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DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« on: February 28, 2014, 03:29:11 PM »
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Ukraine crisis: Crimea airports occupied



It's not the Russians! It can't be the Russians!

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2. There was a story about some people hoisting the Russian flag in the area. Don't think it's an

invasion nor an occupation. The report is rather sparse. Hope they all settle down. An invasion would be crazy.


In 1979 Afghanistan Airports were occupied by Soviet forces...

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5. This is nothing as of yet to confirm exactly who they are.

I'd be surprised if it is fact Russian military.

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7. Unmarked uniforms. Approached in trucks/busses without licenses.

Didn't interfere with airport operations.

Pictures I've seen show them without magazines in their rifles.

They aren't talking to anybody.

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6. Reuters is sticking with "armed men" : not "Russian military"

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18. Is it possible that:

We called Putin's "bluff"...

Putin repied "I'm not bluffing" and put in his troops...

We then said "whoa, we really didn't mean to go there. How about you withdraw your troops and we'll pretend it never
happened."

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22. Given that Ukraine's interior minister had said quite clearly

"Russian military forces are blockading Sevastopol airport in the Ukrainian region of Crimea", he might now find he's got a credibility problem for making alarmist stuff up.

Thanks for the link - I was out and using the mobile on which I don't know how to link.

 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/28/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSBREA1Q1E820140228

47 minutes ago rueters says Russian Naval Troops in Crimea...

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Ukraine's top security official, Andriy Paruby, said the armed men in Crimea were taking their orders from the top in Russia. "These are separate groups ... commanded by the Kremlin," Paruby, secretary of the National Security and Defence Council, told a televised briefing in Kiev.

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Near the military airport, half a dozen men in camouflage uniforms with automatic rifles were blocking the road using a truck with no license plates. Reporters were kept from approaching them by volunteer militia, who formed a second road block about 150 meters away.

"Of course they are Russian," said Maxim Lovinetsky, 23, one of the volunteers. "They came last night."




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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 03:46:52 PM »
DUmmies are so retarded.

Most likely Spetznatz, or Spetznatz-led 'Russian minority militias,' who will plead for Russian intervention to protect the interests of the ethnic Russian minority.  Basically the Sudetenland all over again, except with Spetznatz instead of Brandenburgers.

The idea that the Russians aren't calling the plays on this is laughable.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 03:49:37 PM »
Until Nads (heavily) weighs in I am not believing anything.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 04:02:52 PM »
Until Nads (heavily) weighs in I am not believing anything.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 04:18:15 PM »
There's little doubt the Russians will eventually move in and take control.

And what is this statement?

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18. Is it possible that:

We called Putin's "bluff"...

Putin repied "I'm not bluffing" and put in his troops...

We then said "whoa, we really didn't mean to go there. How about you withdraw your troops and we'll pretend it never happened."

Why should Putin be scared of your Dear Leader? Obama's a joke; he isn't going to do anything, and the world knows it. Liberals are wimps. Putin couldn't ask for a better opposition leader (using the term "leader" which much salt when refering to your Dear Leader).

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 04:24:50 PM »
Obama needs to shut his pie hole and sit down.  He's not going to do anything and the entire world knows it, so he might as well stay quiet.

Maybe if there were some Muslims in Ukraine.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 04:30:24 PM »
Putin is going to give Obama an even bigger crotch punch than Syria.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 04:40:34 PM »
Last time they were between Stalin and Hitler.....this time they're between Putin and a .......well, nobody. They are his for the taking.

I remember 1956 and 1964(?) and the other times Russian troops went into the satellite countries of eastern Europe when they wanted separation from Russian dominance.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 04:45:18 PM »
I remember ... 1964(?)

You may be thinking 1968 when the Soviets went into Czechoslovakia.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 04:55:43 PM »
You may be thinking 1968 when the Soviets went into Czechoslovakia.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 05:08:13 PM »
DUmmies are so retarded.

Most likely Spetznatz, or Spetznatz-led 'Russian minority militias,' who will plead for Russian intervention to protect the interests of the ethnic Russian minority.  Basically the Sudetenland all over again, except with Spetznatz instead of Brandenburgers.

The idea that the Russians aren't calling the plays on this is laughable.

Good call.  Spetznatz is being reported as involved.

As usual, these idiots are 100% wrong.


Obama needs to shut his pie hole and sit down.  He's not going to do anything and the entire world knows it, so he might as well stay quiet.

Maybe if there were some Muslims in Ukraine.

Yeah, Odouchenozzle is out fundraising, or something.  Something about "happy hour" with the Democrats.

Until Nads (heavily) weighs in I am not believing anything.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 05:15:33 PM »
No rational person wants to start WW3 over this.

Which is why I'm not entirely convinced Obama won't stumble into it.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 05:20:16 PM »

It's not the Russians! It can't be the Russians!
 



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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 05:24:47 PM »
No rational person wants to start WW3 over this.

Which is why I'm not entirely convinced Obama won't stumble into it.

Unfortunately, you may be correct.  What's the time-honored way of getting your country out of economic doldrums?  Start a war. 
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2014, 05:32:08 PM »
Until Nads (heavily) weighs in I am not believing anything.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2014, 05:39:43 PM »
Obama needs to shut his pie hole and sit down.  He's not going to do anything and the entire world knows it, so he might as well stay quiet.

Maybe if there were some Muslims in Ukraine.

There are... The Tatars. In Crimea...
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2014, 05:58:55 PM »
Here's a link to someone who was right about this . . . From CNN, no less.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/28/palin-on-ukraine-i-told-you-so/
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2014, 06:00:16 PM »
Unfortunately, you may be correct.  What's the time-honored way of getting your country out of economic doldrums?  Start a war. 

Obama isn't going to start a war outside of the U.S.  His real enemies are those that vote R.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2014, 07:03:52 PM »
Remember when Romney called Russia our biggest geopolitical threat and Joe Biden was cackling and giggling and mocking him?

Deal with it Dummies.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2014, 07:45:23 PM »
The primitives are having to walk a tight line. On the one hand, they want Dear Leader to appear tough and in control. On the other, they know he won't do anything which, of course, makes him look weak (which he is). So they have to say he needs to talk tough but stay out of it. It's the only safe position they can take.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Dear Leader is getting rolled by Putin.......... again.

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2014, 07:50:20 PM »
There are... The Tatars. In Crimea...
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2014, 10:13:36 PM »
 Russian heavy sp artillery seen moving into Crimea...

Barry's little talk gots em scared...
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2014, 12:23:11 AM »
I think Obama is planning to unleash the IRS, EPA, and the Justice Department on Russia. After all it works so well against Americans. If that doesnt work he can use Obamacare against them. That should take down Russian military morale.
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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2014, 03:24:15 AM »
Good Lord, the left spends the majority of their lives in denial, on purpose! Of course, when they're wrong the go-to response is to blame someone else, usually a conservative that had nothing to do with the whole thing. 0bama isn't a threat to anyone, he doesn't ever backed up any of his "threats" and whatever "bluff" they think Putin is pulling, if the boy king tried to call him on it, he'd be laughing all the way to the heart of Ukraine. Just watch the world calm down if we get a true conservative in the WH!

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Re: DUmp to be wrong on Ukraine/Crimea
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2014, 03:39:38 AM »
Putin's no girly man like 0.  He is such an embarrassment.
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