Internet laughing stock (stinkdude) nervous about being tracked

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022054354

Stinky The Clown (48,967 posts)

All this new-found interest in the "mentally ill" is kind of unsettling to me.
  
 The discussion has gotten (re?)started for reasons rooted in issues that have no direct connection to mental illness. In many ways, the whole discussion is a deflection from the issue of guns.

I am one who is directly affected by mental illness to no greater degree than anyone else. A depressed friend, a child who learns a bit differently than most people (but who finished school in the top 10% of his peers), an associate with general anxiety, that sort of thing. Most of the people I know with "mental" issues, are fully functional, normal, mainstream people who, unless you know them well, function normally.

No one is tracking them.

But now there are groups out there calling vaguely for the tracking of people with mental illness.

To those calling for that, STOP IT. Stop it RIGHT NOW. Get a grip.

Who do you think you'll be tracking?

It seems to me a person with depression severe enough to cause them some social difficulties is not a good candidate to own a gun. Not for any danger to others, but because of the danger that person would pose to self. Are you calling for the tracking of that person?

How about the bulimic kid? Put them on a list?

How about the introverts who spend a lot of time, alone, playing computer games? That gets kinda close to the current scare being fomented by people who really know little about mental illness. That kid may not even have a mental illness. But he stays in his room and has less social contact than some of his peers so he must be mentally ill. Right? Right?

Can you imagine, as I can, this whole notion of "tracking the mentally ill" running amok? Even if not one single law, rule, or regulation comes of it, the mentally ill can suffer real harm. Shunning by "good" people in "good" society. Harmful discrimination from the knuckle dragging community.

A new scapegoat. After all, Muslim has been so done already. Time for the next target of our fears and hatreds.

No. Not again.

Back away from the idea.

Or . . .

Since this all came about because of a GUN incident, let's apply some rational limits to the idea. How about nobody gets a gun unless they can pass a mental examination? Would Wayne LaPierre pass such a test?

But wait. There's more.

Who gets to do the examination? Wayne's gun totin' pal?

No.

A board of gun examiners. Credentialed doctors, licensed, board certified, and regulated, who must examine each applicant to buy a gun. Who must examine each applicant for a CCL. If you fail to pass this, or any other, examination, THEN you get listed as unfit for gun ownership. Other reasons for being on The List could be crime related, active long term chronic alcohol or drug abuse, any other reason for which a person would be unfit to own a gun. Up to and including a demonstrated need for a gun, if you ask me.

But just "tracking the mentally ill" ought to be a non starter.

I am uncomfortable to even talk about this. The more we talk about it, the more people with a need for a target group to use for their own issues around hatred, derision, discrimination, general antisociality might find it all too easy to hate the mentally ill, "just because."

Talk about the real issue: Guns.

Discussing the real need for a broad increase in mental health services is long overdue. But getting the conversations started **within the frame of gun talk** is not a good idea. The mentally ill will not be well served.

I would say that the DUmp pretty much serves as a way to track lunatics.

Fire Walk With Me (34,458 posts)
44. Considering the source, forget the demand and regulate guns instead.

Thank you. We will not be used as a bogeyman by the powerful gun lobby which seeks to expand markets for arms dealers and manufacturers.

As I said.

[GOBUCKS]

I want to have a big red letter "L" (for "lonnie") tattooed on DUmmy Dennis the Menace's forehead.

I detest tattoos, but heartily endorse that one.

[franksolich]

I would say that the DUmp pretty much serves as a way to track lunatics.

That is s-o-o-o-o-o true.

[Airwolf]

Stink bait should have been worried the minute Carnivore and Echelon came online years ago not to mention The PAtriot Act. Those alone can be used to track Dummies or anyone else. Then agin who knows what the Government has now days they are not talking about. For all we know Skynet is just s button push away from reality.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DQsG3TKQ0I[/youtube]

[Carl]

The feeling I got reading through that thread was that most know they are deranged and don`t want treatment and normality but rather actually expect to be held in esteem for it.
What a pitiful group.

[Skul]

Psst, stinkDUde, we are tracking you.

[Randy]

The feeling I got reading through that thread was that most know they are deranged and don`t want treatment and normality but rather actually expect to be held in esteem for it.
What a pitiful group.

That pretty much sums it up.
I'm dumber than a stump, worship me. (Nadin)
I'm crazier than a shithouse rat, my opinion is better than yours. (Denny the Menace)
I'm a fart smucking feller, hold me. (Stinky)

[Duke Nukum]

Stinky The Clown (48,967 posts)

All this new-found interest in the "mentally ill" is kind of unsettling to me.
 
 The discussion has gotten (re?)started for reasons rooted in issues that have no direct connection to mental illness. In many ways, the whole discussion is a deflection from the issue of guns.

OMG! Stinky! This is why I did not vote for you. You're not even trying here.

What about mentally ill guns that saunter into a "gun-free" zone and shoot up the place on their own!

Since guns, in your mind, seem to act upon their own volition, did you ever consider that the guns whom you seem to think act in such a manner have their feeling hurt by the discrimination of not being allowed?

How would you feel, my dear Stinky, if, as you were walking down the street, you came upon an Internet Cafe and there was a sign clearly posted in the window in black letters and red boarders, "No Internet Laughing Stocks Allowed." If you were having a particularly bad day you might go all William Foster on them.

Fortunately, our society tolerates and sometimes even embraces Internet laughing stocks such as yourself, but try to empathise with these inanimate objects you discriminate against. How do they feel?

[marv]

Calling all moles, we need sombody to post a pole of favorite/best video game(s) over on DU.

[Ballygrl]

I don't know of anyone that wants to track people with anxiety or depression, but I have no problem if a person is being watched who's considered insane and a danger to society.

[franksolich]

.....I have no problem if a person is being watched who's considered insane and a danger to society.

That's why the DUmpster watches the primitives.

[Duke Nukum]

I don't know of anyone that wants to track people with anxiety or depression, but I have no problem if a person is being watched who's considered insane and a danger to society.

That is precisely why I read The DUmpster.

[98ZJUSMC]

by the powerful gun lobby which seeks to expand markets for arms dealers and manufacturers.

Who needs market expansion, when you mental defectives re-elected Americas' No. 1 Firearm Salesman.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I want to have a big red letter "L" (for "lonnie") tattooed on DUmmy Dennis the Menace's forehead.

I detest tattoos, but heartily endorse that one.

Well, if you don't like tattoos, we could always go with the branding iron.

 

[Maxiest]

This is the whole reason I watch the DUmmies.  For their contradictions.

Do they not understand, all the free stuff they get from the government just gives them less freedom and the government more tracking?

[jukin]

Leftism in the USA consists now of denying reality. In denying reality the leftists come up with solutions that only exacerbate the root problem. Solutions to the root problem are derided.  A mentally unstable college kid took his car and ran down 12-14 people about a decade ago at our local college. A month ago he got out of the kooky ranch. He will not be watched and is now ready to kill more innocents.....using a car or it could be AMFO or a knife, or bat, or a gun. Yet there is one common denominator the mentally ill young man. Heaven forbid we do anything to deal with the root cause of the problem.

We are going bankrupt and the clear answer is to cut spending but that bit of sanity in America 180 is the last of any solutions in the minds of the looney leftists.

Up is down.
War is peace.
Orwell was just 30 years ahead on his prophecies.

[Mr Mannn]

Leftism in the USA consists now of denying reality. In denying reality the leftists come up with solutions that only exacerbate the root problem. Solutions to the root problem are derided.  A mentally unstable college kid took his car and ran down 12-14 people about a decade ago at our local college. A month ago he got out of the kooky ranch. He will not be watched and is now ready to kill more innocents.....using a car or it could be AMFO or a knife, or bat, or a gun. Yet there is one common denominator the mentally ill young man. Heaven forbid we do anything to deal with the root cause of the problem.

We are going bankrupt and the clear answer is to cut spending but that bit of sanity in America 180 is the last of any solutions in the minds of the looney leftists.

Up is down.
War is peace.
Orwell was just 30 years ahead on his prophecies.

Well said. Hi5