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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Patriot Guard Rider on December 12, 2015, 07:34:00 AM
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What is amazing to me regarding Sanders is, no one outside of the far loony left is on his bandwagon, and they've convinced themselves THEY are the majority opinion. When all you do is live in an echo chamber, the same voices are all you hear. It's easy to see why they think like that, but the amount of angst, despair and depression when he drops out is going to really be a sight to see.
They can tell themselves there are Republicans that are jumping on his bandwagon, but honestly, IF there are, they were never Republican in the first place. I simply can't see those who are for smaller government and lower taxes backing a guy who will triple the national debt to pay for his programs, while increasing taxes to the point of killing off what's left of the middle class.
Now, these DUmmies are convinced THEY won't have to pay additional taxes simply because THEY will be on the receiving end of all these new programs AND because they earn so little they don't have the money to contribute. Much like the DUmmies are finding out how much obamacare costs, and are shocked at increasing premiums and deductibles to the point they can no longer afford the affordable care act, they'll be shocked when THEY have to pony up to pay for all their free stuff, which will be expensive beyond imagination.
I remember having a conversation with fellow conservatives back before we had to pass it to see what was in it, and we knew this would happen. We knew there was no way you could provide insurance for an additional 30,000,000 people AND drop rates. The liberals who were in the discussion poo-poo'd us, saying since everyone had to enroll, there would be more than enough money. I remember us telling the liberals that people wouldn't sign up for care until they got sick, then stay on it long enough to get treatment, then drop out (and pay the smaller fine compared to monthly premiums). Again, we were poo-poo'd, but we knew we had won the argument when they started calling us racists (name calling is the last defense they had).
Well, old rumple hair is going to take them, and us, down the same road, if he wins, despite our warnings but the Bernbots aren't listening. The definition of an idiot is someone who does the same thing over and over expecting different results.
They are convinced he's going to win.
They are convinced it will finally be utopia because THEY know how to implement socialism the right way.
They are convinced it will be heaven on earth.
I'm convinced the crash and bern will be epic, and I. Can't. Wait.
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I'd like to see him do well enough in some of the early primaries to keep the hope alive. I wouldn't even object this going all the way to the Dem convention, though I doubt it will. The main interest is seeing how many primitives either get the boot or decide to leave. I can't imagine a mannygoldstein, willyt, sabrina, or cali primitive sticking around after all the nasty things they've said about her, but then again they're just stupid enough to do so.
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I'd like to see him do well enough in some of the early primaries to keep the hope alive. I wouldn't even object this going all the way to the Dem convention, though I doubt it will. The main interest is seeing how many primitives either get the boot or decide to leave. I can't imagine a mannygoldstein, willyt, sabrina, or cali primitive sticking around after all the nasty things they've said about her, but then again they're just stupid enough to do so.
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I agree. Give them hope before the carpet is pulled out from under them. The longer he stays in, the bigger and louder the crash will be.
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I dunno how realistic this hope is, but I'm hoping Methuselah runs a third-party ticket.
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I dunno how realistic this hope is, but I'm hoping Methuselah runs a third-party ticket.
I don't think that'll happen, but it would be nice.
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I dunno how realistic this hope is, but I'm hoping Methuselah runs a third-party ticket.
Not likely - but I do expect a whole bunch of write-ins from pissed off bernouts.
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I'd like to see him do well enough in some of the early primaries to keep the hope alive. I wouldn't even object this going all the way to the Dem convention, though I doubt it will. The main interest is seeing how many primitives either get the boot or decide to leave. I can't imagine a mannygoldstein, willyt, sabrina, or cali primitive sticking around after all the nasty things they've said about her, but then again they're just stupid enough to do so.
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It will be fun when the bern becomes a smoldering ruins this true. Another advantage of keeping the bernster and the big dumb O' in the race as long as possible will reduce the chance of DUmmies in late primary states registering as Republicans to vote for an establishment guy.
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It will be fun when the bern becomes a smoldering ruins this true. Another advantage of keeping the bernster and the big dumb O' in the race as long as possible will reduce the chance of DUmmies in late primary states registering as Republicans to vote for an establishment guy.
This is true. I for one am sick of Dems registering to vote in the R primary and picking our candidate for us. The longer Bern stays in, it forces the Dems to vote in their own.
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I would not rule out Bernie Sanders getting nominated. I think he still has a better chance than Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden might jump in. Martin O'Malley cannot be ruled out.
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AND because they earn so little they don't have the money to contribute.
In his beloved Den-Mock, even the lower middle class pays 60% tax, and everybody has to pay the exorbitant VAT tax. It's a wonder they can feed themselves.
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I dunno how realistic this hope is, but I'm hoping Methuselah runs a third-party ticket.
It's a shame the Bull Moose party was already taken.
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In his beloved Den-Mock, even the lower middle class pays 60% tax, and everybody has to pay the exorbitant VAT tax. It's a wonder they can feed themselves.
You don't understand. Bernie will know how to implement socialism the right way so no one making under $x.xx (whatever that number is), will have to pay INTO the system, they only collect OUT of the system. Every experiment ever in socialism has failed. But we'll do it right this time.
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Ronulans and Sandernistas are cut from the same cloth. Once Bern-out Bernie goes down for the count the Sandernista Army will desert in droves. How many Ronulans supported anyone other than their man Ron? Darn few and it will be ditto with the Sandernistas. It might also be compared to 1968 Chicago, where a young idealistic generation of new voters met old time political reality. A clash of cultures is never pretty and it is what the millennial generation has coming on the Democratic side of the aisle
Not going fun to be them but certainly will be fun to watch.
Hillary's machine will eat them alive and spit out the assholes. :lol:
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When he starts losing states to Hitlary how long before they blame the voting machines? You know, the ones rigged by the Republicans. The line will be the Republicans were afraid of Bernie so they rigged the machines against him.
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What are they expecting? The man is 89 freaking years old. Chances are he wouldn't even survive his first term. No one in the DNC would even want to chance him dropping dead in office.
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The Bern needs a running mate. Who?
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I would not rule out Bernie Sanders getting nominated. I think he still has a better chance than Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden might jump in. Martin O'Malley cannot be ruled out.
I would. One word:
Superdelegates.
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I would. One word:
Superdelegates.
But one has to keep in mind that one or two things have a realistic likelihood of happening--after all, there's plenty of time yet--which would change the dynamics. Just one of these things may yet happen.....or both of them.
The worthier candidate finally at long last gets into really serious trouble, forcing her withdrawal, voluntary or involuntary, from the race, or Methuselah, as all men must, croaks from old age.
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The Bern needs a running mate. Who?
Elizabeth Warren, obviously. Two kooks in a pod.
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Now, these DUmmies are convinced THEY won't have to pay additional taxes simply because THEY will be on the receiving end of all these new programs AND because they earn so little they don't have the money to contribute.
In his beloved Den-Mock, even the lower middle class pays 60% tax, and everybody has to pay the exorbitant VAT tax. It's a wonder they can feed themselves.
Only with Government aid. :whatever:
These idiots don't even understand the taxes they pay now, much less adding a VAT. The Value-added Tax is a perfect example of this. "We're not going to have to pay that". It's on EVERYTHING you idiots. Every product, every service .... EVERYTHING. Even the toilet paper that will soon become an ever scarcer commodity.
On top of the Utopian slop he's already proposed that will increase the current unsustainable debt by a factor 3, he wants to implement a draconian carbon reduction plan that will kill off most of the remaining industry in this country. Jobs? From where? How are you going to employ all of your imported (D)emocrats?
:banghead: :banghead:
:bigbird:, you idiots.
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Elizabeth Warren, obviously. Two kooks in a pod.
:thumbs: Perfect. Steve Dawes could beat that pair.
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That pretty well nails it. Except I would change the label on Lucy to "DNC" or "Dem Party Elites."
Actually I have a pretty wide circle of friends, including some union stalwarts, academics, college students, teachers, etc., as well as military, legal professionals, and a bunch of VRWC guys and gals. NONE of the lifelong Dems are big Hillary supporters, they all think she is more crooked than a snake that took three trips though a lawnmower (Not that they wouldn't pull the lever for her, if it came down to her or Trump). For the most part they really are big Bernie supporters. I can't help thinking he actually has a higher level of popular, committed support than the polls are reflecting,
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I hate to spring this thought on my fellow cavers, but I think the first Dem candidate to offer Clinnochio the bottom of the presidential ticket will receive an enthusiastic yes.
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I hate to spring this thought on my fellow cavers, but I think the first Dem candidate to offer Clinnochio the bottom of the presidential ticket will receive an enthusiastic yes.
Then Jeb better get to work lining Clinnochio up. They're both Dems although one has a R after his name.
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I hate to spring this thought on my fellow cavers, but I think the first Dem candidate to offer Clinnochio the bottom of the presidential ticket will receive an enthusiastic yes.
He is the most popular Dem alive, but he is ineligible.
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He is the most popular Dem alive, but he is ineligible.
As veep?
CMD
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As veep?
CMD
That would be interesting. Would Clinocchio be elevated to the Presidency, seeing that the 22nd Amendment allows for someone to serve two years as President after serving eight years? Then who?
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Despite Hillary with approximately at 60/30 advantage in Iowa in polling, there is FAR more of a ground swell of support for Crazy Uncle Bernie here. Remember, she wants to be coronated, and not have to campaign, especially at farms & small towns in Iowa. She thinks it is beneath her.
I suspect that Sanders has still a slight possibility of winning Iowa. Since New Hampshire is essentially in his backyard, he could certainly win there. Then the media narrative would change to "what's wrong with Hillary?". That would be kind of fun.
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That would be interesting. Would Clinocchio be elevated to the Presidency, seeing that the 22nd Amendment allows for someone to serve two years as President after serving eight years? Then who?
Gerald Ford's succession to the Presidency is the most likely possibility. A procedure to appoint a non-elected VP to the vacancy in that office, who would then succeed to the Presidency when the (Formerly-VP) President Clinocchio is forced to resign in turn by operation of the 22nd Amendment...but it would only arise in the unlikely event that the elected President became unable to complete his or her term.
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As veep?
CMD
Yes.
The last sentence of the Twelfth Amendment says, "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Clenis had his two full terms as POTUS. He is ineligible to be elected or appointed VP.
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Then Jeb better get to work lining Clinnochio up. They're both Dems although one has a R after his name.
That would be an interesting ticket.
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Then Jeb better get to work lining Clinnochio up. They're both Dems although one has a R after his name.
Who is this Jeb you speak of I know of a "Jeb!", but no Jeb.
Jeb! Jeb! ::)
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As veep?
CMD
Yep ineligible. Part of the Veep requirements is that the candidate is also eligible to be President. Bubba isn't.
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He is the most popular Dem alive, but he is ineligible.
I'm not sure of the legalities, but there are legal minds who have opined that he would be eligible for VP, and if he had to step into the presidency he would be limited to 2 years in that position.
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Who is this Jeb you speak of I know of a "Jeb!", but no Jeb.
Jeb! Jeb! ::)
Sorry. I should have specified Senor Jeb, he who will make Mexico great again.
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Sorry. I should have specified Senor Jeb, he who will make Mexico great again.
Jeb!
The exclamation point makes him exciting.
Jeb!
For our spanish speaking lurkers, thats:
¡Jeb!
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I'm not sure of the legalities, but there are legal minds who have opined that he would be eligible for VP, and if he had to step into the presidency he would be limited to 2 years in that position.
I am certainly no legal mind, but speaking as a black Basset hound named Dewey, the last sentence of the 12th Amendment looks pretty unambiguous to me.