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molova (434 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141610782
Exclusive: FBI still does not have warrant to review new Clinton emails
Source: Yahoo News
FBI Director James Comey wrote his bombshell letter to Congress on Friday about newly discovered emails that were potentially “pertinent†to the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server before agents were able to review any of the material because the bureau had not yet gotten a search warrant to read them, three government officials who have been briefed on the probe told Yahoo News.
When Comey wrote the letter, “he had no idea what was in the content of the emails,†one of the officials said, referring to recently discovered emails that were found on the laptop of disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of top Clinton aide Huma Abedin. Weiner is under investigation for allegedly sending illicit text messages to a 15-year-old girl.
As of Saturday night, the FBI had still not gotten approval from the Justice Department for a warrant that would allow them to read any of the newly discovered Abedin emails, and therefore are still in the dark about whether they include any classified material that the bureau has not already seen.
Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html
Nor should Comey get a warrant.
Yes- that will look so good on the evening news.
forest444 (5,758 posts)
1. Had they been incriminating against Hillary in any way, they would have no doubt been leaked.
J. Edgar "Mary" Hoover would be proud.
Are you making fun of transvestites?
Star Member spooky3 (18,114 posts)
9. Misleading headline
There is no evidence that they are "Clinton" emails. I get that the headline writer wants to communicate with non-political-enthusiast readers so that they know which emails the article is discussing. But this practice perpetuates the wrong of Comey's innuendo.
The little DUmpmonkiez are always so sure they know exactly what is going on. Too bad they don't.
Star Member Ligyron (882 posts)
14. Maybe Comey didn't know but some RW agent sure probably did/does.
Not granting him a warrant will slow down the release of any favorable information way past the election, which may be the case anyway but then he would have an excuse for sure.
Right now, people not familiar with how any of this works (most people) assume the worst. I really hope those saying there's no connection to HRC are right, but how do we know this for sure? Because some FBI "source" said so to someone?
As I've stated elsewhere, all the Dems need to go balls out, screaming crazy about how this is unfair, interfering with an election, violation of the Hatch Act from the surrogates on up to the AG and DOJ. File lawsuits, be on TV every second available like the GrOPers do all the time. Being nice has never worked for us and this is an emergency.
OK, DUmpmonkiez.... here is what your good buddy Dutch thinks. Uma was recieving all the hillary e-mails on this device she kept at home. One of several it seems. At some point she switched and Weiner got it to do his porn on. Maybe she 'forgot' to wipe it down or something but the e-mail files remained on the hard drive. Then- when all the shit about e-mails starts making news she wipes all her stuff (forgetting about this one) until the FBI seizes Anthony's devices to investigate his pedo shit. The FBI suddenly take a look and '''''''OH-SHIT!!!!""""
It wouldn't take but a few minutes for them to realixe what they have- all the un altered e-mails from Hillary copied by Uma. Now... maybe there is stuff on there we haven't seen yet because Hillary had effectively destroyed all other copies... and didn't even realize there was this one. Uma sure seemed upset about it... I'm better she forgot too.
OR- she was keeping it as a get out of jail free card just in case she needed to blackmail Hillary at some point.
Who knows... Let's see what the FBI has.
Star Member Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (12,396 posts)
21. So how does he know there are Hillary's e-mails on the computer
Or does he just ass u me this?
TrollBuster9090 (3,261 posts)
23. Ironically, he wouldn't GET a warrant under normal circumstances. He has absolutely no evidence
He has absolutely no probable cause. No evidence that there is anything illegal in Abedin's emails. Congress sent the FBI out to determine if CLINTON sent classified documents from a non-secured server, and they found basically no evidence of that.
That being said, Abedin HERSELF should probably give them permission to look at her emails. Because if they're not looked at, the GOP will continue to claim there's evidence of wrong doing in there.
Hey, DUmbass. They already had a warrant to search the computer for Wiener porn shit... BUT, suddenly they found evidence of another crime unrelated to the original search warrant. THEY HAVE to get another warrant to investigate the new stuff and that they have reasonable suspicion there is evidence of a crime is enough to get a search warrant. This stuff does happen all the time.
Star Member Nitram (4,801 posts)
25. Fire Comey! He had no cause to comment on anything but the fact that they found no evidence to charge Clinton. He now throws a bomb into the election less than two weeks before the vote. This is not the way our democracy works.
Hillary will have him executed...
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There is no way out of this for the rats. I'm guessing Huma had a little insurance stored on the home computer and it got grabbed up with all the other devices. If that is the case, she probably only kept the juiciest e-mails. Comey is between a rock and a hard place.
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The media cover up is rolling down the road,so far all unnamed sources.
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So cute!
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Response to molova (Original post)Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:14 AM
Star Member Kablooie (12,023 posts)
31. If no one read them how the hell do they know they are pertinent to the email investigation?
I don't understand how this works.
Because Huma Weiner didn't turn over all of her devices earlier in the investigation like she was supposed to do. Some FBI guy was probably looking at Carlos Danger's computer during the kiddie porno investigation and spotted some of Huma's State Dept. stuff on it.
Primitives don't understand how this stuff works because they don't want to know.
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Star Member Nitram (4,801 posts)
25. Fire Comey! He had no cause to comment on anything but the fact that they found no evidence to charge Clinton. He now throws a bomb into the election less than two weeks before the vote. This is not the way our democracy works.
Maybe you could send the same bunch of federal marshals that tackled and tased a lawyer making a legal argument in an Oregon courtroom, to tase Comey because reasons.
You know you want to.
CMD
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I wish I had a dollar for every "could someone please explain to me why..." post over at democrat underground today.
Rock Head's soothing words aren't going to be enough to calm them.
Resign Hillary!
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Because Huma Weiner didn't turn over all of her devices earlier in the investigation like she was supposed to do. Some FBI guy was probably looking at Carlos Danger's computer during the kiddie porno investigation and spotted some of Huma's State Dept. stuff on it.
Primitives don't understand how this stuff works because they don't want to know.
Well, there are are several new rumors about what this laptop contains.. and if true, the DUmmies should be scared.
Again, *RUMORS* - unconfirmed, so take with a 130 pound grain of salt
The rumors are that along with some of the State Dept Emails, there are other emails shared between Team Clinton members after the scandal broke. - Detailing plans on how to destroy evidence, and impede the investigation. -- apparently **THESE** are the EMails of interest to the FBI.
If this is true, then the old adage "It's not the crime, it's the coverup" is going to be getting quite a workout in the next few days.
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Well, there are are several new rumors about what this laptop contains.. and if true, the DUmmies should be scared.
Again, *RUMORS* - unconfirmed, so take with a 130 pound grain of salt
The rumors are that along with some of the State Dept Emails, there are other emails shared between Team Clinton members after the scandal broke. - Detailing plans on how to destroy evidence, and impede the investigation. -- apparently **THESE** are the EMails of interest to the FBI.
If this is true, then the old adage "It's not the crime, it's the coverup" is going to be getting quite a workout in the next few days.
I don't think even Loretta Lynch could ignore that type of evidence. Maybe that's what Wikileaks has left to drop?
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I don't think even Loretta Lynch could ignore that type of evidence. Maybe that's what Wikileaks has left to drop?
I don't know - <<BUT>> this just dropped instead. Keep in mind this is from a conservative source that I'm unfamiliar with, but if true, The DOJ may have joined the FBI in seeking Huma's EMails. So.. You may be right, whatever this evidence is, it might be too big for Lynch to ignore.
Up until this article, all the news I've read has been that the DOJ has been impeding the FBI on access to the EMails.
http://vesselnews.io/latest-doj-fbi-working-together-obtaining-approval-conduct-full-search-huma-abedeins-emails/
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And this just in - there are apparently 650 thousand Emails on the laptop. DUmmies, your candidate is screwn. - But I suspect Huma will fall on her sword to make it go away.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957
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I have a question about this. Why does the FBI need a search warrant anyway? Huma had already been served a subpoena for all devices containing any emails. Whether this one being turned over is an honest mistake or not, it should still fall under that original subpoena. So, why do they need a new warrant?
Although I could see the argument that because it was found during a search for Carlos Danger's pedo-files, that they might need one, but even then, that should be straightforward "Your Honor, while executing this authorized search on this device, we found evidence of another crime and would like a search warrant in order to fully catalog the evidence". Same as if they find illegal guns while raiding a crackhouse.
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I have a question about this. Why does the FBI need a search warrant anyway? Huma had already been served a subpoena for all devices containing any emails. Whether this one being turned over is an honest mistake or not, it should still fall under that original subpoena. So, why do they need a new warrant?
Although I could see the argument that because it was found during a search for Carlos Danger's pedo-files, that they might need one, but even then, that should be straightforward "Your Honor, while executing this authorized search on this device, we found evidence of another crime and would like a search warrant in order to fully catalog the evidence". Same as if they find illegal guns while raiding a crackhouse.
Honestly, I think they are doing it to force the DOJ into compliance. - otherwise cries of 'rogue agency' will be spread far and wide.
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Honestly, I think they are doing it to force the DOJ into compliance. - otherwise cries of 'rogue agency' will be spread far and wide.
They were looking at the device for another investigation and finding new evidence of a crime- a new crime- they must get a new warrant to use this new evidence. To not do this they risk everything being thrown out in a criminal trial.
The law is very strict on this sort of thing.
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They were looking at the device for another investigation and finding new evidence of a crime- a new crime- they must get a new warrant to use this new evidence. To not do this they risk everything being thrown out in a criminal trial.
The law is very strict on this sort of thing.
Excellent information, thanks. ^5.
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Excellent information, thanks. ^5.
I agree excellent information, but I must bs him out of principle.
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I agree excellent information, but I must bs him out of principle.
Excellent. Who am I to get between someone and their principles ? :rofl:
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Nor should Comey get a warrant.
I have some bad news for you, Dummy.
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I have some bad news for you, Dummy.
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What -- News like this perhaps ?? :rofl:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fbi-obtains-warrant-newly-discovered-emails-clinton-probe-reid-accuses-n675411
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What -- News like this perhaps ?? :rofl:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fbi-obtains-warrant-newly-discovered-emails-clinton-probe-reid-accuses-n675411
That would be it!
:cheersmate:
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Sort of like Christmas in July.
Or October.
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Star Member Ligyron (882 posts)
14. Maybe Comey didn't know but some RW agent sure probably did/does.
Not granting him a warrant will slow down the release of any favorable information way past the election, which may be the case anyway but then he would have an excuse for sure.
Right now, people not familiar with how any of this works (most people) assume the worst. I really hope those saying there's no connection to HRC are right, but how do we know this for sure? Because some FBI "source" said so to someone?
As I've stated elsewhere, all the Dems need to go balls out, screaming crazy about how this is unfair, interfering with an election, violation of the Hatch Act from the surrogates on up to the AG and DOJ. File lawsuits, be on TV every second available like the GrOPers do all the time. Being nice has never worked for us and this is an emergency.
Forget about electing someone who's fit and capable. Right?
"All's we gotta do is slow it down enough to squeeze by, then it won't matter when the undeniable truth of her crimes and corruption come out, we will have already won!"
Man, it just makes you want to punch these pukes in the throat.
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Sort of like Christmas in July.
Or October.
I don't know who said it the other night, I was just listening to the TV in the background... All I heard was "This is Trump's gift from the political gods".
I got a pretty good chuckle out of that one.
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I don't know who said it the other night, I was just listening to the TV in the background... All I heard was "This is Trump's gift from the political gods".
I got a pretty good chuckle out of that one.
Maybe. To paraphrase an old saying "Those that the political gods would destroy, they first make above the law"
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/30/politics/clinton-emails-fbi-abedin/index.html
CNN reports state department emails on the server thought to be those Hillary deleted on her devices before turning over her hard drives to the FBI...after she had received a subpoena for them...
can you say Obstruction of Justice. Criminal Conspiracy, Destroying Evidence and Lying to Congress?
:-)
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/30/politics/clinton-emails-fbi-abedin/index.html
CNN reports state department emails on the server thought to be those Hillary deleted on her devices before turning over her hard drives to the FBI...after she had received a subpoena for them...
can you say Obstruction of Justice. Criminal Conspiracy, Destroying Evidence and Lying to Congress?
:-)
And the cherry on that sundae would be destruction of public records, penalty for which is removal from ANY office and PERMANENT disqualification
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I don't know who said it the other night, I was just listening to the TV in the background... All I heard was "This is Trump's gift from the political gods".
I got a pretty good chuckle out of that one.
I see this as a gift from The SHREW's hubris and maybe a divine twisting of her stonewall tactic against her.
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I'm not a lawyer, I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but isn't this what the RICO laws are for?
Also, I heard that RICO charges cannot be pardoned away. Again I are engineer and only deal with the laws of science.
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Also, I heard that RICO charges cannot be pardoned away. Again I are engineer and only deal with the laws of science.
That's not true. Impeachment is the only exception. All federal criminal offenses may be pardoned.
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I caught some of Hannity's analysis/commentary on this during my evening commute. Even if you arbitrarily discount what he said was possible by 90%, Huma's looking at an orange-jumpsuit-modelling career at the GrayBar Hotel, and may do what her Weiner did, cooperate with the FBI.
Hannity was speaking in terms of a Constitutional Crisis, regardless of who wins, and he was not using the term with relish.
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I caught some of Hannity's analysis/commentary on this during my evening commute. Even if you arbitrarily discount what he said was possible by 90%, Huma's looking at an orange-jumpsuit-modelling career at the GrayBar Hotel, and may do what her Weiner did, cooperate with the FBI.
Hannity was speaking in terms of a Constitutional Crisis, regardless of who wins, and he was not using the term with relish.
Constitutional crises for Trump or Clinton.
Sounds like a good reason to vote for Johnson.