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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: farmer on August 21, 2017, 08:14:41 PM
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Are we headed for a second civil war?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-walker-second-civil-war-20170820-story.html
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Nope. Next question.
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I expect to see trade wars, foreign policy disasters, a few race riots, a decrease in personal liberty, higher taxes, higher inflation and probably, economic collapse. The silver lining is, secession will probably become more feasible.
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Just to give you a short serious answer, it won't happen because there isn't a regional division, or enough of one, for two polarized sides to draw on a territorial base and form a proto-state on reasonably safe territory, the two sides and the middle are completely intermingled without an overwhelming regional issue (And an equally-powerful motive to oppose it outside the region) to define a conflict around which such a war could crystallize.
Also, so many people on each side are big-talking keyboard commandos who in fact are completely dependent on the central government remaining intact, with its banking, transportation, and distribution network, that despite the absurdly threatening and self-proclaimed bad-assery there aren't very many people committed to either side who are willing to throw away everything they have and put their lives on the line.
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Just to give you a short serious answer, it won't happen because there isn't a regional division, or enough of one, for two polarized sides to draw on a territorial base and form a proto-state on reasonably safe territory, the two sides and the middle are completely intermingled without an overwhelming regional issue (And an equally-powerful motive to oppose it outside the region) to define a conflict around which such a war could crystallize.
Also, so many people on each side are big-talking keyboard commandos who in fact are completely dependent on the central government remaining intact, with its banking, transportation, and distribution network, that despite the absurdly threatening and self-proclaimed bad-assery there aren't very many people committed to either side who are willing to throw away everything they have and put their lives on the line.
I wouldn't bother with serious answers with this guy DAT. He's going to give you some one liner he thinks is deep somehow. I wonder what his DU name is?
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What happens when the EBT and ATM cards don't work?
https://www.leaprate.com/news/total-economic-collapse-35-quadrillion-zimbabwe-dollars-now-worth-1-us-dollar/
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What happens when the EBT and ATM cards don't work?
https://www.leaprate.com/news/total-economic-collapse-35-quadrillion-zimbabwe-dollars-now-worth-1-us-dollar/
Ya see?
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The right of revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of oppression, if they are strong enough, whether by withdrawal from it, or by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable.
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I wouldn't bother with serious answers with this guy DAT. He's going to give you some one liner he thinks is deep somehow. I wonder what his DU name is?
I agree, already came to that conclusion, really. Just tired of the inflammatory panicky BS and decided to make an exception to policy and give him one real response. Pearls before swine, though, as demonstrated.
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I agree, already came to that conclusion, really. Just tired of the inflammatory panicky BS and decided to make an exception to policy and give him one real response. Pearls before swine, though, as demonstrated.
I'm still trying to figure out if he's a troll or just good ol' fashioned dumb. I was leaning towards dumb but I'm starting to swing the other way.
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Torn on that one myself. A couple of other possibilities come to mind, none of them any more positive.
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The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.
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In the country of the normally-sighted, the guy with myopia doesn't make all that great an impression.
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Confucius say… never take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
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You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack. He is a Ron Paul fan after all.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.
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When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
My plagiarism-checker site says your quote is 13-words short of an adequate assessment... so I added 13 random words. The result?? ...Significant plagiarism was detected.
But, to be fair, your 'right to revolution' comment contained no detectable plagiarism... only a comma misuse and a passive voice misuse.
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You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack. He is a Ron Paul fan after all.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.
Isn't Ron Paul busy counting his money? Sorta fell off the radar screen...
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Isn't Ron Paul busy counting his money? Sorta fell off the radar screen...
I have heard him . . . Hawking a food dehydrator on radio programs. :whistling:
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You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack. He is a Ron Paul fan after all.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.
We are. ;)
The 'No slack' version is a LOT uglier.
:-)
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You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.
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You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.
Cherry pie. I really like cherry pie.
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We the people are the rightful master of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
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We the people are the rightful master of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
You can't beat pecan pie made with fresh pecans.
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You can't beat pecan pie made with fresh pecans.
Infidel! Apostate! Heretic! I stand with Eupher, cherry pie rules!
Unless of course blueberry pie is available...
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You can't beat pecan pie made with fresh pecans.
I like it with vanilla ice cream. Ok it's official. This thread is now about pie.
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Infidel! Apostate! Heretic! I stand with Eupher, cherry pie rules!
Unless of course blueberry pie is available...
I love pumpkin pie but rarely get to have it since it is just Mrs. FD and I and a whole pie is too much and just goes bad. I haven't had a family Thanksgiving in 10+ years as my family is too scattered and my wife from Mexico where they don't celebrate it.
There are no Marie Callanders around so my options are limited.
*sigh*
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I love pumpkin pie but rarely get to have it since it is just Mrs. FD and I and a whole pie is too much and just goes bad. I haven't had a family Thanksgiving in 10+ years as my family is too scattered and my wife from Mexico where they don't celebrate it.
There are no Marie Callanders around so my options are limited.
*sigh*
There's always sweet potato pie - slightly different texture, but doable.
A whole pumpkin/sweet potato pie is NEVER too much when you've got real whipped cream. A dab of vanilla and a tiny bit of sugar -- not too much.
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There's always sweet potato pie - slightly different texture, but doable.
A whole pumpkin/sweet potato pie is NEVER too much when you've got real whipped cream. A dab of vanilla and a tiny bit of sugar -- not too much.
I appreciate it, but sweet potatoes don't work for me -- bad reaction when I was a kid. Even so, I have the same portion issue: I can't get just a slice of pie anywhere, except for cheesecake which isn't a "pie" in my book.
My cross to bear *siiiiiiigh* ;)
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Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.
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Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.
Confucius say… man who have last laugh, not get joke
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Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
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Hey farmer what do you think of the current state of corn prices?
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There's never been a good government.
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I appreciate it, but sweet potatoes don't work for me -- bad reaction when I was a kid. Even so, I have the same portion issue: I can't get just a slice of pie anywhere, except for cheesecake which isn't a "pie" in my book.
My cross to bear *siiiiiiigh* ;)
I've also had pies made of yellow-fleshed squash, like butternut, prepped like pumpkin. tastes a whole lot like pumpkin pie. Maybe you could try that. My wife and the one kid living here aren't big pie lovers, they prefer even more sugar/chocolate-laden desserts, so I usually end up eating at least half of any pies I cook...not too difficult if I have a slice for my breakfast a few days in a row, and an odd snack on one on one or two days. And yeah, I do make most of the pies that get baked in my house.
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/06/nsa-whistleblower-spy-agencies-eavesdrop-on-americans-without-warrants-all-the-time/
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I've also had pies made of yellow-fleshed squash, like butternut, prepped like pumpkin. tastes a whole lot like pumpkin pie. Maybe you could try that. My wife and the one kid living here aren't big pie lovers, they prefer even more sugar/chocolate-laden desserts, so I usually end up eating at least half of any pies I cook...not too difficult if I have a slice for my breakfast a few days in a row, and an odd snack on one on one or two days. And yeah, I do make most of the pies that get baked in my house.
Ah, another timeless talent! Tell me, do ya use lard in your crusts? Or Crisco?
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The worst evils which mankind has ever had to endure were inflicted by bad governments. The state can be and has often been in the course of history the main source of mischief and disaster.
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Ah, another timeless talent! Tell me, do ya use lard in your crusts? Or Crisco?
I haven't made a pie from scratch (yes, I can bake pies and cheesecakes!) in 20-plus years. I used Crisco then.
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Ah, another timeless talent! Tell me, do ya use lard in your crusts? Or Crisco?
I just by pie shells and rolled crusts for the top. I've made pastry shells from scratch (Using butter for the shortening), it just didn't taste enough better than the pre-made ones to make the effort worth it.
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
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I just by pie shells and rolled crusts for the top. I've made pastry shells from scratch (Using butter for the shortening), it just didn't taste enough better than the pre-made ones to make the effort worth it.
Well, I go the whole route if I'm gonna do fruit pies. Try to get fruit from the farmer's market, or someplace where the stuff tastes like fruit instead of cardboard. The fruit filling is pretty simple.
The crust is a bit of a PITA, but if you use ice water and don't wrestle with the dough like your average MMA fighter wrestles with his opponent, that's pretty simple too. Cleanup is the biggest hassle, IMHO.
Just don't ask me to bake that kinda stuff every day.
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I prefer the pizza variety of pie.
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What difference is it to me if a decision is forced upon me by a dictator or by half of my neighbors? Either way my right to free, peaceful action has been nullified.
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Confucius say, woman who fly upside down have crackup
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Well, I go the whole route if I'm gonna do fruit pies. Try to get fruit from the farmer's market, or someplace where the stuff tastes like fruit instead of cardboard. The fruit filling is pretty simple.
The crust is a bit of a PITA, but if you use ice water and don't wrestle with the dough like your average MMA fighter wrestles with his opponent, that's pretty simple too. Cleanup is the biggest hassle, IMHO.
Just don't ask me to bake that kinda stuff every day.
A lot of work but probably a lot of reward.
If I can't have pumpkin, then cherry works well for me :)
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For some bizarre reason I've been craving coconut cream lately. No idea why.
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For some bizarre reason I've been craving coconut cream lately. No idea why.
You musta been to the farmer's market. :whistling: :tongue: :wink:
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For some bizarre reason I've been craving coconut cream lately. No idea why.
Watching Gilligan's Island reruns?
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You musta been to the farmer's market. :whistling: :tongue: :wink:
Nah. That shit's too healthy.
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The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.