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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2014, 07:54:43 PM »
That MD 20/20 won't stay full for long.

Is that MD 20/20 or some other concoction that drug users drink? I've never seen orange MD 20/20.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2014, 08:01:02 PM »
Is that MD 20/20 or some other concoction that drug users drink? I've never seen orange MD 20/20.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2014, 09:52:56 PM »
Is that MD 20/20 or some other concoction that drug users drink? I've never seen orange MD 20/20.

I must live on the wrong side of the tracks or something, as I'd not heard of MD 20/20. Form the pic on main page of their website, it looks like the bottle in that "memorials" pic could be one of two flavors. When the "memorials" of a person include multiple bottles of cheap liquors/wines/etc. (screw-on metal caps!), it doesn't say much that is good about the character of the person being memorialized.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2014, 10:51:20 PM »
Looting rages on in Ferguson. It happened last night despite heavy rain falling.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2014, 10:59:35 PM »
CBSNews.com Live Video
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2014, 11:28:43 PM »
The rioting/protesting will stop when there are no stores left to loot or they are protected by armed men and women.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2014, 11:46:39 PM »
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There are perhaps 125 people at this pro-Darren Wilson protest. 124 white people and Martin Baker, aged 44 pic.twitter.com/6DaAHPlQtT


He is a target of a lot of attacks.

Martin ran for Congress earlier this year.
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Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times
« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2014, 11:52:21 PM »
Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html

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FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

Michael Brown was shot 6 times and bullets came from the front.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2014, 11:58:39 PM »
Well, that's one more of their theories shot to shit.

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FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2014, 12:27:49 AM »
Holder and the Department of Injustice have yet to do their autopsy.  They'll find bullets in his back and likely evidence of a double tap to the back of his head.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2014, 03:23:26 AM »
Governor Nixon called in the National Guard.

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This is why Eric Holder wants another autopsy done--so that the Feds can refute those claims.  The problem is, Dr. Baden is recognized as the expert in these things, all over the world.
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So he was not running away, or attempting to surrender, as his buddy said. Question: is the shot on the top of the head explained if he was running at the police officer?

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This is why Eric Holder wants another autopsy done--so that the Feds can refute those claims.  The problem is, Dr. Baden is recognized as the expert in these things, all over the world.

How very wise of the Brown family to call in DR. Baden in this case.

 I do not care if the victim was Black, White, Asian or Latino,  I don't care if the Officer was from some native tribe in Alaska,  this is not about race----- this is about Truth, reconstruction of the incident, science and to understand that no two eyewitnesses saw and heard the same thing. 

Sort of like the Movie 'Natural born killers"------Saw this movie with family [Adult] and as we all saw the same thing, heard the same words spoken, we ended up arguing for days about what we had seen and heard.  A satire on the press and the weekly  papers saying Jesus was found in a grilled cheese sandwich.       

As Joe Friday said " Only the facts, just give me the facts"

It will not be easy for the Feds to refute anything Baden finds as they will need to find someone with a better track record then Baden's to contradict his findings.

To CMYPAY--------- I would believe that after being shot 5 times, this man was in no condition to charge bare handed the man who had shot him.  The head shot to the top of his head was we must assume to be the fatal one and may have been received as he, the victim was going down to the ground.

We will have to wait for a year or so to get this sorted out, the wheels of Justice grind slowly.




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More from the NYT article:

Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times
By FRANCES ROBLES and JULIE BOSMAN
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Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.
Some key facts from this NYT article:

* This Medical Examiner is not local, but flew in from NYC and did the autopsy at the Brown family's request;

* Brown was struck by 6 bullets, 4 in the arm, 2 in the head, none from behind;

* There have been reports (based on chatter by an eyewitness chatting in the background of a news video) of Brown attempting to flee, stopping when so instructed by the officer, then trying to bumrush the officer by surprise, and then being shot; the 6 bullet strikes are potentially consistent with Brown having tried to rush the police officer ----> 4 to the arm when Brown was moving and difficult to hit, 1 to the face, causing him to fall, and the last, to the top of his head, when Brown was falling (my speculation, except regarding the hit to the top of the head having been the last bullet);

* While the NYC ME could not comment on powder burns or residue on Brown's clothing, this is not relevant to the two hits to Brown's head; powder burns/residue from those shots, if any, would have been on Brown's face and the top of his head; there were none, therefore those 2 hits, including the one that was fatal, were not at close range.

The claim that Brown was shot in the back is disproved. The claim that Brown was shot while having his arms raised is proven highly doubtful (police only aim at arms and hands in movies and TV shows). The claim that Brown was shot at close range while lying on the pavement is disproven.

So once again, the MSM have been deceived by race-hucksters and victimologists, and by their own bias and haste. I was very prepared, despite the huckster-like actions of Brown's family and rioting, to believe that this shooting was unjustified, and possibly even murder. With this autopsy, by the Brown family's chosen ME, all the spectacular claims of the family, the Jackson-Sharpton types, and their MSM poll parrots have almost completely unraveled. At this point, IMO, it would take a hostile, highly biased, jury to convict this officer of anything.
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Brown was a nice, peaceful Muslim. Officer shot him in the top of his head when Brown got down for one of his 5 daily prayers[DU/liberalMSM/mode]
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2014, 09:19:53 AM »
Well, this will teach all those business people not to invest in this town!

Five years from now the race-baiter industry will be whining at how racist it is that businesses have abandoned and not opened stores in Ferguson.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #93 on: August 18, 2014, 10:02:35 AM »
Well, this will teach all those business people not to invest in this town!

Five years from now the race-baiter industry will be whining at how racist it is that businesses have abandoned and not opened stores in Ferguson.
Yeah, a innocent kid has to walk 5 miles to shoplift SKITTLES to make Arizona tea.
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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #94 on: August 18, 2014, 11:42:01 AM »
Why is everyone freaking out about the six shots?  It sounds like the cop tried to take him down by non-lethal means, but St. Michael kept charging. 

Also, doesn't the media remember the Georgia mom who shot the home intruder five times in the face, which failed to take him down?

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #95 on: August 18, 2014, 12:08:03 PM »
Why is everyone freaking out about the six shots?  It sounds like the cop tried to take him down by non-lethal means, but St. Michael kept charging. 

Also, doesn't the media remember the Georgia mom who shot the home intruder five times in the face, which failed to take him down?

The two examiners think that two of the wounds are re-entry wounds, which would make four shots hitting Brown.

I think this whole thing is a tragedy for both Brown and the cop. 

Seven people were killed, and 29 wounded in Chicago this weekend.

Where is their outrage?

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2014, 12:35:27 PM »
The two examiners think that two of the wounds are re-entry wounds, which would make four shots hitting Brown.

I think this whole thing is a tragedy for both Brown and the cop. 

Seven people were killed, and 29 wounded in Chicago this weekend.

Where is their outrage?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/seven-killed-29-injured-in-chicago-weekend-shootings/

Not to jump to conclusions, but if Brown charged the officer, I have absolutely no sorrow over his death.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2014, 01:17:40 PM »
Why is everyone freaking out about the six shots?  It sounds like the cop tried to take him down by non-lethal means, but St. Michael kept charging. 

Also, doesn't the media remember the Georgia mom who shot the home intruder five times in the face, which failed to take him down?

I'm just amazed the cop managed to hit his target 6 times.

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Re: Clean up, calm Monday morning after violent night in Ferguson
« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2014, 01:52:44 PM »
I'm just amazed the cop managed to hit his target 6 times.

He was big as a building so yeh.........they all should have been center mass!






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