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Don't know what to make of this
« on: March 21, 2014, 11:02:22 PM »
This OP doesn't seem to fit in for some reason.
I'm having a hard time figuring it out.
Strikes me as odd.
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I Just Lost My Mind Listening to the Cluelessness of the First Lady in China
  
 
 

  
Everyone, please understand I live in China. I work in China. I am married in China. This is where my life is. I am working to sell my screenplays in China to places like Huayi Brothers with my new agency, CAA in Beijing. I'm getting my PhD in Chinese history. I teach Geography and History at the AP, IGCSE and A-level. . .and I speak rather good Mandarin. So, I can say I know what I'm talking about.

So, my wife flips on her iPhone and plays a new broadcast of Michelle giving an interview. In it, she says "I look forward to seeing all the new education initiatives here in China that we could try to use in the United States. I look forward to seeing the schools." And I exploded! This woman is God damned clueless.

Let's begin: Snipped for brevity. It's quite long
If any have the time, please read.  I'm pooped and past my bedtime.
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 11:14:35 PM »
Nads made a couple of appearances later on in that thread.  I won't bore anyone with the context, because let's face it, it's not going to make either of these posts any more intelligible:

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5. I think you just described my country of origin

Where there is a revolt since they are trying hard to change that reality.

Do teachers get their jobs due to who they know and "buy" the position as well?

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14. Not limited to China

Replace party for the union (in this case it is not a good thing). And you just described the Mexican educational system. Where or when they went bad is a good question. But it is the last thrifty years.

The down side, is the damn test once again. The reforms involve the damn teaching to test.

But you have teachers fighting technology and a second language, never mind both are in the federal curriculum.

I wonder if development status has a tad to do with it? As well as some level of distrust?

And thanks for the answer. It would make for a fascinating comparative study in educational policy.

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 11:17:43 PM »
Nads made a couple of appearances later on in that thread.  I won't bore anyone with the context, because let's face it, it's not going to make either of these posts any more intelligible:

Just saw those and was going to drag them over.
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 11:25:43 PM »
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All in all, she will get nothing but bullcrap and it will be passed off as reality.

 
Basically it said that Michelle will be shown an elitist school, and not the horrors of what real Chinese education is.

The schools are disgusting, 60 kids in a classroom and they don't do anything.  All they have to do is take tests, but they are given the answers and they don't actually learn anything.





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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 11:29:17 PM »

Basically it said that Michelle will be shown an elitist school, and not the horrors of what real Chinese education is.

The schools are disgusting, 60 kids in a classroom and they don't do anything.  All they have to do is take tests, but they are given the answers and they don't actually learn anything.


I had a friend who taught in China for a few years.  He said they were excellent at mimicking, but not actually thinking for themselves. 

I'm sure there is a parable for the primitives tucked in there somewhere. 

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 11:35:11 PM »

Basically it said that Michelle will be shown an elitist school, and not the horrors of what real Chinese education is.

The schools are disgusting, 60 kids in a classroom and they don't do anything.  All they have to do is take tests, but they are given the answers and they don't actually learn anything.
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 05:10:20 AM »
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14. .....But it is the last thrifty years.
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 06:22:33 AM »
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44. I invite DUers to put this through Google Translate

It says ""Tell that son of a bitch to die and he does not know you."

I can't quite comprehend that a DU Jury would allow such vile threats to remain, but let it be known that the OP posts such things. You should have seen the post he self-removed.


You can say what you want about the American education system, but don't you dare even think about trashing their beloved communist China.   

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And thanks for the answer. It would make for a fascinating comparative study in educational policy.
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Nads, award winning policial reporter, there are only hundreds, if not thousands, of those already done.   Get to the google.     

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 06:23:25 AM »
Exactly coach, how many years is thrifty??
We are still waiting for 24 business hours to pass.  I'm afraid that thrifty is a number that can only be realized in theoretical mathematics or by batshit crazy bald dwarfs.
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 06:27:09 AM »
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40. What the hell does Race to the Bottom

have to do with Michelle's diplomatic mission to China? What part of "it's diplomacy" aren't you getting here?

If you're going to write a dissertation and defend it you might want to practice staying focused on the subject at hand. You're going to have to defend that dissertation in front of academics MUCH tougher than me. Is that how you plan on reacting under incredibly tough questioning? Irrational? Lashing out?
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 06:31:06 AM »
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73. I wonder how it would go over in America if the French First Lady attackted American education

and suggested that American students were ignorant and lazy while visiting America on a goodwill tour

Uh, she would be the commencement speaker at Columbia, Harvard, et al; would be worshipped in hourly threads on the island; and the media would be falling all over each other as their legs would be tingling so much with excitement.



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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 06:44:47 AM »
Paraphrasing My feelings are hurt because everyone didn't agree with me so I'm going to sulk
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 I can't stand what the website I loved for 12 years has become.

It has been taken over by the type of progressive that has always made my skin crawl.
 
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8. Being insulted by someone who doesn't know a thing about living in China then being told I'm a lousy teacher
Dummies lie even when they sulk and pout
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 07:22:14 AM »
Wasn't it just recently were a Chinese student got up from his desk and jumped out of the window?
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2014, 07:29:24 AM »
how many years is thrifty??
Is it possible she is nadinspeaking about 'thrifty' years as opposed to years one spends being a wastrel? 

I've noticed that from time to time her second thought/sentence has little, if anything, to do with the previous one.
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2014, 09:10:46 AM »
Exactly coach, how many years is thrifty??

I saw that last night when I rowed the comment over.  I couldn't come up with a good answer, and figured I would wait until the morning. 

I've just woke up, so right now I'm excellent at potato math.  Here is what I have: 

1/2 of three + 1/2 of fifty = thrifty

1.5+25= 26.5 years 




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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2014, 09:26:35 AM »
I saw that last night when I rowed the comment over.  I couldn't come up with a good answer, and figured I would wait until the morning. 

I've just woke up, so right now I'm excellent at potato math.  Here is what I have: 

1/2 of three + 1/2 of fifty = thrifty

1.5+25= 26.5 years 


So it may be less time than 24 business hours.
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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 09:30:10 AM »
So it may be less time than 24 business hours.

The great thing about potato math is the only wrong answer is the right answer!  If, for example, I say I forgot to carry the decimal point, I can come up with a totally different answer and get you a number that is suitable for your request:

   25
+1.5
=4.0 


And there you have it, four is less than 24!  Don't forget to carry the decimal point!

   

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Re: Don't know what to make of this
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2014, 10:34:09 AM »
1/2 of three + 1/2 of fifty = thrifty

1.5+25= 26.5 years

No, it's actually....

3/5 of three + 4/5 of fifty = thrifty

1.8 + 40 = 41.8 years

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