0bama's racist war for oil to drag on through 2016

[BannedFromDU]

morningfog (7,596 posts)

Obama to Keep 9,800 Troops in Afghanistan through 2016

President Barack Obama will seek to keep 9,800 U.S. troops in Afghanistan after the war formally ends later this year and then withdraw most of those forces by 2016, senior U.S. administration officials said Tuesday.

Obama's decision is largely in line with what military commanders have been seeking and would allow the president to fully end the American-led military effort by the time he leaves office.

The two-year plan is contingent on the Afghan government signing a bilateral security agreement with the U.S. While outgoing Afghan President Hamid Karzai has declined to sign the agreement, U.S. officials are confident that either of the candidates seeking to replace him would give his approval.

The plan calls for the U.S. military to draw down from its current force of 32,000 to 9,800 by the start of next year. Those remaining troops would be throughout Afghanistan.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/apnewsbreak-us-9800-troops-afghanistan-23881987

The longest war in history will keep ticking along. It will be up to the next president to get all of our troops out of Afghanistan. Who would have thought that "drawing down" and "ending the war" in Afghanistan would mean that about 10,000 would still be there in 2015 and some unknown number through the end of Obama's entire presidency?

Which means, for you DUmmies who can't count (which is pretty much all of you) that your Nobel Peace Prize-winning messiah will preside over an illegal, racist war for oil for longer than Bushitler McCokespoon.


Then there are US deaths in Afghanistan:

Year

Total

2001   12   12
2002   49   61
2003   48   109
2004   52   161
2005   99    260
2006   98   358
2007   117   475
2008   155   630
2009   317   317
2010   499   816
2011   418   1234
2012   310   1544
2013   127   1671
2014   21   1691



Which shows amply that the incompetence of the 0dipshit "Admin" in prosecuting the racist war for oil: by the end of his bumbling junta, your Messiah will have probably murdered more than 3x the soldiers who died under the Bush Administration.

So, when do you assholes start calling for the frogmarch to the Hague?

[Gina]

I hope someone brings those numbers over to the DUmp, Banned

[DumbAss Tanker]

9,800 is enough for a small reaction force, a moderate number of trainers, liaison, civil affairs, intel, special operators, and logistic support including airfield ops people.  Spread around a place the size of Afghanistan, it's about the size of the force you'd leave if the situation was pretty stable and you just wanted to keep a lid on the scattered die-hard hold-outs in the mountains. 

Unfortunately, the situation is not stabilized, and there are a whole lot of heavily-armed, ruthless, fanatical SOBs in the mountains, not just some isolated hold-outs. 

[thundley4]

9,800 is enough for a small reaction force, a moderate number of trainers, liaison, civil affairs, intel, special operators, and logistic support including airfield ops people.  Spread around a place the size of Afghanistan, it's about the size of the force you'd leave if the situation was pretty stable and you just wanted to keep a lid on the scattered die-hard hold-outs in the mountains. 

Unfortunately, the situation is not stabilized, and there are a whole lot of heavily-armed, ruthless, fanatical SOBs in the mountains, not just some isolated hold-outs.

Given the ROE that our military operates under, those guys will be sitting ducks.

[dutch508]

frazzled (11,476 posts)
4. There will be no combat forces there by the end of the year

and thus no combat, no matter whether an agreement is signed or not, and whether the 9K training and advisory troops remain. It doesn't mean there won't be deaths, but it won't be a war. The war will be over.

Only a ****ing idiot DUmp monkie leftist POS would think that if only one side declares peace it is so. Yeah... the 'war' will be over. It will just be work-place related violence that kills our people.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Given the ROE that our military operates under, those guys will be sitting ducks.

Yep.  IMHO it's actually going to be a lot more dangerous to be there as the commitment thins out than it has been, on a casualty rate basis.