Pedro Picasso more frustrated

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3498779

Oh my.

ruggerson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-21-08 09:25 PM
Original message

Poll question: Has your time at DU made you more liberal or less?
   
Explain.

Poll result (219 votes)

More liberal over all   (85 votes, 39%)   
Less liberal over all   (36 votes, 16%)   
More liberal on some issues, less on others   (16 votes, 7%)   
No one at DU has ever influenced me, I am right where I was before I stepped foot in here   (73 votes, 33%)   
Other   (9 votes, 4%)

It's a very large bonfire, so only the primitives of prominence:

Tierra_y_Libertad  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-21-08 09:30 PM
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2. Slightly more of an Anarchist than I was.
   
"The Fascists will shoot you.
The Conservatives will applaud the Fascists.
The Moderates will be watching the big game on TV.
The Liberals will cry over your grave and feel guilty for turning you in."

Old '60s saying.

Tierra_y_Libertad  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #15

32. Or, violent.
   
Gandhi was an Anarchist.

Oh?

GreenPartyVoter  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-21-08 09:42 PM
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8. Not sure if it's a result of DU or the ** junta.. but I think I am getting even more liberal (if possible) At the very least I'm madder and more depressed.

sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #23

26. Speaking of understanding, liberal democrats are not extremists.

Oh?

WritingIsMyReligion  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #18

54. Completely agree.
   
I used to think I was far left until I visited some of the forums on here. Lord!

CaliforniaPeggy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 12:09 AM
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29. WAY more liberal!
   
Better educated too, and more knowledgable to boot...

sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 01:17 AM
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38. Not more liberal, just more cranky.

tom_paine  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 09:23 AM
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43. More liberal, though I try hard to keep myself anchored to the moderate center.
   
Problem is, whenever one side gets too much power and/or begins to abuse it (the two usually go hand in hand), the opposite end AUTOMATICALLY seems to make more sense.

If hardcore Lefties/Communists did to this country what the Bushies did, I have no doubt I would be over at Free Republic, doing the same thing I am doing here now.

I call it "The Seesaw Effect" and I have watched it and lived it these last seven years, even while trying to be self-aware about it.

*******, with all this Bushie criminality and abuse of power, even the World Socialst Website makes a helluva lot more sense than CNNFOXMSNBC (KO and sometimes Abrams excepted).

Does that mean I am embracing hardcore socialism or communism? Hell NO! It means that, IMHO, The Seesaw Effect, as I call it, is real.

So if I am to be honest, my answer HAS to be "more liberal", though I have tried hard to keep reminding myself of my center-left core beliefs, my distrust of extremism both Left and Right, my distrust of all those who wield power, for it corrupts.

But the Bushies have so discredited right-wing and even by extension center-right ideals with their serial feloniousnes and outright treasons, their many fraud and thefts adding up to trillions of dollars and our future looted.

Add to that the creepy way Pelosi, Reid, and the Capitulation Bunch have discredited supposed moderates (but they aren't moderates at all, I tell myself, they are capitulators and collaborators with one of the most criminal regimes the Developed World has seen in the last 250 years, though not nearly the most violent...for the moment).

Yes, definitely more liberal. It is somewhat inevitable considering the moral bankruptcy of the Right and the supposed Center.

But I try to remember, this is somewhat artificial, and if this emergency ever ends and the Old American Republic is restored to some health, I hope my core beliefs and moderation would reassert themselves.

Atman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 01:41 PM
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56. Neither, only more frustrated.

HypnoToad  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 04:59 PM
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60. Define 'liberal'. Until then, none of us can fully explain.

Buzz Clik  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-22-08 05:07 PM
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62. Less liberal for sure. The extremist idiots here are a total reality check.

It's good to see the buzzy one is still alive and clicking on Skins's island.

Well, there's lots more at this bonfire, but that's all the primitives of prominence.

[DixieBelle]

Last night, PBS was running a show about the "Summer of Love". I missed all but the last few minutes. They had old footage of the barefoot, stoned hippies running around The Haight. It was quite illuminating. I immediately thought the of DUmmies. Now, I doubt Pedro was barefoot in SF, but I bet a lot of DU was. Or, they were the poseurs trying to get to SF only to find out it didn't "shimmer" anymore or didn't exactly carry over as well in their own backyard. I think this explains the frustrations for some of the vintage DUmmies.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/love/index.html?campaign=pbshomefeatures_5_americanexperiencebrsummeroflove_2008-06-24

[franksolich]

Last night, PBS was running a show about the "Summer of Love". I missed all but the last few minutes. They had old footage of the barefoot, stoned hippies running around The Haight. It was quite illuminating. I immediately thought the of DUmmies. Now, I doubt Pedro was barefoot in SF, but I bet a lot of DU was. Or, they were the poseurs trying to get to SF only to find out it didn't "shimmer" anymore or didn't exactly carry over as well in their own backyard. I think this explains the frustrations for some of the vintage DUmmies.

Pedro Picasso, who self-admittedly is 50 years old (give or take a few months; it was circa two years ago he admitted he was 48 years old), is a tad bit young to recall the heyday of the hippies, although he might have caught on the tail-end of the era.

Pedro Picasso was raised in a good decent civilized professional white-collar affluent environment.

Pedro Picasso is a wannabe rebel, a never-was rebel.

[DixieBelle]

^yes, I don't see him at the barefoot, guitar strumming type. But a lot of Du'ers have co-opted the hippie mentality.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

I'm madder and more depressed.

So...Yes you are more liberal!

[USA4ME]

sfexpat2000

Speaking of understanding, liberal democrats are the very definition of extremists

Fixed.

CaliforniaPeggy

WAY more liberal!
   
Better educated too, and more knowledgable to boot...

Being more educated and knowledgable in the ways of liberalism in such a way that it caaes you to be even more of one is hardly a virtue.

tom_paine

If hardcore Lefties/Communists did to this country what the Bushies did, I have no doubt I would be over at Free Republic, doing the same thing I am doing here now.

I watched this idiot tell some whoppers over the past few years, but this has to be one of his top lies.  The guy's a flaming hardcore Marxist despite his objections to being refered as such.

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