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Title: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Freeper on April 15, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
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klook
 
I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to set gasoline prices

I mean, since the Republicans keep saying Obama is responsible for high gas prices, why don't we codify it and make him actually responsible for gas prices? The law would be very simple:
"Gasoline prices in the United States will be set at the sole discretion of the President, with no oversight from anybody."

So then the President could actually guarantee that gasoline would cost $2.50 a gallon, or 3 cents a gallon, or 15 dollars a gallon -- whatever he feels like. Simple.

The discussions of such a proposal in Congress and the media could be most enlightening. We might even see some reporting about the real reasons for high gasoline prices.

I know, I know -- but I can dream, can't I?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002568314

No matter how hard you try to spin it, 0bama gets the blame for gas prices, it is his energy department that is trying their best to kill the oil industry.

Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: thundley4 on April 15, 2012, 09:37:46 PM
If he set the price too low, companies would leave the business or just start selling gas on the black market while not delivering to the gas stations.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on April 15, 2012, 09:46:37 PM
If he set the price too low, companies would leave the business or just start selling gas on the black market while not delivering to the gas stations.

Shh.  Don't confuse the primitive with logic.  It thinks that it made a good point.  This is obviously an unterprimitiven and needs time to develop if it ever hopes to reach nadin-level stupidity.  Confusing it at this point could stunt its "growth".
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: obumazombie on April 15, 2012, 09:47:06 PM
Price controls. Central economic planning. Libs think they come up with original ideas that are in reality total failures.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: sybilll on April 15, 2012, 11:48:07 PM
Whether they openly advocate it, or are so indoctrinated that they can't even see it, these people are wannabe communists.  Feeble-minded government teat sucking parasites. 
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Elspeth on April 15, 2012, 11:54:54 PM
Whether they openly advocate it, or are so indoctrinated that they can't even see it, these people are wannabe communists. 

Yup.  Actually they are communists in the Stalinist mold: they want a big daddy to have all the power to control business, industry, education, health care and anything else that should be kept private.  Of course, what the DUmmies don't remember is that the big totalitarian daddy can then kill millions and millions of people and dump political prisoners in gulags.

You give up responsibility, you become sheep to the slaughter, DUmmies.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: jukin on April 16, 2012, 12:49:39 AM
The DUchebags will be sorely disappointed if 0bama sets the price. He has stated $5 gas is OK but would prefer the price of $10 that europe suffers under.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: txradioguy on April 16, 2012, 02:01:13 AM
They really are pushing hard for our country to be run by a dictator of their choosing aren't they?
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: vlad335 on April 16, 2012, 02:05:55 AM
Yup.  Actually they are communists in the Stalinist mold: they want a big daddy to have all the power to control business, industry, education, health care and anything else that should be kept private.  Of course, what the DUmmies don't remember is that the big totalitarian daddy can then kill millions and millions of people and dump political prisoners in gulags.

You give up responsibility, you become sheep to the slaughter, DUmmies.

Yes very true.

Reading the DUmmie's post I am taken back in my memories of long ago political discussions. Myself and a group of friends would gather together and offer solutions to all societies problems. I remember we came up with the exact same solution to gas prices as DUmmie Klook. This was the 1970's and my friends and I were IN THE 7TH GRADE!

I think most on the left are more child-like than rabid communist. They can't see the big picture and become useful idiots.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 16, 2012, 04:28:54 AM
They really are pushing hard for our country to be run by a dictator of their choosing aren't they?

Yup, and as they get closer to having that dream dashed for a generation, they'll get louder and louder, and push harder and harder.  It's going to be an interesting next few months. :fuelfire:
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: diesel driver on April 16, 2012, 05:29:40 AM
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klook
 
I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to set gasoline prices

I mean, since the Republicans keep saying Obama is responsible for high gas prices, why don't we codify it and make him actually responsible for gas prices? The law would be very simple:
"Gasoline prices in the United States will be set at the sole discretion of the President, with no oversight from anybody."

So then the President could actually guarantee that gasoline would cost $2.50 a gallon, or 3 cents a gallon, or 15 dollars a gallon -- whatever he feels like. Simple.

The discussions of such a proposal in Congress and the media could be most enlightening. We might even see some reporting about the real reasons for high gasoline prices.

I know, I know -- but I can dream, can't I?

We've already had this rodeo before.  Back in the late 70's, under James Earl Carter's presidency, and all we got from it was the Department of (No)Energy.

Zero is looking more and more like Carter II every day, including the fiery, smoking, crash and burn that's coming in November!

http://electstevedawes.com
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: miskie on April 16, 2012, 05:43:16 AM
We've already had this rodeo before.  Back in the late 70's, under James Earl Carter's presidency, and all we got from it was the Department of (No)Energy.

Zero is looking more and more like Carter II every day, including the fiery, smoking, crash and burn that's coming in November!

http://electstevedawes.com

The only way this 'works' (in quotes because it really won't in the end) is through complete government takeover of oil production in the USA. The prices won't be lower in the end, but they will be set by the White House.

Its an absolutely stupid idea, which means libs will love it. - until conservatives are in charge and they raise prices or redirect profits to pay for things liberals dislike.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on April 16, 2012, 06:56:33 AM
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I mean, since the Republicans keep saying Obama is responsible for high gas prices, why don't we codify it and make him actually responsible for gas prices?
So, what you're saying is that Obama is not responsible for the price of gas? This means that Bush was also not responsible for the price of gas. If Obama has nothing to do with it, then neither did Bush. If Bush was responsible, then so is Obama. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try.

However, Obama has affected the price of gas (just a few):

1. Drilling moratorium that had been deemed illegal, yet was ignored anyway.
2. The killing of the Keystone pipeline deal
3. Going after coal manufacturers, who he said he wanted to drive out of business during the campaign.

Bush has as well:

1. Bush lifts offshore drilling moratorium in 2007. The gas prices went from 4, 5, 6 dollars a gallon to < $2.00 in a matter of weeks, and remained that was until Obama took office.

So yeah, Obama is responsible for these high prices because he has stifled the free market. And price controls is a disaster waiting to happen. It has never worked, and it never will work.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Airwolf on April 16, 2012, 07:15:34 AM
No blood for oil but they want to give the power to set prices to the President. When the oil companies start to lose money how much of a bail out are we going to pay for then?
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Rebel on April 16, 2012, 07:17:41 AM
Just one problem, DUmbasses. I don't think these countries give a shit about what your idiot president thinks gas should be:



(http://www.servias.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/image.png)


Notice there are only a couple that are American-based?  :whatever:
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Rebel on April 16, 2012, 07:18:54 AM
They really are pushing hard for our country to be run by a dictator of their choosing aren't they?

Always easy to set up a dictatorship among leftists. They're a would-be authoritarian's wet dream.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Splashdown on April 16, 2012, 07:44:23 AM
Not surprising. Back in 2006, dems all thought that the president had lots to do with gas prices.

(http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/MelvinUdall_album/71424739.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Karin on April 16, 2012, 08:09:05 AM
$3.19!  I'm feeling so nostalgic...

If you row over, the only thing of note is how sarcasm-impaired the DUmp is.  They go round and round if a sarcasm hint is dropped, but not taken. 
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Rebel on April 16, 2012, 08:23:52 AM
Not surprising. Back in 2006, dems all thought that the president had lots to do with gas prices.

(http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/MelvinUdall_album/71424739.jpg)


This needs to be hammered into every voter out there.

Let's see what kind of brainless lunatic libs I can snag with it:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=565905
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 16, 2012, 08:43:01 AM
The DUmmie's idea would certainly produce some very campaign-worthy pictures of long lines at the gas pump, waiting to receive their authorized 10 gallons at the State-approved price.

 :-)

Another DUmmie who managed to avoid taking Econ 101.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Splashdown on April 16, 2012, 08:59:40 AM

This needs to be hammered into every voter out there.

Let's see what kind of brainless lunatic libs I can snag with it:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=565905

$3.19 gas would cause a riot right now. How far we've fallen.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 16, 2012, 10:28:28 AM

This needs to be hammered into every voter out there.

Let's see what kind of brainless lunatic libs I can snag with it:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=565905

So, Reg. democrats are $3.19/9, mid grade $3.24/9 and high test liberals are $3.31/9.....always have said that democrats can be bought cheaply.

I assume they're all full of alcohol and shit.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: obumazombie on April 16, 2012, 10:34:20 AM

This needs to be hammered into every voter out there.

Let's see what kind of brainless lunatic libs I can snag with it:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=565905
You got Max Power snagged pretty good with it.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Zeus on April 16, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
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President Nixon Imposes Wage and price controls (http://www.econreview.com/events/wageprice1971b.htm)

August 15, 1971.  In a move widely applauded by the public and a fair number of (but by no means all) economists, President Nixon imposed wage and price controls.  The 90 day freeze was unprecedented in peacetime, but such drastic measures were thought necessary.  Inflation had been raging, exceeding 6% briefly in 1970 and persisting above 4% in 1971.  By the prevailing historical standards, such inflation rates were thought to be completely intolerable.

The 90 day freeze turned into nearly 1,000 days of measures known as Phases One, Two, Three, and Four.  The initial attempt to dampen inflation by calming inflationary expectations was a monumental failure.

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While there were skeptics in August, 1971, there were a great many who thought "temporary" wage and price controls could cure inflation.  By 1974, this notion was thoroughly discredited, and attention gradually turned toward a monetary approach to inflation.  In a complete reversal, the policy to curb inflation in now thought to be an increase in interest rates rather than an attempt to hold them down.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 16, 2012, 10:59:02 AM
When Romney gets elected the liberal douchebags will be standing at the gas stations again, saying that it is his fault.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: obumazombie on April 16, 2012, 11:01:45 AM

I hate myself for saying I told you so...
Price controls. (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,71805.0/msg,848224.html)
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: jukin on April 16, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
Always easy to set up a dictatorship among leftists. They're a would-be authoritarian's wet dream.

Lenin's "Useful Idiots." These stupid people will always be around, the internet just makes them think they are in the majority.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 16, 2012, 01:03:12 PM
Lenin's "Useful Idiots." These stupid people will always be around, the internet just makes them think they are in the majority.

There's no tool like a willing tool.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 16, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002568314

No matter how hard you try to spin it, 0bama gets the blame for gas prices, it is his energy department that is trying their best to kill the oil industry.

Your ****in' messiah totally ****ed us when he put his phony moratorium on drilling in the Gulf, DUmb****!

Any idea how many oil rigs just pulled up stakes and moved to Brazil, asswipe? They were losin' a mil a day and your savior knew they would have to leave! He owns the gas prices, big time!

BTW, they went down to a Soros controlled oil company, just in case ya didn't know, ya ignorant putz!

Gotta grease the palms of those big donors doncha know! This president is the most corrupt POS in my lifetime, and I been thru a few! Nixon didn't have anything on this criminal!

If a Repub had failed so miserably with Fast and Furious, the press and congress would be callin' for impeachment hearings 24/7!

If an attorney general neglected to pay his taxes, he'd have been shit canned the same week the American people were made aware! If he squashed a voter intimidation lawsuit, or attacked a state for tryin' to enforce federal law, you DUmb****s would be screamin' to high heaven!

If a Repub appointed umpteen "Czars" to rule with an iron fist over the American People, y'all would be marchin' in the streets! Leavin' all your stinkin' trash, burnin' flags, and burnin' our guy in effigy, all along the way!

So shut the **** up, ya whinin' POS!!
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: md11hydmec on April 16, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
These idiots would gladly go under a dictatorship if it meant they didn't have to take care of themselves and get thrown table scraps from the idiot in chief.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: jukin on April 16, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
These idiots would gladly go under a dictatorship if it meant they didn't have to take care of themselves and get thrown table scraps from the idiot in chief.

That's the promise. When the big government NSD party comes into true power, everybody works. Everybody works shitty jobs with minimal subsistence pay that barely buys food if you can find it. The DUmmys will be very disappointed if 0bama does indeed grab the power he wants. I can already hear DUches actually working a shovel (unlike CalTrans) building the great infrastructure "Does 0bama know about this?" Only capitalism is successful enough to have a permanent leech and moocher strata of society.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 16, 2012, 05:55:52 PM
That's the promise. When the big government NSD party comes into true power, everybody works. Everybody works shitty jobs with minimal subsistence pay that barely buys food if you can find it. The DUmmys will be very disappointed if 0bama does indeed grab the power he wants. I can already hear DUches actually working a shovel (unlike CalTrans) building the great infrastructure "Does 0bama know about this?" Only capitalism is successful enough to have a permanent leech and moocher strata of society.

And socialism doesn't care about the environment as long as dear leader and the elite get their rice watered with snow/glacier melt water....ala China.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 16, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
How is this new? Haven't DUmmies been calling for the nationalization of our oil companies since their mis-inception?
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 16, 2012, 06:02:41 PM
You know, FDR broke up Standard Oil and old-what's-his-name wound up much richer than he had ever been.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 16, 2012, 06:10:25 PM
You know, FDR broke up Standard Oil and old-what's-his-name wound up much richer than he had ever been.
I did not know that! I'll have to nadin it.
Title: Re: I'm calling for a new federal bill that would give the President the power to
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 16, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
That's the promise. When the big government NSD party comes into true power, everybody works. Everybody works shitty jobs with minimal subsistence pay that barely buys food if you can find it. The DUmmys will be very disappointed if 0bama does indeed grab the power he wants. I can already hear DUches actually working a shovel (unlike CalTrans) building the great infrastructure "Does 0bama know about this?" Only capitalism is successful enough to have a permanent leech and moocher strata of society.

If the DUmmies and O'Bummer try that shit, they will have the second civil war! I dare them to think they could ever get away with such a thing!

Remember when they were tellin' us "W" was goin' to proclaim Martial law?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH these people really piss me off!