job question

[Scoobie]

I'm curious to know, and am still waiting for, snaz to explain how his morals, values, and beliefs, as expressed in this thread, make him categorize himself as a conservative:

Hello, i'm new here and thought i'd say hi finally. i live in Va and am a guy, 41 yrs old and conservative. thanks for adding me here, i look forward to typing with yall

You've given us a history of yourself dating back to '01 and not once, in any of your rantings, have you demonstrated conservative leanings in any way, shape, or form.


So what were you expecting?

[wasp69]

Hey, I have a bullshit Business Degree and am just south of $200K -- I also travel over 100K miles a year and have nights like last night when my trip was wiped out due to an unexpected blizzard and it only took me 4 hours to get delay-delay-delay-cancel.

Thank God I love what I do and left working for the State of California 15+ years ago.  If I stayed there I would be a suicide statistic by now...

Have you seen what this 'tard is typing?  A degree in PR?  And cannot use proper grammar or punctuation to save its life? 

I don't think someone who actually had a plan past getting a sit down job in a cube farm qualifies for the scorn this goon has so rightfully earned.

[freedumb2003b]

Have you seen what this 'tard is typing?  A degree in PR?  And cannot use proper grammar or punctuation to save its life? 

I don't think someone who actually had a plan past getting a sit down job in a cube farm qualifies for the scorn this goon has so rightfully earned.

I was sort of riffing on the joke...  Agree on all your points :)

[wasp69]

I was sort of riffing on the joke...  Agree on all your points

Oh...  Well, uh....   

[Mr Mannn]

you see, a guy like me steps back and figures out the problem and wants to fix the problem.

Then why don't you have a job? You figured out the problem and fixed it, right?
No. You chose homelessness. You made a choice.

You said being homeless is better than working at a crappy job.
No it is not. A job may be crappy, you may hate it, but if it puts a roof over your head, and food on your table...then it is a GOOD job.

I've worked crappy jobs. Hated every minute. But I did a good job, and when I could jump ship to a better place: I did.

But you seem to think it is somehow ennobling to be homeless. That is why I believe you are lying. I've known people who are really homeless, and they hate it.

Snaz, you are a simple troll. You're sitting at home, on a computer either you or mommy bought for you, and you are just being an a$$.

and as for being a true conservative...conservatives are self reliant. You don't even know what that means.
~~ B!tch slap for being a troll.

[MrsSmith]

sorry for taking so long to respond. i want to thank everyone for your comments. it helped me get an idea of what to expect around here once people learned of my situation. I'm a single 41 yr old male who has been homeless since Apr of 2013. i am a veteran and have an associates degree in electronics and a bachelors degree in public relations. i never got any unemployment and i am on food stamps currently till June of this year. unfortunately, i have been unable to find work from fast food stores to walmarts and dollar stores. i realize that the jobs lost arent coming back, but i do have some hope left that new jobs will be created eventually. i'm sure that most on here will probably have a low opinion of me, and i cant say i blame you. one thing i have learned from being homeless is that life is about winners and losers, and i'm not a winner by far. but in hte meantime, i keep coming to the library and trying to figure out what to do next. too much time is definitely a killer as boredom sets in right easy.

Electronics? Start applying to hospitals and other large medical companies...Fresenius, DaVita, etc.  Biomed tech jobs are not plentiful, but when a company needs one, cross training from electronics is very common. I would guess beginning wage now at maybe $12 - 15 an hour.  I've done it for 18 years and make $25+ in the lowest-wage portion of the US.

[Big Dog]

Sounds like we got another liberaltarian (another self-appointed "true conservative").

This asshole is not libertarian, Chris.

Here is the basis of his outlook on life:

In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!
-Karl Marx, "Critique of the Gotha Program"

[marv]

This is his ambition and destiny.....

[snazuolu]

I'm curious to know, and am still waiting for, snaz to explain how his morals, values, and beliefs, as expressed in this thread, make him categorize himself as a conservative:


You've given us a history of yourself dating back to '01 and not once, in any of your rantings, have you demonstrated conservative leanings in any way, shape, or form.

morning folks, just got to the library. since this comment seemed an honest question, i'd thought i'd answer it this morning. my morals, values, and beliefs are all conservative. i would say very conservative. first, i believe in economics first and foremost in life. the VERY reason we exist is to be prosperous. second, is freedom and liberty. the thing that kills me today is the belief that we are a nation founded on equality. we were NEVER founded on equality. if we were about equality first, why did we have a civil war? why did we need a 13,14,15 amendment? people may be born equally, but we do not remain equal. one of the things that i think the GOP is messing up on is this abortion mistake. the reality is, that people are going to do what they want to do. if you believe that gun control doesnt work, then why would you believe abortion control would work?? you cant have liberty and equality in the same system. 

as for calling me a liberal, i find it amusing that because i'm unemployed, i MUST be a liberal. the belief that if someone has a different belief than you, they cant be conservative. at this point, i realize that America cant be saved. the great experiment has finally failed. it has failed because of a lack of unity in the GOP. i realize that we will never see a true conservative pres or congressman in power again. the majority of Americans no longer know whats in their best interest. they wish for the govt to make the hard decisions for them. and i think too many people just go along with the program to save themselves any headache such as door knocks from big govt.

if you truely wanted to fix America, we would look into segregation. multiculturalism is a failure, socialism is a failure, and the American way is a failure. its time for like minded folk to live next to like minded folk. i hope this helps you out a bit. i have plenty more to discuss, but this is what comes to me this early morning. i havent had lunch yet and tummy is growling already.

[snazuolu]

Have you seen what this 'tard is typing?  A degree in PR?  And cannot use proper grammar or punctuation to save its life? 

I don't think someone who actually had a plan past getting a sit down job in a cube farm qualifies for the scorn this goon has so rightfully earned.

i LOVE it when folk rely on spelling and grammar on the internet as an argument. thanks wasp...you made my day brighter knowing i made you a bit flustered. as to the cubicle job....i cant think of a better job than a cubicle job. its my dream job. sitting behind a computer for 8 hrs a day AND getting paid?? HEAVEN son.. it would be HEAVEN to me.

[Eupher]

i LOVE it when folk rely on spelling and grammar on the internet as an argument. thanks wasp...you made my day brighter knowing i made you a bit flustered. as to the cubicle job....i cant think of a better job than a cubicle job. its my dream job. sitting behind a computer for 8 hrs a day AND getting paid?? HEAVEN son.. it would be HEAVEN to me.

Spelling and grammar are sidebar issues, to be sure, especially when compared to your professed acceptance for a lifestyle associated with the inherently greedy and welfare-dependent.

I'm gonna love this when wasp weighs in. Trust me, snaz, your ass will be sucking buttermilk.

 

[NHSparky]

well despite the negative (and a few decent) comments, i learned one thing. majority of those posting the negative comments are merely establishment republicans, not true conservatives.

Oh, shit--we got a live one here, kids!  A "true conservative", says he!

you see, a guy like me steps back and figures out the problem and wants to fix the problem.

Yeah, I'm going to be lectured about "solutions" and "fixes" by a guy whose life is a ****ing soup sandwich, who can't be bothered to do what it takes to even provide for his own basic needs, rather than sit on his ass and have the rest of the world provide for his shiftless ass.

i have YET to read one comment that actually addressed the real problem.

You're lazy.  Problem addressed.

it would seem that on one hand, liberals are trying to make the situation worse by raising min wage. you establishment republicans only viewpoint is that you should just work at ANY job you can find. both sides are not interested in trying to fix the problem.

Not really.  Liberals are more interested in creating a dependent class, and looking at you and hearing your story, they're doing a ****ing bang-up job of it.  A CONSERVATIVE (even us "establishment" types) is more of the mind of letting people rise (or sink) on their own merits and abilities.  Ohhh, you mean self-reliance does in fact matter?  Who knew?

the problem is, 20, 10 yrs ago, one could get any job they wanted as long as they had a college degree. today, that is not so.

Uh, newsflash--nope.  That's NEVER been the case.  You need to have a relevant degree, relevant experience, and most importantly, the attitude and work ethic that companies look for.  So far, you're batting .000, aren't you?

there are NO DECENT middle class jobs available. you have crappy wal mart jobs or you have jobs that require a MA and 10 yrs of experience. the middle class jobs are GONE. and they are not coming back.

Really?  I've been in the utility industry for the last 15 years, and there are plenty of them.  Sorry it's not sit-on-your-ass work, and involves a lot of physical effort, but I'm certainly well compensated for what I do.  So how bad do you want to eat?

not one person asked why did he go back to college so late in life? the reason is to never have to do crappy jobs again. i REFUSE to do another crappy job ever again. i'm better than that. i might be homeless but i still have my dignity knowing i'm not a wal mart greeter.

Nor am I, but if it came to that or homelessness, I'll mop floors, scrub shitters, and do what it takes to provide for me and my family--BTDT.  More than once.

we had a special on the local news the other nite talking about why people cant get a job today. they didnt go to some CEO or politician to find out, they went to the low level supervisors and HR folk. you know what they said?? again, they said what people like me have known for the last few years. 1. if you survived the recession in 08, you may very well last at your full time job for the foreseeable future. 2. if you have not worked in 6 months, you are unemployable no matter what skills you have. 3. the days of just hiring anybody to fill a position are long gone. One of the HR folk mentioned for a regular part time manufacturing position, it took them 8 weeks to find a person to hire. this person had no college, but had been working full time at another job. this leads back to #2. and lastly, because of the recession, companies now know just how much they can cut back and still profit.

Sounds like you need a serious kick in the ass.  You have yet to realize that you can be successful, if you WANT to be, if you're willing to WORK for it.  EVERYONE starts off at the bottom of their respective ladder.  What makes you think you're such a special little snowflake?  Newsflash--tough times only tell me who I'd want when TSHTF.  Those people you're talking to are also full of shit.  Competition is getting more cutthroat each and every day, and you either learn to survive, or you sit in the corner and whine like a little bitch.  From what I've seen, you're definitely not falling into the first camp.

you folks can keep thinking about how wal mart will save you, but the rest of us are going to sit back and wait till things get worse. things are going to get much worse before better. and BTW, some of you keep talking about how we are a "SOCIETY" well guess what...if thats your view then we are all in this together and you WILL continue to pay for "vermin" like me. hope that makes your day. oh yea, btw.. i changed a friends headlights for some money. easiest 20 bucks i made in the last 2 months. keep working for those that are on min wage lol.

Thanks to Obamacare, you might well be right.  But I'm not going to whine about it either.  I'm gonna put on my big girl panties and do what it takes to take care of me and mine.  Personally, you're not worth the sweat off my left nut, but then again, I won't have to worry about you on my jobsite either.  Bonus on both counts.

[NHSparky]

i LOVE it when folk rely on spelling and grammar on the internet as an argument. thanks wasp...you made my day brighter knowing i made you a bit flustered. as to the cubicle job....i cant think of a better job than a cubicle job. its my dream job. sitting behind a computer for 8 hrs a day AND getting paid?? HEAVEN son.. it would be HEAVEN to me.

Nobody is giving you grief over an occasional misspelled word.  It's your slaughtering of the English language, despite having a degree which would normally indicate at least a working knowledge of writing and communication, which gives us pause as to your bona fides and qualifications.

Maybe it's that, coupled with your entitlement attitude, which has generated the crappy results you've experienced thus far.  You can expect more of the same, until you change your outlook.  However, given your responses, I'm not seeing a whole lot of hope on that front either.

To sum it up, one of your GCE's (gross conceptual errors) is equality is something that is lifelong.  The Founding Fathers believed that all men are CREATED equal.  They don't all end up in the same place.  That misconception of equal results is the libtard canard, and a false one at that.  You would have been scorned by those you hold up.

[freedumb2003b]

i LOVE it when folk rely on spelling and grammar on the internet as an argument. thanks wasp...you made my day brighter knowing i made you a bit flustered. as to the cubicle job....i cant think of a better job than a cubicle job. its my dream job. sitting behind a computer for 8 hrs a day AND getting paid?? HEAVEN son.. it would be HEAVEN to me.

You don't understand brain-sweat do ya?

Situation: Procurement Director wants to have all end users perform their own purchases, with approvals over $1000 at the Manager level, $10,000 at the Director level, $100 million at the VP level.

The delivered system cannot manage above $1 million and it will take 10 months to get all end users access and trained.  The project is 5 months.

SOLVE!  This is your dream job!  And if you don't you get to go back to being someone who reports to the Walmart Greeter.

(fellow ERPers I know you can easily solve this and will poke holes in the premise:  This is a thought exercise exemplar that is the low bar on the "holy crap" continuum as you well know.  Let's see how Timmy enjoys his new dream job).

[freedumb2003b]

i LOVE it when folk rely on spelling and grammar on the internet as an argument. thanks wasp...you made my day brighter knowing i made you a bit flustered. as to the cubicle job....i cant think of a better job than a cubicle job. its my dream job. sitting behind a computer for 8 hrs a day AND getting paid?? HEAVEN son.. it would be HEAVEN to me.

Attention to detail is an important requirement for any job above Walmart Greeter.  A word or 2 may slip through but if you wish to tell the world you have intelligence then the mechanics (such as spelling, grammar and English syntax) are the entry points to creating credentials.

I do try (and I hope my friends here will back me up) to use proper grammar (sans the occasional dangling participle since it can be a hassle to reverse engineer sentences).  

If you want to be taken seriously then take the 1.4 seconds to read your posts before clicking the "Post" button.

And MY degree was business not Libtart Arts!

[Mr Mannn]

I vote we ban this troll.
He came here to start a fight.
He posts an obviously FALSE premise, that he he homeless by choice.

He's not even much fun as a chew toy. Boring troll is boring. Bobo the Hobo was more fun.
I say let him go before he starts fights elsewhere on the board.

[freedumb2003b]

I vote we ban this troll.
He came here to start a fight.
He posts an obviously FALSE premise, that he he homeless by choice.

He's not even much fun as a chew toy. Boring troll is boring. Bobo the Hobo was more fun.
I say let him go before he starts fights elsewhere on the board.

I disagree...

He is handing us perfect examples of what passes for argumentation in the libtard world.

He is on the line here and so few trolls actually make it beyond post 1.

It keeps us from being an echo chamber and helps a bit in keeping our blades sharp (although this particular troll is to our blades as pudding is to Bill Cosby).

Fun is where it finds you sometimes... :)

[marv]

I would agree to not ban him.

His ears are shut. He lives in his own universe and sees himself as some sort of rebellious, go-it-alone, anti-hero although he has nothing to offer except specious dreck.

If it's an eight hour sit-down job in front of a computer he wants, he could check with telemarketers or answering services. I think their turnover rates are pretty high. He could wear a white shirt, tie, and sit at a desk in a cubical since he seems to think that those are the marks of "middle-class".

I say leave him be; besides his posts can be amusing to read. And even failures can be useful as bad examples.

[freedumb2003b]

I would agree to not ban him.

His ears are shut. He lives in his own universe and sees himself as some sort of rebellious, go-it-alone, anti-hero although he has nothing to offer except specious dreck.

If it's an eight hour sit-down job in front of a computer he wants, he could check with telemarketers or answering services. I think their turnover rates are pretty high. He could wear a white shirt, tie, and sit at a desk in a cubical since he seems to think that those are the marks of "middle-class".

I say leave him be; besides his posts can be amusing to read. And even failures can be useful as bad examples.

If he can imitate Apu and can totally ignore what people say he should have a great future in software support.  Variant #2 of the DREAM job...

[obumazombie]

Would anyone want to predict what a reply from me would look like ? Anyone ? Bueller ?

[freedumb2003b]

Would anyone want to predict what a reply from me would look like ? Anyone ? Bueller ?

Asymmetrical...

[vesta111]

I vote he stay, he answers some questions I have on what's the trouble with kids today.

Could it be  he is using his deplorable condition as a cover up for his personal failings ?

I do know employers for a part time job driving a school bus do one heck of a back check on applicants.   We leave a paper trail a mile wide behind us.

Few businesses even the fast food joints will hire someone to handle money if they have a felony on record.   At the age of 41 he may have racked up all kinds of stuff that may make it impossible to be hired for other them migrant work in the fields.

He can go to a interview for a job but if he is currently wearing a police ankle bracelet, is on the sex offender list, is on the no rehire list from past jobs, it matters not what schools he has gone to, cannot pass a piss test--------Now he bitches he cannot get a job.

At the age of 41 homeless and crying the Blues, says he likes his life style on one hand and on the other he cannot find a job is rather odd.

Bah------excuses, excuses----   Even serial killers can come up with an excuse for their actions------

[Big Dog]

I would agree to not ban him.

His ears are shut. He lives in his own universe and sees himself as some sort of rebellious, go-it-alone, anti-hero although he has nothing to offer except specious dreck.

If it's an eight hour sit-down job in front of a computer he wants, he could check with telemarketers or answering services. I think their turnover rates are pretty high. He could wear a white shirt, tie, and sit at a desk in a cubical since he seems to think that those are the marks of "middle-class".

I say leave him be; besides his posts can be amusing to read. And even failures can be useful as bad examples.

I agree with you, marv. I'm really enjoying the ass-whoopin' this DUmbshit is getting, especially from sea. It proves Rule #37: Don't go talkin' shit about WalMart around sea!

High five for "even failures can be useful as bad examples".

[EagleKeeper]

I don't care one way or the other.

But...what I have noticed, is that he has introduced paragraphs into his skill set.

And for that I am thankful.

[NHSparky]

Yeah, but it's still the same whiny, "Woe is me, I'm too good for you/this/life" or "I'm the only TRUE conservative" bullshit.