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Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« on: June 30, 2008, 03:22:02 PM »
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Lone_Star_Dem  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:33 PM
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Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn) 
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Source: Associated Press

HOUSTON — A grand jury declined to indict a suburban Houston homeowner for shooting to death two men he believed were burglarizing his neighbor's house.

Joe Horn, 61, shot the two men in the back last November after he saw them leaving a neighbor's house in Pasadena, a Houston suburb.

Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun after a 911 dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside his house.

On a 911 tape of the call, Horn can be heard threatening the two men, who were both shot in the back.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5864152.html
 

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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 02:37 PM
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1. Kind of hard to plead self-defense when you're shooting a guy in the back.
 But hey, it's Texas, where they have the death penalty for trespassing. /sarcasm


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Tyler Durden  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:40 PM
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4. A guy shot a Repo Man...
 In the back, with a scoped, high powered rifle he kept loaded by the front door. He shot the guy from about two yards widths away, claiming he thought the guy was stealing his truck.

Not only did he no bill the Grand Jury, but his CHURCH took up a collection to pay his legal bills, ANY pay off his truck.

I lived in Houston at the time. I used to walk in the neighborhood at night, a practice I discontinued. 


Good thing he had a scope or he might have missed.  :whatever:


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sui generis  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 03:41 PM
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11. hey, it's America where four out of five SCOTUS opinions were
 FOR the death penalty for trespassing.

hayseeds and slack jawed yokels aren't just for breakfast anymore.
 


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lizzy (1000+ posts)     Mon Jun-30-08 03:58 PM
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18. He doesn't have to shoot in self-defense.
 TX law gives him permission to defend property.
 



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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


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Tyler Durden  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:40 PM
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5. That's no fun!!!


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TOJ  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 03:10 PM
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8. In the back?? At his NEIGHBOR'S house?
 Whenever I am having a bad day, I say a prayer of thanks that I don't live in Texas.


I'm glad  you don't live in Texas too.

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raystorm7 (555 posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:47 PM
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15. Be very careful where you live in Houston, A few streets down may mean daily crime or peace & quiet.


Huh ?

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High Plains (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:43 PM
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12. Yee-haw!! It's open season in Texas now. 
 They didn't have enough people shooting each other before. 


No DUmbass, I would only shoot someone who was messing with me or mine.



 




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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 04:09:44 PM »
That is 2 scum bags that NO ONE has to worry about stealing their goods anymore.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.  I hadn't heard that Joe was no billed and this tickles me to no end!  Wooo Hooo!!

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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 04:11:59 PM »
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TOJ  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 03:10 PM
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8. In the back?? At his NEIGHBOR'S house?
 Whenever I am having a bad day, I say a prayer of thanks that I don't live in Texas.

What the hell TOJ ...... you a robber?  If you make your living stealin' from other folks ..... yeah, you don't want to be here. 

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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 04:17:30 PM »
Good!!! I had faith that he would be no billed.

Joe Horn is a good and decent man. Something the primitives know nothing about.
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 04:18:56 PM »

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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


If memory serves they were still there when the police arrived.  :evillaugh:
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 04:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on June 30, 2008, 04:18:56 PM

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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


If memory serves they were still there when the police arrived.  :evillaugh:

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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 04:55:20 PM »
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aikoaiko  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 02:43 PM
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Joe Horn no billed by grand jury

 http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id...

HOUSTON -- A suburban Houston homeowner was cleared by a grand jury Monday for shooting to death two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home.

Joe Horn, 61, shot the two men last November after he saw them crawling out the windows of a neighbor's house in Pasadena, a Houston suburb.

Horn, a retired grandfather, called 911 and told the dispatcher he had a shotgun and was going to kill them. The dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside, but Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun and shot both in the back.

"The message we're trying to send today is the criminal justice system works," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson told reporters at the courthouse.

eta: I wish I could have been a fly on wall of the grand jury room. Texas law is perhaps the most permissive of all the states when it come to use of force. Horn's initial position was that it was self-defense, but Texas also has laws where (under some specific circumstances) one can use force to stop a fleeing felon even when it involves a third party.


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notmypresident (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 02:45 PM
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1. murderer
 Over property.

I really wish there were a hell.


Uh Oh

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pt22 (371 posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:26 PM
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9. Just goes to show crime does not pay...sometimes.
 We need more Joes.
 


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Tierra_y_Libertad  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 03:31 PM
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12. Only if you consider murder not a crime. 


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Bornaginhooligan (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:33 PM
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13. Or don't consider black people humans.


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Tierra_y_Libertad  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 03:35 PM
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15. It does raise some interesting questions.
 If Mr. Horn had been Black and murdered two white burglars?
 


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Bornaginhooligan (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:36 PM
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17. He'd be on death row already.
 And the people defending Horn would be happy with that.


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pt22 (371 posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 04:03 PM
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21. For what it's worth, I would still have enthusiastically defended his actions.
 Some DUers only see skin color in this saga...I only see criminal activity that ended badly for the perps
.


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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2008, 04:57:13 PM »
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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


If memory serves they were still there when the police arrived.  :evillaugh:



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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2008, 05:07:54 PM »
According to the 911 call, he did tell them to stop. They didn't. So he stopped them. I'd love to have that guy as my neighbor.  :cheersmate:
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2008, 05:47:38 PM »
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Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun after a 911 dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside his house.

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4. A guy shot a Repo Man...
 In the back, with a scoped, high powered rifle he kept loaded by the front door. He shot the guy from about two yards widths away, claiming he thought the guy was stealing his truck.

Maybe the DUmmie thinks it was a high-powered shotgun with a scope.  Idiot.   :thatsright: :whatever:
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 06:01:12 PM »
Who gives a rat's ass what color any of them were/are.  Justice was served up warm and sweet smelling.
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 06:36:35 PM »
No repeat offender problem with those two, justice is served. :bow:
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2008, 06:48:01 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on June 30, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
Who gives a rat's ass what color any of them were/are.  Justice was served up warm and sweet smelling.








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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 07:24:52 PM »
Think of ol' Joe as a dedicated abortionist who helped a poor society rid itself of two unwanted burdens it could not afford to feed, clothe, house, and educate.  Think of them as clumps of cells who won't need lumped into cells.
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2008, 07:38:12 PM »
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12. Only if you consider murder not a crime.


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Bornaginhooligan (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-30-08 03:33 PM
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13. Or don't consider black people humans.

See how these ****tards play the race card?  :whatever:

What are you saying, Bornagin, all black people are burglars?  You racist **** you.
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2008, 08:42:12 PM »
Oops the goblins were illegal immigrants.  Nice race card you DUmbass.
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2008, 08:50:25 PM »
I guess they need an official Joe Horn crying towel!
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2008, 11:01:20 PM »
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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


If memory serves they were still there when the police arrived.  :evillaugh:
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Re: Grand jury clears man for shooting men (Joe Horn)
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2008, 09:02:02 AM »
Quote from: Zeus on June 30, 2008, 04:18:56 PM

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skoalyman (143 posts)       Mon Jun-30-08 02:39 PM
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3. He should have held them till the police arrived


If memory serves they were still there when the police arrived.  :evillaugh:

H5!  And you deserve about 10 of them for this gem. :)
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