Beneficent sexism...ok let's get away from doors

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nadinbrzezinski (117,253 posts)

Beneficent sexism...ok let's get away from doors


 
Last edited Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:37 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)

Courtesy of NPR we have a very good, chiefly current example.

And the best part, is the reporter, male, admitted he's never ask these questions to male service members.

They are doing a series on women in the service next week. So what were the questions he'd never ask a male service member?

How do you balance home life with life in the military? I mean men go to war, that's that.

Oh and my favorite part, and that was more of a statement. A woman with a thousand mile stare due to PTSD makes the American people uncomfortable.

Now ladies and gents, that is beneficent sexism.

He also interviewed the father of a fallen service member, she was killed in a suicide attack. Dad really never realized the danger his daughter was in, and his role was to protect her. My apologies to dad if he even reads this, but that attitude is socially acceptable and a perfect example.


We like to protect women, and the message is, perhaps it's making us uncomfortable since women, delicate flowers that they are....

Then there are the recent crop of adds going after the image of women in the 1950s, poka dots dresses included...that is before any of these discussions. These adds are anywhere from sheer objectification to beneficent sexism and putting women on a pedestal.

This is the discussion we should be having, and how to counter the constant messaging.
As to doors, the reason why it is a meh issue any longer is because women did the role reversal over a generation ago (took control of it) and now open doors like everybody else.

I will leave it at that.

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zappaman (7,564 posts)
1. "thousand mile stair"

That's a lot of stairs!
I sometimes walk up the Santa Monica stairs a couple of times and wow!
It's exhausting!
I cannot imagine how tiring it would be to walk 1000 miles of stairs.

She edited it, thanks to Zappaman for catching it. 

nadinbrzezinski (117,253 posts)
3. Since I have even shot at...it is part of the job...it's a risk

Last edited Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

And the bullet does not care.

Most people who I personally know who have served really don't give a hoot who's besides you, as long as they can do the job.

In some ways the debate, like LGBT personnel, is much hotter...no pun, outside the service.

Now in the service sexual assault against both men and women is a serious issue speaking not so much of sexism, but utter denial by the leadership that believes, wrongly, that the core values somehow make the services morally superior, hence deny this happens. That incidentally is a slightly different kettle of beans.

Oh and perhaps you missed the OP. the whole NPR piece was dripping with it.

LadyHawkAZ (3,472 posts)
10. The one that's always gotten on my nerves is

listening to fathers of tween girls making jokes about greeting her future dates with a shotgun. This has never, ever happened in reverse.

Or making objects in a separate pink line, because all chicks dig pink yanno, and we're incapable of using a hammer if it isn't a pretty color.

The doors issue (and for that matter the helping a stranded motorist change a flat issue) has always been a ridiculous example, because it's indistinguishable from common politeness. There are plenty of better examples.

 

[Freeper]

Dammit wrong forum. I'm sorry mods please move.

[Dori]

How many threads do they have on this now?  Idiots.   

You many have to have a seperate forum here, one just for the feminist DUmpetts.

[jtyangel]

they have such big honking chips on their shoulders...did it ever occur to the narrow minded LadyHawk that some women actually LIKE pink? I know how this goes though--if some women actually relish in their femininity it irritates them and they attack that same woman for daring to behave like a 'stereotypical woman' not understanding that if they really believed women should not be stereotyped then they would understand that there is individuality in every women that would include the ladies who like the color pink and being feminine. What they don't get is that by making fun of these things themselves or excluding feminine women in some way, they are being just as rigid in their own stereotypes and ideas of what a woman should be and just as, if not more, discriminatory then that which they rail against. DUMB DUMB DUMB.

I'll leave the pink hammer jokes to someone else. Sometimes the dummies don't even see the funny they make in these things.

[Tess Anderson]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022523026

Must not be as good a reporter as she is:

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:32 PM

 nadinbrzezinski (117,264 posts)

Beneficent sexism...ok let's get away from doors

Last edited Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:37 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)

 Courtesy of NPR we have a very good, chiefly current example.

And the best part, is the reporter, male, admitted he's never ask these questions to male service members.
 
They are doing a series on women in the service next week. So what were the questions he'd never ask a male service member?
 
How do you balance home life with life in the military? I mean men go to war, that's that.
 
Oh and my favorite part, and that was more of a statement. A woman with a thousand mile stair due to PTSD makes the American people uncomfortable.
 
Now ladies and gents, that is beneficent sexism.

He also interviewed the father of a fallen service member, she was killed in a suicide attack. Dad really never realized the danger his daughter was in, and his role was to protect her. My apologies to dad if he even reads this, but that attitude is socially acceptable and a perfect example.
 

We like to protect women, and the message is, perhaps it's making us uncomfortable since women, delicate flowers that they are....
 
Then there are the recent crop of adds going after the image of women in the 1950s, poka dots dresses included...that is before any of these discussions. These adds are anywhere from sheer objectification to beneficent sexism and putting women on a pedestal.
 
This is the discussion we should be having, and how to counter the constant messaging.
 As to doors, the reason why it is a meh issue any longer is because women did the role reversal over a generation ago (took control of it) and now open doors like everybody else.
 
I will leave it at that.

then:

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:36 PM

 zappaman (7,565 posts)

1. "thousand mile stair"

That's a lot of stairs!
I sometimes walk up the Santa Monica stairs a couple of times and wow!
It's exhausting!
I cannot imagine how tiring it would be to walk 1000 miles of stairs.

I think she edited it again. Remember, she's been shot at:

Response to treestar (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:45 PM

 nadinbrzezinski (117,264 posts)

3. Since I have even shot at...it is part of the job...it's a risk


Last edited Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

And the bullet does not care.

Most people who I personally know who have served really don't give a hoot who's besides you, as long as they can do the job.
 
In some ways the debate, like LGBT personnel, is much hotter...no pun, outside the service.
 
Now in the service sexual assault against both men and women is a serious issue speaking not so much of sexism, but utter denial by the leadership that believes, wrongly, that the core values somehow make the services morally superior, hence deny this happens. That incidentally is a slightly different kettle of beans.
 
Oh and perhaps you missed the OP. the whole NPR piece was dripping with it.