It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....

[Freeper]

It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing because of 0bama's policies that will bankrupt them.

WCGreen (43,736 posts)

How ****ing anti-American are these right-wing douche bags that are willing to tank their companies..


 
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just because the election didn't go their way.

We sucked it up and dealt with arguably the worst administration in the last 100 years and still did what we had to do. We didn't sulk or strike, for that matter, we did what AMERICANS are supposed to do; be a loyal opposition.

To publicly say they are going to undermine their companies just because the election didn't go their was is so wrong in so many ways.

First of all, all these mini-titans of industry are violating their fiduciary responsibilities to their investors by not doing what is best for the shareholders.

Second, they are almost, almost right at that line between coercion and personal opinion by publicly saying they are going to tank their companies because of the votes taken by people that work for them.

And Third, did it cross their little ****ing right wing brains that maybe, just maybe that because of Obama care their employees will be healthier and so not have to call off work, their kids will be happier and healthier and so their parents wont have to call off work because their kids are sick.

How did these ass holes get to the top of their companies when they let petty political vendettas rule their actions instead of common sense.

That, my friends, is the god damn truth.

Get over it, douche bags...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021836395

0bama and his gang of thugs are making it so they can't afford to be in business anymore and you idiots blame the business.

CaliforniaPeggy (100,297 posts)
1. Well said, and ******* right.

RagAss (13,164 posts)
2. If the market for the product is still there...someone else will fill the hole they left.

...and hopefully hire the employees these assclowns left to die.

Good luck with that one, who is going to want to take the risk of starting up anything when the government is going to tax the living hell out of them.

WCGreen (43,736 posts)
4. Yea, but shareholders can make a case that they are violating the fiduciary responsibilities by

acting against the best interests of the company.

Yeah because the shareholders love nothing more than losing money.

liberalmuse (15,074 posts)
6. They are hurting Americans.

They'll take their money and run, and leave people without a means to support themselves until they can hopefully find another job. I hope there's karma. I want to see all the greedy people who made their money off the backs of the poor and middle class (especially you, ****ing Romney), lose it all and truly understand what it's like to be at the mercy of shitty, greedy bosses and have your benefits whisked away or watch your co-workers laid off one by one until it comes down to you so the shareholders can have more money, and CEO's can buy a 10th vacation home.

If there is karma you freeloading son's of a bitch will be wondering what on earf hit you.

PD Turk (698 posts)
11. If I'm wrong somebody please tell me

but... if we had gotten the public option, wouldn't it have helped to alleviate what these assholes are bitching about?

Who do you think will pay for that public option? The money fairy? No it would be the same businesses that are now folding because of what 0bama is doing that would be expected to pay for this, along with the evil rich. In other words the same thing would be happening.

OpenedMindGuy (3 posts)
18. My Friend Works For a Koch Bros. Subsidiary..

She says they are now making noise like they are going to shut down her plant because Obama won.She has been working over 30+hours of O.T. every week for the last 8 months. She is over worked and tired. Now she doesn't care if they fold. She wants them to close. I don't blame her. She should get severance pay and then she wants to go back to school and get retrained as a chef.

CaliforniaPeggy (100,297 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, OpenedMindGuy!

I'm glad you found us. 

And you picked an excellent thread to post in. WCGreen is a very smart man, and you can learn much from reading his posts.

 

We are doomed as a nation. They see that 0bama and his policies are destroying this country, yet they blame the people being destroyed for the mess.
Even when it does collapse they will blame the victims and still look to 0bama to save them. 

[Undies]

OpenedMindGuy (3 posts)
18. My Friend Works For a Koch Bros. Subsidiary..

She says they are now making noise like they are going to shut down her plant because Obama won.She has been working over 30+hours of O.T. every week for the last 8 months. She is over worked and tired. Now she doesn't care if they fold. She wants them to close. I don't blame her. She should get severance pay and then she wants to go back to school and get retrained as a chef.

This mole is good.  The "friend" is getting 30 hours of overtime pay (AKA getting rich off the backs of the business owners) in this economy, yet is willing to see the gravy train jump the tracks so the friend can go work at Denny's?

I love it! 

[Linda]

When DUmmies oppose President Bush it is loyal opposition. BUT When we oppose obama we are racist, ****ing anti-American right-wing douche bags, assholes, that let petty political vendettas rule our actions instead of common sense.   

WOW, fighting for our rights, freedom and the Constitution, instead of being labeled patriotic we are labeled with the above....You know it is down right scary the way those peoples minds work.

[DLR Pyro]

We sucked it up and dealt with arguably the worst administration in the last 100 years and still did what we had to do re-elected obama to a 2nd term.

Fixed for accuracy


seriously DUmmies,  If you are so worried about business closing and people being shut out of jobs, they you go ahead, take the risk and start up your own business.  Good luck dealing with the shit-ton of rules and regulations your beloved government will bestow upon you for trying to be successful, but have at it.

[BEG]

 

[JohnnyReb]

30+ hours of O.T. huh......has  DUmbasses friend ever looked at her check stub and noticed how much "The Won" is taking from her?.....and how much more it's costing the company in SS, Workers Com., state and fed unemployment?.....nawh, it's just the cost of doing business to the DUmmies.

[GOBUCKS]

Yeah, it took a lot of courage for the DUmpmonkeys to live through the Great Bush Prosperity, an era of happiness, growth, and personal wealth accumulation second only to the 20-year-long Reagan Boom.

[98ZJUSMC]

WCGreen is a very smart man

Oh......well, yeah. Playing mumbly peg with you drooling retards makes him some kind of sooper genuz.

PD Turk (698 posts)
11. If I'm wrong somebody please tell me

but... if we had gotten the public option, wouldn't it have helped to alleviate what these assholes are bitching about?

The stoopid meter just pegged so hard the needle bent.

And Third, did it cross their little ****ing right wing brains that maybe, just maybe that because of Obama care their employees will be healthier and so not have to call off work, their kids will be happier and healthier and so their parents wont have to call off work because their kids are sick.

Now, it's broken.  Thanks, idiot.

[98ZJUSMC]

30+ hours of O.T. huh......has  DUmbasses friend ever looked at her check stub and noticed how much "The Won" is taking from her?.....and how much more it's costing the company in SS, Workers Com., state and fed unemployment?.....nawh, it's just the cost of doing business to the DUmmies.

 

Nope.  No clue that Mommy Government bones you sideways on overtime.

la-la-la-la-la-la-la..................

[jukin]

RagAss (13,164 posts)
2. If the market for the product is still there...someone else will fill the hole they left.

...and hopefully hire the employees these assclowns left to die.

This is where the lack of experience that Obama and his fellow DUchebags really comes into play. Small business is niche business. When a small niche business in the USA dies there is a 90% chance that the demand for that USA business will go off shore. Our business was the only American manufacturer of a specialty industry. There were competitors in Thailand and Germany. That is where the end user demand went to.  

Someone else WILL NOT fill the hole here in the USA. Only where the market is commoditized will big American business move into fill demand. Kiss those small business and usually high paying jobs ADIOS. I will bet that by the end of the second reign of incompetence that the median wage will be down another $5000.

Another point is that many small businesses have been hanging on, sometimes not getting paid trying to get through Obamanomics. The country told them it will not be getting better and these very hard working people are throwing in the towel. It just is not worth it. I hit that point in 2005 in kalifornia. The rest of the USA is meeting this in 2012.  

[I_B_Perky]

As usual, the dummies blame everyone and everything under the sun except the ones responsible.

Hey dummies? We told you and told you and told you what was gonna happen. You didn't listen and this is what you get. You own it dummies.

[Randy]

I saw some guy, can't remember who. That was being interviewed about competitors taking over the factories and rehiring the laid off Hostess workers. He said they had to much capacity already and IF they were to get any of the brandnames all they'd do is crank up their idled equipment and call back some of their laid off workers. No one really has a need for the idled factories or anything but the names.

[miskie]

This mole is good.  The "friend" is getting 30 hours of overtime pay (AKA getting rich off the backs of the business owners) in this economy, yet is willing to see the gravy train jump the tracks so the friend can go work at Denny's?

I love it! 

Did you notice how much OMG looks like OMC ? I didn't...   

[NHSparky]

And Third, did it cross their little ****ing right wing brains that maybe, just maybe that because of Obama care their employees will be healthier and so not have to call off work, their kids will be happier and healthier and so their parents wont have to call off work because their kids are sick.

And what the DUmmies don't realize is that a lot of companies are going to be saying, "**** it" and paying the fine and simply leaving their workers to fend for themselves, and guess what, DUmmies?  You think those companies are gonna say, "Here's X dollars for you to go out in the market and find something?"

Yeah, me either.  You own this, but we're all gonna suffer as a result.

[Mr Mannn]

I really don't see where the DUmmies are getting all bent outa shape over this.

Business is evil, right. So private industry closings are good.
After all, Obama is going to get us all govt jobs...isn't that right? Socialism will take over where corporations leave off. The One is right there, ready to fix it all.
 

[shadeaux]

WCGreen is a very smart man, and you can learn much from reading his posts.

He even looks smart.   

 

#111

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x5409825

[USA4ME]

Tell ya what, WCGreen primitive.  Why don't you and your fellow idiot primitives step up to the plate, start a company, and fill in the void these businesses are supposedly leaving?  Think any of you can get up off your lazy butt and do that?  Or are you just going to sit there and complain?  Hmmmm, let me guess...

WCGreen primitive, as soon as I see you opening a company and hiring employees then you might grab my attention.  In the meanwhile, you aren't worthy to open your stupid mouth and say anymore about it.  Got it?  I doubt that either.

.

[Tucker]

I read this on a FB post.

DUmmies bitching about executive compensation being increased.

Brian Driscoll, CEO, from around $750,000 to $2,550,000
Gary Wandscheider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000
John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000
David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256
Richard Seban, EVP, $375,00o to $656,256
John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000
Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000
Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 t0 $273,008

And this reply.

your list of executive compensation comes to a total of $7,591,776. Now, lets be generous and say the average employee was pulling in salary (no benefits included) of 40,000 a year. That comes to 740 million, or about 100 times more than it costs them to pay those executives. Now, let's add on to that benefits costs. We'll be really generous here, and say 15,000 a year per employee. That's another 277.5 million. So, total cost of executive pay is about 7.5 million. Total cost of employee pay would be about 1 billion. With revenue totals of about 2.5 billion, that means employee compensation eats about 40% of those revenues while executive compensation eats about .3% of those revenues. Tell me again how it's the executive pay's fault?

[wasp69]

You know, DUmmies, I know that you think your boy won some kind of golden ticket to **** all of us over in your name and we were all suppposed to take it like good little serfs.  Yep, we were supposed to bow to obingas super smartness and just hand the nearest moocher our wallet. 

But it didn't happen that way, did it?  Instead, the business owners reacted the exact way you were warned they would.  We told you, the business owners told you, if you reelect obinga the job killer then they would be forced to scale back.  They told you that they held back for the first four years on hiring because it was so risky with democrats in power.  None of you listened, not one.

Now you want to whine and bitch that someone else is to blame for your selfishness?  Somebody else is responsible for your failure?  Nobody is buying it, moochtards.  Your pathetic leper messiah has nobody to blame this time and neither do you.  Honestly, I am starting to be a bit glad that obinga and bitch boy Harry the Mormon are still in charge - kinda... 

Bottom line, Dummies?  You moochtards



I hate to see Americans hurt, I hate to see this land suffer but some pain has to be felt before people finally get the message - democrats don't give a damn about anyone and liberalism is a mental disorder.

[BlueStateSaint]

You know, DUmmies, I know that you think your boy won some kind of golden ticket to **** all of us over in your name and we were all suppposed to take it like good little serfs.  Yep, we were supposed to bow to obingas super smartness and just hand the nearest moocher our wallet. 

But it didn't happen that way, did it?  Instead, the business owners reacted the exact way you were warned they would.  We told you, the business owners told you, if you reelect obinga the job killer then they would be forced to scale back.  They told you that they held back for the first four years on hiring because it was so risky with democrats in power.  None of you listened, not one.

Now you want to whine and bitch that someone else is to blame for your selfishness?  Somebody else is responsible for your failure?  Nobody is buying it, moochtards.  Your pathetic leper messiah has nobody to blame this time and neither do you.  Honestly, I am starting to be a bit glad that obinga and bitch boy Harry the Mormon are still in charge - kinda... 

Bottom line, Dummies?  You moochtards



I hate to see Americans hurt, I hate to see this land suffer but some pain has to be felt before people finally get the message - democrats don't give a damn about anyone and liberalism is a mental disorder.

Awesome, sir.  H5.

[jtyangel]

You know, this attitude is precisely why I have little faith in the American public. Although I think it probably is confined largely to idiots like those at DU, I think via the MSM their blame game attitudes spread like poison to the 'low information voter'.Look how foolish women latched on to the war on women despite the vulgar references to their lady parts OR the fact that read any health care plan and comparing apples to oranges things like male sterilzation is covered many times at half the rate of what female sterilization is and most bc methods are actually 100% covered in many plans. Yet women latched onto the viagra thing and the war on women and don't believe their own lying eyes and their refusal to compare apples to oranges. A couple minutes of research would have dispelled the stupidity being thrown around and one on one conversations with friends could have easily pointed out that all that was wanted was an exemption via the first amendment for religious organizations and that, along with a couple step on the dick comments, started the whole war on women things.

 Really, for conservatives, our goal should be long term. It's high time we started getting back into academia and journalism to right this wrong. I think it's the only way to lay claim to a cultural shift of our own. I personally see many  young people who seem far more conservative then prior generations, but I think for their effectiveness to be felt, unfortunately many boomers are going to have to age out of the game and probably even a lot of Xers too. I don't think it's lost, but I think it's going to be a couple generations out until the kids behind can SEE the results and we raise a generation more thoughtful and introspective then the last.

I guess what I'm saying is I don't think you can teach an old dog new tricks and us oldish dogs probably will have to check out someday before things change.

[Rufus2010]

WCGreen (43,736 posts)

How ****ing anti-American are these right-wing douche bags that are willing to tank their companies..


 
Last edited Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:11 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

just because the election didn't go their way.

We sucked it up and dealt with arguably the worst administration in the last 100 years and still did what we had to do. We didn't sulk or strike, for that matter, we did what AMERICANS are supposed to do; be a loyal opposition.

To publicly say they are going to undermine their companies just because the election didn't go their was is so wrong in so many ways.

First of all, all these mini-titans of industry are violating their fiduciary responsibilities to their investors by not doing what is best for the shareholders.

Second, they are almost, almost right at that line between coercion and personal opinion by publicly saying they are going to tank their companies because of the votes taken by people that work for them.

And Third, did it cross their little ****ing right wing brains that maybe, just maybe that because of Obama care their employees will be healthier and so not have to call off work, their kids will be happier and healthier and so their parents wont have to call off work because their kids are sick.

How did these ass holes get to the top of their companies when they let petty political vendettas rule their actions instead of common sense.

That, my friends, is the god damn truth.

Get over it, douche bags...

CaliforniaPeggy (100,297 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, OpenedMindGuy!

I'm glad you found us.

And you picked an excellent thread to post in. WCGreen is a very smart man, and you can learn much from reading his posts.

He's about as smart as my dick, Piggy. Sorry to crash your fantasy...

[NHSparky]

So basically, 51 percent of the American voting public is stuck on stupid.  Color me shocked.

And DUmmies--businesses close because of Obamacare, but that's the right's fault?  Do tell, I'm fascinated how you made that leap.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Businessmen are bringing you the news, WCGreen, and all you can think of is killing the messenger.  You weak-minded dipshit, you.

 

[miskie]

He's about as smart as my dick, Piggy. Sorry to crash your fantasy...

Perhaps - but the real question is, is he as smart as calPeg's di.... ahh, nevermind.