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Eugene V. Debs, Man of Irrelevancy.

Cesar Chavez, Cesar Chavez ... good at inspiring but poor at administering, poor judge of character and nepotistic. Huge Lib cult hero, but feet of clay and the UFW was largely irrelevant in California agriculture by the end of the 1980s.

Ironically, Chavez inadvertently helped create the context for our current invasion of illegals. Back in the 1940s, FDR created the Bracero Program to reduce illegal immigration. The program allowed a certain number of Mexican workers to enter the US at the start of harvesting season, follow the seasonal ripening picking fruit or vegetable, and then at the end going back to their families in Mexico at the end of the season with their wages. Chavez hated the program because he couldn't unionize the Braceros. So, working with other unions and the Dems, the program got killed. I won't speculate how Chavez would vote, but he certainly would not like illegal immigration.

TBF (32,127 posts)
24. When socialist Eugene Debs ran for president in 1920 he was imprisoned -
Reply to lonely bird (Reply #21)
Sat May 11, 2024, 01:57 PM
he was a heavy labor supporter who started as a democrat and eventually became a socialist. He got 3.4% of the vote. Just mentioning because there is precedence for being able to run from jail.

For those of us who are more left he is a giant in the history of labor in this country, no matter what one thinks of socialism as a system (his own wife did not agree w/him!). Anyway, notable and on point history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs

(and I must say, Donald Trump is no Eugene Debbs - he is actually the very opposite from my point of view)

Wanna know who else was a giant in the labor industry? Cesar Chavez. Chavez would be voting Trump this year, and there's absolutely no question about it. He was ADAMENTLY opposed to illegal immigration.

mal proved herself a non-prophet long ago. Given mal's track record, DU-folk would be wise to recycle their favorite Hate-President-Trump nicknames and epithets (e.g. "PINO"),   .

L.A. Mayor Karen "Kapo" Bass Needs To Learn Jewish History

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass has decided that she is going to use FBI face identification software to track, arrest, and prosecute the Jewish students who defended themselves at UCLA against the illegal pro-Hamas domestic terrorists. She has even gone so far in the last few days as to compare these Jewish students to “the insurrectionists of January 6”.

Mayor Bass needs to study history, and especially the upcoming Jewish holiday of Yom HaZikaron, whose full name translates to “Memorial Day for the Fallen Soldiers of the Wars of Israel and the Victims of Actions of Terrorism”. If she understood history, she might not be racing to attack and arrest the Jewish students who defended themselves against the violence of the UCLA Hamas encampment.  If she had any concept of integrity, she would not be comparing those Jewish students to the “January 6 insurrection”. If she knew the horrors that ultimately happened to the kapos of Nazi Germany, she might not be so inspired to be on the wrong side of history and defend the illegal encampments on college campuses and the professional agitators who control them.

Much of the direct evil perpetrated during the Holocaust was performed by “kapos”:   prisoners or sycophants who actively did the work of the Nazi regime in order to further their own quests for power.  Ultimately, either during uprisings or after the war; most of these lackeys were themselves castigated by their communities, imprisoned for their crimes, and/or in many cases, killed either as a result of post-war court cases or by the ones they previously had been controlling. 

While originally used in WWII to define prisoners who betrayed their own, the modern connotation of “kapo” has come to mean any person who surrenders their dignity and integrity in pursuit for more personal power from an authoritarian government. It is an understanding that this type of person ultimately is hoisted with their own petard.  As they violated the principles of righteousness in favor of gaining personal power, they ultimately lost both that power and their souls.

Mayor Bass needs to remember that history as she vilifies the Jewish students for standing up against the illegal professional activists at UCLA who prohibited Jewish students from getting to classrooms and libraries or even on to the UCLA campus; physically injured and intimidated Jewish students; and illegally set up tent encampments on campus that included illegal fencing, barricades, and weaponry. In supporting those Jew-haters, Bass has lost the majority of even the most liberal Jewish voters in Los Angeles, as well as their financial contributions. And as we have seen throughout the last few years around the country, those pro-Hamas leftists (most of whom don’t even know the actual history of the region) will undoubtedly turn on Bass in the future if/when she doesn’t succumb to their ever-increasing demands. Evil is insatiable, and these activists will betray her in the same way we see them betray other former allies when they are not permitted to go unchecked.

https://pjmedia.com/rabbi-michael-barclay/2024/05/11/la-mayor-karen-kapo-bass-needs-to-learn-jewish-history-n4928959