http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024413055Oh my.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:36 AM
THESE 20 U.S. CITIES ARE ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE COLD
If you wonder why some of us don't feel a lot of sympathy hearing about how "cold" you have it when it reaches 30F, it's because what's cold to you is heavenly for us.
Yes, it is cold enough out there for us. It doesn’t even matter where there is — if you live in the United States right now, it’s probably Polar-vortex-level freezing. But thanks to the Weather Channel’s list of the 20 coldest big cities in America, you know exactly where you stand as far as wind chill-induced misery goes. Is it colder in your city than where your friends live? Colder than Boston? Colder than — gasp — Chicago?
TWC used average 30-year temperatures for December, January, and February to determine not which city has the most extreme cold or snow but the most persistent chill during core winter months. The results — based on data from the National Climatic Data Center — may surprise you (for instance, I don’t generally tend to think Colorado or Missouri when I think of frostbite). Of the 100 most populous U.S. cities, the most consistently cold locales are:
1. Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
2. Anchorage, Alaska
3. Madison, Wisconsin
4. Milwaukee, Wisconsin
5. Omaha, Nebraska
6. Chicago, Illinois
7. Lincoln, Nebraska
8. Rochester, New York
9. Buffalo, New York
10. Ft. Wayne, Indiana
11. Toledo, Ohio
12. Detroit, Michigan
13. Akron, Ohio
14. Cleveland, Ohio
15. Indianapolis, Indiana
16. Colorado Springs, Colorado
17. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
18. Denver, Colorado
19. Kansas City, Missouri
20. Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.bustle.com/articles/12208-these-20-us-cities-are-allowed-to-complain-about-the-cold
<<<agrees with our former colleague; while on one hand it's understandable that people get all upset and bent out of shape when dealing with climate with which they're unfamiliar--such as snow in the south--it's not quite the same thng as dealing with life-threatening weather.
One's simply uncomfortable, inconvenienced, not in peril for their lives.
But it's apparent franksolich is the only one who agrees with our former colleague.
flamingdem (27,430 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:38 AM
1. You forgot Burlington, Vt*
The cold wind off Lake Champlain makes it a contender
*not a "major city" as specified by the article; the primitive has poor reading comprehension.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:40 AM
2. Weather.com picked the cities
Not me. All I know is that I live in the coldest major metropolitan area in the country, and this year has been the worst in decades.
Whisp (21,627 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:40 AM
3. No, that's wrong.
If you wonder why some of us don't feel a lot of sympathy hearing about how "cold" you have it when it reaches 30F, it's because what's cold to you is heavenly for us.
I feel sympathy for anyone thrown into something unfamiliar and possibly dangerous.
I live in colder than anyone here, probably and I can't find one whiff of superiority to people that have no idea what cold is on a regular basis. Or snow and bad highways.
Maybe I read you wrong. I hope.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:45 AM
5. Part of it is I don't understand how those tempeartures can be dangerous
-20 F is dangerous. 30 is not. Sure, it's a drag. Nobody likes to be uncomfortable. When your mayor doesn't prepare the city, it can be a nightmare. But most people simply have weather colder than what they are used to.
Whisp (21,627 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:46 AM
7. I think that is the part, the part is you don't understand.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:49 AM
11. then enlighten me
Unless someone is homeless and living outside for a prolonged period of time, there is nothing dangerous about it. They face far greater danger during hurricanes.
Are you seriously going to say that 40 degree temperature in the South is more dangerous than -20 or -30 F in the North?
Whisp (21,627 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:58 AM
15. well yeah. We are used to it in the north.
Heaters, hot rum toddies, toques, plug ins for your vehicles.
And we have a sense of what all the seasons mean. I am north of you and have Extreme. Some summers are blazing egg frying sidewalk and some winters Antartica feeling (this winter we went -50 celsius, at -40 Farenheit and Celsius meet). The vast difference in temperatures in numbers is astounding.
I don't mean to get into fistycuffs with you BB, but man, people are suffering from the cold they are not used to and we just can't will it away by acting like it is not happening and because we know and are attuned to a different weather.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:00 AM
16. Atlanta suffered
Homeless people suffer. Others are UNCOMFORTABLE. Being uncomfortable is not suffering.
Whisp (21,627 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:02 AM
20. No, but making a deal of it feels more uncomfortable at the moment.
I don't find this too much different for people than being assaulted by a hurricane or tornado. At a much less scale Obviously, but still. They are faced with something 'uncomfortable' and for me, the very least I can do is not mock them!
^^^yeah, yeah, yeah, this "I'm morally superior to you" bullshit of Democrats, liberals, and primitives.
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kentauros (23,833 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:42 AM
4. It's called "acclimation."
Learn it and you might understand how to have sympathy for those in conditions they are nowhere near used to enduring.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:46 AM
6. I lived near the ecuator
and I've lived in MN. It takes a while to get used to it, but then some people just enjoy complaining.

kentauros (23,833 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:49 AM
10. Good for you.
So, you were able to acclimate to it. Not all of us can, or do. So, it's still ****ing cold for us in the South, whether you are able to find any sympathy for us or not.
Also, what most are complaining about is not so much the cold as it is the assholes laughing at us for not being able to acclimate as perfectly as them.
<<<am sure that if a hurricane struck Nebraska, primitives would guffaw and laugh at us for not being able to get used to it.
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:51 AM
12. I'm not laughing
I am saying you should count your blessings. But go on and whine about how much worse it is for you to hit 40 degrees than for others to freeze to death at -25F.
kentauros (23,833 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:01 AM
18. Where did I say anything about it being worse for us?
Don't go putting words in my posts that aren't there. YOU said you have no sympathy for us in this coldwave because we're not suffering anywhere near as much as y'all are. Now who's doing the whining?
Whisp (21,627 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:12 AM
26. how long of a while did these people have and how long did you have ---?
knowing what climate you were going into.
honestly, I feel like someone stole your password, BB.
wtf.
<<<doesn't think anybody stole BainsBane's password; she's probably just drunk.
But even if drunk, her points are good and solid and valid.
stevil (185 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:47 AM
to BainsBane:
8. So much compassion.
Are you for real?
BainsBane (22,467 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:54 AM
14. For ****'s sake
There is nothing people won't get themselves in an outrage about on this site.
The Straight Story (45,988 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:00 AM
17. Indeed, from holding open doors to owning something someone doesn't like (like guns)
People get upset at all sorts of things
stevil (185 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:01 AM
to BainsBane:
19. You are kidding?
Carry on....
Fumesucker (35,481 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:10 AM
25. Indeed, even including getting outraged at people who dare to complain of being cold
Outraged enough to put up an OP about such awful behavior.
alcibiades_mystery (29,770 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:54 AM
13. I walk a little less than a mile from the "L" home (Chicago, North Side)
Tonight was something like 22 degrees. It really felt like room temperature after the last week! Now, I'm bundled and layered up, of course, but still.
I agree with posters calling for compassion. But there is a tiny little corner of my soul that's like "Oh, buck the **** up. It's 30 degrees? Gimme a break!"
Yeah.
Niceguy1 (1,861 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:08 AM
23. depends on what you are used to
And equipped to deal with. Some peoplebdont have cars and may not bave the clothing or sufficently warm housing to deal with dramatic temperature decreases. And we have had homeless die at 30.....just saying.
A little empathy never hurts and it doesnt cost anything, either
^^^more of this "I'm morally superior to you" bullshit of Democrats, liberals, and primitives.
Spider Jerusalem (16,587 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:09 AM
24. Sorry, but, no
cold weather is normal for all of those cities. It's 10F in Atlanta right now. The normal temperature for the time of year is above freezing. People living in areas where they aren't acclimated to extreme cold weather have every right to "complain about the cold". Telling them they don't makes you an asshole.
Okay. That's it. I'm putting this primitive on the "watch list" for the Top DUmmies of 2014, for that gratuitous, undeserved, unwarranted slander of the lady.
BainsBane may be an insufferable elitist prig who thinks she's cerebrally-superior to us

, but she's no rectal aperture; that description better fits tons of other primitives, but not her.