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tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« on: November 16, 2012, 09:10:22 PM »
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Insuring everyone in this country is going to be incredibly expensive until we start getting people healthier and skinnier. There are a lot of people who have obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, and diabetes through no fault of their own. But for many people, those conditions are their fault as a result of their diet. Unless you enjoy paying higher health care costs due to people's poor diet and habits, we need to start taxing unhealthy food/drink products. We can use the money to either help pay for universal healthcare, or use the money to subsidize healthy foods so they are cheaper. We should also figure out which vitamins/ supplements help people the most and encourage people to take them--by offering them at free or reduced costs.

And we need to ensure poor people have easy access to healthy products to they won't get hit extra hard by these regulations

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2. Yeah, bring on the fat police

UGH. 

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90. Yup.

Smokers pay, there's plenty of tax on liquor.

Time to pay for other unhealthy decisions. Sorry. It's past time.

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3. An idiot tax would work just as well.

I prefer to call it a DUmmy tax, but that is not a bad idea. The 0bamaphone people would get upset though for being taxed.

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4. Or

We could have a tax on dipshittery. In which case this idea of yours would cost you in April.

H-5 DUmmy.  :cheersmate:

The rest of the thread is an argument over whether obesity is unhealthy or not. I would think that since moochelle is against obesity that the DUmmies would have to follow suit, since you must agree with the democrats in order to post at DUmmyland.

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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2012, 04:36:19 AM »
Typical,they have never met a tax they didn`t love...to have someone else to pay.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2012, 04:55:11 AM »
Short answer and a solution: STOP all government freebies.....hard work is good for you.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2012, 05:27:16 AM »
The door  to the welfare office should be 18" wide.

If you can't get through the door you don't get welfare.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2012, 05:44:06 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 17, 2012, 04:55:11 AM
Short answer and a solution: STOP all government freebies.....hard work is good for you.

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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2012, 05:55:43 AM »
Quote from: Carl on November 17, 2012, 04:36:19 AM
Typical,they have never met a tax they didn`t love...to have someone else to pay.

Of course even the "plus-sized" primitives who chomp down fattening foods wouldn't care if it were taxed more; after all, they don't pay the taxes, the taxpayers do.

That is, I'm assuming in states where sales tax is collected on food, EBT cards pay the tax too.  (I don't know.)
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2012, 06:03:50 AM »
As "food insecurity " has replaced malnutrition for an excuse to provide welfare,  the obesity problem is probably more common in Dummies than any other group.  A simpler "fix" would be to turn food charity back to charities,  and hand out FOOD instead of money.

Though it's quite possible that Obama's energy policies will kill A/C for all but the truly rich, so "morbid" obesity would take its toll much, much faster.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2012, 06:36:27 AM »
DUmmies are pot smokers. Junk food is part of their habit. I can see why they would resist this tax.
In liberal logic taxes are for other people to pay, never liberals.

Junk food is cheap. This would hit the poor at a time when all food is rising in price.
But democrats don't care. They never do. They know the real money is with the middle class.

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2012, 07:01:39 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on November 17, 2012, 05:27:16 AM
The door  to the welfare office should be 18" wide.

If you can't get through the door you don't get welfare.

I like the way you think, Snugs!

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 09:25:34 AM »
Just more proof that leftism is a mental disease.

Taxing cigarettes and now unhealthy food/drinks/products decreases the use of those products but taxing investments will somehow make people invest more.  The holding of two counter points one accepts proves mental illness, the question is does one have to be mentally ill to be a leftist or does being a leftist make one mentally ill?
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2012, 10:25:43 AM »
There is some idiot professor in Australia that wants smoker to have to buy a license to be able to buy tobacco products. These DUmmies want to tax unhealthy food/drinks/products. Go ahead DUmmies tax away because when you finish taxing everything we like or do, they are coming after you next. I would suggest every one of you getting these freebees from the government has to pay a freebee tax of 50% of the value of every one of the freebees you get.
After all aren't you the guys always preaching about giving back? Time to back up what you preach.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 03:06:44 PM »
Cheetos and Mt Dew are unhealthy, jus sayin'
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 03:22:45 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on November 17, 2012, 06:03:50 AM
As "food insecurity " has replaced malnutrition for an excuse to provide welfare,  the obesity problem is probably more common in Dummies than any other group.  A simpler "fix" would be to turn food charity back to charities,  and hand out FOOD instead of money.

Though it's quite possible that Obama's energy policies will kill A/C for all but the truly rich, so "morbid" obesity would take its toll much, much faster.

That or a program more like WIC where the money can only be used for certain types of items would work well. Allow people to buy fruits, vegetables, and beans with their food stamps, but use cash for junk food.  Their food stamps would go a lot farther, and they would be healthier. 

Odds are, if the government is paying for your healthcare already, you are on some sort of food assistance program.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 03:27:10 PM »
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38. Maybe she never would have gotten diabetes in the 1st place, had she eaten better?

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Which is the point of the OP- if we are going to have national HC where we all have to share costs, then there is nothing wrong with exploring ways to reduce costs and risks.

You say she eats what she wants, but she is still very heavy, as opposed to fit and trim. In other words, she is still at risk of developing further health problems associated with obesity.

If she is still "very heavy", but never has to see the doctor and never has to take any prescription medicine (costing us all) , then maybe you have a point.

Yes, this is exactly WTF conservatives are talking about when we warn that turning health care over to the government would make us subject to their whims and decrees about our personal lives, and the DUmbasses denied it, and now they're sitting here condoning it. Yet if you say something critical about food stampers buying junk food or suggest drug testing for welfare recipients, they hit the ceiling and declare you a fascist.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 03:46:36 PM »
There is no such thing as "junk food".

It's a leftist invention, just like "gas guzzler", "Saturday night special", and "second hand smoke".

The huge 0bamaite parasites we see every day get that way because of their eating habits and laziness.

The existence of tasty processed food is not the reason we're supporting these parasites.

There's nothing wrong with "empty calories" as long as you enjoy them.

Just don't enjoy a thousand of them and then sit on your ass all day.

There's no "junk food", just junk people.

 
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2012, 05:40:09 PM »
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Insuring everyone in this country is going to be incredibly expensive until we start getting people healthier and skinnier. There are a lot of people who have obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, and diabetes through no fault of their own. But for many people, those conditions are their fault as a result of their diet. Unless you enjoy paying higher health care costs due to people's poor diet and habits, we need to start taxing unhealthy food/drink products. We can use the money to either help pay for universal healthcare, or use the money to subsidize healthy foods so they are cheaper. We should also figure out which vitamins/ supplements help people the most and encourage people to take them--by offering them at free or reduced costs.

I would rather not be expensive, but it's your challenged rant.  By the bye, when your revenue falls far short of your projections, what then?

It always does (D)Ullards.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 05:51:26 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on November 17, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
I would rather not be expensive, but it's your challenged rant.  By the bye, when your revenue falls far short of your projections, what then?

It always does (D)Ullards.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 07:02:19 PM »
Tax welfare. Unemployment gets taxed, cap gains gets taxed, interest gets taxed, SS gets taxed, et-freaking-cetra. Well dummies, it's time. You patriotic Americans, you oh-so-smart folks, it's time. It's time you start paying your fair share. I wouldn't mind the tax rates going up to the clinton era as long as you idiots start paying your fair share.
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Re: tax unhealthy food/drinks/products
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2012, 10:20:23 PM »
I think the little moochtards might be on to something, guys.  If we are all going to have to pay in, then maybe we should think about those risk factors that will increase cost.  I tell you what, Dumbasses, I'll be willing to talk about increasing the already staggering taxes on sugar, booze, tobacco, etc and in return, the biggest health risk factor of them all gets to go without - the queers.

That's right, you want to penalize all of us, we want the cootie-ridden queers gone.

So, DUmbasses, whaddya say?
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2012, 10:32:08 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on November 17, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
That or a program more like WIC where the money can only be used for certain types of items would work well. Allow people to buy fruits, vegetables, and beans with their food stamps, but use cash for junk food.  Their food stamps would go a lot farther, and they would be healthier. 

Odds are, if the government is paying for your healthcare already, you are on some sort of food assistance program.

Do you think any of these people can cook meals from scratch, or would that be considered discrimination for them being appliance challenged?   
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2012, 03:32:30 AM »
I often have the opportunity to see the EBT balance on a customer's receipt while at work.

I am no longer shocked at what they spend the money on or how much money some people have "banked."

About 10% of the purchase is healthy (I might be exaggerating in their favor) on top of some families getting several thousands of dollars in name brand prescriptions for behavior issues for their children every month. It's not uncommon for just one child to have Medicaid foot the bill for $1500 or more in medication. Why the **** do the DUmmies care about Obamacare? They already have the best insurance that tax payers can buy......MEDICARE.

**** off, DUmmies.

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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 09:26:49 PM »
Quote from: RobJohnson on November 18, 2012, 03:32:30 AM
I often have the opportunity to see the EBT balance on a customer's receipt while at work.

I am no longer shocked at what they spend the money on or how much money some people have "banked."

About 10% of the purchase is healthy (I might be exaggerating in their favor) on top of some families getting several thousands of dollars in name brand prescriptions for behavior issues for their children every month. It's not uncommon for just one child to have Medicaid foot the bill for $1500 or more in medication. Why the **** do the DUmmies care about Obamacare? They already have the best insurance that tax payers can buy......MEDICARE.

**** off, DUmmies.



I can always spot the welfare folks in line at the grocery store. They got steaks and kinds of shit in their buggies. Then when they put it up on the belt, they always have their cases of beer and cigs separate. I've got to where I can even spot them in the aisles of the store... they just toss what ever they want in the buggy. People watching their dollars always look at the price.

I can spot welfare folks at the pharmacy too. They are the ones that are wearing designer clothes, got bling, cell phones, the whole nine yards. Their meds are usually 2 or 4 bucks. Oh and they are rude. If the script ain't filled right then they complain loudly... and there is always something wrong that requires 20 minutes to resolve.

Pisses me off. I'm to the point I want the country to go broke. These leeches wouldn't last a winter.   :argh: :argh: :argh:
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2012, 08:22:25 AM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on November 18, 2012, 09:26:49 PM
I can always spot the welfare folks in line at the grocery store. They got steaks and kinds of shit in their buggies. Then when they put it up on the belt, they always have their cases of beer and cigs separate. I've got to where I can even spot them in the aisles of the store... they just toss what ever they want in the buggy. People watching their dollars always look at the price.

I can spot welfare folks at the pharmacy too. They are the ones that are wearing designer clothes, got bling, cell phones, the whole nine yards. Their meds are usually 2 or 4 bucks. Oh and they are rude. If the script ain't filled right then they complain loudly... and there is always something wrong that requires 20 minutes to resolve.

Pisses me off. I'm to the point I want the country to go broke. These leeches wouldn't last a winter.   :argh: :argh: :argh:

You pretty much summed it up.  They are too lazy to even contact their own doctor for refills. They call in expired prescriptions, then are mad when they can't pick them up.  :rotf:  They are also ALWAYS trying to pick up CII (controlled substance) drugs early this also includes CII & CIV, they will keep calling in the same Rx numbers to the automtated system after we have already told them it's too early....then we are told we are liars, etc.....
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2012, 10:55:54 AM »
Quote from: RobJohnson on November 19, 2012, 08:22:25 AM
You pretty much summed it up.  They are too lazy to even contact their own doctor for refills. They call in expired prescriptions, then are mad when they can't pick them up.  :rotf:  They are also ALWAYS trying to pick up CII (controlled substance) drugs early this also includes CII & CIV, they will keep calling in the same Rx numbers to the automtated system after we have already told them it's too early....then we are told we are liars, etc.....

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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2012, 12:18:34 AM »
They sit in the drive up lane, munching down on fast food and blowing second hand smoke into the pharmacy.

They hold up cars behind them and claim they don't have the gas to come back.

Of course this is while they are using their smart phone

If you can't tell, they ****ing piss me off.  :-)

I've seen everything from women only wearing bras for a top, to only wearing men's underwear for bottoms. Kids in the car, windows up, and the adults are puffing on smokes...I simply can't understand why the kids have asthma.   :censored: :censored: :censored:

Of course I may or may not be telling the truth, I could never legally bad mouth dirt bag DUmmies that won't work for a ****ing living. That is of course, if I really did know any thing about the retail pharmacy biz....this is all fake but accurate!
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