Dennis the menace shops for pity

[Skul]

Mental illness is real. The last place in the world I would look for advice...would be the DUmp.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022212134

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:54 AM
 Denninmi (4,984 posts)

I deeply regret ever having sought mental health treatment.
Last edited Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:56 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

I bet I'm not alone in feeling this way.

>Big snippage here. <

Response to Denninmi (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:58 AM
LittleBlue (1,984 posts)
1. Could you explain precisely what ruined you?

I don't understand why you're now ruined.  

Easy, going to the DUmp for advice.

Response to Denninmi (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:59 AM
 tblue (12,733 posts)
2. Tell me more.

NO!! Please don't.

Response to Denninmi (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:07 AM
JohnnyLib2 (9,346 posts)
6. Sometimes, you gotta outlive and outsmart the fools.
And I'm betting you can and will.

I'm betting you better have your s**t together,

Response to Denninmi (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:08 AM
 BainsBane (2,865 posts)
7. Denninmi

I suggest you repost this in the support group. I don't think you want general comments about this. They are unlikely to be helpful.  

What, and miss out on all the well deserved attention?  No way, Jose.

Response to retrogal (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:23 AM
retrogal (27 posts)
12. We need to worry about...
... the ones that need treatment but will not seek it.

This one is toooo easy. Not gonna mess with it.

[franksolich]

Oh now, why did you snip his original comment?

Denninmi (4,984 posts)    Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:54 AM

I deeply regret ever having sought mental health treatment.

I bet I'm not alone in feeling this way.

I thought I was doing " the right thing" last summer when I went to a psychiatrist to try to get some help for my extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and depression. August 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm, on my lunch break, sitting in my car parked on the edge of the lot of the office building where I work, under the overhanging branches of a linden so I could be in the shade. I made the phone call that has forever ****ed up my life beyond any hope of repair. I won't ever forget that moment.
 
I thought I would be able to find some relief from the problems that were causing me so much distress. Instead, I have learned a lot from this, even though it has been a lesson in what not to do.
 
The psychiatric treatment system - what a joke. And I had "the best" available in my state, private pay/insurance. I went to a doctor who proved to be an incompetent nightmare. I got myself stuck in a day hospital program which did help somewhat - it helped undo some of the damage done to my fragile psyche by a cold, cruel physician who treated me like a criminal and traumatized me as much, if not more, than my buddy "death threat guy" whose threats to me in the course of just trying to do my job were what really pushed me over the edge.
 
I was trying to pull myself out of the quicksand and making some progress, feeling better about things. I "came out" to DU on the morning of 12/14 and was heartened by the outpouring of understanding and support. I thought, hey, things are going to be ok.
 
Little did I know that a heinous crime 600 miles away in CT would make all hell break loose for anyone in my position. Since then, it's been open season in the mentally ill.
 
Now, I have this permanent black mark on my name, bipolar/PTSD and the state is preparing to use this information against me and everyone like me. NY passed a law which turns mental health professionals into informants and patients into registered members of a class that includes felons, rapists, pedophiles. No one really knows where this information will lead.
 
Michigan has a rabid teabagger legislature that will no doubt write and enact similar legislation within months. I bet by April or May we have the same law here. Because, you know, guns are more important than "mental defectives" such as myself. Throw "those people" under the bus, who cares, "we aren't like them, those scary outsiders. They are other." That's the attitude.
 
Where does all of this leave me? Hopeless, broken, frightened out of my mind. Stigmatized, public enemy number one in the eyes of more than a few, even here on so-called "enlightened" DU. Dehumanized. No future.
 
If I knew then what I know now, I never would have made that phone call. Seeking psychiatric care has ruined me. If you don't think laws like NY will make thousands of people refuse to seek treatment for fear of being stuck with a permanent scarlet letter ....
 
Thanks for all of that. I guess I can't speak for anyone but myself. I should have just tried to "tough it out" no matter where that took me. Because anything is better than this living hell.

[franksolich]

By the way, I'm fascinated by the reference to a "linden tree"

Most people would just say "tree."

One wonders the psychological significance of that distinction.

[Carl]

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[Traveshamockery]

 

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[Traveshamockery]

Is this the same DUmmie who is afraid of the parking garage at Macy's?

 

[franksolich]

Is this the same DUmmie who is afraid of the parking garage at Macy's?

 

Yeah.

I feel for the guy, but he's making his own misery.

I really wish my fellow alum Skins would've paid attention to my g-mail to him the other day.

[franksolich]

By the way, in case anyone missed it--and I do believe it's an important issue--the g-mail sent to my fellow alum Skins the other day; there's a jpg image of it somewhere here in the DUmpster showing yes, it was actually sent, but I don't want to deal with photobucket at the moment.

MEMORANDUM

to: Skinner, CEO, democraticunderground
from: franksolich, your good friend
date: January 13, 2013
re: an issue of Great Concern

Hi, old buddy, old pal, old friend! How’s it hanging?

It’s been colder than blazes out here in the Sandhills of Nebraska; I hope your clime back east has been warmer. The way we are, Svalbaard might as well be Miami Beach.

Anyway.

There’s been a recrudescence of an old concern, which might or might not pose potential legal problems for democraticunderground. I dunno; I’m not an attorney, and you’ve had tons more experience running message-boards than I have, but I think it’s a valid concern that you should consider.

As with the general population as a whole, your real-estate has some nuts running around, who really shouldn’t be. Usually they identify themselves as mentally-ill, but some resist doing so, although their conditions are, uh, rather obvious.

And as with the general population as whole, your real-estate has some bad apples running around, predators always eager to take advantage of the vulnerabilities of other members.

The odds look pretty good that one of these days, something bad’s going to happen when a mentally-ill member of democraticunderground gets taken to the cleaners--or worse--by a predatory member of your site.

And given the litigious nature of most who habituate your real-estate, somebody’s going to try suing you, because it was on your real-estate that they first met, leading up to this unfortunate happening, whatever it is that happens.

I dunno if they’d have a case or not, but suspect it would be an irritant, a nuisance, dealing with it, an irritant and nuisance you don’t deserve.

To forestall this, I suggest you put all posts and comments by the self-identified mentally-ill members on “administrative hold,” until you or Elad could determine whether or not it’s in the best interests of that member to have what’s said, said.

As for the mentally-ill members who refuse to be honest about themselves, well, you and Elad have been around; neither of you are psychologists or psychiatrists, but I’m confident you’d know a nut when you see one. I’d put their posts and comments on “administrative hold” too, until you or Elad decide whether it should appear, or be deep-sixed.

With all my very good wishes, and be warm,
Your best friend, franksolich.

[Big Dog]

By the way, I'm fascinated by the reference to a "linden tree"

Most people would just say "tree."

One wonders the psychological significance of that distinction.

I suspect Dennis the Menace to Society is contemplating attempting suicide under that tree. Probably in his car, probably an overdose of his psychotropic medications. Probably unsuccessful, because he'll call someone he knows immediately after eating the pills.

In fact, I suspect all of this DU drama is his way of getting attention.

****ing drama queen.

[Karin]

If you don't think laws like NY will make thousands of people refuse to seek treatment for fear of being stuck with a permanent scarlet letter ....

I think he's right on this.  Even non violent types of mild mental quirks, like too much handwashing, occasional depression, stuff like that, will be swept under the rug.  Serious problems will be, too.  Who knows when someone will snap?  Families will stay silent about Strange Earl, for fear of having the household's guns confiscated. 

The reason laws should take a long time to pass, is to give time to ponder unintended consequences, and to gain the consent of the governed.  Quaint idea, isn't it? 

[BlueStateSaint]

I think he's right on this.  Even non violent types of mild mental quirks, like too much handwashing, occasional depression, stuff like that, will be swept under the rug.  Serious problems will be, too.  Who knows when someone will snap?  Families will stay silent about Strange Earl, for fear of having the household's guns confiscated. 

The reason laws should take a long time to pass, is to give time to ponder unintended consequences, and to gain the consent of the governed.  Quaint idea, isn't it? 

Talk about 'unintended consequences' . . .

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cuomo_blue_it_C0bt5gF3sKW9btYWe5p0VN

[Karin]

The headline:

Cuomo ‘blue’ it!
Rush job makes cops’ guns illegal

 

DUmbasses.  My senator voted against it, BSS.  But, my DUmmie dingbat assemblywoman voted for it.  What did yours do? 

[GOBUCKS]

"Unter den Linden" is a famous thorofare in Berlin, mentioned in German songs and poetry. It could be another bit of the lunatic's drama queenery.

If he's going to hang himself from the linden, that's fine, but let's hope he waits until later in the year.

His depressive cycles are funny, but his manic phases are hilarious.

[Mike220]

Talk about 'unintended consequences' . . .

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cuomo_blue_it_C0bt5gF3sKW9btYWe5p0VN

“Gun reform must prevent criminals and the deranged from getting illegal weapons, not restrict law-abiding retired cops from protecting themselves and the public,” said Michael Palladino, president of the New York State Association of PBAs and also head of the city’s Detectives Endowment Association.

And what about the law abiding citizen, huh? What ever happened to equal protection before the law?

[wasp69]

Denninmi (4,984 posts)    Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:54 AM

I deeply regret ever having sought mental health treatment.

I bet I'm not alone in feeling this way.

Where does all of this leave me? Hopeless, broken, frightened out of my mind. Stigmatized, public enemy number one in the eyes of more than a few, even here on so-called "enlightened" DU. Dehumanized. No future.
 
Thanks for all of that. I guess I can't speak for anyone but myself. I should have just tried to "tough it out" no matter where that took me. Because anything is better than this living hell.

I am sick of this whiny weakling and his enablers.  Yeah, DUmmie Denni, my rights to self defense utterly and completely trump your emotional baggage.  You have committed some type of act (many here suspect you are a pedophile) that put you into some type of mandatory treatment.  You're not getting any better because you can't get past the fact your "treatment" didn't happen the way you wanted it to happen.  You're an overgrown child, a mental cripple, and I am sick of having to deal with spoiled, whiny bitches who are sucking up resources that could be used by someone who is truly in need.

I'd tell you to end your life in the most spectacular way possible, but I think you'd probably **** that up, too.

[GOBUCKS]

Pull out that credit card, DUmmy Denny!

A big shopping spree will make things all better.

[vesta111]

And what about the law abiding citizen, huh? What ever happened to equal protection before the law?

Problem here is unless a person has a record how does one know if they are nuts ????    Just because they have not been caught breaking the law does not mean they are law abiding.

Read the paper, once or twice in ones life will you find someone you know that comits suicide.   Friends, family and coworkers are stunned.   A shock to those that thought they knew them best or well.   Good family, nice job, great kids and they out of the blue off themselves.  

The Beetles song " the day in the life of a man," kind of shows how  complicated this thing is.  

Here we have a very disturbed person that is SCREAMING out for help.   Very angry at the world and needs immediate help, not just for Him but for anyone that gets in his way.  

It is not often one runs into someone that has a death wish and you know it.   Frank is correct this poor man needs to be stopped before he may harm others.    

DU knows the identity of this man and needs to alert authorities about him.   Time Bomb just a ticking away.  

[Chris_]

Little did I know that a heinous crime 600 miles away in CT would make all hell break loose for anyone in my position. Since then, it's been open season in the mentally ill.

The only law that needs to be passed is to make it easier to have crazies like Adam Lanza and Jared Loughner locked away.  No amount of "gun control" will ever keep guns away from criminals determined to get them.

Making gang membership illegal would be a step in the right direction... it's not like they're civic organizations or anything.

[BlueStateSaint]

Pull out that credit card, DUmmy Denny!

A big shopping spree will makes things all better.

They're probably all maxed out, and said DUmb**** is unable to get any more.

[wasp69]

Making gang membership illegal would be a step in the right direction... it's not like they're civic organizations or anything.

I would prefer they be given the same legal consideration as pirates (hostis humani generis {enemies of humanity}) and be shot on sight.

[GOBUCKS]

I would prefer they be given the same legal consideration as pirates (hostis humani generis {enemies of humanity}) and be shot on sight.

They already shoot one another on sight.

That's more efficient than depending on law enforcement.

[wasp69]

They already shoot one another on sight.

That's more efficient than depending on law enforcement.

Who said I was depending on law enforcement?

[vesta111]

The only law that needs to be passed is to make it easier to have crazies like Adam Lanza and Jared Loughner locked away.  No amount of "gun control" will ever keep guns away from criminals determined to get them.

Making gang membership illegal would be a step in the right direction... it's not like they're civic organizations or anything.

Back up Chris, the right to associate with others unless the Courts find a good reason to prevent felons from hanging out together is part of our bill of rights.  Ask any member of a White Lodge that can exclude any race or religion from joining.

We have motorcycle clubs that most of the year deal in drugs but are the first to come out on a toys for tots drive, drive together when a fallen vet is buried to protect the family from the  WBC.

Gang membership cannot be controlled by our own laws. Then the question of just what is a gang comes up. 

Do I panic when I run into a Yale graduate wearing a school tie ????  There are clubs and there are gangs, sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference.

[Chris_]

Back up Chris, the right to associate with others unless the Courts find a good reason to prevent felons from hanging out together is part of our bill of rights.  Ask any member of a White Lodge that can exclude any race or religion from joining.

Street gangs are criminal organizations and should be prosecuted under those laws. 

[vesta111]

Street gangs are criminal organizations and should be prosecuted under those laws. 

Unfortunately our biggest gangsters in organized crime were taken down not for their crimes but the IRS got them. 

 Any way one looks at it, the white collar educated Wall Street gangsters are much more dangerous then 6 street punks.