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new sonnabend thread
« on: June 04, 2008, 06:26:48 PM »
You know, it's probably not nice to talk about people who can't respond back, but sometimes one is compelled to say something about someone.

The only joy I get out of talking about someone who can't reply back is in the case of Pedro "Beach Boy" Picasso, who has been angrily frustrated in the past, because my fellow alum Skins won't allow franksolich to be mentioned on Skins's island.  (I have no idea why, but there it is.)

Anyway, this is about sonnabend.

Up until recently, I had nothing but the highest esteem and respect for sonnabend, a true and honest gentleman in every way, but damn, he has been perplexful the past three months.

When our old home started falling into ruin and disarray, everybody was faced with a choice; to stick around in hopes some repairs might be done, or to go find a new home.  As one can see from the membership list in order of seniority, franksolich himself wavered and waffled greatly before coming over here.

Over here was new, with only a few familiar faces, and so one was taking a gamble coming here.

My predicament was the same as that faced by sonnabend.

I cannot figure sonnabend out.

Both of us had three choices: (a) stick with the old home; (b) abandon the old home and find a new home; or (c) find a new home, but go back to visit the old home once in a while.

Now, franksolich was predisposed towards (c), given that franksolich had never had a bad experience in the old home (but it alas was obvious a new home was needed).

Given the way the other gentleman was treated, with slurs against him, slurs against the Australian people, slurs against Australia in general, one would think the logical choice for sonnabend would have been (b).

Well, now we have the situation where franksolich, who never felt an iota of ill-will at the old home, is at (b), and sonnabend, who endured much ill-will at the old home, is at (a). 

It just doesn't make sense.

Why put up with the company of ruffians who use, abuse, misuse, one, when one has a chance instead to hob-nob with high-class people?

Damn.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 06:40:01 PM »
Some people simply want attention....positive or negative, it does not matter to them...makes them feel all special.

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 06:44:38 PM »
Some people simply want attention....positive or negative, it does not matter to them...makes them feel all special.
Which explains why TNO hangs around here.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 06:44:40 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 06:51:12 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 06:51:45 PM »
Well, this "bastard" has wiped his hands clean of Sonna. I'm done trying to defend him, even though I went to CU as FormerSGT and did just that after I was insulted by him.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 07:22:03 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

Perhaps.

Hey, thinking on your special title... do you like "Libruls, the other white meat"? Keeping with the cannibalism theme in the DW thread.  :yum:
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 07:25:38 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

Perhaps.

Hey, thinking on your special title... do you like "Libruls, the other white meat"? Keeping with the cannibalism theme in the DW thread.  :yum:

No I want something cool like "cracka man".

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 08:19:41 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

Perhaps.

Hey, thinking on your special title... do you like "Libruls, the other white meat"? Keeping with the cannibalism theme in the DW thread.  :yum:

No I want something cool like "cracka man".

Once you go cracka, you never go backa?

Let's take this to the lounge... lest we get accused of spoiling another Sonna thread.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 07:01:46 AM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

Perhaps.

Hey, thinking on your special title... do you like "Libruls, the other white meat"? Keeping with the cannibalism theme in the DW thread.  :yum:

No I want something cool like "cracka man".

Once you go cracka, you never go backa?

Let's take this to the lounge... lest we get accused of spoiling another Sonna thread.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 01:51:37 PM »
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 02:08:41 PM »
Interesting thread, and an issue I diden't realize.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 02:19:16 PM »
Well, this "bastard" has wiped his hands clean of Sonna. I'm done trying to defend him, even though I went to CU as FormerSGT and did just that after I was insulted by him.

Although I missed the exchanges to which you refer, I agree with you.  That said, I will miss Sonna, as I always enjoy reading his comments from the Aussie prospective.  Kinda like Bijou, I appreciate reading the opinions of folks from other countries in order to prevent me from becoming too "sheltered" in my consideration of political issues.

Its a shame......

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 03:10:25 PM »
Although I missed the exchanges to which you refer, I agree with you.  That said, I will miss Sonna, as I always enjoy reading his comments from the Aussie prospective.  Kinda like Bijou, I appreciate reading the opinions of folks from other countries in order to prevent me from becoming too "sheltered" in my consideration of political issues.

Its a shame......

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Well, we got LC EFA, who lives along the ocean in northeastern Australia, who's really good.

Damned good member, and we're happy to have him here.

And bijou, of course.

I think I'll recruit from the Norway ping list on freerepublic; I know I said I was going to, but never got around to it.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 03:14:36 PM »
Well, we got LC EFA, who lives along the ocean in northeastern Australia, who's really good.

Damned good member, and we're happy to have him here.

And bijou, of course.

I think I'll recruit from the Norway ping list on freerepublic; I know I said I was going to, but never got around to it.

Northeast Australia is equivalent to the Southeast United States, from what he's told me.  :-)
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2008, 03:17:37 PM »
Northeast Australia is equivalent to the Southeast United States, from what he's told me.  :-)

The climate and all that, but peoplewise, it's like Nebraska; big area, not many people around.

But like both the southeast U.S. and Nebraska, people in that part of Australia are reputed to be laid-back and mellow.
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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 03:25:48 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 03:58:51 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

They have battered women now?!  Dammit .... I'm still eatin' mine raw!    :-)

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 03:09:45 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2008, 07:49:14 PM »
Some people simply want attention....positive or negative, it does not matter to them...makes them feel all special.
Which explains why TNO hangs around here.


I love having TNO here. It's like the situation when you see a severely retarded person and right or wrong, think to yourself "Shit! I sure am glad I am not like them!"
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2008, 07:58:48 PM »
I love having TNO here. It's like the situation when you see a severely retarded person and right or wrong, think to yourself "Shit! I sure am glad I am not like them!"

TNO does serve a purpose.

I have mixed feelings about the nocturnally foul one, but generally he enjoys a 50.0000001% "approval rating" from me--and not to mention he abides by the rules about not slamming servicemen, and not harassing other members, and so it's all copacetic, all okay.

At first, the nocturnally foul one irritated me, always demanding "links" to generally-known and generally-accepted facts.

I got to where I was even afraid to state, "the earth is round" or "the moon is in the sky," lest the nocturnally foul one pop up, demanding, "link, please."

Then I started ignoring him.

After a while, I got back to paying minor attention to him, and much to my surprise, I had developed a sort of mild affection for the nocturnally foul one.

Now that he's some times over in our old home conversing and bantering with his old pal the buzzy one, I've actually gotten to where I resent his not hanging around here.

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2008, 10:35:41 PM »
Sonnabend is a deeply loyal guy, who feels guilty about playing on this site because it is like abandoning an old friend who is in trouble.  He attributes the abuse he gets to Gator and his core group of protected fave shit-stirrers, not the site as a whole.  I understand where he is coming from, since I also hold loyalty as a higher value than most, but I reached my limit with TOS.  Not that this site or any other site is perfect, even the best have their share of autocratic dicks (or dickettes) who want to dictate thought content and values to everyone else (The whole 'Moral clarity' bullshit, for instance), but the aggravation at TOS just got to the point that it clearly exceeded the positive value for me.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 10:41:25 PM »
Sonnabend is a deeply loyal guy, who feels guilty about playing on this site because it is like abandoning an old friend who is in trouble.  He attributes the abuse he gets to Gator and his core group of protected fave shit-stirrers, not the site as a whole.  I understand where he is coming from, since I also hold loyalty as a higher value than most, but I reached my limit with TOS.  Not that this site or any other site is perfect, even the best have their share of autocratic dicks (or dickettes) who want to dictate thought content and values to everyone else (The whole 'Moral clarity' bullshit, for instance), but the aggravation at TOS just got to the point that it clearly exceeded the positive value for me.

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2008, 05:02:32 PM »
Sonnabend is a deeply loyal guy, who feels guilty about playing on this site because it is like abandoning an old friend who is in trouble.  He attributes the abuse he gets to Gator and his core group of protected fave shit-stirrers, not the site as a whole.  I understand where he is coming from, since I also hold loyalty as a higher value than most, but I reached my limit with TOS.  Not that this site or any other site is perfect, even the best have their share of autocratic dicks (or dickettes) who want to dictate thought content and values to everyone else (The whole 'Moral clarity' bullshit, for instance), but the aggravation at TOS just got to the point that it clearly exceeded the positive value for me.

Pretty darn eloquent for a 19 Series!  :tongue:

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Re: new sonnabend thread
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2008, 05:07:59 PM »
I don't understand it Frank. As many know, especially BEG, jty and WE (my closest real life friends), I have principles and I am not the type of person who would ever compromise those principles. Like you, I have chosen option (b).

But this is not about me, it's about Sonna. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he could never reconcile the two sites and he felt as though he would have greater self-worth if he was an exclusive and high ranking member of CU.

Or he has battered woman syndrome.   :-)

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