looney tunes.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: Mary Ann on March 25, 2018, 06:38:19 AM
So far there's no clear indication (That has been released) that he was either a Prog or a Con.  The only thing unusual that has been released is his home-schooling background, which could just go back to his parents thinking the schools sucked, or he had adjustment problems and that was their solution, or they thought he was getting way-too-much/way-too-little religion.  I don't recall that they have said what his voter registration was, though it's probably out there, meaningless as that might be.

I have to go with 'Not sure,' but I'm leaning toward him just being looney tunes.
According to DU, he was a member of some Christian militia group the acronym of which is "RIOT." I haven't been interested enough to look into whether such a group actually exists.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: SVPete on March 25, 2018, 09:05:48 AM
So far there's no clear indication (That has been released) that he was either a Prog or a Con.  The only thing unusual that has been released is his home-schooling background, which could just go back to his parents thinking the schools sucked, or he had adjustment problems and that was their solution, or they thought he was getting way-too-much/way-too-little religion.  I don't recall that they have said what his voter registration was, though it's probably out there, meaningless as that might be.

I have to go with 'Not sure,' but I'm leaning toward him just being looney tunes.

From what I've read (https://www.christianpost.com/news/austin-bomber-was-christian-homeschooled-opposed-gay-marriage-abortion-221869/), his upbringing was in a charismatic Evangelical church and he was homeschooled. He expressed some views that are consistent with that upbringing that would be considered conservative; his opposition to sex offender lists would be controversial in either context. Six years ago in JC he said that he was conservative, but did not know enough of history to support those views; he did not graduate from the JC.

DU-grade Progs would neither recognize nor admit it, but there is a HUGE chasm between how he was raised and what he did the past several months. So there's a huge open, "How did he get from there to here?" question. My guess, based on very very little, is that he fell into the schizophrenia that seems to overtake some - a very few, but enough that a pattern has been noticed - very intelligent people in their mid 20s.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: SVPete on March 25, 2018, 09:12:36 AM
According to DU, he was a member of some Christian militia group the acronym of which is "RIOT." I haven't been interested enough to look into whether such a group actually exists.

Mary Ann, I searched "texas riot militia" and "christian militia riot" using both DDG and Google, on their respective "Web" and "News" tabs, and came up totally empty. I might believe Google tampering with the results for  search phrases containing the word "militia", but not Duck Duck Go, too. Sounds like some DU member made @#$% up or someone is trolling Progs at a level that Google and DDG haven't found.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: Mary Ann on March 25, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
Mary Ann, I searched "texas riot militia" and "christian militia riot" using both DDG and Google, on their respective "Web" and "News" tabs, and came up totally empty. I might believe Google tampering with the results for  search phrases containing the word "militia", but not Duck Duck Go, too. Sounds like some DU member made @#$% up or someone is trolling Progs at a level that Google and DDG haven't found.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210397230

 
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LongTomH (8,403 posts)


Austin bomber Mark Anthony Conditt was part of a 'Christian survivalist group!!!'
Austin bomber Mark Anthony Conditt was part of Christian survivalist group that discussed 'dangerous' chemicals

The Austin bomber was involved in a teenage Christian “survivalist” group that discussed weapons and dangerous chemicals, according to a childhood friend.

Mark Anthony Conditt reportedly took part in a conservative outdoors club called Righteous Invasion of Truth (RIOT), in which home-schooled young people studied the Bible and were taught gun skills.


This is what was posted on DU. Haven't checked the link in this post, or searched Righteous INvasion of Truth yet.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: Mary Ann on March 25, 2018, 12:43:23 PM
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210397230

 
This is what was posted on DU. Haven't checked the link in this post, or searched Righteous INvasion of Truth yet.

Well, I just did a search on Righteous Invasion of Truth, and found out it's a Christian music album or music video or something. In other words, this is total BS that leftists pulled out of thin air to make it sound like the Christian version of ISIS. Wow.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: SVPete on March 25, 2018, 02:26:55 PM
Looking over the UK paper's article it looks like a strictly local student-organized club, so they probably had zero Internet presence. From the article, it sounds like the students' interests were guns, chemistry, and Bible study - all weird and sinister to DU ignorami, but obviously pretty innocuous, given the fact that Conditt was the only one who became violent, and that only after a lapse of 5 or more years. BTW, the homeschooling community is pretty "diverse", so there's a substantial chance that this club was ethnically "diverse".

I se that the leadership staff at the church he attended (https://austinstone.org/about/staff) is majority white, but there are some ethnic minorities on staff. The same is true of the elders (https://austinstone.org/about/staff), some of whom are also staff.

DU-folk desperately need a white right-wing Fundie gun-nut to be a mass killer, to support their narrative that all such people are dangerous crazies. Conditt is the closest they've come, but there's up to 5 years gap between Conditt leaving his parents' home and continual influence and his bombings. Being more recent - playing a DU-style conclusion jumping game - maybe the authorities should be looking at his classes, professors, and friends at the JC. More seriously the question really is what happened in Conditt's head between graduating from high school and his first bombing.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 25, 2018, 03:23:15 PM
Things are only coincidentally what they call themselves these days, it would be foolish to rely on the name of an organization to peg it.
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 25, 2018, 05:15:23 PM
He sounded like antifa. A number of them trained with terrorists during the world trade thing a few years back.
But because he once went to church as a kid, the media will forever label him a "Christian Terrorist."
Title: Re: poll: what does one suppose.....
Post by: SVPete on March 26, 2018, 03:54:48 PM
From this article (https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/26/austin-bomber-showed-no-remorse-referred-psychopath/) it sounds like:

* Conditt just never believed what he was taught in his upbringing and never much cared about other people's lives;

* Opportunity, not race, was how he selected his victims;

* The officers who succeeded in stopping Conditt may have unknowingly preempted a suicide bombing in a (possibly) crowded McDonalds.