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Title: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: CC27 on January 30, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
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Star Member hobbit709 (33,592 posts)

I am now $2865.17 poorer.


Paid my property taxes

Thought DUmmies liked money going to government? Guess not when its their own money. Tons of bitching on this post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026152939
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Gina on January 30, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Wow, he's boasting isn't he?
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
Wow, he's boasting isn't he?

Depends on where he lives.  In the People's Republic of New Jersey and a lot of the mid-Atlantic, that would be about a nice 2BR bungalow on a quarter acre lot.  I hate to think how little house it would go with in coastal Kalifornistan.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Carl on January 30, 2015, 11:58:10 AM
Between school and county I paid around $5500.00 last year in property taxes. :banghead:
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 30, 2015, 12:06:33 PM
When the DUmmies vote for free government stuff they don't expect to have to pay for it themselves.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: 67 Rover on January 30, 2015, 12:15:03 PM
I pay almost that much per quarter.  :censored:

Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Maxiest on January 30, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
What is said dummie doing at the DU?  Sounds to me like DUmmie is rich.  Lives in Texas.

And there is a nice little inbreed fighting there between DUmmies.

They are bitching about it being so high because of corporations, blah blah blah.  Yet FBaggins uses a little logic:

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Star Member csziggy (17,492 posts)
14. It can be counted as corporate welfare when corporations are tax free to lure them in

Some areas try to get corporations to move their operations in by giving tax incentives - no property tax, no corporate taxes. Say a Walmart is invited to your area on the condition they pay no taxes at all for 10 years - who is going to make up the difference between what had been paid on that property and what is now not being paid? Everyone else.

That is "corporate welfare" - and it's not happening just in Texas.

Uh oh... someone explains it for them...

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FBaggins (13,969 posts)
16. See my 15

It isn't anywhere close to "most".

Also... as objectionable as such deals can be, they're usually not done on land that paid much in property taxes to begin with. When Walmart gets such a deal, the bulk of the taxable valuation of the property is because there's now a Walmart sitting on top of it... so the county is waiving taxes that it wouldn't get if it weren't for the deal.

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FBaggins (13,969 posts)
67. What's your point?

If a county makes a deal with a developer (homes/stores/factories/whatever) to turn $300/year/acre in taxes into $3,000/year/acre in taxes... but waives those taxes for the first five years... it doesn't cost them $3,000 per year for each acre. It costs them $300... because they wouldn't get any more than that unless someone puts something more valuable there.

Where such policies become questionable is when the business would have moved there anyway and is using the leverage of implies incentives elsewhere to squeeze the county. They're also bad policy because their general availability makes it easier for businesses to squeeze the next county.

I see Pizza in your future.

I was just thinking while reading this, isn't it interesting how when DUmmies taxes go up it's because of evil corporations or church's as stated in the thread.   Yet when they ask they so called "rich" to pay more it's to help the needy.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: njpines on January 30, 2015, 04:29:49 PM
Depends on where he lives.  In the People's Republic of New Jersey and a lot of the mid-Atlantic, that would be about a nice 2BR bungalow on a quarter acre lot.  I hate to think how little house it would go with in coastal Kalifornistan.

Yeah, no kidding!  :(
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on January 30, 2015, 05:31:50 PM
My property taxes are ~$250 per year. I have slightly over 1 acre out in the country with a 3BR 3BA ranch style home.

My neighbor across the road is in the local democrat run county. They pay over $1,000 per year.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Texacon on January 30, 2015, 06:31:25 PM
Hobbit should feel blessed that he is affluent enough to afford such a luxury property. LOL

KC
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Post by: diesel driver on January 30, 2015, 07:48:46 PM
My total tax bill for Real Estate/Personal Property taxes in this county was just shy of $1,000.

$500 of that was on my "new" 2013 Tahoe I bought last November.   :argh:

Another $250 for my 2008 Forest River 26' Camper, that I tow with my 2013 Tahoe, because a Prius won't.   :rotf:

The rest for 4 acres of land, my house, 3 outbuildings, 2 other cars, a pickup truck, a small trailer, various tools, and a 4-wheeler.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: miskie on January 30, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
Sorry primitive. You are a landowner, therefore you are part of the 1%. Pay your taxes.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on January 30, 2015, 08:03:55 PM
Sorry primitive. You are a landowner, therefore you are part of the 1%. Pay your taxes.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: diesel driver on January 30, 2015, 08:07:06 PM
Sorry primitive. You are a landowner, therefore you are part of the 1%. Pay your taxes FAIR SHARE!.

Fixed it.   :-)
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: miskie on January 30, 2015, 08:09:46 PM
Fixed it.   :-)

much appreciated :D
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 30, 2015, 08:13:05 PM
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Star Member hobbit709 (33,592 posts)

I am now $2865.17 poorer.


Paid my property taxes

Embrace the suck, dummie.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: HawkHogan on January 30, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
My brother pays about 9gs in property in taxes in Jersey and he's in a townhouse. 

What an awful, awful state. 
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on January 30, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
My brother pays about 9gs in property in taxes in Jersey and he's in a townhouse. 

What an awful, awful state.

He did choose to live there.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 30, 2015, 10:40:34 PM
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Star Member hobbit709 (33,592 posts)

I am now $2865.17 poorer.


Paid my property taxes

Keep thinking that way and you might wake up on day and realize you are a conservative.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: HawkHogan on January 30, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
He did choose to live there.

Eh, he's in the process of moving out of that state.  NJ Property taxes are awful, but PA's taxes are almost just as bad. 
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 30, 2015, 11:44:28 PM
You DUmmies wanted it. No? You get what you wished for.

:ownit:
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on January 30, 2015, 11:57:35 PM
I was just thinking while reading this, isn't it interesting how when DUmmies taxes go up it's because of evil corporations or church's as stated in the thread.   Yet when they ask they so called "rich" to pay more it's to help the needy.

Irony recognition and self-awareness are not LIbEral strong points.  I think they should start home schooling.   :-)
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Maxiest on January 31, 2015, 12:34:47 AM
Irony recognition and self-awareness are not LIbEral strong points.  I think they should start home schooling.   :-)

When one becomes a liberal, he or she pretends to advocate tolerance, equality and peace, but hilariously, they’re doing so for purely selfish reasons. It’s the human equivalent of a puppy dog’s face: an evolutionary tool designed to enhance survival, reproductive value and status. In short, liberalism is based on one central desire: to look cool in front of others in order to get love. Preaching tolerance makes you look cooler, than saying something like, “please lower my taxes” — Greg Gutfeld
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: delilahmused on January 31, 2015, 01:40:44 AM
My property taxes are ~$250 per year. I have slightly over 1 acre out in the country with a 3BR 3BA ranch style home.

My neighbor across the road is in the local democrat run county. They pay over $1,000 per year.

Oregon's property taxes are ridiculous.

Cindie
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on January 31, 2015, 09:35:47 AM
Eh, he's in the process of moving out of that state.  NJ Property taxes are awful, but PA's taxes are almost just as bad.

All good decisions start when bad decisions are realized (or bad situations develop). He's on the right path. I wish him luck.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: docstew on January 31, 2015, 10:00:12 AM
My wife owns a condo in Rockford, IL, that we don't live in (her brother lives there right now) because we are in NC. The condo is valued at about $50k (yes, we are WAY underwater on this). Property taxes for this property are approx $3800/yr. And this is a "conservative" part of the state (word in quotations because the people that live there don't know the meaning). Yet they advocate the local gov't doing everything for them.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Texacon on January 31, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
Eh, he's in the process of moving out of that state.  NJ Property taxes are awful, but PA's taxes are almost just as bad.

Isn't NJ the state that has the ridiculous, 'Exit Tax'?

KC
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: freedumb2003b on January 31, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
Wow, he's boasting isn't he?

It is average for here in the Dallas area.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: freedumb2003b on January 31, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
There is a LOT of funny stuff there -- the hypocrisy is palpable.  But THIS one I loved:
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Art_from_Ark (21,216 posts)
46. Arkansas has a freeze on property tax for seniors, too

My mom has been paying Arkansas property tax for more than 50 years, and her folks paid it for 35 years, so she and they certainly have paid their fair share

So "fair share" has a time test -- who knew? Property taxes pay by and large for ONGOING expenses.  If you house catches fire tomorrow, you need Firemen then, not back when you paid "your fair share" for it.

Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Karin on January 31, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Me too, Carl.  It's a shitload of money for normal people.  I cannot stand property taxes.  It causes old people to lose their houses.  How heartless can you get? 
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Post by: HawkHogan on January 31, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
Isn't NJ the state that has the ridiculous, 'Exit Tax'?

KC

I just looked it up.  They do have an exit tax.  What an awful state. 

I'm pretty sure a lot of the celebrities in NJ pay no property tax because they put emus on their property.  They find every type of loop hole to avoid taxes.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Maxiest on January 31, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
I just looked it up.  They do have an exit tax.  What an awful state. 

I'm pretty sure a lot of the celebrities in NJ pay no property tax because they put emus on their property.  They find every type of loop hole to avoid taxes.

Liberal celebrities????? NEVER!!! EleVeNTy!!!!
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Carl on January 31, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
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Response to hobbit709 (Original post)

Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:43 AM

Tracer (1,982 posts)
61. If that's your year's bill, I'd like to pay that.

I wrote a check yesterday for $1,704.55, but that's just one payment out of 4 that I pay during the year for a total of $6,818.20.

It's not that I object to supporting my town's schools, fire and police etc., but my town comes up with more ideas on how to spend our tax money than I can count.

And it's always explained away by the argument that it ONLY adds X amount of dollars to our tax bills.

All those X amounts really add up over the years.



All the no brain celled idiot,DUmbfuks that rant on that thread about how it is terrible because a wealthy entity should be paying instead need to read that post,although it might as well be in a foreign language to them.

Few have a quarrel with taxes that can be shown to fund legitimate civil needs.
It is when taxes collected to pay for schools do nothing but enrich and bloat a public employee union,full of do nothing dues payers with nothing to show for it,that  the makers of the country revolt.

This DUmbass perfectly describes liberal government,a creature that exists to feed and expand itself.
No doubt it is still too stupid to realize its own knowledge because it prefers to be a victim that wants wealth poured on it just for existing.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Carl on January 31, 2015, 06:37:29 PM
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Response to hobbit709 (Original post)

Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:03 PM

AZ Progressive (1,152 posts)
119. Lets be honest, you don't actually own your house in America

Even if you "pay down" your house, if you don't pay your property taxes, guess what? County seizes your house.

The most you can hope for if you "pay down" your house is that your just merely reducing your rental payments, hopefully to a low amount.

Yet you post on a site that wants governments to do nothing but grow and grow all the while thinking some unknown "rich" person is going to pay for it.

Stupid ****.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Maxiest on January 31, 2015, 09:17:22 PM
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Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: BEG on February 01, 2015, 01:25:39 AM
I just paid $11k in Austin Texas
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: obumazombie on February 01, 2015, 02:56:20 AM
What do you want to bet that he was somehow able to skip paying that tax bill in previous years ?
Or, that he owes even more in property taxes that he has no intention to pay.
How is he poorer ?
According to libs paying taxes makes everyone richer.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Texacon on February 01, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
As we all know, threads like these put the liberal mind on full display. Taxes for thee, not ME!

They are the biggest hypocrites on the planet when it comes to taxes. Anything that taxes them is 'regressive', no matter their income level. Anyone who makes a dollar more is 'wealthy' and should be taxed out if existence.

**** them.

KC
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on February 01, 2015, 12:47:16 PM
I just paid $11k in Austin Texas

You must own a mansion for that amount of tax. Or, you live in or near a liberal/commie/democrat cesspool.  :-)
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: freedumb2003b on February 01, 2015, 01:57:40 PM
You must own a mansion for that amount of tax. Or, you live in or near a liberal/commie/democrat cesspool.  :-)

Read her again -- AUSTIN.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on February 01, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
Read her again -- AUSTIN.

Is Austin a liberal/commie/democrat cesspool? I don't know enough about Texas to know this for myself.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: freedumb2003b on February 01, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
Is Austin a liberal/commie/democrat cesspool? I don't know enough about Texas to know this for myself.

LOL -- yes.  It is a single rathole in Texas (although Dallas and Houston are getting close).

The only thing that makes Austin worthwhile is BEG lives there.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on February 01, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
LOL -- yes.  It is a single rathole in Texas (although Dallas and Houston are getting close).

The only thing that makes Austin worthwhile is BEG lives there.

I must agree.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: RobJohnson on February 02, 2015, 05:06:38 AM
My wife owns a condo in Rockford, IL, that we don't live in (her brother lives there right now) because we are in NC. The condo is valued at about $50k (yes, we are WAY underwater on this). Property taxes for this property are approx $3800/yr. And this is a "conservative" part of the state (word in quotations because the people that live there don't know the meaning). Yet they advocate the local gov't doing everything for them.

Rockford has always had a history of crazy expensive property taxes. Some other areas are catching up. One friend of mine is paying over 4K in property taxes on a modest home in Moline, IL with not much of a lot.

In the 80's my parents were paying over 2k a year on a home on 1.3 acres in a rural area. The current taxes are now 5K.

 I could never afford the home I have now if it was in one of those areas.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on February 02, 2015, 08:54:46 AM
In Indiana, by state law, property taxes are limited to a percentage of the assessed value. In my area, it runs at 1% or less. My assessed value is low at this time because it has not been re-appraised since 2003 and I have made many improvements that the assessors cannot see from the outside. When we decide to sell, that will change.
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Wineslob on February 02, 2015, 09:05:23 PM
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Star Member csziggy (17,492 posts)
14. It can be counted as corporate welfare when corporations are tax free to lure them in

Some areas try to get corporations to move their operations in by giving tax incentives - no property tax, no corporate taxes. Say a Walmart is invited to your area on the condition they pay no taxes at all for 10 years - who is going to make up the difference between what had been paid on that property and what is now not being paid? Everyone else.

That is "corporate welfare" - and it's not happening just in Texas.


So, the employees that would get jobs, taxes, no?
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: J P Sousa on February 02, 2015, 10:18:48 PM
My real estate tax is $9700.00/yr for 75' X 120' lot 4 bed 2 1/2 baths  in socialist state of PA., where I can only buy the liquor the state says I can have.  :bawl:

My wife doesn't want to move.  :bawl:
Title: Re: I am now $2865.17 poorer.
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on February 02, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
My real estate tax is $9700.00/yr for 75' X 120' lot 4 bed 2 1/2 baths  in socialist state of PA., where I can only buy the liquor the state says I can have.  :bawl:

My wife doesn't want to move.  :bawl:

Make her pay the tax. She will changer her mind.  :-)