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ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« on: December 10, 2013, 07:20:57 AM »
I originally posted this in another thread, but decided to give it it’s own just to make sure you see it.

You have bragged about posting on DU that you owned guns and have hunted and did not get banned for the post. Try posting the below at DU…

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Unemployment is worse now than under President Bush. The American people are hurting.

We like to blame this on the Republicans and call them obstructionists; however, the fact remains that for the last few years of the Bush administration and for the first few years of the Obama administration the Democrats controlled both houses of congress. Since there was no great improvement during these periods of congressional control, I have to assume that to some degree at least some of the Democrats that we have elected are part of the problem.

As a result, I’ve decided that from this point on, when I vote in an election, I will vote for candidates based solely on their ability to help the country as a whole and will disregard their political affiliation. This means that if I feel a particular candidate will be beneficial to the country I will vote for said candidate even if he or she is a Tea Party Republican.

This does NOT mean that I am turning away from the Democratic Party. I intend to remain a Democrat and a member of the Democratic Party. It just means that I've decided to put the well-being of the country above the well-being of the party.

I have made this decision because I love the United States of America. I feel the USA is a great country with even greater potential.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2013, 07:56:54 AM »
This could be really fun or excruciatingly boring...
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 08:11:08 AM »
If it was posted over there I doubt a DUmmie would be able to get by the 4th word before clicking on the "alert abuse" link.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 08:42:40 AM »
This could be really fun or excruciatingly boring...
If it involves Pretzelboy, I'm putting my money on the latter.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 09:03:55 AM »
When the going gets tough, the tough DUmmies get going....back to the safety of the DUmp.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 09:12:18 AM »
So long pretz! We hardly knew ye....










Thankfully  :wink:
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 10:03:52 AM »
If we had only read his diaries (or was that diarrhea) over at the dump, we surely would have fallen to our knees at our heroic leaders feet and begged for forgiveness and SNAP cards.

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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2013, 12:52:48 PM »
I originally posted this in another thread, but decided to give it it’s own just to make sure you see it.

You have bragged about posting on DU that you owned guns and have hunted and did not get banned for the post. Try posting the below at DU…


Unemployment was at 7.3% under Bush in December 2008 and the rate of job josses was staggering as Bush and Paulson stared dumbounded at the wreckage they presided over.  Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0%  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO!

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.  That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 12:55:47 PM »
Unemployment was at 7.3% under Bush in December 2008 and the rate of job josses was staggering as Bush and Paulson stared dumbounded at the wreckage they presided over.  Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0%  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO!

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.  That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

Just out of curiosity, when do you start figuring the post-holiday employment slump?
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2013, 12:57:19 PM »
Unemployment was at 7.3% under Bush in December 2008 and the rate of job josses was staggering as Bush and Paulson stared dumbounded at the wreckage they presided over.  Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0%  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO!

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.  That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

What is the labor participation rate today and how does that impact the unemployment numbers?


On edit...your completely inane and ludicrous insistence that insurance plans canceled due to Ocare were "junk" came straight from administration talking points.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2013, 12:59:59 PM »
Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0% 

You can't possibly believe that. No one, not even a DUmmie is that stupid.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 01:01:39 PM »
You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

But you might get replies......precious repliesssssssss.

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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 01:04:04 PM »
Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0% And you would be wrong about that.

  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO! You'd be wrong about that too.

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions. Which you'd appear to be about as good at that as the Invincible Krugtron 

That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point. Yeah right, anything less then 6,000 posts and you would on thin ice.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 01:07:25 PM »
Lets see if I can make this work.






Read more here http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2013/07/05/why-the-real-unemployment-rate-is-higher-than-you-think/

Then you can begin to apply your mad analyltical skillz.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 01:15:22 PM »
Oh yeah, here is a list of the "not" republican jobs bills that have been stalled in the senate.

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled



Edit: by the way, I know you'll write this stuff off as being rethug sites.

After all, aren't they all.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2013, 01:18:47 PM »
Why would the republicans help pass a "Jobs" bill?  WTF is a Jobs bill?  Why is the ****ing government trying to create "jobs?"  Damn't...  Guess in my shitty Civics class in my shitty red state they did forgot to teach me that is was the job of the Government to create Jobs.

If the Government has to pass some shit bill to create Jobs it should tell you that their other policies/laws are hostile to the Job Market.  FFS!!!  :yahoo:
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2013, 01:20:41 PM »
Lets see if I can make this work.






Read more here http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2013/07/05/why-the-real-unemployment-rate-is-higher-than-you-think/

Then you can begin to apply your mad analyltical skillz.

Now you went and done it!  You posted FACTS!  Poison to libtards!

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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2013, 01:22:35 PM »
Unemployment was at 7.3% under Bush in December 2008 and the rate of job josses was staggering as Bush and Paulson stared dumbounded at the wreckage they presided over.  Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0%  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO!

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.  That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

So what you're saying is that in 2008, under a Democrat controlled congress, unemployment was bad, and the numbers have stayed bad because the Republicans don't have the numbers to outvote the Dems?

Let's do it this way. I've revised my first statement to make it more accurate for you. I've also broken things down and numbered them. You tell me which numbers are incorrect and/or which numbers with which you disagree.

1-Unemployment is worse now than under President Bush and Republican controlled congress.

2-The American people are hurting.

3-We like to blame this on the Republicans and call them obstructionists;

4-however, the fact remains that for the last few years of the Bush administration and for the first few years of the Obama administration the Democrats controlled both houses of congress.

5-Since there was no great improvement during these periods of congressional control,

6-I have to assume that to some degree at least some of the Democrats that we have elected are part of the problem.

7-As a result, I’ve decided that from this point on, when I vote in an election, I will vote for candidates based solely on their ability to help the country as a whole and will disregard their political affiliation.

8-This means that if I feel a particular candidate will be beneficial to the country I will vote for said candidate even if he or she is a Tea Party Republican.

9-This does NOT mean that I am turning away from the Democratic Party. I intend to remain a Democrat and a member of the Democratic Party.

10-It just means that I've decided to put the well-being of the country above the well-being of the party.

11-I have made this decision because I love the United States of America.

12-I feel the USA is a great country with even greater potential.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 01:23:53 PM »
Why would the republicans help pass a "Jobs" bill?  WTF is a Jobs bill?  Why is the ****ing government trying to create "jobs?"  Damn't...  Guess in my shitty Civics class in my shitty red state didn't forgot to teach that is was the job of the Government to create Jobs.

If the Government has to pass some shit bill to create Jobs it should tell you that their other policies/laws are hostile to the Job Market.  FFS!!!  :yahoo:

A "jobs bill" would be the following:

The Federal, State and local government will withdraw all rules and regulations unless each and every rule passes legislative scrutiny as being absolutely and DEMONSTRABLY necessary to ensure the health of Americans.  

Jobs would explode and the GDP would jump to double digits.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2013, 01:25:17 PM »
So what you're saying is that in 2008, under a Democrat controlled congress, unemployment was bad, and the numbers have stayed bad because the Republicans don't have the numbers to outvote the Dems?

Let's do it this way. I've revised my first statement to make it more accurate for you. I've also broken things down and numbered them. You tell me which numbers are incorrect and/or which numbers with which you disagree.

1-Unemployment is worse now than under President Bush and Republican controlled congress.

2-The American people are hurting.

3-We like to blame this on the Republicans and call them obstructionists;

4-however, the fact remains that for the last few years of the Bush administration and for the first few years of the Obama administration the Democrats controlled both houses of congress.

5-Since there was no great improvement during these periods of congressional control,

6-I have to assume that to some degree at least some of the Democrats that we have elected are part of the problem.

7-As a result, I’ve decided that from this point on, when I vote in an election, I will vote for candidates based solely on their ability to help the country as a whole and will disregard their political affiliation.

8-This means that if I feel a particular candidate will be beneficial to the country I will vote for said candidate even if he or she is a Tea Party Republican.

9-This does NOT mean that I am turning away from the Democratic Party. I intend to remain a Democrat and a member of the Democratic Party.

10-It just means that I've decided to put the well-being of the country above the well-being of the party.

11-I have made this decision because I love the United States of America.

12-I feel the USA is a great country with even greater potential.

9 belies 12.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 01:34:59 PM »
blah blah blah

The "Stimulus" jacked federal spending $800BN the year it was passed. Since then we've had nothing but continuing resolutions that have kept federal spending elevated.

Where's our money?
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 01:38:58 PM »
The "Stimulus" jacked federal spending $800BN the year it was passed. Since then we've had nothing but continuing resolutions that have kept federal spending elevated.

Where's our money?



Yeah, when was the last time a budget passed through the Senate again?
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 01:41:18 PM »
One statistic that needs to be mentioned more often in this conversation IMO
http://nation.foxnews.com/disability/2012/07/10/scary-chart-day-disability-vs-jobs

Investor’s Business Daily reported:
 
More workers joined the federal government’s disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports, a clear indicator of how bleak the nation’s jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.
 
The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
 
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama’s recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2013, 01:43:44 PM »
Unemployment was at 7.3% under Bush in December 2008 and the rate of job josses was staggering as Bush and Paulson stared dumbounded at the wreckage they presided over.  Today, the unemployment rate is 7.0%  After dealing with ZERO help from Republicans on a jobs bill of any kind for the past few years, it is no surprise Obama has not been able to help move the needle. All you do is blame your Republican leadership's intransigence when you talk about jobs.  They don't care about jobs. McConnell and company had as job 1 making sure Obama wasn't reelected. And they F*CKED THAT UP TOO!

I would never post that snippet over at DU because it's not what I believe. I, unlike a lot of shallow people here, do not just post what someone (Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews) tells me to post. I form my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.  That could be a reason I'm not 100% in lock step with the majority at DU and why many here disagree with me but some have seen I try to be reasonable.

P.S. if you need examples that people can posters can post negative stuff about Obama without getting jury hides or banned over at DU....those threads are in great abundance depending on the week. You don't need my post over there to prove that point.

Here's a clue for you DUmmy, just because the word jobs is in the title of a bill doesn't mean it will create jobs. The obstruction from the GOP is the reason things aren't even worse than they are. If Obama had managed to get all his tax increases we would be in much worse shape.
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Re: ATTN: Pretzel Warrior
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2013, 01:45:48 PM »
Here's a clue for you DUmmy, just because the word jobs is in the title of a bill doesn't mean it will create jobs. The obstruction from the GOP is the reason things aren't even worse than they are. If Obama had managed to get all his tax increases we would be in much worse shape.

Which may happen yet...
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