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Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:03 PM
Star Member Systematic Chaos (8,601 posts)
News of my death are
Not exaggerated. Yesterday I died (as posted by his wife), apparently peacefully and in little to no pain, while sleeping.
On Wednesday, Kirk was given a new pain medication script. Since he was in quite a lot of pain for quite a while, he chose to take the last of his hoarded stash of pain pills that he had received nearly two months prior, when discharged from the long term stay Nursing/rehab facility he had been in for months. He had recently also been experiencing more issues with waking up while sleeping, due to problems breathing, caused by sleep apnea. He had just taken a sleep study which confirmed that he needed a bi-pap, but it would take a week or two (at the time) before they would be able to get the results to a doctor, so that he could get a new machine. It's my opinion that, due to the small amount of pain pills that he took, he became so relaxed (from lack of pain) that he was unable to wake up when he stopped breathing while sleeping. I was dozing in a chair nearby, and thought it strange that it was so quiet. However, I was so tired that I ended up falling back to sleep before investigating. It wasn't until I woke up a second time and it was still too quiet. I became alarmed and checked on him. It was too late, he had been dead too long for emergency personnel to revive him.
I have located a recent video and picture of him, peacefully smiling at me a very special smile that he reserved for me alone. The video was regarding a power chair he was going to return, but it's a voice and image that I can keep forever to remember him by. I still don't know what I'm going to do, but I at least have the comfort of knowing that I can likely get assistance with getting him cremated. A friend of ours has already offered to let me stay with him while I get myself stabilized, so my cats and I have a roof when our rent comes due for July. I hope that Kirk has been helpful to people in this thread, and anyone is welcome to link this to any thread where this would be of interest.
Kirk appeared here and received valid advice on his physical condition,which he mostly ignored.
His long misused wife also did and do wish condolences for her.
Regardless of the entire situation she did love him and was cordial here so am sorry for your sadness.
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Yeah, condolences to Jeanette.
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NanceGreggs (16,586 posts) Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:27 PM
10. My deepest sympathies.
My own husband passed two weeks ago, so I have a sense of what you are dealing with.
It does get easier - little by little, day by day. Don't be afraid to rely on friends and family, or to ask for help when needed. I have found that my friends are anxious to be of assistance; it is their way of honouring their friendship with him as well.
By the way, I went and checked.
Two weeks after the JeffR primitive's deceasement, he still isn't in the primitive morgue.
One wonders what the hold-up there's with that, and if the late Las Vegas Leviathan will have to wait as long.
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By the way, I went and checked.
Two weeks after the JeffR primitive's deceasement, he still isn't in the primitive morgue.
One wonders what the hold-up there's with that, and if the late Las Vegas Leviathan will have to wait as long.
Mr Moskwa,aka David Allen *Skinner* regards his spawn with more disgust and disdain then one does with something they would quickly scrape off the bottom of their shoe.
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I'll bet the LVL shows up in the Dead DUmmy forum before NanceGreggs allegedly dead husband.
The LVL never made an anti-Hildebeast comment.
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RIP Kirk. Condolences to his wife.
I hope they take special precautions so that the crematorium doesn't catch on fire when they render him to ashes.
http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory (http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/)
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RIP Kirk. Condolences to his wife.
I hope they take special precautions so that the crematorium doesn't catch on fire when they render him to ashes.
http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory (http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/)
Yeah, instantly when I read this is what the grieving widow wants done, I got concerned about that possibility too.
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Yeah, instantly when I read this is what the grieving widow wants done, I got concerned about that possibility too.
The timing could hardly be better.
This could serve as a valuable trial run for processing the Big Guy.
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I feel terrible for his wife. She has endured a lot up to this point & she is definitely in my prayers as she feels the grief settle in her soul.
It sounds like Kirk's laziness continued until he was too lazy to keep breathing. The narcotic overdose did not help matters.
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Kirk paid the price for his self inflicted disability lifestyle. He lived in misery and died the same way.
Kirk was one of the few from DU who came here, and actually talked with us.
Rest in peace
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It was bound to happen eventually.
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He had recently also been experiencing more issues with waking up while sleeping, due to problems breathing, caused by sleep apnea. He had just taken a sleep study which confirmed that he needed a bi-pap, but it would take a week or two (at the time) before they would be able to get the results to a doctor, so that he could get a new machine.
Am I the only one that smells a setup?
Liberal to the end.
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Am I the only one that smells a setup?
Liberal to the end.
Kirk was already dying one piece at a time, first they buried part of his leg. I wonder how they were able to move that body? I hope his wife gets help with the rent as they will be taking back Kirk's last disability check that was just deposited on the 3rd. I suspect a go fund me page soon.
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He had the guts to come over here and attempt to defend himself (badly). I will give him kudos for that and my condolences go out to his long-suffering wife.
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Cremate....ain't that a little hippocritical...deny the worms a meal and feed globull warming by polluting the atmosphere?
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Cremate....ain't that a little hippocritical...deny the worms a meal and feed globull warming by polluting the atmosphere?
His 'carbon "footprint (pun intended)"' will go up markedly. :whistling:
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His 'carbon "footprint (pun intended)"' will go up markedly. :whistling:
Well, at least it's half of what it would have been.
Really though, my condolences to the family and friends.
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His 'carbon "footprint (pun intended)"' will go up markedly. :whistling:
Now the shoe is on the other side's other foot.
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It was bound to happen eventually.
Yeah, but ODing on hoarded pain pills would have been near the bottom of the list. It would have been near the top for most other DUmmies but I had LVL the victim of a massive stroke followed by a heart attack.
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What is it with DUmmies running to DU just mere hours after the death of a loved one?
Do they actually believe that they were real life friends or something?
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Yeah, but ODing on hoarded pain pills would have been near the bottom of the list. It would have been near the top for most other DUmmies but I had LVL the victim of a massive stroke followed by a heart attack.
You know, the late Tangerine LaBamba apparently did this herself, purposely overdosing on pain pills.
And it's only speculative, but it looks as if Chief S itting Bull, the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive, may have done this sort of thing, although some of us more in the know still think he jammed the barrel of a revolver into his big mouth.
So this sounds eminently credible, that the Las Vegas Leviathan, either on purpose or by mistake, overdosed himself on pain-killers.
Now, while one hopes this sort of thing doesn't happen to certain primitives such as the always-medicating Big Mo, one wouldn't especially mind if it happened to the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive or Ms. Hindenberg, the defrocked warped primitive.
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One wonders why suicide is so common amongst a group of people who claim they are so much smarter than us? You would think such smart people would have solved their problems and be lording their success over mere mortals.
Maybe a life of doing nothing, while living on Govt handouts gives one a sense of worthlessness?
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One wonders why suicide is so common amongst a group of people who claim they are so much smarter than us? You would think such smart people would have solved their problems and be lording their success over mere mortals.
Maybe a life of doing nothing, while living on Govt handouts gives one a sense of worthlessness?
That's a good point. H5.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
Oh boo ****ing hoo you DUmbass. Look at the way you DUmb****s act when a conservative or someone with a "R" at the end of their name passes away and then you have the balls to come here and complain when we do a lot less when one of yours passes? You're a ****ing hypocrite. You DUmbasses are my enemy and the enemy of America. I celebrate anytime one of you slugs shuffle off this mortal coil, hopefully in the most painful and lingering way possible, and will do so in this case. It's truly what you and your ilk deserve. As for the LVL's wife? I hope she suffers greatly and ultimately takes the cowards way out like her waste of skin husband did.
And now a video to commemorate LVL's passing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
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Another deadbeat pops in.
No one made the LVL a spectacle but himself.
We simply enjoyed the show.
The DUmp is a collection of freaks, packed with weird creatures like sideshows at a county fair.
Their lives serve no real purpose beyond entertainment for normal people.
A few of them excel at that, so I guess that's at least one achievement.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
Oh now, madam, don't get bent out of shape.
It's understandable you might be a little irate because other people never put Kirk on some sort of pedestal like his fans on Skins's island did, but on the other hand, if you "search" all the Las Vegas Leviathan threads in the archives here--and there's tons of them--you'll have to search awful hard to find any bashing Kirk's wife. There's a few, but one has to look for them, much as one would look for a needle in a haystack.
We're nice people here, and the near-unanimous sentiment, while wholly different about Kirk, is good wishes for Jeanette, the innocent victim of a man's ego.
Kirk is dead, much as franksolich and the big guy in Bellevue the Omaha Steve primitive, and Wills the William769 primitive, will be sooner or later, and there's nothing any more in this time and place that can hurt or harm or injure or distress Kirk.
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The DUmmie can spare me the scolding, after the despicable grave dancing they do over there whenever someone with an R after their name passes away.
I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
1) Bullsh!t. DUmmies like you invented grave dancing.
2) We were kind to him when he showed up. People here offered him guaranteed jobs, Kirk turned them down to continue his disability lifestyle.
3) He turned away from every bit of advice.
4) His suffering was a result of his poor life choices.
5) He committed suicide. another poor life choice.
6) Yes his wife is hurting. Love make people blind to reality. She worked and slaved while he spent all day playing WOW. I'm sad for her loss, but I am also glad because now her life can begin again without a deadbeat anchor weighing her down.
Conclusion: Tossing a guilt trip does nothing when the deceased brought all his suffering upon himself.
Bite me, Auntie
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That's a good point. H5.
That's a good high five. H5 !
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
Now I never go over to DU, mainly because of the batshit insane forum format they use. It's tough on the eyes.
But, I do get to see posts from DU over here and there are many of them.
So spare me your damn crocodile tears. Why in the hell should I mourn the passing of some asshole who willfully and probably gleefully took part in dismantling this country that I love? From what I've seen his problems were the results of his own actions over the course of a lifetime. Then, instead of facing up to those problems after refusing help from people here at the Cave and probably even DU, he takes his own life. That was his decision and not our problem.
I don't grave dance here. But I'll be damned if some liberal prick like you is going to come over here and try to guilt myself or any member of the Cave into feeling sorry for any of you leftist trash.
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1) Bullsh!t. DUmmies like you invented grave dancing.
2) We were kind to him when he showed up. People here offered him guaranteed jobs, Kirk turned them down to continue his disability lifestyle.
3) He turned away from every bit of advice.
4) His suffering was a result of his poor life choices.
5) He committed suicide. another poor life choice.
6) Yes his wife is hurting. Love make people blind to reality. She worked and slaved while he spent all day playing WOW. I'm sad for her loss, but I am also glad because now her life can begin again without a deadbeat anchor weighing her down.
Conclusion: Tossing a guilt trip does nothing when the deceased brought all his suffering upon himself.
Bite me, Auntie
He knew his problem, but chose to wallow in it. There are going to be consequences for that.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
No,idiot...people here endlessly offered kind advice to Jeanette on how Kirk could move to a healthy diet and also ways he could increase activity.
We also have expressed great contempt for the way he treated and used her as not much more then a slave.
Interactions with him when he was here were a broad spectrum but the one constant was that he never would accept any advice that meant he had to change many of his ways.
You don`t know a ****ing thing about what you think you do so piss off.
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Who would have known.. Kesha is a Dummy!!
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Dear aA kesha,
Nice try, but you are not dealing with the mentally and emotionally stunted here like you do at the DUmp.
But please do try again.
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No,idiot...people here endlessly offered kind advice to Jeanette on how Kirk could move to a healthy diet and also ways he could increase activity.
We also have expressed great contempt for the way he treated and used her as not much more then a slave.
Interactions with him when he was here were a broad spectrum but the one constant was that he never would accept any advice that meant he had to change many of his ways.
You don`t know a ****ing thing about what you think you do so piss off.
Are any of those threads available to show just what went on here when LVL came here?
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Are any of those threads available to show just what went on here when LVL came here?
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81359.0
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81605.0
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81983.0
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=82016.0
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=93916.0
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Kirk will be missed.
I will miss making fun of his pathetic liberal life.
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Are any of those threads available to show just what went on here when LVL came here?
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81605.msg1000279#msg1000279
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=38018.0
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Thanks Chris, This is the one I remember the best.
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81605.0
Kirk turned down every job and bit of advice...and the excuses were endless.
I initially welcomed him to CC, but had to write him off as a professional leech.
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Lets see... do I give a shit?
(http://www.theathertons.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/normandy-american-cemetery.jpg)
Nope.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track.
Sorry dummie. From where I sit, Kirk did not try very hard at anything except making excuses. People here tried to help him. Gave him good advice. Gave him some leads on a couple of jobs if I remember correctly.
All they got in return was excuses why he couldn't. That type of behavior is the exact reason why some here come down hard on him. And you.
Seems excuses is all you dummies got as to the reason for your failures... and then you people try to tell us we are stupid? Voting against our best interests? Heartless?
I'll tell you what heartless is, you worthless puke. Taking money out of my pocket, money that I worked damned hard for, money taken by threat of imprisonment, money that I could use to the betterment of my family, and giving it to worthless pukes like yourself so you can sit on your collectives asses all day and make comments on a message board.
Now that is heartless you worthless puke. And your little corner of the internet is infested with that type of people. So as far as I am concerned you and your ilk can **** off and die.
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Is Kesha Smalley his wife?
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
Jeanette deserves condolences, and I offer them. Kirk deserves nothing but what he got. His death was entirely self-inflicted, just as if he had put a gun in his mouth.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk volunteered the information, and answered questions voluntarily, if not honestly. His "grace and intelligence" is more accurately described as "trying make excuses for his poor choices".
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track.
I had no idea Kirk was an aspiring rapper who was going to get a GED, so he could support his 5 children by 5 baby mamas- just as soon as he got off the crack and stopped robbing convenience stores. Those are the only dead guys who are allowed to be described as "trying to get his life back on track".
He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I have a news flash for you, dear DUmmy. Love is not expressed by forcing your wife to work to support your bad choices, and killing yourself a little every day. Love is not expressed by leeching off of the taxpayers, and refusing to do anything to make yourself a better man, and to make life better for yourself and your wife.
Kirk didn't love Jeanette, he used her.
The rest of your post is meaningless blah, blah, blah.
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One of the most lasting memories of the LVL is his description of his freaky flipper feet.
Size 15EEEEEEE. Same size as a Papa John's pizza box.
He used them as one of his many excuses for avoiding gainful employment. No shoes, no job.
Why shouldn't he? He had premium video games to play, and a wife he could send out to work every day.
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I actually thought Kirk died a few months ago instead of last week. You could just tell both of them were beyond help.
Is Kesha Smalley his wife?
Denny and Kesha are divorced now, according to the DUmp gossip.
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I actually thought Kirk died a few months ago instead of last week. You could just tell both of them were beyond help.
Denny and Kesha are divorced now, according to the DUmp gossip.
I just noticed that she's commenting on old videos that he posted on YouTube to respond to conservative cave.
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I just noticed that she's commenting on old videos that he posted on YouTube to respond to conservative cave.
What the heck?
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
Like a typical DUmp democrat, the difference between what you "know" and reality could be measured in Astral Units.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives.
We made a mockery of their lives? Someone who had a youtube channel (which you clearly know about) documenting their whining and bullshit didn't make a mockery of their own life?
Arrogant and stupid is no way to go through life, DUmbass.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track.
Yeah? Are you sure?
I'll also post it here...
Kirk, if you want to start being a productive member of society, I can help you get a nice paying job with good benefits in Las Vegas/Henderson.
Kirk?? I'm dead serious... I can help you get a job. Interested??
Why do you keep ignoring someone who is trying to help you earn money?
Look, weight loss or no weight loss I am still a medical basket case. If I could go back to a job and get what would certainly be more than what I currently get in disability, I'd be a much happier man.
Jeanette would love to get in with your company once she knows that she won't end up unable to continue getting her valley fever treated. Better to stay on assistance for a bit longer and get over that...
I just want you to understand that I'm not ignoring you and would love to see Jeanette working in a safe environment for a decent paycheck. I'd love that for myself too, but the necessary medical intervention to get me literally and figuratively back on my feet is sadly not forthcoming at this time.
If I get work, and the work offers insurance, I have to take it, and I lose this 'insurance' that I currently receive.
He loved his wife and she loved him.
He used her, and she enabled him. That's not love, that's sickness.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Yet, here you are...
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long.
Kirk: The user, the leach, the very ill at his own hands. I only hope Jeanette is able to improve her circumstances without him weighing her down.
In closing, suck it DUmp rat. Crawl back into your hole and remember that you don't know shit, never knew shit, and will never figure shit out for as long as you're a member of $kinner's internet Mogadishu.
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I just noticed that she's commenting on old videos that he posted on YouTube to respond to conservative cave.
He had a youtube channel??
OMG... :thatsright:
Well, I suppose it would be better than watching half the shit that's on cable...........
:stoner:
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He had a youtube channel??
And this DUmbass is trying to finger wag at us for making his life a spectacle.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
Do you really want to go down this road kesha?
You're gonna really embarrass yourself if you insist on playing this game.
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The DUmmie can spare me the scolding, after the despicable grave dancing they do over there whenever someone with an R after their name passes away.
I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
We've never had the wife of a Presidential candidate come into any of our threads and scold us for the evil things we were saying about someone with cancer.
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Who would have known.. Kesha is a Dummy!!
I knew he/she/it was from her posts at DU jr
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Denny? Kesha? Ke$ha?
Must be pretty obscure DUmmies. No idea who they are.
When Kesha dies, no one will care enough to laugh.
Maybe that'll make her feel better.
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The DUmmie can spare me the scolding, after the despicable grave dancing they do over there whenever someone with an R after their name passes away.
I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
liberals always carefully craft their facts before opining. They dance on graves and piss on tombstones and have the audacity to wag their little lying bony progressive fingers when we celebrate that the world gets one person better by subtraction of a libtard.
It is hard to decide what is more breathtaking -- the audacity, the condescension or the hypocrisy. Let's go with all three.
Too bad for the wife. I do have prayers for her.
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The DUmmie can spare me the scolding, after the despicable grave dancing they do over there whenever someone with an R after their name passes away.
I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
I generally try to speak sympathetically regarding the family of the deceased, unless the deceased was a Saddam Hussein type individual. Otherwise I just shut up. That said, I don't have a problem with CCers' posts I've seen in this thread. They're honest about what the deceased did with and to himself, and sympathetic to his widow.
Your phrase, "the despicable grave dancing," is, IMO, a bit too kind re Lib/Prog grave-dancing. It was an eye-opener for me, some years ago, to see some of the venom they spewed after the death of Bob Hope, whose "crime" was bringing a taste of home to Americans fighting in Vietnam. I didn't invest much time wading through the venom - too disgusting - but I don't recall any Libs/Progs reproving their co-ideologues for their hatefulness.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014389088#post2
Go **** yourself.
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The DUmmie can spare me the scolding, after the despicable grave dancing they do over there whenever someone with an R after their name passes away.
I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
You had not posted on this thread when she posted. Your wish has come true: you were spared the scolding.
Now I never go over to DU, mainly because of the batshit insane forum format they use. It's tough on the eyes.
But, I do get to see posts from DU over here and there are many of them.
So spare me your damn crocodile tears... Why in the hell should I mourn the passing of some asshole who willfully and probably gleefully took part in dismantling this country that I love? From what I've seen his problems were the results of his own actions over the course of a lifetime. Then, instead of facing up to those problems after refusing help from people here at the Cave and probably even DU, he takes his own life. That was his decision and not our problem.
I don't grave dance here. But I'll be damned if some liberal prick like you is going to come over here and try to guilt myself or any member of the Cave into feeling sorry for any of you leftist trash.
Nice. "I don't grave dance, but you and your widow friend can eat sh*t and die!"
You're a credit to your kind.
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Like a typical DUmp democrat, the difference between what you "know" and reality could be measured in Astral Units.
...DUmbass... Crawl back into your hole and remember that you don't know shit, never knew shit, and will never figure shit out for as long as you're a member of $kinner's internet Mogadishu.
No such thing as an "astral unit". I'd be careful about flashing that level of ignorance in the middle of a rant decrying how stupid someone is.
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You had not posted on this thread when she posted. Your wish has come true: you were spared the scolding.
Nice. "I don't grave dance, but you and your widow friend can eat sh*t and die!"
You're a credit to your kind.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=268098
You can go **** yourself as well.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives...
Well, although your comments drew out the worst of the worst in this place, my feeling was that, prior to your comments, most of the responses to the OP (and the OP itself) were pretty respectful.
I think you would have been better served targeting your ire towards those guilty in your eyes rather than using such a broad brush.
Or, better yet, thanking those who had been respectful and ignoring the deplorable reprobates.
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No such thing as an "astral unit". I'd be careful about flashing that level of ignorance in the middle of a rant decrying how stupid someone is.
Now now Buzzy, wouldn't you feel better spending time on more important matters, like commiserating with Sheshe and Cha on how President boyfriend doesn't get the love he deserves?
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Well, although your comments drew out the worst of the worst in this place, my feeling was that, prior to your comments, most of the responses to the OP (and the OP itself) were pretty respectful.
I think you would have been better served targeting your ire towards those guilty in your eyes rather than using such a broad brush.
Or, better yet, thanking those who had been respectful and ignoring the deplorable reprobates.
If by worst of the worst you mean you, then spot on.
I'd be willing to bet anything you didn't read one link provided before condemning with your judgmental assertions.
I thought you libs didn't like people who were judgmental.
That's just one reason you are the worst of the worst.
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Sorry dummie. From where I sit, Kirk did not try very hard at anything except making excuses. People here tried to help him. Gave him good advice. Gave him some leads on a couple of jobs if I remember correctly.
All they got in return was excuses why he couldn't. That type of behavior is the exact reason why some here come down hard on him. And you.
Seems excuses is all you dummies got as to the reason for your failures... and then you people try to tell us we are stupid? Voting against our best interests? Heartless?
I'll tell you what heartless is, you worthless puke. Taking money out of my pocket, money that I worked damned hard for, money taken by threat of imprisonment, money that I could use to the betterment of my family, and giving it to worthless pukes like yourself so you can sit on your collectives asses all day and make comments on a message board.
Now that is heartless you worthless puke. And your little corner of the internet is infested with that type of people. So as far as I am concerned you and your ilk can **** off and die.
Trying to help a DUmmy proved futile. He chose that path.
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No such thing as an "astral unit". I'd be careful about flashing that level of ignorance in the middle of a rant decrying how stupid someone is.
Says the DUmbass who doesn't know that Astral Unit is a contraction of ASTRonomicAL Unit, a unit of distance. But, please, keep up the hypocritical stupidity and be a shining example of what it means to be a waste of skin, oxygen thieving DUmbass for the entire world to see.
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Says the DUmbass who doesn't know that Astral Unit is a contraction of ASTRonomicAL Unit, a unit of distance.
By Buzzy's own estimation he is infallible.
Therefore he can never be wrong, uninformed, misinformed, or otherwise ignorant.
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Astral Projection? Astral Projection? How did Eckankar project itself into this discussion? :bolt:
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(http://bluelips.com/prod_images_large/toetag1.jpg)
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Astral Projection? Astral Projection? How did Eckankar project itself into this discussion? :bolt:
Well, certainly "astral" is a word; just not a unit of measure.
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Well, certainly "astral" is a word; just not a unit of measure.
Keep stroking Buzzy.
If you backstroke any more, you could be setting a new world record.
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By Buzzy's own estimation he is infallible.
Therefore he can never be wrong, uninformed, misinformed, or otherwise ignorant.
Well you know what they say about people like the DUmbass BuzzClick....they're a legend in their own mind. In the real world however? Not so much.
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Keep stroking Buzzy.
If you backstroke any more, you could be setting a new world record.
Let's make this really, really clear: Astral Unit does not exist. Period. AU is short for Astronomical Unit.
You cannot yell and scream and insult your way out of this. I made my point about wasp69 that still stands and is 100% accurate.
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So, I knew this day would come. I knew there'd be no sensitivity in any written word here and I suppose I'm not surprised.
It truly grieves me to see the mockery that you've made of Kirk and Jeanette's lives. He gave you answers to questions you had no business asking. He did it with grace and intelligence. Still you all persisted in making a spectacle of him.
Kirk tried very hard to get his life on track. He loved his wife and she loved him. None of that matters to any of you, I'm aware of that fact.
I had hoped for a shred of decency though. Silly me.
Kirk will be missed. I enjoyed many years of good discussions with him.
Your childish, immature responses and response are not reply worthy.
Therefore I probably won't have any more to say on the subject. I really don't want to be a part of your little society here but I did want to tell you how disgusted I am at your outpouring of hatred and mocking of a friend.
I would be complicit if I didn't speak out.
Kirk the man, the husband, the writer, the very ill for so very long. May he rest in eternal peace. May Jeanette find comfort in her friends and the love they show her.
I know she'll see your hateful posts. I pray they don't hurt her too badly and that she considers the source.
sincerely.
aA
kesha.
And I pray you are able to void your bowels despite your sanctimony being shoved up your ass by your own hand.
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Let's make this really, really clear: Astral Unit does not exist. Period. AU is short for Astronomical Unit.
You cannot yell and scream and insult your way out of this. I made my point about wasp69 that still stands and is 100% accurate.
That's another trait about you libs that make you so repulsive.
Your ability to intentionally ignore anything that might clash with your agenda...
Says the DUmbass who doesn't know that Astral Unit is a contraction of ASTRonomicAL Unit, a unit of distance. But, please, keep up the hypocritical stupidity and be a shining example of what it means to be a waste of skin, oxygen thieving DUmbass for the entire world to see.
Also of note about you libs...
When you libs say "clear", all conservatives should grab their wallets, be prepared to be overcome with psychobabble, and be ready for the exact opposite of what the lib is offering.
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Let's make this really, really clear: Astral Unit does not exist. Period. AU is short for Astronomical Unit.
You cannot yell and scream and insult your way out of this. I made my point about wasp69 that still stands and is 100% accurate.
An astral unit is the average distance you can fly an astral plane.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JUbMWtUyIIE/hqdefault.jpg)
I wish I didn't know this shit.
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You had not posted on this thread when she posted. Your wish has come true: you were spared the scolding.
Nice. "I don't grave dance, but you and your widow friend can eat sh*t and die!"
You're a credit to your kind.
Buzzy you're not to fail in a most spectacular way if you try to scold anyone for their words about LVL. We've documented in great detail the death wishes the "see you in hell" posts...actually photos of one of your DUmp prepared simulating pissing on Reagan's grave and the general lack of sympathy for any soldiers that's died since 2001.
So don't for one second come in here on this thread on this forum and attempt to claim any kind of moral high ground.
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You cannot yell and scream and insult your way out of this. I made my point about wasp69 that still stands and is 100% accurate.
No. You're not accurate. He's one of the most stand up....decent people around here.
But he...like a lot of us here doesn't sugar coat what he says.
Which to sensitive Libs like you is like nails on a chalkboard.
Shove your "point" about wasp69...sideways.
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An astral unit is the average distance you can fly an astral plane.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JUbMWtUyIIE/hqdefault.jpg)
I wish I didn't know this shit.
Just for Buzzy...
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd498/danp5648/Plane%20911%20WTC%20South%20tower%20photo/retard_plane.png)
There's an astral plane one astral unit away from a large structure constructed of chicken wire and cinderblock.
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Buzzy, and all you lurking DUmpmonkies, when Frank dies, literally one of the nicest people on this board, you clowns will probably have jubilant gatherings in every town/city that holds more than two of you moonbats. The rest will be on what I would predict one of the biggest threads at DU trashing him. He's not even an asshole. Biggest assholes here, IMO, are me, TxRadioGuy, Dutch, and a few others (Sorry if I didn't include you). We're ones who take pleasure in being assgoles. Not Frank, yet you idiots seem to have a perpetual hard-on for him. Spare us your faux indignation about any grave-dancing. We've witnessed you clowns do it since the inception of that gaggle of morons known as DU.
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Buzzy you're not to fail in a most spectacular way if you try to scold anyone for their words about LVL. We've documented in great detail the death wishes the "see you in hell" posts...actually photos of one of your DUmp prepared simulating pissing on Reagan's grave and the general lack of sympathy for any soldiers that's died since 2001.
So don't for one second come in here on this thread on this forum and attempt to claim any kind of moral high ground.
True. To claim the moral high ground, one has to have morals in the in the first place. Buzzy, along with the entire membership of the DUmp, have shown time and time again, that they are the biggest cluster of immoral ****tards in the world.
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An astral unit is the average distance you can fly an astral plane.
I wish I didn't know this shit.
I stand corrected. :shrug: :afro:
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No. You're not accurate. He's one of the most stand up....decent people around here.
But he...like a lot of us here doesn't sugar coat what he says.
Which to sensitive Libs like you is like nails on a chalkboard.
Shove your "point" about wasp69...sideways.
Irrelevant to my point. I have no doubt that wasp69 is cute and cuddly in your eyes. In this case, meh. I made my point.
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Buzzy you're not to fail in a most spectacular way if you try to scold anyone for their words about LVL. We've documented in great detail the death wishes the "see you in hell" posts...actually photos of one of your DUmp prepared simulating pissing on Reagan's grave and the general lack of sympathy for any soldiers that's died since 2001.
So don't for one second come in here on this thread on this forum and attempt to claim any kind of moral high ground.
Gratefully, nothing you said is pertinent to my comments.
I was complimentary to those who posted prior to Aunt Whatsis, and I singled out no one about grave dancing or the like.
The early posts in this thread and nearly the entire thread about Beau Biden were appropriate and respectful. And, yeah, DU could learn something about that.
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Irrelevant to my point. I have no doubt that wasp69 is cute and cuddly in your eyes. In this case, meh. I made my point.
Other than some truly pathetic attempt at moral equivalence....what exactly is your ****ing point?
Perhaps you should sharpen that point because it...like you....seems pretty dull right now.
Perhaps you could expound on this imaginary point in the Fight Club thread that's been waiting on you for two weeks now.
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Gratefully, nothing you said is pertinent to my comments.
I was complimentary to those who posted prior to Aunt Whatsis, and I singled out no one about grave dancing or the like.
The early posts in this thread and nearly the entire thread about Beau Biden were appropriate and respectful. And, yeah, DU could learn something about that.
What does Beau Biden have to with your feigned outrage and finger wagging on this thread?
You haven't been complimentary....just condescending.
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What does Beau Biden have to with your feigned outrage and finger wagging on this thread?
You haven't been complimentary....just condescending.
What Buzz will never understand is that you have to actually be superior to someone (anyone) to be able to be condescending. Otherwise you just make yourself a hopeless joke.
Besides Buzzie, what ever made you think anybody here gives a crap what you think.
Of course, there is that thread in Fight Club.....coward.
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What Buzz will never understand is that you have to actually be superior to someone (anyone) to be able to be condescending. Otherwise you just make yourself a hopeless joke.
Besides Buzzie, what ever made you think anybody here gives a crap what you think.
Of course, there is that thread in Fight Club.....coward.
(http://www.senecadata.com/pdf/Pickney%20Hugo/2013%20Year%20Video/Aug/jrt-ankle-biter%20slide%205.jpg)
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What does Beau Biden have to with your feigned outrage and finger wagging on this thread?
Wait... what? You've posted all this spewage, but you don't know what this thread is about?
Go back and review. We'll wait... :yawn:
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Kirk was the only DUmmy that never ended up getting kicked out for trolling. Buzzy is proof that 99% of the DUmmies have no where else to go-they get canned from every other forum filled with decent people.
I don't respect Kirk because he chose the disability bandwagon over a guaranteed job. He had an excuse for every bit of kind hearted advice we could give him. Kirk lived in poverty and pain because he chose to live that way. bad choices mark the lives of many DUmmies.
Kirk lived a leech and he died a leech, he never contributed a thing to society. Even in death he will cost the taxpayers money-the govt will foot the bill to bury his carcass.
--thus seems to be the preferred life of a DUmmy. We see so many wading through a sea of doctors looking for that one who will sign off on a disability waiver.
Buzz, this is not grave dancing. it is a sad reflection on a pathetic, wasted life.
With your snark, bitterness, and condescension...I think that yes, I would dance. as bad as Kirk was, you are worse.
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Kirk was the only DUmmy that never ended up getting kicked out for trolling. Buzzy is proof that 99% of the DUmmies have no where else to go-they get canned from every other forum filled with decent people.
I don't respect Kirk because he chose the disability bandwagon over a guaranteed job. He had an excuse for every bit of kind hearted advice we could give him. Kirk lived in poverty and pain because he chose to live that way. bad choices mark the lives of many DUmmies.
Kirk lived a leech and he died a leech, he never contributed a thing to society. Even in death he will cost the taxpayers money-the govt will foot the bill to bury his carcass.
--thus seems to be the preferred life of a DUmmy. We see so many wading through a sea of doctors looking for that one who will sign off on a disability waiver.
Buzz, this is not grave dancing. it is a sad reflection on a pathetic, wasted life.
With your snark, bitterness, and condescension...I think that yes, I would dance. as bad as Kirk was, you are worse.
:clap:
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Well, although your comments drew out the worst of the worst in this place, my feeling was that, prior to your comments, most of the responses to the OP (and the OP itself) were pretty respectful.
I think you would have been better served targeting your ire towards those guilty in your eyes rather than using such a broad brush.
Or, better yet, thanking those who had been respectful and ignoring the deplorable reprobates.
So you won`t condemn the poster but do those that responded.
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Buzzy, and all you lurking DUmpmonkies, when Frank dies, literally one of the nicest people on this board, you clowns will probably have jubilant gatherings in every town/city that holds more than two of you moonbats. The rest will be on what I would predict one of the biggest threads at DU trashing him. He's not even an asshole. Biggest assholes here, IMO, are me, TxRadioGuy, Dutch, and a few others (Sorry if I didn't include you). We're ones who take pleasure in being assgoles. Not Frank, yet you idiots seem to have a perpetual hard-on for him. Spare us your faux indignation about any grave-dancing. We've witnessed you clowns do it since the inception of that gaggle of morons known as DU.
Half of them will hole up in their basements quivering in fear that Frank has gone dark and is off the grid hunting them down, one by one.
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Half of them will hole up in their basements quivering in fear that Frank has gone dark and is off the grid hunting them down, one by one.
Frank does get into their minds, doesn't he? He owns the dummies whether they know it or not. :cheersmate:
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And this DUmbass is trying to finger wag at us for making his life a spectacle.
Ask me again how many ****s I have given?
[hint- the answer be not a ****]
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Let's make this really, really clear: Astral Unit does not exist. Period. AU is short for Astronomical Unit.
You cannot yell and scream and insult your way out of this. I made my point about wasp69 that still stands and is 100% accurate.
The astronomical unit (symbol au[1][2] or AU[3][4][5]) is a unit of length, roughly the distance from the Earth to the Sun. However, that distance varies as the Earth orbits the Sun, from a maximum (aphelion) to a minimum (perihelion) and back again once a year. Originally, each distance was measured through observation, and the astronomical unit was defined as their average, half the sum of the maximum and minimum, making the unit a kind of medium measure for the Earth–Sun distance. It is now defined as exactly 7011149597870700000♠149597870700 meters (about 150 million kilometers, or 93 million miles).[6] The astronomical unit is used primarily as a convenient yardstick for measuring distances within the Solar System or around other stars. However, it is also a fundamental component in the definition of another critical unit of astronomical length, the parsec.
You know.... when I type in a search for astral unit this keeps popping up.
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Wait... what? You've posted all this spewage, but you don't know what this thread is about?
Go back and review. We'll wait... :yawn:
You're high again aren't you Bobby?
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I think you would have been better served targeting your ire towards those guilty in your eyes rather than using such a broad brush.
You should take your own advice...
Amazing how you're totally ignoring the fact that there was real genuine offers from us to help this man and his wife get out of the hole they were in and they were all rejected in favor of staying a slave to the pittiance the government was offering them. Your' backhanded attempt at acknowledge the people who haven't said anything mean in this particular thread is immaterial.
How many of your brethren at the DUmp...to include yourself....would offer the kind hand that was shown to Kirk and his wife from people here at CC?
I'll tell you the answer...none.
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I hope they take special precautions so that the crematorium doesn't catch on fire when they render him to ashes.
(http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article928524.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/glasgow-fire-gallery-image-8-627361577.jpg)
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You should take your own advice...
Amazing how you're totally ignoring the fact that there was real genuine offers from us to help this man and his wife get out of the hole they were in and they were all rejected in favor of staying a slave to the pittiance the government was offering them. Your' backhanded attempt at acknowledge the people who haven't said anything mean in this particular thread is immaterial.
How many of your brethren at the DUmp...to include yourself....would offer the kind hand that was shown to Kirk and his wife from people here at CC?
I'll tell you the answer...none.
Kirk also ignored private messages sent to him here at CC offering him help or advice. His problem was he knew it all and had an excuse for every thing else. He did not want any help, he was happy being a professional leech. Heck he even waited until the last minute to apply for benefits and then complained it was taking too long. (I believe he waited until after his wife was laid off)
He never replied to my very sincere messages.
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The astronomical unit (symbol au[1][2] or AU[3][4][5]) is a unit of length, roughly the distance from the Earth to the Sun....
You know.... when I type in a search for astral unit this keeps popping up.
What you've given is the Wikipedia definition of astronomical unit.
Do a search on "asstrollonical unit". What do you see? Same thing. So... the new spelling for AU is Asstrollnomical Unit?
Nice try. :hammer:
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You should take your own advice...
Amazing how you're totally ignoring the fact that there was real genuine offers from us to help this man and his wife get out of the hole they were in and they were all rejected in favor of staying a slave to the pittiance the government was offering them. Your' backhanded attempt at acknowledge the people who haven't said anything mean in this particular thread is immaterial.
How many of your brethren at the DUmp...to include yourself....would offer the kind hand that was shown to Kirk and his wife from people here at CC?
I'll tell you the answer...none.
You should have read the thread, and you should have had someone explain it to you.
My comment that you quoted was directed to auntAgonistic, not anyone at CC. I complimented Carl for his OP and all those who responded before auntAgonistic. My advice to her was to back off and acknowledge the kind words.
(Of course, you won't accept that, and another round of insults toward me is in the works. Knock yourself out -- I'm done with you on this thread).
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I begged Kirk to eat tuna and vegetables instead of rice and potatoes exclusively. It might have made a difference. RIP, Las Vegas Leviathan.
What was the deal with that? I seem to remember it was some sort of weight loss scheme but doomed to fail because rice and potatoes are loaded with carbs (carbs=sugar). Pixie stix would have been a slightly worse choice than rice and potatoes for a diabetic.
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What you've given is the Wikipedia definition of astronomical unit.
Do a search on "asstrollonical unit". What do you see? Same thing. So... the new spelling for AU is Asstrollnomical Unit?
Nice try. :hammer:
Your backstroke is getting better.
Be patient, with time and all the work you are putting in you will soon be world class.
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You should have read the thread, and you should have had someone explain it to you.
My comment that you quoted was directed to auntAgonistic, not anyone at CC. I complimented Carl for his OP and all those who responded before auntAgonistic. My advice to her was to back off and acknowledge the kind words.
(Of course, you won't accept that, and another round of insults toward me is in the works. Knock yourself out -- I'm done with you on this thread).
:whatever:
Typical arrogant retort. Doesn't address anything yet has all kinds of snarky bullshit attitude and condescending replies.
Still didn't address the pertinent part of my post which is:
How many of your brethren at the DUmp...to include yourself....would offer the kind hand that was shown to Kirk and his wife from people here at CC?
Oh and by the way:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=102559.0
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No. You're not accurate. He's one of the most stand up....decent people around here.
But he...like a lot of us here doesn't sugar coat what he says.
Which to sensitive Libs like you is like nails on a chalkboard.
Shove your "point" about wasp69...sideways.
Thanks, Sarge, but I'm not worried about what this obtuse **** says about me. The disruptive little vermin knew what I was talking about, but decided to nit pick and derail the conversation (which is his standard MO). Same DUmmie dickhead here as he was at CU.
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Ask me again how many ****s I have given?
[hint- the answer be not a ****]
Yeah, dutch, I know... :lmao:
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You know.... when I type in a search for astral unit this keeps popping up.
Weird, isn't it?
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Buzzy, and all you lurking DUmpmonkies, when Frank dies, literally one of the nicest people on this board, you clowns will probably have jubilant gatherings in every town/city that holds more than two of you moonbats. The rest will be on what I would predict one of the biggest threads at DU trashing him. He's not even an asshole. Biggest assholes here, IMO, are me, TxRadioGuy, Dutch, and a few others (Sorry if I didn't include you). We're ones who take pleasure in being assgoles. Not Frank, yet you idiots seem to have a perpetual hard-on for him. Spare us your faux indignation about any grave-dancing. We've witnessed you clowns do it since the inception of that gaggle of morons known as DU.
I'm number two?
Must...try...harder....
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Thanks, Sarge, but I'm not worried about what this obtuse **** says about me. The disruptive little vermin knew what I was talking about, but decided to nit pick and derail the conversation (which is his standard MO). Same DUmmie dickhead here as he was at CU.
I'm on the job disrupting the disruptor.
He's so insignificant that it's almost not worth the effort.
But it is enjoyable to hand his arse to him.
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Well, although your comments drew out the worst of the worst in this place, my feeling was that, prior to your comments, most of the responses to the OP (and the OP itself) were pretty respectful.
The worst of the worst eh? BuzzyBob on the worst day at this place we'd never come close to the vile hateful things said by your Progressive brethren at DU and elsewhere.
Here's fresh proof of how vile your fellow Libtards can be...from the FB page for current and former DU members who think DU is too far to the right. These people are active DU members.
Lek Domni Looks like she has pig testicles in her mouth.
15 hrs · Like · 1
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Charles Kimball Pig testicles are better in her mouth that the shit that comes out.
11 hrs · Like · 1
They're talking about Joni Ernst a sitting member of the Senate and a combat vet.
Remind me again who exactly is waging the war on women?
Take that sanctamonious finger you're wagging and shove it up your ass.
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I'm number two?
Must...try...harder....
:-)
Dragoon, I'm disappointed in you! :( :whistling: :tongue:
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Dragoon, I'm disappointed in you! :( :whistling: :tongue:
On the bright side I finished higher than Dutch....that's no easy feat.
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On the bright side I finished higher than Dutch....that's no easy feat.
Rebel ranked y'all in reverse order. :whistling:
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On the bright side I finished higher than Dutch....that's no easy feat.
You do have a point there.
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Do a search on "asstrollonical unit". What do you see?
A picture of you.
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RIP Kirk. Condolences to his wife.
I hope they take special precautions so that the crematorium doesn't catch on fire when they render him to ashes.
http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory (http://www.nbc12.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/06/obese-woman-body-fat-causes-austrian-crematorium-to-burn-down/)
Evil spirits
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On the bright side I finished higher than Dutch....that's no easy feat.
:cheersmate:
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What was the deal with that? I seem to remember it was some sort of weight loss scheme but doomed to fail because rice and potatoes are loaded with carbs (carbs=sugar). Pixie stix would have been a slightly worse choice than rice and potatoes for a diabetic.
Less healthy, but Kirk may have enjoyed the trip a little more. He would have mainlined pixie stix, if the government gave him a big enough needle.
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Kirk lived in poverty
Free food, great insurance, utility credits & subsidized rent. I have a feeling he had more disposable income every month then I do. He bragged about how they were better off not working.
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A picture of you.
Kudos. Buzzy has a tremendously overblown view of himself.
His view of owebuma and Hitlery are probably even more overblown if that is even possible.
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Late at night, June 12, the Dead DUmmy forum still has no LVL, no JeffR.
Skimmer's flunkies go off on a hair trigger for Skippy, but let these dead DUmmies fester.
Maybe they're waiting for the Big Guy so they can make all the changes at once.
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Free food, great insurance, utility credits & subsidized rent. I have a feeling he had more disposable income every month then I do. He bragged about how they were better off not working.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to respond. First, I truly appreciate the condolences that some of you have expressed toward me with the death of my husband. However, it truly saddens me when I read so many comments full of hate. Calling his death a suicide, saying that he deserved every bit of pain and injury he sustained, that it was entirely his fault that he was on disability.
Comments like the one I quoted. Sorry, we had what? Free food? Ok, we received a monthly food stamp allowance that totaled $103. Hmm, that was quite a bit of free food. Actually, it allowed us to get food from the dollar store near us, and the produce and fruit that we purchased was usually good to use as long as it was within that day or the day after. It wasn't a great deal of free food, but it was very helpful. And this was after we had originally been receiving about $160. For some reason, we lost about $60, while not increasing our income one iota. But here, lets get to the next point.
The great insurance. Ok, heres the deal with that. Due to Kirk ending up hospitalized, we found out that the state would help us with the MONTHLY Medicare Part B, as long as I didn't work. At all. I was his nurse for over four years, with no support of any kind. I read over some of the previous old posts where I had posted, 2 years ago. That was right before his first hospitalization, where I gave up on treating him and sent him by ambulance. Barely saved his leg that time (which, btw, was not good enough, he lost the leg about six months later). So he gets Part B, and qualifies for extra help with Part D as well (medication section). So he finally starts getting the diabetic medication (which so many of you doubted he needed, because of COURSE there was no way he wouldn't have gotten insulin or other diabetic medication, even if he couldn't afford the doctor visits to GET those scripts). He also starts getting some minimal support for other issues, including home health. Home health has a problem dealing with roommate, due to an issue with proper bathing by our roommate (odor build-up that helped drive away the home health), and they couldn't handle the bed bugs. Again, something that many on the forums doubted we actually had. Well, those issues meant that Kirk ended up hospitalized again, this time losing one leg due to total body failure from a massive bone infection. Long story short, he spent approximately 45 days in one medical setting, stayed home for about... six months, then spent another 45 days in another hospital recovering from losing a leg. Six months later, back in the hospital, and offered the choice of another leg amputation, or trying an extreme surgery to maybe save the leg and foot. He chose the surgery, and spent almost ten months in medical facilities, with me visiting him almost daily.
He had just come home, and was home for less than two months, when he died. He had not qualified for Medicaid previously, unless he was in a medical facility for 30 days or more. They explained that it was because he made too much with his Medicare, and was considered a single person household. I was not part of that household when medical was being evaluated, because I didn't make enough to contribute to his household (had to be $770 monthly). However, this last stint in the medical facilities meant that he was looked at as a candidate for a program with a Medicaid waiver. His income was low enough, and his situation was considered bad enough, that he qualified for the Medicaid waiver. This would mean that he would qualify for services, such as free doctors, medication, rides, specialists, etc, that he previously didn't qualify for. He just had to go through the approval process. Which usually takes about 45 days. Guess how many days he was out of the medical facility. Well, long enough that he was informed he was approved, and it would take approximately 72 hours for the approval to post. Eight days later, he was dead.
Oh, but wait, there were other freebies... According to RobJohnson, anyway. What was it? Oh yeah, utility credits & subsidized rent. Well, lets go over that. We probably qualified for power assistance, a friend of ours did, and he made more and had a smaller household. However, I was able to handle the power bills, as long as we were careful, so I never actually followed through on getting that application process completed. And I have no idea if we qualified for housing, because I never filled out an application for that either. Now, I will admit, once Kirk was approved for the Medicaid, I figured it'd be fairly easy to get us on the housing list, and summer does run our power bill higher. However, spreading out the charges by doing the Equal Month payment setup makes it fairly easy to handle, if I'm judicious. So, was there something else that was supposed to be free? Don't see anything further on the list given by RobJohnson, but I'm sure he has a list that he refers to whenever it becomes handy. Like, when bashing a widow and her dead husband.
Reading the earlier posts, where people seem to think they were being respectful of a dead man and his widow, I really have to question just how you view respect. Making fun of the fact that someone is getting cremated, and thinking that comments about how it's possible he could set fire to the crematorium? How is that respectful of the dead? I don't know how you are treated on DU, but I have NEVER, ever said anything disrespectful to any of you. I've had you doubt whether I have my own opinions, my own voice, and my own comments/posts. I have never responded in kind to you, doubting whether you were saying what you feel.
Telling others that my husband committed suicide, simply because he took a few additional pills to relieve his pain? You have no idea of the story behind those pills, or the story behind the last two months of his life. Hell, you honestly don't understand how it has been for us for the past twelve years that I've had with this man, this obese man who dealt with the situation he had to deal with. We had only a very, VERY short period of time where he lived a normal life, and even from the beginning, he was having health problems. Hell, a month after we started talking, he ended up almost cancelling his trip to see/meet me, because he had issues with his leg. He was terrified that I would want nothing to do with him, because he felt that his medical problems would run me off. They didn't, and throughout the remainder of his life, as short as it was, I loved and cared for him, and simply wanted him to be able to live life to the fullest.
The really sad thing is, he had just gotten the approval. He went to see a pain doctor, as well as a primary doctor, two days before he died. He had to make a one month pain script last almost two months, but damnit, when he saw the new pain doctors, they agreed that he needed serious help. He was going to be seeing therapists, specialists, his primary doctor, everyone and anyone that could help improve his situation and maybe even help him live a somewhat normal life. I got his pain script filled the day before he died, and was aware, in the back of my mind, that he had been having more problems with not breathing while sleeping. I didn't think much of it, because it was something we were working on, and had been a long term issue. He was used to waking up if he stopped breathing. So, when I came home with the new pain pills, he still had a few left from that one month script. He took the last few pills, because he had been in so much pain for so long, he just wanted a little relief. I helped him to bed a little later, and he was in a good mood, feeling relatively pain free and happy.
I ended up at the computer, kinda playing a game, and sorta watching tv. I was tired, I ended up dozing. I might have even woken up when he stopped breathing, because he was relatively loud due to snoring from the sleep apnea. But when I finally woke up, and realized he was too quiet, there was nothing 911 or I could do. I called 911 around 8am, the coroners paperwork gives a projected time of death of 4:25am. My husband, my heart, my love, he died and there was nothing I could do for him.
And all I hear from you folks here is hateful and spiteful. Yes, there are a few voices out there that say that they hope my life improves without him. That's not possible. Yes, I can now look for work and get off assistance, possibly. Yes, I might be able to improve my situation without him. That doesn't mean that my life will ever be the same without him. We had so many plans, we were looking at a future that we thought would be so much better. But now I have to live, knowing that there are judgemental people out there that will make fun of a man simply because he wasn't able to meet their expectations of what they thought he should have been able to do.
I don't know. I don't think that you can ever change. My expectations of the people here on this forum... well, what do you care. Not like you really ever respected me or Kirk. I hope that you can learn, but somehow I doubt it. So many of you were speaking of one idea, with many voices. And you talk so bad about DU doing the same thing. I don't know, maybe DU is just as bad. If so, I feel pity for all of you.
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While I don`t doubt you cared for him Jeannette,I do hope in time you will come to see exactly how he treated you.
Perhaps not physically but the battered wife syndrome is all I can describe it by.
Sorry for that honesty.
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You may believe that I was abused (or battered) as his wife, but at least he never, ever insulted me the way people did on this board. He never raised a hand at me, and very rarely ever yelled at me or raised his voice. I was far more vocal towards him when I felt that he was wrong about something. No, he wasn't perfect, neither am I. However, I know how my homelife was with him, and you cannot know or judge him without having been in my shoes. It actually disgusts me that people can say what they have regarding my relationship with him, when I'm the one that lived with him, not anyone else. And those that DID live with us would never have called me a battered wife. Or even an abused one, which is probably more what you are talking about, since battered is for those who are being beaten. I was never beaten, physically, mentally, or emotionally, not by him, anyway.
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While I don`t doubt you cared for him Jeannette,I do hope in time you will come to see exactly how he treated you.
Perhaps not physically but the battered wife syndrome is all I can describe it by.
Sorry for that honesty.
Hi5. Agreed.
Kirk had a guaranteed job offered to him right here on this board. A sit down job at a computer...something he already did. If he could play WoW for hours, he could work at a computer.
Kirk turned it down. The two of you offered nothing but excuses.
My only conclusion: He lived the life he chose.
I can understand the pain of a loved one lost. But I stand by my words on this thread. Truth can be painful to hear, but it is never hate.
Jeanette, you have the rest of your life before you. There is a time to morn, and that is now.
But after that, you need to take care of yourself. Find a job.
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However, it truly saddens me when I read so many comments full of hate. Calling his death a suicide, saying that he deserved every bit of pain and injury he sustained, that it was entirely his fault that he was on disability.
bluja, pointing out the consequences of a lifestyle may be hurtful, painful, or even incorrect, but it isn't hatred. Seriously, don't inflate words with valuable meaning, or being served mushy pasta at a restaurant could be called hatred if it offends you enough.
Being severely overweight has consequences. I have and to some degree still do. My lack of knife-fork-and-spoon control limited my ability to help in the work of my son's Eagle Project (he may not have noticed, but I sure did). My lack of knife-fork-and-spoon control led to a heart attack at age 48.
Some people respond to such experiences by doing something to reduce or fix the cause of the problems. It took me more than a decade after my heart attack, but I did. I lost weight, am more controlled in my eating, and I do half marathons at a fast walk. Consequences? I have to walk all but .1 of that 13.1 miles. Consequences? I realized last weekend that a very challenging goal toward which I've been working for nearly a year is very unrealistic.
Some people respond to such experiences by becoming unpleasant, manipulative, and dependent - by digging their ditch of misery deeper and pulling those close to them into it. I'll leave to you filling in those "blanks", the consequences, but it sounds like your late husband took that road.
I have some experience with having had a near-abusive very close family relative, who is now dead. My counsel, from that perspective is, however much you loved and love him, don't deny or try to minimize his abuse, whatever form it took. That would only set you up for some sort of future abuse. Don't do that to yourself!
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While I don`t doubt you cared for him Jeannette,I do hope in time you will come to see exactly how he treated you.
Perhaps not physically but the battered wife syndrome is all I can describe it by.
Sorry for that honesty.
Yes, bluja000, listen to Carl. He reads a bulletin board, so he knows everything there is to know about everything. You don't even have to ask. He will tell, without invitation and without verification, how superior he is and how inferior you are.
And, if you ever dare challenge him about his knowledge (you know, stuff like "my husband never abused me"), he will call you a liar and will be cheered by all others who post here.
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I see Buzzy watching the thread as I post.
No doubt he is circling like a vulture waiting to pounce on any perceived slight and call it "full of hate".
I hope I am there to see it right away to counter lib lies with truth(that libs love to call hate).
Libs loving to call truth hate, especially as a tactic to attempt to extort silence is the lib's favorite past time.
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Yes, bluja000, listen to Carl. He reads a bulletin board, so he knows everything there is to know about everything. You don't even have to ask. He will tell, without invitation and without verification, how superior he is and how inferior you are.
And, if you ever dare challenge him about his knowledge (you know, stuff like "my husband never abused me"), he will call you a liar and will be cheered by all others who post here.
Look at the little ***** vulture that swooped in.
You have challenges here buzzy,I suggest you strongly consider answering them.
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Yes, bluja000, listen to Carl. He reads a bulletin board, so he knows everything there is to know about everything. You don't even have to ask. He will tell, without invitation and without verification, how superior he is and how inferior you are.
And, if you ever dare challenge him about his knowledge (you know, stuff like "my husband never abused me"), he will call you a liar and will be cheered by all others who post here.
I see Buzzy watching the thread as I post.
No doubt he is circling like a vulture waiting to pounce on any perceived slight and call it "full of hate".
I hope I am there to see it right away to counter lib lies with truth(that libs love to call hate).
Libs loving to call truth hate, especially as a tactic to attempt to extort silence is the lib's favorite past time.
Nailed it !!!
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Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Kirk respected you?
I wasn't seeing that, and probably I read Kirk much more, and more often, than others.
It in fact got my goat, the way he talked about you.
You were his main support, yet he was the "smart one," as if you were a helpless cretin. There were several times he made this disturbing comparison.
Hades, madam, I have a higher respect for your intelligence, than I did for his.
Maybe I belong in another century or something, but I've never liked it when couples disparage each other, even if in fun (in your case, it was one-sided, coming from him); to me, there's nothing funny about one of a pair lording it over the other of a pair. There were lots of times I thought Kirk needed kicked in the teeth, for his disparagement of you.....the one who was keeping him alive.
You're not, madam, but face it, the guy was an ass.
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Hi5. Agreed.
Kirk had a guaranteed job offered to him right here on this board. A sit down job at a computer...something he already did. If he could play WoW for hours, he could work at a computer.
Kirk turned it down. The two of you offered nothing but excuses.
My only conclusion: He lived the life he chose.
I can understand the pain of a loved one lost. But I stand by my words on this thread. Truth can be painful to hear, but it is never hate.
Jeanette, you have the rest of your life before you. There is a time to morn, and that is now.
But after that, you need to take care of yourself. Find a job.
I remember him explaining that he mostly browsed the internet because he couldn't spend the time he used to typing. Apparently the job offered required typing, because the person who offered the job said that he wouldn't be able to do it then. Kirk wasn't playing WoW, and in fact, was unable to play any game for long periods of time. He found it more and more difficult to even navigate the games, leaving the "talking" to me. I understand, however, that you would like to consider that an excuse. Later, it became even more difficult, because the medical facilities needed blood draws, sometimes daily. He was what is considered a "hard stick", his veins being so bad that they would collapse at the first opportunity. They had to draw blood through his hands, which caused massive nerve damage, over and above the issues he was already experiencing. But of course, that's just another excuse...
There's also the fact that I would have been more than happy to consider that sit down computer job. That would have been perfect for me. But no, it was only available for Kirk. Who physically couldn't handle the typing apparently required for the work. Who would mainly go slow on posting his comments, because he seldom was able to complete a post in one sitting, without resting his hands. I would still love to get a computer sit down job. I'm not at all adverse to working. Even while dealing with my future move, paring down the belongings that were Kirks stuff, trying to figure out who to give items to. I'm not looking for money for the various items that Kirk had and that I now have to get rid of. I've been donating items to places and people that I think will be able to use them. But I'm guessing you will find an excuse in there somewhere.
All you can see is excuses. And I no longer care. You can think what you want, because it's too late to hurt Kirk anymore. And I'm NOT going to let you hurt me anymore, like so many of you did earlier in this thread. No matter how many kind words people used, there was far more hate thrown in, for a dead guy who can no longer even begin to try to defend himself. And I don't need to defend him to you, because it no longer matters. If I was mistreated by Kirk, then it's on me to deal with it. You have no right to tell me whether he should have treated me different, or how he should have treated me. It's in the past. And as for your admonishment that I should get a job, give me details about the job that wasn't good enough for me, but was good enough for Kirk (the computer job), because I think that would work well for me. Otherwise, leave me alone, and let me decide how I want to live my life. You aren't responsible for me, so let me deal with my life the way I choose to. Whether that be as a panhandler in Chicago, or a wealthy socialite in San Francisco. It's not going to have a thing to do with you.
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bluja, pointing out the consequences of a lifestyle may be hurtful, painful, or even incorrect, but it isn't hatred. Seriously, don't inflate words with valuable meaning, or being served mushy pasta at a restaurant could be called hatred if it offends you enough.
Being severely overweight has consequences. I have and to some degree still do. My lack of knife-fork-and-spoon control limited my ability to help in the work of my son's Eagle Project (he may not have noticed, but I sure did). My lack of knife-fork-and-spoon control led to a heart attack at age 48.
Some people respond to such experiences by doing something to reduce or fix the cause of the problems. It took me more than a decade after my heart attack, but I did. I lost weight, am more controlled in my eating, and I do half marathons at a fast walk. Consequences? I have to walk all but .1 of that 13.1 miles. Consequences? I realized last weekend that a very challenging goal toward which I've been working for nearly a year is very unrealistic.
Some people respond to such experiences by becoming unpleasant, manipulative, and dependent - by digging their ditch of misery deeper and pulling those close to them into it. I'll leave to you filling in those "blanks", the consequences, but it sounds like your late husband took that road.
I have some experience with having had a near-abusive very close family relative, who is now dead. My counsel, from that perspective is, however much you loved and love him, don't deny or try to minimize his abuse, whatever form it took. That would only set you up for some sort of future abuse. Don't do that to yourself!
Ok, so you were able to make changes that improved your life. However, it took you over a decade, right? Kirk was hospitalized less than six months after his posts that caused such contention. And he was in the middle of making life changes. We were going for fresh fruit and veggies, where available in the Dollar Store. Unfortunately, it wasn't always possible to get what we wanted, and we'd end up going with whole wheat pasta and unrefined grains, cereal, and other foods based upon the plant based diet he wanted. While hospitalized, they refused to follow his request for a vegan diet, because they said that they had to have a more standardized menu for all of the residents.
He was discharged about 45 days after being admitted, and ended up hospitalized again about six months later. The pattern continued. Forty-five days later, discharged. Six months later, hospitalized again. Only this time, he stayed away for almost ten months, missed it by only two days. And died just under two months later.
How do you compare your decade to his six months out of a hospital setting??? How dare you say that he had the ability to change his lifestyle and manage to improve himself enough to stay out of the hospital. Six months is NOT a long time, when you consider that each time, he had to deal with ulcers popping up almost immediately upon discharge. On the soles of his feet (when he HAD two feet, that is), which meant that he had no ability to do much walking or lower body exercises with those ulcers.
I don't know. Just seems like you folks feel that he should have been able to go walking around, when the ulcers literally took over the sole of one foot. That meant that he had to stay off that foot and try to keep it elevated as much as possible. Not only that, but the home health nurse couldn't figure out how to apply the special bandages on his foot, to try to give him the best chance at healing. Weekly wound care clinic visits still ended with him going to the hospital approximately every six months between hospital stays. Tell me how he could have changed his lifestyle, in a way that he hadn't already tried. Again, you know NOTHING about what we went through, and yet you feel you have the right to judge him. None of you do. Not a single one of you.
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Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Kirk respected you?
I wasn't seeing that, and probably I read Kirk much more, and more often, than others.
It in fact got my goat, the way he talked about you.
You were his main support, yet he was the "smart one," as if you were a helpless cretin. There were several times he made this disturbing comparison.
Hades, madam, I have a higher respect for your intelligence, than I did for his.
Maybe I belong in another century or something, but I've never liked it when couples disparage each other, even if in fun (in your case, it was one-sided, coming from him); to me, there's nothing funny about one of a pair lording it over the other of a pair. There were lots of times I thought Kirk needed kicked in the teeth, for his disparagement of you.....the one who was keeping him alive.
You're not, madam, but face it, the guy was an ass.
I never saw him disparage me. On the contrary, he was very intelligent, but he always made me feel special and loved. If you want to take his words, and believe that he was being abusive in any way, then so be it. I'm not going to worry about it. If he was, in fact, in any way abusive towards me, then that's on me to deal with. You don't have the right to decide for me whether I was being abused by him, or, in fact, by anyone. Even others in this thread. I don't need to defend myself against anything he said, and I should be more than capable of defending myself to anyone here, if I so choose. I'm not political, and I try to be polite, even when I'm being insulted. People should leave Kirk alone. He's dead, he can't defend himself to anyone, and it's too late to hurt him in any way. Why doesn't everyone just get that? Didn't your moms ever tell you to not say anything if you couldn't say something nice? My mom did. I thought that was one of the universal sayings, along with the one about how she hopes you have kids just like you when you grow up.
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Jeanette,Kirk was a member of a site that thrives on hatred for anyone that has more then they do and obsesses about having some means to take that "wealth" and giving it to them.
I truly have no animosity towards you but please don`t think for a moment that the denizens of the DUmp are an honorable sort in any fashion.
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Carl, you seem to be a fairly reasoned person, and I have nothing personal against you. Or, in fact, anyone in this thread. However, please don't tell me that this forum is not without it's faults. I can go back to the first page of this thread and bring up the instances of people talking about my husband committing suicide, or how he may cause the crematorium to catch fire, just to name a couple examples of the hate expressed here. So please, don't try to blame DU for all of the hate, because just doing a search through your forums for LVL shows just a small sample of hatred directed at people who are not welcome on your forums. Your group seems to thrive on hatred for those who need help. And honestly, that makes me think of something that's been attributed to Jesus. I seem to remember something about helping those who need help. I don't remember it well, and I have probably mangled it beyond recognition. I apologize if that's the case. And as for honor, go back to page one of this thread. Very little honor to be had in what was said.
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Jesus said the poor will always be with you.
He said that in the context of his disciples trying to admonish someone who wanted to show a kindness to Jesus.
His disciples thought that the gesture was frivolously ostentatious, and that there could be a more effective use of wealth in regards to the poor.
But Jesus set them straight.
Now why did Jesus do that ?
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Jesus said the poor will always be with you.
He said that in the context of his disciples trying to admonish someone who wanted to show a kindness to Jesus.
His disciples thought that the gesture was frivolously ostentatious, and that there could be a more effective use of wealth in regards to the poor.
But Jesus set them straight.
Now why did Jesus do that ?
Wasn't it where he was being offered some small item by a poor person, and his disciples didn't believe that the item was worthy of him? And he said to let the poor man make the offer, because the gesture was worth more than the item? That's what I'm remembering, but again, it's been a very long time.
And in a way, that's what I'm doing. Kirk gathered many things over the years, some with a fairly decent value. I know that I could probably manage to get some money out of what I have and can't keep. Instead, I'm trying to match the items up with people that can use the items, and appreciate them for what they meant to Kirk. There's a friend of his that plays cd's, rather than downloading music. Well, Kirk has a very large collection of cds that he's collected, most of them from before we even met. Anything medical that can't be used by the friend who I'm moving in with is going to the home health agency that provided Kirk with what resources they could. And the man that made his prosthetic, he can reuse some of the parts for someone without insurance. Money would have been nice to get, but it's by no means what I'm after. Oh, but it's an excuse, I'm sure. Somehow I'm making an excuse for something.
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Carl, you seem to be a fairly reasoned person, and I have nothing personal against you. Or, in fact, anyone in this thread. However, please don't tell me that this forum is not without it's faults. I can go back to the first page of this thread and bring up the instances of people talking about my husband committing suicide, or how he may cause the crematorium to catch fire, just to name a couple examples of the hate expressed here. So please, don't try to blame DU for all of the hate, because just doing a search through your forums for LVL shows just a small sample of hatred directed at people who are not welcome on your forums. Your group seems to thrive on hatred for those who need help. And honestly, that makes me think of something that's been attributed to Jesus. I seem to remember something about helping those who need help. I don't remember it well, and I have probably mangled it beyond recognition. I apologize if that's the case. And as for honor, go back to page one of this thread. Very little honor to be had in what was said.
Not people that need help but people that refuse to do anything to help themselves and that is not directed specifically at Kirk.
Life is tough in various degrees for almost everyone and has been forever.
The DUmp is a festering cesspool of malcontents and parasites that insist life should be paid for by someone else while their main ambition is to smoke dope.
All one has to do is lurk there for a short time to see that.
There is no comparison in the least as far as that goes.
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Again, you know NOTHING about what we went through, and yet you feel you have the right to judge him. None of you do. Not a single one of you.
Jeanette,
Reality is tough. Avoiding reality is easy, but has unavoidable consequences.
You want us to not judge Kirk or you, yet you want to judge us. It doesn't work that way. Both of you publicized your private lives, by your own volition. Both of you came here, by your own volition. Your dependence on taxpayer subsidy (welfare) made us all involuntary partners in your lives. Your expectation that you would not be judged, challenged, or disagreed with is an irrational one.
In your posts here, you focused on the past year or two, as though they are the totality of Kirk's life. That is false. Kirk laid out the path of his self-destruction decades ago; by refusing to take responsibility for his life, his health, and his responsibilities to you as a man and a husband.
Kirk's morbid obesity, diabetes, circulatory insufficiency, neuropathy, gangrene, sleep apnea, and resulting mental illness were within his control, until they controlled him. He chose a high-carbohydrate diet; he chose sloth; he chose to place you in the role of family breadwinner; and he chose to complain about the insufficiency of welfare instead of throwing off the chains of government slavery and doing whatever he could to support the two of you. That is what a man would do, and Kirk didn't do it.
And you let him.
And at the end, Kirk hoarded his pain pills, took more than the doctor had prescribed, and died. Intentionally or accidentally, Kirk caused his own death.
And you let him.
I understand why you are angry at us, but getting angry at us for pointing out his failure doesn't make the failure go away. All we have done is hold up a mirror. He chose his path, he dragged you down that path to the end, and you enabled him all along the way. Closing your eyes doesn't make the image in the mirror go away, and blaming the mirror for what you see won't change it either.
Mourn your loss, look in the mirror, figure out what was wrong in your relationship with Kirk, and make healthier choices next time.
I wish you much happiness.
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Jeanette,
Reality is tough. Avoiding reality is easy, but has unavoidable consequences.
You want us to not judge Kirk or you, yet you want to judge us. It doesn't work that way. Both of you publicized your private lives, by your own volition. Both of you came here, by your own volition. Your dependence on taxpayer subsidy (welfare) made us all involuntary partners in your lives. Your expectation that you would not be judged, challenged, or disagreed with is an irrational one.
In your posts here, you focused on the past year or two, as though they are the totality of Kirk's life. That is false. Kirk laid out the path of his self-destruction decades ago; by refusing to take responsibility for his life, his health, and his responsibilities to you as a man and a husband.
Kirk's morbid obesity, diabetes, circulatory insufficiency, neuropathy, gangrene, sleep apnea, and resulting mental illness were within his control, until they controlled him. He chose a high-carbohydrate diet; he chose sloth; he chose to place you in the role of family breadwinner; and he chose to complain about the insufficiency of welfare instead of throwing off the chains of government slavery and doing whatever he could to support the two of you. That is what a man would do, and Kirk didn't do it.
And you let him.
And at the end, Kirk hoarded his pain pills, took more than the doctor had prescribed, and died. Intentionally or accidentally, Kirk caused his own death.
And you let him.
I understand why you are angry at us, but getting angry at us for pointing out his failure doesn't make the failure go away. All we have done is hold up a mirror. He chose his path, he dragged you down that path to the end, and you enabled him all along the way. Closing your eyes doesn't make the image in the mirror go away, and blaming the mirror for what you see won't change it either.
Mourn your loss, look in the mirror, figure out what was wrong in your relationship with Kirk, and make healthier choices next time.
I wish you much happiness.
Kirk did make poor choices before meeting me. And admitted that. However, by the time he met me, he was already obese. There was no getting around that. He attempted to improve his life with exercise and better eating habits. And I will admit, at that time, I didn't see those choices in the same light. I decided I didn't want to follow those choices, and he gave in on some things.
However, even when he was making better choices for himself, there were other factors that went against him. He wanted to start walking more, get more exercise. Little did he know, he had planar fascitis (I know it's misspelled), which wouldn't have manifested if he hadn't started walking as much as he did. And the cure for that? Casts on his feet. The medication he was given caused swelling within the casts. And some cheep shoes I bought when he was able to walk again, well, they caused a small wound to start. Which became an ulcer. Which became multiple ulcers. Which spread to his legs. And on and on.
Yes, before he met me, both of us had screwed up lives. And I didn't help him make the best choices in life when we got together. I'm definitely to blame for several things, but I'm not to blame for him getting disability, and us getting food stamps. I'm sorry, but food stamps aren't cash, and I never treated them like so many others, selling them for half or a quarter of their stated value, just so we could smoke, drink, or do drugs. You should be looking at those people, but oh, wait, they aren't usually obese. Because their health habits don't usually allow them to become obese. So it's ok for them.
Yes, I know I have plenty of blame to accept. I do that daily, since he passed away. And I understand that he wasn't perfect, and we could have definitely made changes along the way. I truly regret the walk that we took, so many years ago. The one where he came home that night, complaining about how bad his feet hurt. I remember every step of that walk, and could go back over it right now, if I wanted. But it's too late, and I'm not going to worry about it now.
And the reason I focused on the last few years of his life? Well, he didn't have the disability for all that long. Feb 2009. Six years. And you folks tried punishing him for each and every month of it. Tried making him think that he was worthless because the state decided that he couldn't work, and qualified for disability. He fought against applying for so long, but finally agreed to apply. Apparently the state decided extremely quickly that he qualified, because he got it less than three months after applying. Not after being rejected at least once, this was on his FIRST attempt. And no, we didn't doctor shop for a doctor who was willing to try putting everything in JUST the right light. The doctor he was seeing actually basically demanded that Kirk apply, because otherwise we were to the point where we couldn't afford the doctor any longer.
Honestly, as much as I have found this to be therapeutic, I haven't slept since yesterday morning. I'm going to get some rest, but you are more than welcome to leave me posts that I can respond to later. Or not, I don't know. Depends upon whether any are worth responding to. I hope there are some, like I said, this has actually been therapeutic.
To those who have done more than just repeat that it's all just excuses, I appreciate that. The calm and rational arguments have been interesting. It's when the discussions turn into blame you, or you, or hell, let's blame you, or it's all just an excuse, that's when I have to shake my head.
I may not like the topic of discussion, or agree with what someone says. That doesn't mean that I won't be willing to discuss something if it's not just a repeat of someone calling foul. And I'm willing to admit if I'm wrong in a comment. However, don't keep shouting that everything is an excuse, because I'm not here to provide excuses. I'm here to understand you folks and the reason(s) why you acted so shameful earlier with your unwarranted comments.
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Kirk did make poor choices before meeting me.
Jeanette,
I snipped your last comment, but I am not discounting it.
We are individuals here, and we have individual opinions. This is mine. I have no respect for Kirk, and I will not express false sympathy on his behalf. If I tell you I am sorry for your loss, then I mean it. If I tell you Kirk is responsible for his own death, then I mean it. Kirk wallowed in his victimhood; he seemed to relish it. His refusal to take responsibility for his life led you both to this point.
You wrote about his plantar fasciitis, as though it was some contagious disease he caught while riding the bus. It isn't. Plantar fasciitis is caused by overstress on the ligaments and tendons of the foot. Soldiers develop it from carrying a loaded rucksack, weapon, helmet, body armor, and gear. In Kirk's case, carrying 100+ extra pounds of Kirk did it. Blaming a pair of shoes for his bad feet, and blaming yourself for those shoes, ignores the real cause: Kirk.
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross described five stages of grief, commonly experienced in any significant personal loss: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Like anything related to human behavior, Kubler-Ross's theory is not set in stone, and not everyone experiences grief the same way; but it's a good tool to understand the emotional reaction to something like the death of a spouse.
Right now, you are in denial, and angry. "Denial" includes excuse making, and blame. "It's not really his fault the bad thing happened, it is the fault of <insert external factor here>." You are angry at yourself. You haven't said it, but you are probably angry at Kirk (edited to add: and if you're not, you soon will be). You're angry at the government, for not giving you enough of other people's money. You're angry at us, for failing to show you the amount of false sympathy you want, and for holding up that mirror that you don't want to look into.
Why is it "false sympathy" if we pat your hand and tell you how sorry we are? Because neither Kirk nor you earned real sympathy- and it is an earned thing. You described years and years of poor choices, on both of your parts. Those choices led inexorably to this end. It's simple: If A, then B. Kirk did A, and ended up with B. You did A, and ended up with B.
Look in the mirror, Jeanette. It's too late for Kirk, but it's not too late for you. Pull up your big girl pants. Stop thinking about 'blame'; think about 'responsibility'. Take responsibility for yourself, and yourself alone. Make healthier choices for yourself.
Whether you recognize it or not, you just received more honest love from a total stranger than Kirk ever gave you.
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My condolences to Jeanette. I don't have much that is kind to say about Kirk, so I won't say anything here. Losing someone that is loved is hard. It has to be even harder when it is because he chose suicide.
The only thing I would tell the other DUmmies is that when we offer real advice, you would do well to take it.
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Jeanette - I didn't keep up on the situation, but you have my condolences and I hope you are able to come to terms with what happened. The difference between DU and CC is simple: DU cared about him to the extent that there were government programs around to keep him at a pathetic level of existence. CC, while tough at times, offered concrete solutions that would have involved difficult work. So far your response is typical of the fearful and overwhelmed: yes, well...yes, but...oh, but he can't.... But let's be honest: if he wanted to help himself, he'd have helped himself. He didn't. And he didn't really try: people who honestly try to improve their health always improve their health. Food stamps, shoes, casts, all of that is just noise. I hope you are able to move forward in a positive manner and I wish you good fortune. You probably can't see it, but the people writing replies to you are actually empathetic. I can see it very clearly behind their words.
Buzz Clik - you are a coward of the highest order. Seriously, all kidding aside: you're a pathetic coward. I would call you a pathetic excuse for a man, but then I'd have to think of one good reason why women would then want to be saddled with someone like you.
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Jeanette,
I snipped your last comment, but I am not discounting it.
We are individuals here, and we have individual opinions. This is mine. I have no respect for Kirk, and I will not express false sympathy on his behalf. If I tell you I am sorry for your loss, then I mean it. If I tell you Kirk is responsible for his own death, then I mean it. Kirk wallowed in his victimhood; he seemed to relish it. His refusal to take responsibility for his life led you both to this point....
blujay00,
My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Seriously, say your last bit and go. A longer stay might suggest you actually enjoy this level of abuse...
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blujay00,
My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Seriously, say your last bit and go. A longer stay might suggest you actually enjoy this level of abuse...
Buzz Clik,
I implore you to **** off. You are, without question, the most pathetic troll this board has ever experienced. People like Kirk and Jeanette get deeper into bad situations because of bullshitters like you. People here are trying to help this woman, and since you don't like the tenor of the discussion, your contribution is to tell her to run and hide. Meanwhile you avoid challenges here. You're a sad excuse for a human being, and I wish you ill. I sincerely hope you get banned soon, because your fatuous, cowardly stench is offensive.
Please, Buzz, let men and women post in peace. Go play.
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My condolences to Jeanette. I don't have much that is kind to say about Kirk, so I won't say anything here. Losing someone that is loved is hard. It has to be even harder when it is because he chose suicide.
The only thing I would tell the other DUmmies is that when we offer real advice, you would do well to take it.
She chose to come here and make her case, and she's responded to retorts with courage, and that gets her a hi-five from me.
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My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Don't give me more credit than I have earned. I am just a talking Dog, after all.
(http://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/therapy_dog.jpeg)
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Jeanette, may God be with you in your time of mourning, and as you piece your life back together.
I still wish you'd made him eat fish and vegetables instead of huge bowls of starch.
Your first post was a vivid example why never to be dependent on the government. They capriciously take $60 away from your food budget without a moments notice. Please don't live like that as you go forward.
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blujay00,
My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Seriously, say your last bit and go. A longer stay might suggest you actually enjoy this level of abuse...
Buzzy,you pathetic sack of useless shit.
You took no part of any of the interactions here over the years but now are just a yellow back asswipe that pops in to try to agitate and then runs away.
Kirk at least tried to engage,you are nothing more then a hyena that can`t even answer questions put to him.
Your time here is drawing short.
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Just as when she first showed up here two or three years ago, I'm not convinced that she and the LVL aren't one and the same. Writing styles are identical.
Has anyone seen an obit?
He could be somewhere frolicking with the round red sodomite, living it up on DUmmybucks from the Andyscam.
Maybe that's why Skimmer's flunkies haven't updated the Dead DUmmy forum.
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blujay00,
My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Seriously, say your last bit and go. A longer stay might suggest you actually enjoy this level of abuse...
You don't know a thing about empathy.
But you do know a lot about what you are expert at...enabling.
You cloak your enabling in empathy.
It's truly despicable.
Don't talk about Big Dog.
You aren't fit to carry his jockstrap.
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As I figured, people have chosen to say that, essentially, I'm still just making excuses. Whether you want to see it that way or not, it's ok. Kirk is gone, and I will be moving on with my life. And of course, as one last slap in the face, I get the old accusation that I can't possibly be my own individual, I have to be Kirk hiding under a screen name. That's fine. If you honestly can't accept that he's dead, then there's nothing further I can say.
Whether I'm angry at anyone, or not, I still have to go into the future without Kirk. Whether that means that I live a better one, well, it's going to take actually living it to determine that as I go along. I miss him so much, and I don't expect that to ever truly go away. I don't care if you respect(ed) him, or if you respect me. To be honest, that's not going to make one iota of difference to me as I go forward in life. I know I have to respect myself. Being told to look in the mirror, and accepting blame where blame is due, sure, I can do that. There are actually some useful things that I will take with me as I leave this thread. There have been discussions that, strange as it may sound, I do value. I don't value being told my husband committed suicide. Or that (early on) he may cause a building to go up in flames. Oh, and the gem about how his fat should be rendered down. There are hateful things said here that had no need to be said, but it has been quite a ride.
I do respect some of you, to a degree. There are some who have been able to discuss things in a calm and thoughtful manner. Yes, I may not have found the topic pleasant, or the words valid. But at least you didn't jump on the GOBUCKS bandwagen and dismiss me entirely. Rather than retail therapy, shopping to deal with my issues, I've found this to be a form of therapy. It was interesting to hear what some of you had to say. And I hope that someday, you will learn to leave Kirk alone. However, as I've mentioned before, he's dead, so can't truly be hurt by anything further you may have to say. So, keep on keeping.
Oh, and I guess the information about the computer job isn't forthcoming?
Thought not. I'm not good enough for it, I guess. I'll leave you folks to rehash the same information, I have a move to work on.
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Yes, bluja000, listen to Carl. He reads a bulletin board, so he knows everything there is to know about everything. You don't even have to ask. He will tell, without invitation and without verification, how superior he is and how inferior you are.
And, if you ever dare challenge him about his knowledge (you know, stuff like "my husband never abused me"), he will call you a liar and will be cheered by all others who post here.
Shut up dumb ass. The adults are having a conversation.
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blujay00,
My suggestion is you take the Dog's anaysis and walk away. He is one of a small group of people on this board who actually read comments and respond with a degree of empathy and thought.
Seriously, say your last bit and go. A longer stay might suggest you actually enjoy this level of abuse...
You're high again aren't you Bob?
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^ Bob? Try Paul.
http://nevada-lost-money.org/data/370+E+HARMON+AVE+APT+M+311+LAS+VEGAS,+NV,+89109/TUMINARO+JEANETTE/61820784.html
Jeanette, you should have never returned here but you just couldn't help yourself and this is not any sort of beneficial therapy for you at all. What you really should do but you never will is to make a clean break now to break this demoralizing cycle you are in - don't you have any friends or family to turn to, preferably miles away from Las Vegas?
Jeanette Tuminaro
June 11 at 9:54am ·
Well, I think it's official. Kirk Whole-Food Plant-Based Tuminaro has been dead a week and several hours, based upon the coroners reported time of death of approximately 4:25am. Of course, that was about 3 1/2 hours after I found him. I tried to stay up last night, but couldn't, so I slept through the time until just a few minutes ago.
As kind as Joe is for offering to let me stay with him, it's going to be hard to deal with him. He doesn't properly bathe or shower, instead he uses cologne and related to bathe in instead. He apparetnly does use the bath, but not in any true bathing sense of the word, and this was the case years ago when he was a roommate. I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to change that, and even if I will be able to. I do, however, plan on introducing natural scents, such as boiling orange peels and cinnamon sticks, so that it helps cut the odor in the small 450 sq ft studio apartment that I will be sharing with him.
Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with a few emotionally unstable person, who is very stubborn and honestly doesn't realize he smells??? I don't want to hurt his feelings. I'm not worried that he would kick me out, but I do worry that he would end up extremely depressed and unwilling to listen, if I weren't able to find the right way to address this. I'm wondering if I shouldn't talk to his doctor during one of his rare visits and ask if a social worker can't come visit, since I no longer have access to a social worker on Kirks behalf.
repeat, rinse and vomit but you'll get defensive again I'm sure.
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Jeanette Tuminaro
June 11 at 9:54am ·
Well, I think it's official. Kirk Whole-Food Plant-Based Tuminaro has been dead a week and several hours, based upon the coroners reported time of death of approximately 4:25am. Of course, that was about 3 1/2 hours after I found him. I tried to stay up last night, but couldn't, so I slept through the time until just a few minutes ago.
As kind as Joe is for offering to let me stay with him, it's going to be hard to deal with him. He doesn't properly bathe or shower, instead he uses cologne and related to bathe in instead. He apparetnly does use the bath, but not in any true bathing sense of the word, and this was the case years ago when he was a roommate. I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to change that, and even if I will be able to. I do, however, plan on introducing natural scents, such as boiling orange peels and cinnamon sticks, so that it helps cut the odor in the small 450 sq ft studio apartment that I will be sharing with him.
Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with a few emotionally unstable person, who is very stubborn and honestly doesn't realize he smells??? I don't want to hurt his feelings. I'm not worried that he would kick me out, but I do worry that he would end up extremely depressed and unwilling to listen, if I weren't able to find the right way to address this. I'm wondering if I shouldn't talk to his doctor during one of his rare visits and ask if a social worker can't come visit, since I no longer have access to a social worker on Kirks behalf.
Oh, good God, Jeanette. You traded one co-dependent loser for another.
So much for your last shred of self-respect.
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Jeanette - please log off and seek the help of a professional. People like Buzz Clik just want to shit on everything and then run and hide. Our advice antagonizes you. If you want to live a true, authentic, happy life of dignity and self-worth, please log off and seek some help. There are people who can and will help you. Surely you would like better for yourself. I wish you well.
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Strength is yours for the taking.
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Is this the co-inhabitant from back in the day,the gay friend that you also waited on?
Please seek some professional help Jeanette,really do mean that and not in any sort of disparaging way.
Buzzy,you have proved yourself to be a typical DUmp shitstain,you don`t care a bit about her but just wanted to stir a pot which you had no idea of the details.
**** you.
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Carl, you seem to be a fairly reasoned person, and I have nothing personal against you. Or, in fact, anyone in this thread. However, please don't tell me that this forum is not without it's faults. I can go back to the first page of this thread and bring up the instances of people talking about my husband committing suicide, or how he may cause the crematorium to catch fire, just to name a couple examples of the hate expressed here. So please, don't try to blame DU for all of the hate, because just doing a search through your forums for LVL shows just a small sample of hatred directed at people who are not welcome on your forums. Your group seems to thrive on hatred for those who need help. And honestly, that makes me think of something that's been attributed to Jesus. I seem to remember something about helping those who need help. I don't remember it well, and I have probably mangled it beyond recognition. I apologize if that's the case. And as for honor, go back to page one of this thread. Very little honor to be had in what was said.
Jeanette... since I was the one that first said that, I want to you to know I was not making fun of Kirk's obesity. Far from it. And it was not HATE! The denizens of the dump equate everything they do not like with "hate". It ain't hate if it is the truth.
What I really meant, and I think Frank understood, was that it would be a hard blow to someone that lost a loved one and to have the crematorium catch on fire when rendering the body to ashes. Yes that has happened before and I posted two examples. It would be on par with the funeral home losing a body or the casket falling out of the hearse on a highway.
I have made fun of Kirks posts on the dump from time to time, just as I do most of the dump denizens. It did not mean I hated him. It just means that sometimes he said the stupidest things on a public forum and I publicly made fun of it. If he didn't want to be publicly made fun of, he should not have posted his thoughts for all to see at the Dump. Again, this is not hate, it is simply the truth.
Kirk came over here one time and I treated him with nothing but respect. I even complimented him on his sense of humor. I think you will find most people here are way more compassionate than you give them credit for. For real hatred, just read the dump.
I was sincere in my condolences to you on your loss and I was sincere when I said RIP Kirk. Now please take some advice. Do not peruse this board anymore. It will only cause you more grief. Give yourself time to heal and get over your loss before you come back.
5 cents please This one is free.
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here's a list of therapists in your area. maybe they can help break the cycle of self destruction that you seem to be hurtling through:
https://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/state/NV/Las+Vegas.html (https://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/state/NV/Las+Vegas.html)
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Jeanette unfortunately's the textbook example of why franksolich has given up on "helping" women being used, misused, and abused, by men.
I used to be real gung-ho about this, because real men don't use, misuse, or abuse women.
But any more, one gets the impression she's asking for it, she wants it.
So.....what is one to do, other than just simply walk away?
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Love is a ****ed up thing. Men and women will stay in a relationship even tho it is killing them.
Now, personally, I don't give a shit about Kirk. He died. It happens. If he was a complete tool or if he was the second coming of Ghandi I would care just about the same.
As for Jeanne, I don't wish anyone had to deal with losing a significant other... and that's where my give a shit factor stops.
Kirk came on here a couple of times. Like most DUmpmonkies he got his ass handed to him and he went away. Now Jeanne is on here bemoaning the fact some people made fun of Kirk.
Jeanne... and I say this with any small sense of caring I can pretend to show- Why do you care?
Who cares what someone might have said about Kirk. If you knew him and loved him then the rest don't matter. Go home and grieve. Then move on. Life is too short to give a flying **** what other people say.
The ****s. They shall not be given this day or anyday.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ec/ec06155ae5641e44c7f45984ff2a4ec4b7b3ea91d6e52f4cd453218c19de03dd.jpg)
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Jeanette unfortunately's the textbook example of why franksolich has given up on "helping" women being used, misused, and abused, by men.
I used to be real gung-ho about this, because real men don't use, misuse, or abuse women.
But any more, one gets the impression she's asking for it, she wants it.
So.....what is one to do, other than just simply walk away?
Send them to DU? :whistling:
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Kirk Whole-Food Plant-Based Tuminaro has been dead a week
That's some middle name the LVL adopted!
Sounds like a politician here in red state hell, Byron Low Tax Looper, who legally changed his name as a campaign strategy.
(That, plus he shot his opponent in the head, killing him.)
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So.....what is one to do, other than just simply walk away?
Hence my advice.
Strength is there for the taking. The mere act itself is liberating and it is not, by definition, a thing that can be provided by others.
So of the subject will not take what is freely theirs what shall the rest of us do?
Not cry, is my suggestion.
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(That, plus he shot his opponent in the head, killing him.)
One of LBJ's favorite tactics. Possibly the Clintons too.
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RIP, Kirk.
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Good grief, now she's moving in with old Joe, the former roommate:
As kind as Joe is for offering to let me stay with him, it's going to be hard to deal with him. He doesn't properly bathe or shower, instead he uses cologne and related to bathe in instead. He apparetnly does use the bath, but not in any true bathing sense of the word, and this was the case years ago when he was a roommate. I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to change that, and even if I will be able to. I do, however, plan on introducing natural scents, such as boiling orange peels and cinnamon sticks, so that it helps cut the odor in the small 450 sq ft studio apartment that I will be sharing with him.
Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with a few emotionally unstable person,
Talk about emotionally unstable!!
She's as crazy as the late lamented LVL.
Finally free from one leech, ready to start with another.
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to respond. First, I truly appreciate the condolences that some of you have expressed toward me with the death of my husband. However, it truly saddens me when I read so many comments full of hate. Calling his death a suicide, saying that he deserved every bit of pain and injury he sustained, that it was entirely his fault that he was on disability.
Comments like the one I quoted. Sorry, we had what? Free food? Ok, we received a monthly food stamp allowance that totaled $103.
<Snip to remove the liberal dribble>
No matter what the amount, it was still free to you, paid for by the hardworking taxpayers. If that was your EBT benefit, that simply proves that your monthly income was much higher then most, even when not working.
I won't bore everyone by posting the EBT charts for the State of Nevada.
Here's the deal. Any sympathy I previously held for you I now retract bluja000. You are just as bad as your dead husband, if not worse. Excuse after excuse, when I actually know how things work.
We have a well known guideline here and we never expect anyone from DU to tell the truth, and this includes you. So you cry about not having enough food, yet were too lazy to fill out the utility assistance paperwork? Your entire post is full of excuses.
I love how you continue to claim "we were better off with me not working." :lmao:
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Good grief, now she's moving in with old Joe, the former roommate:
Talk about emotionally unstable!!
She's as crazy as the late lamented LVL.
Finally free from one leech, ready to start with another.
The bed bugs will keep her company at night.
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Carl, you seem to be a fairly reasoned person, and I have nothing personal against you. Or, in fact, anyone in this thread. However, please don't tell me that this forum is not without it's faults. I can go back to the first page of this thread and bring up the instances of people talking about my husband committing suicide, or how he may cause the crematorium to catch fire, just to name a couple examples of the hate expressed here. So please, don't try to blame DU for all of the hate, because just doing a search through your forums for LVL shows just a small sample of hatred directed at people who are not welcome on your forums. Your group seems to thrive on hatred for those who need help. And honestly, that makes me think of something that's been attributed to Jesus. I seem to remember something about helping those who need help. I don't remember it well, and I have probably mangled it beyond recognition. I apologize if that's the case. And as for honor, go back to page one of this thread. Very little honor to be had in what was said.
You said:
He took the last few pills, because he had been in so much pain for so long, he just wanted a little relief.
He died of a drug overdose. Plain & simple.....
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A long winded chain of more excuses
Oh boo ****ing hoo you DUmbass bitch. Your type have mastered the art of grave dancing and have posted much worse when a conservative has passed than you'll ever see here and you have the unmitigated gall to come here and read us the riot act. Get this bitch....you and your ilk are my enemy and the enemies of the country that I love, America. I want to see you dead in the most painful and lingering way possible. I want to see you suffer greatly for what you and your type have unleashed upon this country and the world. The world gets a little better when one of you is turned into worm food.
In short, I will celebrate when any of you waste of skin oxygen thieves assume room temperature because it means there is one less enemy that exists in the world.
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Oh boo ****ing hoo you DUmbass bitch. Your type have mastered the art of grave dancing and have posted much worse when a conservative has passed than you'll ever see here and you have the unmitigated gall to come here and read us the riot act. Get this bitch....you and your ilk are my enemy and the enemies of the country that I love, America. I want to see you dead in the most painful and lingering way possible. I want to see you suffer greatly for what you and your type have unleashed upon this country and the world. The world gets a little better when one of you is turned into worm food.
In short, I will celebrate when any of you waste of skin oxygen thieves assume room temperature because it means there is one less enemy that exists in the world.
:cheersmate:
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Jeanette, please read what you posted. You posted the Kirk chose to take narcotics in an amount that was sufficient to "end his pain". That means one of two things. Either he knowingly took enough narcotic medication to ensure he would never wake up, or that he foolishly, and without medical prescription or supervision, took an amount of a narcotic that rendered him in a state where he couldn't feel the pain. Either way, what you are describing is a suicide. Whether it was intentional or an accident doesn't really matter.
Others on this forum are urging you to get out of Vegas and at least find a better class of loser to hang out with. That is what is called good advice. I think your family is in Phoenix, if memory serves, and however they are living, it has to beat moving into a tiny studio apartment with a man who has no functional sense of hygiene. Go home. Grieve your loss. Don't make your situation even worse.
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Jeanette, please read what you posted. You posted the Kirk chose to take narcotics in an amount that was sufficient to "end his pain". That means one of two things. Either he knowingly took enough narcotic medication to ensure he would never wake up, or that he foolishly, and without medical prescription or supervision, took an amount of a narcotic that rendered him in a state where he couldn't feel the pain. Either way, what you are describing is a suicide. Whether it was intentional or an accident doesn't really matter.
Others on this forum are urging you to get out of Vegas and at least find a better class of loser to hang out with. That is what is called good advice. I think your family is in Phoenix, if memory serves, and however they are living, it has to beat moving into a tiny studio apartment with a man who has no functional sense of hygiene. Go home. Grieve your loss. Don't make your situation even worse.
My mother lives in Florida. I won't live with her. We absolutely don't get along. She's dealing with her own loss, which happened over a year ago. She has not sought help to deal with her own grief, and she's always lamenting over whether she should keep her job, or whether her job will even still keep her as time goes by.
My brother lives in temporary housing in Mississippi. While training to be a doctor, he spends 10+ hours working as an intern, six, sometimes seven days a week. He is rooming with three other men, and moves around as the military requires. He helps me as much as he can, but he's limited due to the requirements of both his training, and the military.
My sister, I'm not sure where she's located. She's home schooling six children, who range in age from, I believe, age 4 to age 15. I'm not sure, I haven't kept up with the ages of her children. She's barely managing to support her family, even though she has access to military benefits through her husband.
This is my family. I was living in Arizona years ago, before meeting Kirk. I had no family there, and the one friend I had there is currently unavailable. Sure, I could uproot myself, I've done it all my life. However, I do have to consider my cats. Therefore, I will stay with Joe. I have already explained to him that I'm going to be working to get him support to improve his life and situation. I'm not simply moving in with him because I'm left with no choice. I could possibly leave my two cats with him, and go elsewhere (I've been homeless, not really scared of that even).
I do appreciate the advice given in the last comments. I have to work within the strictures of my insurance, unless I'm able to get work that offers insurance. I still have no information about the mystery computer job. But hey, if someone knows of a job opening for someone to work with animals, with no formal training, let me know. I would jump at an opportunity like that. And yes, I will be looking for those type of jobs, as well as anything else available. Fast food jobs suck, but hey, it's work.
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The best advice I can give you right now is stay off of here and ESPECIALLY stay off DU.
If you constantly come back here to see the latest posts on this thread or what those losers at DU are whinging about you'll never move on nor will you be able to find a job or take care of the other things that need to get done. Un subscribe to both places and take care of yourself.
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I still have no information about the mystery computer job.
The computer job opening was a couple years ago, at which time your husband declined to reply to the person (a Las Vegas resident) for the details. He later publicly posted here, on CC, that he was not interested in the job.
I have no knowledge if the place is still hiring, but it was at Wells Fargo in Henderson. The mortgage division. It involved processing documents.
Hopefully that clears up your questions.
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Low skill animal related jobs? be a dog walker! Great exercise and you'll get to mingle with people that can afford to have their dogs walked. Who knows, it might even pay enough to get you out of the welfare too.
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Tucson!!
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Oh boo ****ing hoo you DUmbass bitch. Your type have mastered the art of grave dancing and have posted much worse when a conservative has passed than you'll ever see here and you have the unmitigated gall to come here and read us the riot act. Get this bitch....you and your ilk are my enemy and the enemies of the country that I love, America. I want to see you dead in the most painful and lingering way possible. I want to see you suffer greatly for what you and your type have unleashed upon this country and the world. The world gets a little better when one of you is turned into worm food.
In short, I will celebrate when any of you waste of skin oxygen thieves assume room temperature because it means there is one less enemy that exists in the world.
Come on Zathras. Tell us how you really feel..... and don't hold anything back now, either! :tongue:
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My mother lives in Florida. I won't live with her. We absolutely don't get along. She's dealing with her own loss, which happened over a year ago. She has not sought help to deal with her own grief, and she's always lamenting over whether she should keep her job, or whether her job will even still keep her as time goes by.
My brother lives in temporary housing in Mississippi. While training to be a doctor, he spends 10+ hours working as an intern, six, sometimes seven days a week. He is rooming with three other men, and moves around as the military requires. He helps me as much as he can, but he's limited due to the requirements of both his training, and the military.
My sister, I'm not sure where she's located. She's home schooling six children, who range in age from, I believe, age 4 to age 15. I'm not sure, I haven't kept up with the ages of her children. She's barely managing to support her family, even though she has access to military benefits through her husband.
This is my family. I was living in Arizona years ago, before meeting Kirk. I had no family there, and the one friend I had there is currently unavailable. Sure, I could uproot myself, I've done it all my life. However, I do have to consider my cats. Therefore, I will stay with Joe. I have already explained to him that I'm going to be working to get him support to improve his life and situation. I'm not simply moving in with him because I'm left with no choice. I could possibly leave my two cats with him, and go elsewhere (I've been homeless, not really scared of that even).
I do appreciate the advice given in the last comments. I have to work within the strictures of my insurance, unless I'm able to get work that offers insurance. I still have no information about the mystery computer job. But hey, if someone knows of a job opening for someone to work with animals, with no formal training, let me know. I would jump at an opportunity like that. And yes, I will be looking for those type of jobs, as well as anything else available. Fast food jobs suck, but hey, it's work.
And you don't see a pattern?
Conservatives embrace family values, hard work, inculcating their children in the values of family , God, morality, hard work and responsibility. You don't see their families scattered across the cultural and familial firmament like some sort of badly driven Indy car's wreckage. Yeah, there is a steering problem from time to time, but only because the bar is set high.
When the bar is set so low, then there is nothing to aspire to.
Fast food work is work (for now -- when the $15 minimum wage hits the robots kick in and those jobs won't exist, trust me) -- but who spends an entire lifetime working towards that lofty goal? Answer: The lazy and the stupid.
So, you have told us and all what we need to know about how liberal families exist: from moment to moment, paycheck to paycheck (more like EBT refill to EBT refill), baby mama to baby mama (and/or abortion to abortion).
Hard work and planning are NOT in that landscape.
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Here she is: offering excuses all over again. Yeah, she'll move in with Stinky, because she will not look anywhere else.
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And you don't see a pattern?
Conservatives embrace family values, hard work, inculcating their children in the values of family , God, morality, hard work and responsibility. You don't see their families scattered across the cultural and familial firmament like some sort of badly driven Indy car's wreckage. Yeah, there is a steering problem from time to time, but only because the bar is set high.
When the bar is set so low, then there is nothing to aspire to.
Fast food work is work (for now -- when the $15 minimum wage hits the robots kick in and those jobs won't exist, trust me) -- but who spends an entire lifetime working towards that lofty goal? Answer: The lazy and the stupid.
So, you have told us and all what we need to know about how liberal families exist: from moment to moment, paycheck to paycheck (more like EBT refill to EBT refill), baby mama to baby mama (and/or abortion to abortion).
Hard work and planning are NOT in that landscape.
She says she wants to work with animals. Someone should ask her about the veterinarians she has visited, the humane society where she could donate time and meet prospective employers, or the dog groomers that may have some work. It won't be me, though. Moving from one guy that had serious issues to another guy with serious issues even when she has enough information to tell her that it's an idiotic idea is telling us all we need to know.
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She says she wants to work with animals. Someone should ask her about the veterinarians she has visited, the humane society where she could donate time and meet prospective employers, or the dog groomers that may have some work. It won't be me, though. Moving from one guy that had serious issues to another guy with serious issues even when she has enough information to tell her that it's an idiotic idea is telling us all we need to know.
The only animal she has to offer is an awful-smelling foul and diseased *****. But it keeps her fed and a roof (of sorts) over her head. Like most liberals just a bit lower scale.
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The only animal she has to offer is an awful-smelling foul and diseased *****. But it keeps her fed and a roof (of sorts) over her head. Like most liberals just a bit lower scale.
It's what she had in her worthless husband so why would she change when the same thing becomes available to replace it.
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Guys, the LVL was just trying to be trendy. Let's cut him some slack..
https://www.yahoo.com/health/deaths-from-drug-overdoses-rise-across-america-121757195727.html (https://www.yahoo.com/health/deaths-from-drug-overdoses-rise-across-america-121757195727.html)
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Guys, the LVL was just trying to be trendy. Let's cut him some slack..
https://www.yahoo.com/health/deaths-from-drug-overdoses-rise-across-america-121757195727.html (https://www.yahoo.com/health/deaths-from-drug-overdoses-rise-across-america-121757195727.html)
Sad but true. I've seen a lot of this in the past few years. Part of it I think is our "disability culture" as everyone is claiming they are "in pain & can't work." Now I understand there are legitimate reasons for pain killers and some people do need to take them on a daily basis, the drugs have been over prescribed and abused for years. There is big money in selling your extra pain killers to friends, family & junkies.
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Is he still dead?
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Is he still dead?
Oh now, don't scare us like that.
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Oh now, don't scare us like that.
There really should be a webcam focused on his lazyboy until the gofundme account raises enough to collect the body.
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There really should be a webcam focused on his lazyboy until the gofundme account raises enough to collect the body.
:lmao: