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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on September 20, 2016, 02:36:30 PM
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TheMastersNemesis (5,803 posts)
RW Christians Embrace Trump Despite Nuclear Threat. Would Bring Rapture Sooner.
The RW Christian community sees that they win both ways. With Trump they get religious freedom to discriminate openly and viciously and if Trump causes WWIII they will get THEIR rapture sooner. We must understand we are dealing with religious nuts just as dangerous and determined and the most vile jihadists. We have our own Christian jihadists here to deal with.
These religious organizations truly believe in religious rule. They believe that the Constitution was originally a religious document. They claim the founding fathers WERE religiously oriented in the first place.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028176134
You assholes do not believe in God. Why the rant? :whatever:
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1.) I remember the MSM claiming Reagan was a warmonger who would cause nuclear war. Didn't happen. Won't happen with Trump.
2.) Evidently TMN is so ignorant of theologically conservative Christians that he believes we all believe in a Dispensationalist, Pre-Millennial, Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Catholics do not. The Orthodox do not. Many Calvinists (e.g. Presbyterians) do not. Many (other) Evangelicals do not.
I wonder whether TMN's ever met and taken the time to understand a theologically conservative Christian. Well, no, I don't wonder.
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:thatsright: ........ Just :thatsright:
BREAKING NEWS: One Footed Boxer swings after bell for weeks. Incredulous opponent laughs himself into coma.
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:thatsright: ........ Just :thatsright:
BREAKING NEWS: One Footed Boxer swings after bell for weeks. Incredulous opponent laughs himself into coma.
And One Footed Boxer wins? :popcorn:
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Is there any denomination that thinks the Rapture can be produced by human activity?
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1.) I remember the MSM claiming Reagan was a warmonger who would cause nuclear war. Didn't happen. Won't happen with Trump.
2.) Evidently TMN is so ignorant of theologically conservative Christians that he believes we all believe in a Dispensationalist, Pre-Millennial, Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Catholics do not. The Orthodox do not. Many Calvinists (e.g. Presbyterians) do not. Many (other) Evangelicals do not.
I wonder whether TMN's ever met and taken the time to understand a theologically conservative Christian. Well, no, I don't wonder.
Remember it very well. It was everywhere. Didn't work and yes, a great many do not believe in the rapture.
Sorry, Bob. :tongue:
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Is there any denomination that thinks the Rapture can be produced by human activity?
Not that I'm aware of.
:clap:
You're still swinging, Bob.
Stop. Just stop and go back to the home.
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And One Footed Boxer wins? :popcorn:
Only in his mind. Refs called No Decision.
jberryhill (44,179 posts)
1. That is correct :rofl:
Not only are they enthralled by the idea of a global military conflict as being "good news", but they are also expressly warned to avoid anyone who appears to be seeking peace. :o
Their reasoning is that the Antichrist will appear to be an advocate for peace. Therefore, anyone who favors peace is an enemy. :o
It's a complete mind****.
:stoner: Idiot.
Well, look at this fresh faced noob:
CJohnson_LS (1 post)
4. My God, fundies are crazy
It's amazing how these RW Christian nuts go on and on about Islamic terrorists and Sharia law, yet they preach nonsense like this. No, they don't, new guy. Shouldn't you be cleaning shitters?
But that's the American Taliban for you. Totally brainwashed people.
:lmao:
Star Member Dreamer Tatum (10,394 posts)
5. Link, please. nt
We'll wait for that ...... :wink:
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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 03:17 PM
jberryhill (44,179 posts)
1. That is correct
Not only are they enthralled by the idea of a global military conflict as being "good news", but they are also expressly warned to avoid anyone who appears to be seeking peace.
Their reasoning is that the Antichrist will appear to be an advocate for peace. Therefore, anyone who favors peace is an enemy.
It's a complete mind****.
Keep in mind that in a relative sense this is one of the brighter primitives on the island. :lmao:
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Oh dear gawd, puh-leeze put Bob out of his misery.
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Bob, I'll tell ya what . . . Do what I did.
Go to YouTube. Type in this character string: hillary clinton nuclear war and watch the first 20 videos.
Then get back to us about just who would cause a nuclear war . . .
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Is there any denomination that thinks the Rapture can be produced by human activity?
GlobalDissapearing?
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Ah, the old "Vote Democrat or it's nuclear war for sures!!!!" Haven't seen them play that since oh, the last time Hillary ran that friggin' eternally-looping "He's gonna kill us all!!!" ad on TV this evening.
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Ah, now there's the Christophobic, bigoted sack of crap I remember! It had been a while since the last time TMN gave one of his anti- Christian rants in which he unwittingly reveals himself to be the true bigot who pretends to know what Christians believe based exclusively off of what Bill Maher and Seth MacFarlane tell him they believe.
"With Trump they get religious freedom to discriminate openly and viciously and if Trump causes WWIII they will get THEIR rapture sooner."
A double dose of idiocy in one sentence!
1. Christians do NOT want to discriminate against others, especially not "Openly and viciously": They simply seek the freedom to practice the basic teachings of their faith in peace and not have to worry about the government passing oppressive and unconstitutional laws which would force them to act against the dictates of their consciences and/ or the teachings of their faith (i.e. the government making it mandatory that Christian employers must pay for their employees' abortions as part of their health insurance plans).
2. As others here have noted, no Christian denomination (And certainly not the mainstream ones that at least 95% of American Christians belong to) believes that they can in any way influence when the Rapture will come.
" We must understand we are dealing with religious nuts just as dangerous and determined and the most vile jihadists."
Ah, so Christians who just seek to be able to practice their beliefs in peace (As the Constitution says they have the right to) and not have the government force them to act against those beliefs and the dictates of their consciences are apparently every bit as dangerous as ISIS barbarians sawing people's heads off and disfiguring women with acid.
Freaking idiot.
"We have our own Christian jihadists here to deal with."
When's the last time a Christian engaged in a bombing or mass murder?
"These religious organizations truly believe in religious rule."
Not really. We believe our country has a Christian heritage, and that we should again have the rights to practice our religious beliefs in peace.
"They believe that the Constitution was originally a religious document."
Nope, not really. I have no clue where you pulled that from.
" They claim the founding fathers WERE religiously oriented in the first place."
Well, what do you know: Amidst all your lies and straw men, you stumble upon a grain of truth!
We do believe that about the Founding Fathers, because history says that it was indeed the case. Nearly all of the Founding Fathers were indeed devout Christians, and even the ones that weren't as devout, such as Benjamin Franklin, conceded the importance of the Church in building a strong, moral, and just society. One of their main concerns in founding our country was indeed that we be able to worship freely and not have our basic beliefs infringed upon by government beaurocrats or ignorant bigots like TMN.
So, amidst all your hateful comments, you only produce one that has any truth behind it! Thank you for playing "Wallow in Your Bigotry and Ignorance and Spread Hateful Lies About Christians!" You've won that most cherished prize among ultra- liberals: Smug satisfaction that comes from imagining that you're somehow better and more enlightened than anyone who disagrees with you.
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Is there any denomination that thinks the Rapture can be produced by human activity?
Ignoring the likelihood that there is some sort of us-four-and-no-more (very) "out there" somewhere who does, no. The heyday of eschatological speculation was 30-50 years ago (Hal Lindsey, Salem Kirban, and several others), with somewhat of a revival of such speculation 10-20 years ago with LaHaye's Left Behind series of novels. It's a distinction I don't think TMN would notice or acknowledge, but the thinking of 60s-80s eschatology speculators was passive, seeing various events as signs the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming were imminent. Not active, as in, "If we do X, Y, and Z, can can make the Rapture happen sooner."
Further, their thinking was to warn people as to what was coming, in the hope that people would become believers (and thus escaping horrible things through the Rapture), not hoping to somehow hasten the End, which would result in fewer becoming believers and being Raptured out of the horrible last 7 years of Tribulation. There is a sort of Blood Libel (metaphor alert) out therein some Jewish circles and, evidently, some Prog circles that Christians who believe in some version of Dispensational eschatology look forward to the slaughter such eschatologies envision happening in the final years before Jesus' Second Coming. Having been in such circles for over 4 decades, I can say from what I've seen that this is libelously false.
TMN is not speaking of any real Christians he's met or whose writings he's perused. He's concocted in his malignant imagination what he imagines Christians should be like, and therefore are. It is those bogeyish figments of his malignant imagination that he condemns. What compounds the sadness of what he has made himself in this respect is that few, if any, DU-folk know any better. I don't wander in there very often, but I doubt any who know better care to speak up about reality, leaving other DU-folk to think TMN knows what he is talking about.
I don't mind at all being criticized for real faults, but TMN's rants are :urmeds: grade.
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Ignoring the likelihood that there is some sort of us-four-and-no-more (very) "out there" somewhere who does, no. The heyday of eschatological speculation was 30-50 years ago (Hal Lindsey, Salem Kirban, and several others), with somewhat of a revival of such speculation 10-20 years ago with LaHaye's Left Behind series of novels. It's a distinction I don't think TMN would notice or acknowledge, but the thinking of 60s-80s eschatology speculators was passive, seeing various events as signs the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming were imminent. Not active, as in, "If we do X, Y, and Z, can can make the Rapture happen sooner."
Further, their thinking was to warn people as to what was coming, in the hope that people would become believers (and thus escaping horrible things through the Rapture), not hoping to somehow hasten the End, which would result in fewer becoming believers and being Raptured out of the horrible last 7 years of Tribulation. There is a sort of Blood Libel (metaphor alert) out therein some Jewish circles and, evidently, some Prog circles that Christians who believe in some version of Dispensational eschatology look forward to the slaughter such eschatologies envision happening in the final years before Jesus' Second Coming. Having been in such circles for over 4 decades, I can say from what I've seen that this is libelously false.
TMN is not speaking of any real Christians he's met or whose writings he's perused. He's concocted in his malignant imagination what he imagines Christians should be like, and therefore are. It is those bogeyish figments of his malignant imagination that he condemns. What compounds the sadness of what he has made himself in this respect is that few, if any, DU-folk know any better. I don't wander in there very often, but I doubt any who know better care to speak up about reality, leaving other DU-folk to think TMN knows what he is talking about.
I don't mind at all being criticized for real faults, but TMN's rants are :urmeds: grade.
Exactly and all the DUllards have to do is actually read the Bible if they want to know about it.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:36
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Tue Sep 20, 2016, 03:17 PM
jberryhill (44,179 posts)
1. That is correct
Not only are they enthralled by the idea of a global military conflict as being "good news", but they are also expressly warned to avoid anyone who appears to be seeking peace.
Their reasoning is that the Antichrist will appear to be an advocate for peace. Therefore, anyone who favors peace is an enemy.
I don't want to know from what part of his/her torso this nonsense was pulled! Christians have no problem at all with peace, in the sense a lack of war or near-war conflict. In Dispensational eschatology - keep in mind that this is a minority POV, even if defined broadly - The Antichrist is viewed as a false messiah, one who opposes the true God and will set himself up as a substitute Christ ("anti" means both substitute and opposition) to rule the world for his own glory. While it is commonly thought in such circles that The Antichrist will temporarily bring political peace, what is opposed are The Antichrist's efforts to be viewed as a god and his oppressive means to power and governance. In metaphoric (actually, a simile) historical terms, The Antichrist would be like a Hitler or Stalin who succeeded on a global scale, including the murderous oppression of those he hates and perceives as opponents.
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TMN is not speaking of any real Christians he's met or whose writings he's perused. He's concocted in his malignant imagination what he imagines Christians should be like, and therefore are.
Exactly. Using the above, delete Christians and insert most anything non-LIbEral and you describe these unhinged infants perfectly.
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Exactly. Using the above, delete Christians and insert most anything non-LIbEral and you describe these unhinged infants perfectly.
Absolutely, and they pay royalties to TMN for using his technique. It's much easier than rubbing shoulders with real (category of bogeymen here) and understanding who they are and what they really believe and do.
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Oh dear gawd, puh-leeze put Bob out of his misery.
The pogo stick is bouncing all around.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:19 AM
TheMastersNemesis (5,809 posts)
Poor & Sick GOP & Trump Voters Deserve Their Misery Because They Refuse To Listen.
If you are poor and sick and still vote GOP you deserve to stay that way. And if you die in the process because you cannot get health care it is your decision. And you get little sympathy from me. You are willing to take the US and everyone else down because of your stubbornness to stay ignorant, racist and stupid.
What is worse is that you want to take everything away from others because you don't have the benefits of health care or a decent job or education. You let your racism, bigotry and blindness to shape your decisions. So you can just stay in your pig sty.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028177585
Only on the island would watching a persons descent into madness be celebrated.
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The pogo stick is bouncing all around.
Only on the island would watching a persons descent into madness be celebrated.
Either hid wife needs to get him the same model of laptop Dilbert's boss has, or DU's PTB's need to exile TMN to a "safe place" where only he and fellow exiles see his posts.
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I wonder if headlines like One Escapes in Foot Pursuit make Ol' Bob cry.