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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 08, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
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This being posted in the DUmpster as a public service.
The first polls close at 5:00 p.m. central time, in Indiana and Kentucky.
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Google opens up by showing Trump carrying Kentucky and northern New Hampshire.
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I think Maine may go stripe.
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Indiana finally coming in; first results in favor of Trump.
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I think the fact the we are not being inundated with exit poll data from the media bodes well for Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYY5-3_7LXQ
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Indiana finally coming in; first results in favor of Trump.
Indiana is almost sure fire for Trump... I'm curious to see how our Gov. and Senate races go.
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Per CBS: in Kentucky, Trump up 36000 to 16000 with 57 / 3698 reporting
http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/kentucky/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/kentucky/)
Indiana:
Trump 76,347 clinton 32,955
136 / 5375 reporting
http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/indiana/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/indiana/)
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In about five minutes (6:00 p.m. central time), polls close in
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Vermont
Virginia
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Trump declared winner in Indiana.
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Trump declared winner in Kentucky.
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With zero votes counted, Messalina Agrippina declared winner in Vermont.
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With zero votes counted, Messalina Agrippina declared winner in Vermont.
No surprise there. VT is a Dem stronghold.
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With zero votes counted, Messalina Agrippina declared winner in Vermont.
Do the Sandernistas know? LOL!!!
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Do the Sandernistas know? LOL!!!
A better question is do they even care?
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With zero votes counted, Messalina Agrippina declared winner in Vermont.
With zero votes counted !! WTH
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>Messalina Agrippina declared winner in Vermont
No doubt, but the woodchucks I hanged with for 20 years there burned a lot of powder not giving a f%^ck.
There are a lot of implants but the natives are restless and good people.
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With zero votes counted !! WTH
Probably based solely upon exit polling, although they wait until the polls are closed before announcing the numbers. They appear to have done the same with West Virginia, conceding it to Trump with no votes counted.
I really think they should wait until at least a few numbers are in, so as to check those against their exit polling results.
By the way, it doesn't look likely I'm hanging around here much longer; as happened in 2008 and 2012, the site seems to have slown down considerably (at least for me), making it a nuisance to read and comment. Wretched Excess once explained the "why" of it, but I forget. I think it had to do with too much traffic slowing things down. But anyway, it's an irritant.
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Trump declared winner in Indiana.
Pretty much a given here. It was pointless for me to vote today, but I did it anyway just to add to the crushing number.
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Fox is showing Trump down in FL(2% with 72% in) and NC(6% with 13% in)
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Clinton leading in Fla by 100,000 votes, 70 percent precincts reporting.
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Never underestimate the gullibility of the American people when it comes to getting fooled by the Dems. And it carries over to other things with libs. You'll never go broke if you know how to use them to your own advantage.
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Trump up by 130,000 in Virginia with 60 percent in
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Trump up in Fla with 91% in:
Trump: 4311520
Clinton: 4196142
This will go to a recount and the dems will go bonkers again. Shades of 2000 all over again.
Trump is getting killed in PA. 2% in.
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up is down and DU is down for the count.
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Don't know if this means anything, but here in Michigan, Broomhilda appears to be only up by about 2,000 votes. What's significant about that is that only Wayne County (Detroit), and Oakland, (Detroit 'burbs), have gone for her. Much of the rest of the state shows no results, but my guess is that MOST will go Trump.
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Whoa! Trump now up by 12,000 in MICHIGAN!
Lots of counties haven't reported yet.
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NYTimes is now "guessing" that NC will go to Trump and VA will go for clinton.
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I'm amazed at how close so many races are. Nice to see after all the projections with Clinton winning with such a huge amount of the electoral college. I have some serious hope that Clinton might not win.
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They are starting to consider that Florida may go to Trump.
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.. Its a wait and see, thats for sure... Definitely a long night ahead.. - Anyway.. it does seem that a majority of the undecided/undeclared are swinging right. Good news for The Don, but not over yet by a long shot.
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http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
At the moment they have Trump projected to win by 54%.
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Fingers and toes crossed
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http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
At the moment they have Trump projected to win by 54%.
Darn! I wish I were reading this on the DUmp!!
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Hillary up by 6000 votes with 81% in VA
Trump up by 100000 in NC with 80 percent in.
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Wow the NYT just moved PA over to Trump
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Around 4:30pm on Tuesday November 8, Democratic Underground was hacked, apparently by a supporter of Donald Trump. This person clearly knew what they were doing, and despite our best efforts we have not yet been able to resolve the issues caused by the hack.
We do not believe that any member data has been compromised. And we are confident that donor data has not been compromised because that information is handled by PayPal and never passes through to our servers. But at this time we are unable to bring our discussion forum online.
The hack was clearly aimed to cause maximum disruption on our busiest night of the year, and we deeply regret that we won't be able to spend election night with our great community of members. We ask for your patience while we continue to work to fix this problem, and while we do not have a time frame we will do our best to get DU back online as soon as possible.
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You really think people are stupid...you shut it down David Allen Moskwa.
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New York Times is now forecasting Trump to win
295 EV to 243 305 to 233.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
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:rotf: :rotf:
You really think people are stupid...you shut it down David Allen Moskwa.
They always shut down DU during an election. It is unusual they shut down early.
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Had to be Trump himself
Or Putin
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grahmforwhateverthe**** over at DI is probably going to drown himself in the pool tomorrow.
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OHIO FOR TRUMP!!!!! OMG!
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grahmforwhateverthe**** over at DI is probably going to drown himself in the pool tomorrow.
Graham4Anything. What a character he was. Never understood why he got banned.
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I bet The Master's Nemesis is hoppin' mad.
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1/3 vote in 35,000 vote lead for Trump in Michigan. 28,000+ ahead in Wisconsin. He’s going to win Florida, up by 100,000+ still.
He’s way ahead still in NC with over 80% in, Georgia he should win and NH he is expanding his lead to 10,000+ up.
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New York Times is now forecasting Trump to win 295 EV to 243 305 to 233.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
They got Trump winning PA. I disagree. Meh... what do I know. I think it is going to be close all over and I really don't think this will be over tonite. Trump is doing better than I thought he would.
Just checked the NY times and they got it down to 284 Trump.
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I bet The Master's Nemesis is hoppin' mad.
I'd give about anything to see the meltdown in real-time... even if it ends up going Clinton, watching them pull their hair out is something to miss. Damn hackers...
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They got Trump winning PA. I disagree. Meh... what do I know. I think it is going to be close all over and I really don't think this will be over tonite. Trump is doing better than I thought he would.
Just checked the NY times and they got it down to 284 Trump.
The media does not know what they are talking about. I still think it will be very close.
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I bet The Master's Nemesis is hoppin' mad.
I'd give about anything to see the meltdown in real-time... even if it ends up going Clinton, watching them pull their hair out is something to miss. Damn hackers...
DUmmies can never be pleased no matter who wins.
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Now it's three times today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bCUDAMHkXM&index=6&list=PLZUp4w8LY7wiX3sQfCXnp40KTmnyoOp3T
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grahmforwhateverthe**** over at DI is probably going to drown himself in the pool tomorrow.
He's been predicting a 540 Electoral win for Hillary.
Normally a false Prophet gets stoned, but G4A has been posting stoned for years.
PS, I just got back from work and DI, DU are down. This site is dead slow. Did all the DUmmies come here?
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NC called for Trump per FoxNews
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Wisconsin: Ron Johnson wins over Russ Feingold. This is HUGE! The DUmp thought Feingold had this one in the bag.
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I hate Skins island is down. I'd like to watch them freaking out right about now.
Please note, primitives, we're as calm, cool, and collected as can be. No matter who wins, we've got our emotions and manners under control. You're the over-the-top whackos and kooks, as you always have been.
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He's been predicting a 540 Electoral win for Hillary.
Normally a false Prophet gets stoned, but G4A has been posting stoned for years.
PS, I just got back from work and DI, DU are down. This site is dead slow. Did all the DUmmies come here?
540 Electoral Votes??????? What is he smoking?
I notice CC is slow too.
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Even if Shillary pulls it out she will face an opposition Congress and essentially a monumental rebuke from the majority of the country.
She would be a worst ( :wink: nads) then lame duck.
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New York Times
Trump: 172
Clinton: 168
FOX News
Trump: 216
Clinton: 202
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esad DU. islamo porking scum that you are. Stay away from my Prime Rib.
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I hate Skins island is down. I'd like to watch them freaking out right about now.
Please note, primitives, we're as calm, cool, and collected as can be. No matter who wins, we've got our emotions and manners under control. You're the over-the-top whackos and kooks, as you always have been.
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Tomorrow was going to be the best day of their lives. They said they were going to GRIND our faces in Broomhilda's *historic* victory. They were going to rub salt in our wounds. They were going to gloat, non-stop, for days and days.
No matter what happens over the next few hours, I seriously doubt there will be much gloating going on.
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Dow Futures now down 700 points. Not a good sign for HRC.
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I hate Skins island is down. I'd like to watch them freaking out right about now.
Please note, primitives, we're as calm, cool, and collected as can be. No matter who wins, we've got our emotions and manners under control. You're the over-the-top whackos and kooks, as you always have been.
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It would be fun to watch their epic meltdown.
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Tomorrow was going to be the best day of their lives. They said they were going to GRIND our faces in Broomhilda's *historic* victory. They were going to rub salt in our wounds. They were going to gloat, non-stop, for days and days.
No matter what happens over the next few hours, I seriously doubt there will be much gloating going on.
Payback is now. :evillaugh:
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WOW!! Trump may actually win this.
He's still too liberal for my tastes, but he's better than the Clinton crime family.
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I hate Skins island is down. I'd like to watch them freaking out right about now.
Please note, primitives, we're as calm, cool, and collected as can be. No matter who wins, we've got our emotions and manners under control. You're the over-the-top whackos and kooks, as you always have been.
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I wonder if Elad tried Ctrl; altRIGHT' Delete? :lmao:
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What I've found so far.
Cliten 209
Trump 244
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Fox just called WI for Trump. :yahoo:
ETA: Add Iowa!
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Iowa just got called for Trump. Electorial votes 238 Trump 209 Clinton
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Looks like we are likely to 'Make America Great Again' - Not a guarantee yet - but its getting close.
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Nikkei 225 has dropped more than 900 points.
Dow Jones Futures has dropped more than 700 points.
http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures
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I hate being this close. Please PA, pull through!
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I hate being this close. Please PA, pull through!
Or Michigan.
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I wonder if Elad tried Ctrl; altRIGHT' Delete? :lmao:
I see what you did there!
:rotf:
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Nikkei 225 has dropped more than 900 points.
Dow Jones Futures has dropped more than 700 points.
http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures
Nikkei 225 has dropped more than 1,000 points.
Dow Jones Futures has dropped more than 800 points.
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I am having considerable problems with this site. And I've tried Internet Explorer 11, Microsoft Edge, and Pale Moon. It just doesn't work, excepting very slowly and clumsily.
Anyway.
I was parked at the New York Times web-site all evening long, and getting depressed because it seemed as if the (R) candidate would come close, but no banana.
I finally gave up and was getting ready to go to bed, when I thought I'd check freerepublic--a site that gave me no problems--first.
Talk about a surprise. To put it mildly.
The first thing I saw was "TRUMP WINS!" and then below that, TRUMP TAKES WISCONSIN!
The New York Times web-site had given not a clue; the electoral college count was still at 216 (her) and 222 (him) at this same time.
I went to Drudge to confirm what I'd read on freerepublic.
My God.
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http://heatst.com/politics/canadas-immigration-site-crashes-as-liberals-panic/
Canada’s Immigration Site Crashes as Liberals Panic
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :rotf:
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One of these stupid networks need to call MI or PA or something for Trump and let's call it a night.
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I am having considerable problems with this site. And I've tried Internet Explorer 11, Microsoft Edge, and Pale Moon. It just doesn't work, excepting very slowly and clumsily.
Anyway.
I was parked at the New York Times web-site all evening long, and getting depressed because it seemed as if the (R) candidate would come close, but no banana.
I finally gave up and was getting ready to go to bed, when I thought I'd check freerepublic--a site that gave me no problems--first.
Talk about a surprise. To put it mildly.
The first thing I saw was "TRUMP WINS!" and then below that, TRUMP TAKES WISCONSIN!
The New York Times web-site had given not a clue; the electoral college count was still at 216 (her) and 222 (him) at this same time.
I went to Drudge to confirm what I'd read on freerepublic.
My God.
RE : problems - the site is getting hammered, not maliciously (for the most part) mainly because of a massive influx of new visitors. There are safeguards in place from keeping it from flying off the rails, the unfortunate effect is slow response for the time while its under stress.
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http://heatst.com/politics/canadas-immigration-site-crashes-as-liberals-panic/
Canada’s Immigration Site Crashes as Liberals Panic
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :rotf:
Yeah. Saw that. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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RE : problems - the site is getting hammered, not maliciously (for the most part) mainly because of a massive influx of new visitors. There are safeguards in place from keeping it from flying off the rails, the unfortunate effect is slow response for the time while its under stress.
I figured it was something like that; increased traffic.
<<<missed interacting with everybody tonight.
I swear, the New York Times must've been deliberately lagging in reporting certain results, and hasty in reporting other results. Whatever made their candidate of choice look good, whatever made the guy they don't like look bad. I had no idea this was going on, and was getting significantly depressed, as probably the New York Times wanted (R)s to get.
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Trump has a nice lead in Michigan,.
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Quote from: franksolich on Today at 11:16:50 PM
I am having considerable problems with this site.
Running slow, but working! :II:
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Trump has a nice lead in Michigan,.
PA called for teh Donald, .... finally.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzHRQJW8AAYjgc.jpg)
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Well, it's looking like Stinky was pretty wide of the mark on that one.
I'm like, really late to the party.
Did Skins's island get back up while I was gone? Anybody catch anything there?
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Forget it. I just checked myself, not having thought to do that.
Around 4:30pm on Tuesday November 8, Democratic Underground was hacked, apparently by a supporter of Donald Trump. This person clearly knew what they were doing, and despite our best efforts we have not yet been able to resolve the issues caused by the hack.
We do not believe that any member data has been compromised. And we are confident that donor data has not been compromised because that information is handled by PayPal and never passes through to our servers. But at this time we are unable to bring our discussion forum online.
The hack was clearly aimed to cause maximum disruption on our busiest night of the year, and we deeply regret that we won't be able to spend election night with our great community of members. We ask for your patience while we continue to work to fix this problem, and while we do not have a time frame we will do our best to get DU back online as soon as possible.
If anyone has any information about the hack, or has knowledge that might help us to fix it, please feel free to contact us: admin@democraticunderground.com
We will be posting updates on Facebook and Twitter.
We are deeply disappointed that this has happened. But we'll be back.
Skinner, EarlG, and Elad
DU Administrators
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I just went and checked something else.
Other than that one still has to go through that extra door to get onto Manny's message board--it's no effort; one just has to wait three or four seconds while Manny or one of his chicks checks out your browser--it's still there and in good running order.
For those who need a primitive "fix," I suggest this. Manny's primitives aren't as amusing as Skins's primitives, but in a bind they'll do.
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Looks like it's a done deal, the next few years are going to be interesting.
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/11/09/van-jones-emotional-election-results-sot.cnn
Emotional Van Jones: How do I explain this to my children?
CNN political commentator Van Jones gets emotional during a panel discussion of a possible Donald Trump presidential upset.
Source: CNN
Video at link. This is the Van Jones that was way to communist to get into the Obama administration
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-headquarters-crowd-reaction-crying-leaving-keilar.cnn
People crying, leaving Clinton headquarters
Video at link.
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/11/09/van-jones-emotional-election-results-sot.cnn
Emotional Van Jones: How do I explain this to my children?
CNN political commentator Van Jones gets emotional during a panel discussion of a possible Donald Trump presidential upset.
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ghostofthefuture.com%2Fimages%2FAni2%2FUnfathomableSadness.gif&f=1)
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2016_general/president/
Real Clear Politics calls it for Trump.
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No matter what happens in the next few years we just witnessed history. An outsider came into a party and beat out 16 career politicians then went on to beat a politician who has been aspiring to be President for at least the past 20 years.
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BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Democratic Party machine (among others) threw everything they had at Trump, and he beat the odds. Even if you despise the man, you have to acknowledge that.
I've been waiting to use this, because I abide by the philosophy that there'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done, but I've got three words for ya...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsS_VMzY10I[/youtube]
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Ladies and Gentlemen, your next President of the United States...Donald J Trump!
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I have no desire to be conciliatory DUmbasses,if and when skins brings your putrid site back on line I will revel in your misery.
You are the enemy of all that is honorable and American and you,by the grace of God have been beaten back.
Welcome to President Trump,AG Guiliani,a GOP Congress and a young and energetic replacement to Justice Scalia.
:yahoo: :nelson:
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Hoo boy, I can't even imagine what kinds of ranting and tantrums the DUmmies will treat us to over the next few days, after the Democratic Party got such a complete and thorough beat- down. TMN will be hopping mad, undergroundpanther will be coughing up hairballs, and Pitt will likely spend the next several days sitting in a corner of his apartment in his underwear, sobbing uncontrollably and going through one bottle of Jack Daniels after another.
We will likely see one thread after another with them either shrieking about "Voter fraud," ranting about how America's an evil nation of brainless racist hillbillies, or promising to move to Canada without ever following through.
White House security better keep an eye on things in January, I could see Moo- Chelle following Hillary's example from January 2001 and trying to make off with everything in the White House that isn't bolted down.
However, I hereby make a promise:
While I may occasionally make light of the DUmmies' misery over the next couple months, I will not be anywhere near as bad of a winner as the DUmmies were in November- December 2008. I recall a DU thread in I believe December of 2008 in which a DUmmy said something like "Why can't Bush just get out of Barack's house already?" You won't see anything like that from me, I promise you.
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Still no concession speech from Hillary. Not going to bow out gracefully? People have been working tirelessly for her for months and they just get sent home without a speech, just get dismissed by Podesta.
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http://heatst.com/politics/canadas-immigration-site-crashes-as-liberals-panic/
Canada’s Immigration Site Crashes as Liberals Panic
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :rotf:
Yeah. Saw that. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
That's what I remember hearing as I went to sleep last night, with a BIG SMILE ON MY FACE!!!! :yahoo:
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Hoo boy, I can't even imagine what kinds of ranting and tantrums the DUmmies will treat us to over the next few days, after the Democratic Party got such a complete and thorough beat- down. TMN will be hopping mad, undergroundpanther will be coughing up hairballs, and Pitt will likely spend the next several days sitting in a corner of his apartment in his underwear, sobbing uncontrollably and going through one bottle of Jack Daniels after another.
We will likely see one thread after another with them either shrieking about "Voter fraud," ranting about how America's an evil nation of brainless racist hillbillies, or promising to move to Canada without ever following through.
White House security better keep an eye on things in January, I could see Moo- Chelle following Hillary's example from January 2001 and trying to make off with everything in the White House that isn't bolted down.
However, I hereby make a promise:
While I may occasionally make light of the DUmmies' misery over the next couple months, I will not be anywhere near as bad of a winner as the DUmmies were in November- December 2008. I recall a DU thread in I believe December of 2008 in which a DUmmy said something like "Why can't Bush just get out of Barack's house already?" You won't see anything like that from me, I promise you.
Yeah, ain't life grand! :cheersmate: :yahoo:
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The Meltdown is going to be epic. And you can guarantee, that they will convince themselves that Trump won the fraud. - - I mean, how else is it possible that someone goes from no political office ever to the presidency? So comma we can expect to be treated to posts about the Illuminati Vladimir Putin voter fraud hacked election machines Black Magic and so many tears over the next four years.
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I tuned in to MoonBat Radio this morning (SirusXM Progress) and the host was shell shocked and most of his callers were either crying, or just about to cry.
IT WAS GREAT!
(If I didn't have to work for a living I would still be listening)
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Around 4:30pm on Tuesday November 8, Democratic Underground was hacked, apparently by a supporter of Donald Trump. This person clearly knew what they were doing, and despite our best efforts we have not yet been able to resolve the issues caused by the hack.
We do not believe that any member data has been compromised. And we are confident that donor data has not been compromised because that information is handled by PayPal and never passes through to our servers. But at this time we are unable to bring our discussion forum online.
The hack was clearly aimed to cause maximum disruption on our busiest night of the year, and we deeply regret that we won't be able to spend election night with our great community of members. We ask for your patience while we continue to work to fix this problem, and while we do not have a time frame we will do our best to get DU back online as soon as possible.
If anyone has any information about the hack, or has knowledge that might help us to fix it, please feel free to contact us: admin@democraticunderground.com
We will be posting updates on Facebook and Twitter.
We are deeply disappointed that this has happened. But we'll be back.
Skinner, EarlG, and Elad
DU Administrators
Dear DUmmies,
No true Trump supporter last night would want to shut down your board. Why deny ourselves the chance to watch you emotional retards melt down as the returns come in. If anything, $kinner and the others pulled the plug to keep you from embarrassing yourselves further.
PS I almost forgot. :bird: you guys, Trump won. Suck it. :tongue:
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Just a thought.
Did DU go down about the same time the returns showed Hillary was not going to win? Maybe a democrat higher up decided to pull the plug on DU because it was no longer needed to herd the kooks of their party.
Sort of along the lines how her campaign canceled her fireworks before the election, it was not going to be needed.
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Still no concession speech from Hillary. Not going to bow out gracefully? People have been working tirelessly for her for months and they just get sent home without a speech, just get dismissed by Podesta.
So, she's refusing to accept the results of the election? Isn't that supposed to be appallingly, hideously antidemocratic? Isn't that a threat to our political system?
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Just a thought.
Did DU go down about the same time the returns showed Hillary was not going to win? Maybe a democrat higher up decided to pull the plug on DU because it was no longer needed to herd the kooks of their party.
Sort of along the lines how her campaign canceled her fireworks before the election, it was not going to be needed.
It is not the first time Mr Shelly Moskwa took the site down and claimed it was beyond his control.
I have no doubt the Clintoon camp via skins grifter wife let him know what was brewing.
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It is not the first time Mr Shelly Moskwa took the site down and claimed it was beyond his control.
I have no doubt the Clintoon camp via skins grifter wife let him know what was brewing.
It pisses me off. I wanted to to see the WI DUmmies reaction to Russ Feingold being not only rejected again but the state turning red. :fuelfire:
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I figured it was something like that; increased traffic.
<<<missed interacting with everybody tonight.
:bawl: So did I...just couldn't get internet to move fast enough. Good show people! :cheersmate: We couldn't deliver NY, but we won the county. And we sent our R Congresswoman back. I'm operating on like 4 hours sleep. :yahoo:
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I stayed up until 2:30am but none of the networks would call it. The AP and NYT had already called it, so I figured it was over and hit the hay. But that was stupid to wait so long.
And this...
Van Jones: How do I explain this to my children?
... is an example of someone who should never have had children. I feel sorry for the kids.
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You know, it is a little to much of a coincidence that Hillary cancelled her fire works a day before the election, and then DU went off line the night of the election....
IMHO they some how managed to get some accurate polling and knew she was going to lose it big time.
Which I for one am thanking God for right now.
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http://heatst.com/politics/canadas-immigration-site-crashes-as-liberals-panic/
Canada’s Immigration Site Crashes as Liberals Panic
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :rotf:
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Canadians, do not let these people into your country.
DUmmies, if you don't like God being mentioned in the pledge of allegiance, you're not going to like that He's mentioned in the Canadian national anthem.