Illegals drink a lot of water...illegally.
In addition, they weigh down all of our welfare programs, health care, jails, schools, and countless social programs.
They are net takers on a scale that is hurting our country very badly...
Columnist and author of â€œAdios, Americaâ€ Ann Coulter debated immigration with former MSNBC host Joy Reid and Congressman Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)20%
on Fridayâ€™s broadcast of HBOâ€™s â€œReal Time.â€
The discussion began with Maher and Coulter debating the number of illegal immigrants in the US, and the prior immigration system in the US.
Coulter said that, â€œWe used to have an immigration policy where we would choose the best in the world, and that was changed,â€ Maher rebutted, â€œWell, we would choose the whitest in the world.â€
Coulter continued, â€œLook, the pre-1970 immigrants were more educated, made more money, were more likely to buy houses, and 30% of them went home.
Now, no one goes home, they go on welfare, and they are far more likely to be on welfare than the native population, I think a nationâ€™s policies should be concerned with the people already here, and that includes the immigrants who came last year and the year before.
It should be people who live here benefit, not to become the battered womanâ€™s shelter of the world, where weâ€™re bringing in the hardest cases, and the wife beaters, and single mother with eight kids.â€
Maher responded that he didnâ€™t think those assertions were born out by statistics, because Coulter said there were 30 million illegal immigrants, while government stats say there are 12 million.
Coulter argued that her number from Bear Stearns is more accurate than the Census figure that the 12 million came from because â€œpeople who have trekked thousands of miles, left their families behind, broken laws, stolen Social Security cards, are not going to be filling out government surveys.â€
Maher answered that he still thinks that number is high, given lower birthrates among Mexican women, and â€œIâ€™ve read everywhere that actually the net immigration from Mexico in the last seven years has been zero.â€
The two then agreed to suppose 30 million is correct, Coulter stated, â€œthe point at issue is, should Americaâ€™s immigration policy be used to benefit the people already here, or should it be benefiting Pakistani pushcart operators, illiterate in their own language, never mind ours, who come here, go on welfare, commit terrorism, engage in crimes.
Why wouldnâ€™t you look out across the world, like a sports team does, and try to get the crÃ¨me de la crÃ¨me?â€
Gutierrez was then offered a rebuttal that Coulter was â€œrevving up, you know, itâ€™s a like a Latino registration machine,â€ and warned â€œyouâ€™re never going to take the White House with this kind of politics ever againâ€“.â€
Maher then told Gutierrez â€œthat didnâ€™t exactly answer her question.â€
Reid then responded, â€œWe were earlier talking, and touched on the issue of slavery.
Ever since the forcible removal of millions of African-Americans from chattel slavery, this country has been importing new slave labor because this country wants, and runs, and is fueled by cheap labor,â€ a point Coulter agreed with.
Reid added, that cheap labor was and continues to be drawn from Mexico by â€œpeople who are on your side, big agricultureâ€¦the big corporate interests who want people to come here.â€
Coulter reacted that she is not on the side of big agriculture or large corporations, and Maher pointed out that Coulter agreed with Reidâ€™s point in her book.
Reid continued, â€œOnce we bring people here, peopleâ€™s family members, people whoâ€™s families are born here are American.
Both my parents are immigrants.
So, I take great exception to any kind of negative characterization of them, I had one come from Africa, one came from the Caribbean, when they came here, they came for the same reason that everyone does, for opportunity, for education.
And when theyâ€™re contributing to our society, and they have a child here, like me, Iâ€™m a first-generation American and Iâ€™m fully American, despite the fact that both my parents were born outside of [the United States].â€
Coulter then responded, â€œthat also doesnâ€™t answer my point though it buttresses one of the main points I am making.
Yeah, this is cheap labor.â€
Maher then asked why the bookâ€™s title isnâ€™t more critical of Republicans.
Coulter responded that the book itself is â€œfar more of an attack on Republicans, on big business, on the Chamber of Commerce, than it is on the left.â€ Maher agreed that this is true.
Coulter again re-iterated that the USâ€™ immigration policy should focus on its citizens, not other countriesâ€™.
Gutierrez argued, â€œall the fruit you eat, all the vegetables you eat, they are all picked by foreign labor.â€
Coulter jumped in, â€œthey can be picked by machines. â€¦ These are all people who are going to be on welfare soon.â€
After a long period of crosstalk, Maher finally took over the discussion.
He asked Coulter what Geraldo Rivera thought of the book, she said that he liked the book because of her praise of Puerto Ricans for making the US â€œmore vibrant.â€
She continued, â€œIn other words, we didnâ€™t need 30 million Mexicans, we already had African-Americans, and I mean African-Americans, not immigrants. And we already have the Puerto Ricans.â€
And â€œIâ€™m just stating, we didnâ€™t need the 1965 Act for all this vibrancy weâ€™re getting because weâ€™re getting a lot of crime and welfare use.â€
The discussion concluded with Maher asking Coulter how she could justify her immigration position in light of her Christianity, to which Coulter answered, â€œyou donâ€™t have to take homeless people to sleep in your bed to prove youâ€™re a Christian.
This is our home.â€
Maher disagreed, saying that he thinks Jesus Christ would like people letting the homeless sleep in their beds.