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Fact/fiction. Need your insight.
« on: June 25, 2008, 03:11:05 PM »
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Disorganized  (701 posts)      Mon Jun-23-08 02:12 PM
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 Advertisements [?]In 2003 Tor/Forge published my husband's novel, the story of a man-eating tiger loose in the mountains of North Georgia. The heart of the book was a battle between the tiger and a hunter for the soul of a small boy. The tiger was trying to show the child what it meant to be a tiger, the hunter what it meant to be a man. The book was sympathetic to the tiger, to the the child and to the hunter.

Fast forward to Wednesday night. A mountain lion killed a man and ate him, less than two miles from our house. The week before the killing the lion had shown himself several times on our road: he'd followed one couple home, another woke up to find him on their deck. We didn't know it at the time but still another neighbor had been feeding raw chicken to the lion.

Less than a year ago a female lion was killed by a car in this area and I wonder if she left behind a youngster who hadn't yet learned to hunt. It would explain the donkey that was attacked by a lion in the hindquarters but not the neck, the housecat who was taken from a ledge with the owners sitting very close, the lion foraging through trash cans the day of the killing, a human who was killed in an area that is teeming with game. I hurt for the man, but if my what ifs are true, also for the lion. I'm trying to send light to the lion, along with a message that this is its time and that it won't be hungry again. My husband wrote so powerfully about the hunger of the tiger and I keep relating that hunger to a lion who was trying to find food in a trash can.

My husband has been sick and so didn't meet the lion. He is a death investigator, which means he investigates unattended deaths and, if he'd been well, would have been called to this one. My question is why? Why didn't he see the lion, why did a maneating lion show up in the neighborhood of a writer who had written about a maneating tiger? I wonder if, because he wrote sympathetically about a maneater, he is protected, that the Universe won't let him take a chance and so has kept him away?

As far as we know, the lion is still alive so the story isn't over. The victim's neighbors said that the lion was tracked near our road, which means he's probably coming home. Game & Fish didn't show much interest before this happened (told one caller they were going on vacation) and they quit looking after two days. (Mississippi can say thank God for New Mexico.)

I'd appreciate if any of you get a sense of what the real meaning is here. I'm so close I can't get a clear view of what it means. Just know it means something. Also - I've forgotten what sign, house, planet rules large animals. I never paid any attention to it since I never thought I'd need to know.

p.s. The book was made into a really bad movie for the Sci-Fi channel, maybe the worst movie ever made. Curiously Sci-Fi ran it again yesterday afternoon.
 
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 Did the man-eating tiger in the story have in mind to eat the boy?

There are all kinds of possibilities for what you're observing. Did your husband manifest a lion in his reality? Did the work inspire a thought form that comes to life (can't remember the term at the moment)? Is the lion picking up on subliminal messages from your husband, which could have been sent at any time? I wouldn't know where to begin to analyze. But, I'm glad you shared. 


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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 03:14:16 PM »
Lunacy indeed. And they get to vote! :thatsright:
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 03:15:04 PM »
I'm not sure if I read the details correctly; I suspect the disorganized primitive is seeking something "deep" in the "meaning" of this.

I think all it means is that one has to be on the lookout for dangerous wild animals, no matter where he lives.

Nothing more than that.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 03:16:50 PM »
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Fact/fiction. Need your insight.

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I'd appreciate if any of you get a sense of what the real meaning is here. I'm so close I can't get a clear view of what it means. Just know it means something.

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 03:17:35 PM »
Quote from: Peter3_1 on June 25, 2008, 03:14:16 PM
Lunacy indeed. And they get to vote! :thatsright:

I can't believe that the DUmmy was capable of slinging that many words at a computer screen without making a single point.  I read the whole ****ing thing, hoping that the point of the story would emerge if only I read a little further on.  I feel cheated.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 03:19:39 PM »
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I'm trying to send light to the lion, along with a message that this is its time and that it won't be hungry again.

 :lmao: Whahat the hell?  :lmao:

We call that spotlighting in Mississippi. By the way, I doubt the cat is equipped with a fiber-optic receiver.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2008, 03:22:45 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on June 25, 2008, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: Peter3_1 on June 25, 2008, 03:14:16 PM
Lunacy indeed. And they get to vote! :thatsright:

I can't believe that the DUmmy was capable of slinging that many words at a computer screen without making a single point.  I read the whole ****ing thing, hoping that the point of the story would emerge if only I read a little further on.  I feel cheated.

I think the point is that the power of white light can turn a lion vegetarian ... or something.
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Re: Fact/fiction. Need your insight.
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2008, 03:26:27 PM »
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0846713/ Maneater=A tiger is loose on a small town and only a young boy, a sheriff and the hunter to destroy the beast
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I guess this is it since there aren't a lot of movies on Sci Fi about tigers. :-)
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2008, 03:28:18 PM »
That's a movie, and all the humans want it dead:

A tiger is loose on a small town and only a young boy, a sheriff and the hunter to destroy the beast.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2008, 04:13:45 PM »
What an incredibly disordered mind that woman has.  Perhaps she should test her beliefs by stripping, smearing bacon grease all over her body, donning a garland of smoked sausages, and tripping off lightly into the woods to seek enlightenment.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2008, 04:19:59 PM »
This could have legs.  A couple of days ago I told my neighbor, Bubba Dean, he was batshit crazy.  Last night a bat shit on me.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 04:23:10 PM »
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What an incredibly disordered mind that woman has.  Perhaps she should test her beliefs by stripping, smearing bacon grease all over her body, donning a garland of smoked sausages, and tripping off lightly into the woods to seek enlightenment.
Who could afford anythng better than Spam in this horrible * economy. :(
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 04:37:36 PM »
Quote from: bijou on June 25, 2008, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 25, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
What an incredibly disordered mind that woman has.  Perhaps she should test her beliefs by stripping, smearing bacon grease all over her body, donning a garland of smoked sausages, and tripping off lightly into the woods to seek enlightenment.
Who could afford anythng better than Spam in this horrible * economy. :(

Shhh, don't interfere with the bait.  I'm hunting mountain lions.   :evillaugh:
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 04:41:52 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 25, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: bijou on June 25, 2008, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 25, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
What an incredibly disordered mind that woman has.  Perhaps she should test her beliefs by stripping, smearing bacon grease all over her body, donning a garland of smoked sausages, and tripping off lightly into the woods to seek enlightenment.
Who could afford anythng better than Spam in this horrible * economy. :(

Shhh, don't interfere with the bait.  I'm hunting mountain lions.   :evillaugh:
Oh well in that case, put me on the list for a lion skin rug.  :-)
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 04:53:36 PM »
Years and years ago...and about 300 miles away...we found a bunch of orphan opossums on their dead mother, and we raised them in the house on dog food and milk.  We eventually set them loose, and for many years, we had opossums come on our porch to eat cat food with our cats.

Last year, here at our house completely across the state, we had an opossum get into the garage because the door was open too far.  While it ate cat food, our dog went out and killed it. 

I wonder what  it all means??   :???: :???:




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Years and years ago...and about 300 miles away...we found a bunch of orphan opossums on their dead mother, and we raised them in the house on dog food and milk.  We eventually set them loose, and for many years, we had opossums come on our porch to eat cat food with our cats.

Last year, here at our house completely across the state, we had an opossum get into the garage because the door was open too far.  While it ate cat food, our dog went out and killed it. 

I wonder what  it all means??   :???: :???:



 :lmao:

God wanted the opposum to die! :rotf: :lmao:

Seriously, though, maybe He did.  Maybe He was allowing your dog to "blow off some steam," and this was His perfect way of allowing it.

Then again, maybe your dog was just seeing the light that said, KILL!!!

Please forgive me . . . I couldn't resist.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2008, 06:50:56 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 25, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: MrsSmith on June 25, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
Years and years ago...and about 300 miles away...we found a bunch of orphan opossums on their dead mother, and we raised them in the house on dog food and milk.  We eventually set them loose, and for many years, we had opossums come on our porch to eat cat food with our cats.

Last year, here at our house completely across the state, we had an opossum get into the garage because the door was open too far.  While it ate cat food, our dog went out and killed it. 

I wonder what  it all means??   :???: :???:



 :lmao:

God wanted the opposum to die! :rotf: :lmao:

Seriously, though, maybe He did.  Maybe He was allowing your dog to "blow off some steam," and this was His perfect way of allowing it.

Then again, maybe your dog was just seeing the light that said, KILL!!!

Please forgive me . . . I couldn't resist.

Well, since she's an evil, repuke dog, I'm sure we get the red, hating, murderous light instead of the healing, white light.   :lmao:
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2008, 06:52:14 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on June 25, 2008, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 25, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: MrsSmith on June 25, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
Years and years ago...and about 300 miles away...we found a bunch of orphan opossums on their dead mother, and we raised them in the house on dog food and milk.  We eventually set them loose, and for many years, we had opossums come on our porch to eat cat food with our cats.

Last year, here at our house completely across the state, we had an opossum get into the garage because the door was open too far.  While it ate cat food, our dog went out and killed it. 

I wonder what  it all means??   :???: :???:



 :lmao:

God wanted the opposum to die! :rotf: :lmao:

Seriously, though, maybe He did.  Maybe He was allowing your dog to "blow off some steam," and this was His perfect way of allowing it.

Then again, maybe your dog was just seeing the light that said, KILL!!!

Please forgive me . . . I couldn't resist.

Well, since she's an evil, repuke dog, I'm sure we get the red, hating, murderous light instead of the healing, white light.   :lmao:

LOL!   :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:  H5!
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Re: Fact/fiction. Need your insight.
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2008, 07:37:22 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 25, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
What an incredibly disordered mind that woman has.  Perhaps she should test her beliefs by stripping, smearing bacon grease all over her body, donning a garland of smoked sausages, and tripping off lightly into the woods to seek enlightenment.

Now THAT would finally be speaking "truth to power"!

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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 12:41:24 AM »
I'm not certifiably dumber for reading that. :bawl:
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2008, 10:00:50 AM »
Quote from: mamacags on June 25, 2008, 03:26:27 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0846713/ Maneater=A tiger is loose on a small town and only a young boy, a sheriff and the hunter to destroy the beast
3.9 out of 10 stars
Written by Philip Morton

I guess this is it since there aren't a lot of movies on Sci Fi about tigers. :-)

I looked and found the same thing, then found this.  Monographic related book
Warner, Jack. Maneater  From the authors site: In 2002, we abandoned Atlanta and moved to Silver City, N.M.

So this mysterious tiger moved from Georgia and  followed them to New Mexico?  Then there is the fact that google news turns up nothing about a tiger or even a mountain lion killing anyone in Georgia.

Bouncy?

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 11:49:31 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 26, 2008, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: mamacags on June 25, 2008, 03:26:27 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0846713/ Maneater=A tiger is loose on a small town and only a young boy, a sheriff and the hunter to destroy the beast
3.9 out of 10 stars
Written by Philip Morton

I guess this is it since there aren't a lot of movies on Sci Fi about tigers. :-)

I looked and found the same thing, then found this.  Monographic related book
Warner, Jack. Maneater  From the authors site: In 2002, we abandoned Atlanta and moved to Silver City, N.M.

So this mysterious tiger moved from Georgia and  followed them to New Mexico?   Then there is the fact that google news turns up nothing about a tiger or even a mountain lion killing anyone in Georgia.

Bouncy?


It's like a Jaws sequel only with lions.  :lmao:
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2008, 03:21:24 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2008, 07:50:00 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 26, 2008, 10:00:50 AM
So this mysterious tiger moved from Georgia and  followed them to New Mexico?  Then there is the fact that google news turns up nothing about a tiger or even a mountain lion killing anyone in Georgia.

Bouncy?



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Man attacked, eaten by mountain lion


PHOENIX - A mountain lion attacked, killed and partially ate a New Mexico man, authorities said on Tuesday.

A search party found the body of Robert Nawojski, 55, in a wooded area near his mobile home in Pinos Altos, New Mexico, late last week, the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish said.

Investigators concluded that Nawojski had been attacked and killed by a mountain lion, or cougar, at a spot close to his home, where he lived alone and was known to bathe and shave outdoors.

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This is probably the news story in reference.  The rest of it is actually too whacko for a bouncy.  At least BouncyBall made sense in the real world, even if she did lie a lot.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2008, 07:56:01 PM »
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I'm trying to send light to the lion, along with a message that this is its time and that it won't be hungry again. My husband wrote so powerfully about the hunger of the tiger and I keep relating that hunger to a lion who was trying to find food in a trash can.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!   :rotf:
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